S&D : Female Fronted Goth Metal Bands

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Since Terrorizer, Metal Hammer and now even Kerrang are saying these bands are about to break the mainstream. I realised that i've never actually heard any of these bands apart from Nightwish. Who I thought were awful.

So who exactly are all these bands who are "the next big thing"?

Or is it just a case of more crap mainstream metal?

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Friday, 7 April 2006 10:50 (nineteen years ago)

Top 40 superstars Lacuna Coil!

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Friday, 7 April 2006 10:54 (nineteen years ago)

evanescence (RIP)

25 yr old slacker cokehead (Enrique), Friday, 7 April 2006 10:57 (nineteen years ago)

evanescence

They split up?

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Friday, 7 April 2006 10:59 (nineteen years ago)

Lacuna Coil! chick always wins most shaggable rock chick in metal mag polls

DJ Martian (djmartian), Friday, 7 April 2006 11:01 (nineteen years ago)

Evanescence: not R.I.P., mixing their new album, due in August.

StanM (StanM), Friday, 7 April 2006 11:04 (nineteen years ago)

i like madder mortem's deadlands album. but they're not really playing the same game as lacuna coil and evanescence.

baby, disco is fuck (yournullfame), Friday, 7 April 2006 11:19 (nineteen years ago)

did evenescence stay together or did they just give the name to a new band? I thought the label wanted to keep her but ditch them.

kyle (akmonday), Friday, 7 April 2006 12:34 (nineteen years ago)

Did Nightwish ever replace Tarja Turenen or whatever her name is after sacking her?

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Friday, 7 April 2006 12:34 (nineteen years ago)

the new album by Slovenian fiddle/goth metal band Naio Ssaion isn't horrible: http://www.naiossaion.com/

and the singer is a cutey with a nice voice. definitely inspired by lacuna coil.

nobody will ever match the gathering's majesty though.

scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 7 April 2006 12:38 (nineteen years ago)

what about Lullacry?

scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 7 April 2006 12:44 (nineteen years ago)

Are The Gathering that italian band?

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Friday, 7 April 2006 13:57 (nineteen years ago)

no, they are Dutch.

scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 7 April 2006 14:09 (nineteen years ago)

Lacuna Coil has been about to break the mainstream for a good long while. In terms of making records that draw you back after a single listen, they've been creeping steadily and doggedly downhill for a few years. Like many things were the female singer moans in the metal breezes from her bandmates, it's OK background music.

George 'the Animal' Steele, Friday, 7 April 2006 14:40 (nineteen years ago)

some relevant stuff from the rolling metal thread (also plenty on there about the new gathering and lacuna coil album, plus you might wanna search that one and the teen-pop one for stuff about flyleaf, reviewed by frank kogan in the voice week and now in billboard's top 100):

I'm experiencing a metal drought so far this year, I think. (I guess Lullacry's new Finnish goth-pop metal album is tolerable, though. Whether it has anything to do w/ metal is another question entirely.)
-- xhuck (xedd...), January 9th, 2006.
I'm really liking this album *Oppostition* I just got sent by a Pittsburgh band called Persephone's Dream - girl-singer atmospheric goth metal with actual riffs and hooks and tunes, which atmospheric goth metal almost never has (and sometimes I just accept that regardless). Only problem is, the album apparently came out in 2001. Got their other album *Moonspell* (named after the band?) too; that one seems less riffy and maybe more electronic and ethereal though (i.e., not as good, though still pretty), but it dates back to 1999.

-- xhuxk (xedd...), January 19th, 2006.
xp: Persephone's Dream (on even their debut) *sound* like old prog-metal guys, too, and their old prog-metal often tends to materializes even amid their Enigma-like material. Interesting that they got more, not less, metal later. I do wish they didn't stick a 12 minute world music lesson (including aforementioned dorky drum solo) called "Earth Dreams" in the middle of their first album, though. Basically, I guess, their imitations of the first Enigma album are fine, but their imitations of the second Enigma album leave me feeling kinda queasy.
-- xhuxk (xedd...), January 23rd, 2006.


Now playing the *Sonic Cathedral - Sirens* compilation ("an exclusive sampler celebrating the female voice in metal", by which they mean "dark gothic metal that often has no metal in it", which is fine with me), and I like a lot of it, especially the GREAT GREAT GREAT I FUCKING SWEAR HOW COME NOBODY LISTENS TO ANYTHING I SAY ABOUT THIS BAND Subterranean Masquerade, whose last CD had beautiful smooth jazz guitar parts and whose song "Suspended Animation Dreams" here is more blues psychedelia than goth metal. Other highlights include tracks by Peccatum, the Gathering, Star of Ash, Madder Mortem, and Lilitu. Also I just noticed that the song by Cirrah Nava, "Le Parade," starts with a weird Balkan organ-grider rhythm. Cool! So who the hell are they?
-- xhuxk (xedd...), January 27th, 2006.

Twelfth of Never, *Things That Were* -- good cdbaby.com Gathering-style dark goth new age metal/non-metal, if you like that kinda thing (some do, some don't) from Massachusetts. Best tracks: "Bratty Girl" (the least bratty sounding song with "bratty" in the title I've ever heard), "Recognition", "The Tiny Drawer", "Such are Mirrors" (eerie spoken word opening), "Left Unsaid" (which reminds me more of Opeth than the Gathering.) Beautifully crocheted guitar climaxes in a few tracks. 11th track is followed by a hidden 12th track of horror movie noises. Dedicated to a girlfriend of the keyboardist who died; her name was Tara Harding Lee, and she looks very pale like a vampire.

-- xhuxk (xedd...), January 31st, 2006.
these Pennsylvanians ("crosses No Doubt with Evanescence and little Disturbed...sometimes referred to as Dance Rock") sound promising to me, though the girl singing has a pretty rough voice (which could wind up waking in their favor more than against them):

http://cdbaby.com/cd/hollistunes

(Anyway, I'm still undecided about how much I like them. Their lyrics quote "Shake Your Booty" and "Into the Groove," I'm just not sure yet how clumsily. So far I prefer the synth parts to the funk basslines. And so far my favorite tracks are probably "Waiting" and "Better Day," two of their poppiest and least disco-metal and least rough-voiced.)

-- xhuxk (xedd...), March 30th, 2006.


Liking those Pennsy cdbaby new wave-synthed teen-rock disco-metallers Hollis more than I expected, especially ("Chemical," "Waiting," "Better Day," "Fade," "Automatic") when they can the gnu-metal shtick and let their girl Holly get her Patty Smythe and maybe Benatar on. "Fade" has '80s Bryan Adams riffs, and I can actually imagine people moving their thing to "Move That Thing," the song that quotes "Into the Groove". "Torn & Broken" and "Keep Me Down", where they try to act tougher, aren't quite so fun. But thumbs up regardless.

-- xhuxk (xedd...), April 1st, 2006.

xhuxk, Friday, 7 April 2006 16:30 (nineteen years ago)

Nightwish are looking for a new vocalist.

StanM (StanM), Friday, 7 April 2006 16:39 (nineteen years ago)

Well theres all the dutch and scandinavian bands from the mid 90s...The Third & the Mortal, Within Temptation, Epica, Orphanage, Lacuna Coil, Theater of Tragedy, The Gathering, Tristiania. That whole scene has lost my interest tobe honest, as the sound hasnt progressed an inch over the last 10 years

Siegbran (eofor), Friday, 7 April 2006 17:24 (nineteen years ago)

well, the gathering have progressed at least. maybe not in a way that you like though.

scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 7 April 2006 17:31 (nineteen years ago)

Oh yeah, saying it hasn't progressed is kind of silly. It's definitely gotten more pop and more atmospheric and less metal, for one thing, I mean three things. (Whether those changes are good or bad is up for debate.) On the other hand I haven't listened to Drain STH in a while...

xhuxk, Friday, 7 April 2006 17:53 (nineteen years ago)

(Personally, though, believe it or not, I think the sound WAS probably more interesting five or ten years ago than it is now. I actually think the Gathering peaked a few albums ago. So in a way, I totally agree with Siegbran.) (On the other hand, Theatre of Tragedy got BETTER when they started sounding more like Ace of Base, so in a way I don't agree, too.)

xhuxk, Friday, 7 April 2006 17:56 (nineteen years ago)

i agree about the gathering. even though i still dig them. how to measure a planet, and heck, even nighttime birds, are once in a lifetime albums. i was never a big lacuna coil fan.

scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 7 April 2006 18:16 (nineteen years ago)

This months Terrorizer has Lacuna Coil on the cover btw. And that band mentioned above Epica are in it too.

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Friday, 7 April 2006 23:11 (nineteen years ago)

This months Decibel has Lacuna Coil on the cover btw.

scott seward (scott seward), Saturday, 8 April 2006 00:10 (nineteen years ago)

actually just cristina. why bother with the whole band.

scott seward (scott seward), Saturday, 8 April 2006 00:12 (nineteen years ago)

And people wonder why girls don't wanna be in rock bands..

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Saturday, 8 April 2006 01:20 (nineteen years ago)

The metal mags are the ones who complain most about "manufactured pop bands" using sex to sell to kids but then do the exact same thing when a rock band with a girl in it comes along.

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Saturday, 8 April 2006 01:24 (nineteen years ago)

Indeed, Revolver had a cover-feature combo a month ago for miscellaneous douchebags to have a bit of a soft-porn mostly clothed polish to. "Girl on Girl action" promised the cover.

George 'the Animal' Steele, Saturday, 8 April 2006 01:46 (nineteen years ago)

Decibel had a sexy spread a couple months back, but it was all hilarious half-naked shots of pasty dudes from death metal bands.

scott seward (scott seward), Saturday, 8 April 2006 02:11 (nineteen years ago)

this is the part where someone posts a sexxi pict of melisssa auf der maur and her band

Jimmy Mod: My theme is DEATH (The Famous Jimmy Mod), Saturday, 8 April 2006 03:11 (nineteen years ago)

We don't get Revolver or Decibel over here. But Hit Parader seems to hit every Wh Smiths for some reason and I expect thats every bit as bad. I wonder if it's still stuck in the 1980s?

Kerrang was really sexist supposedly in the 80s. Anyone have any memories?

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Saturday, 8 April 2006 07:37 (nineteen years ago)

Faith and the Muse have a fantastic, single goth-metal track on their last CD. If everything theye did sounded like that, they'd be the king/queenpins of the genre-ette.

Grey, Ian (IanBrooklyn), Saturday, 8 April 2006 20:51 (nineteen years ago)

Just today heard Fefe Dobson's "Unforgiven" for the first time, though it's a couple of years old; obv. she's not a band, and the other two cuts I've heard of hers don't sound gothly or metally. This does very much, crunch and gloom but w/ Avril live-wire vocals and w/ harmonies layered on, just as live-wire or even more than Lacey Mosley's on the Flyleaf album. Teengothpop. How long has this been going on without my having known about it? (Avril's "Unwanted" is back in 2002, but scores may have preceded it, for all I'd know.)

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Sunday, 9 April 2006 05:23 (nineteen years ago)

LA Times squib on Saturday stated Lacuna Coil's new album is expected to debut in the Top 20 or so due to relentless touring with various big names. Hmmm, will it, and if so, how long? Highest seller was 220,000 or so.

George 'the Animal' Steele, Sunday, 9 April 2006 16:30 (nineteen years ago)

They played Ozzfest last year I think so no doubt that has helped them get exposure.

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Sunday, 9 April 2006 16:57 (nineteen years ago)

Flyleaf is semi-local, so I've been hearing them on the radio for a while, nothing I could ever buy or really get into, but way more enjoyable than your average alt-rock radio fare. It sounded like Avril to me.

Big Willy and the Twins (miloaukerman), Sunday, 9 April 2006 18:16 (nineteen years ago)

Perfect for ILM then!

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Sunday, 9 April 2006 19:08 (nineteen years ago)

dude your about 5 years too late with this posting. Goth bands with girly singers are no longer the "in" thing

A Fire Inside, Sunday, 9 April 2006 19:30 (nineteen years ago)

Well I thought the same about the Swedish/melodic/black/death stuff (it's been well 10+ years since the heydays of Dissection, In Flames, Eucharist, At The Gates and Dark Tranquillity), and still it broke "mainstream" metal only a few years ago.

Siegbran (eofor), Sunday, 9 April 2006 20:56 (nineteen years ago)

The mainstream always takes ages to catch up though.
Nu-metal took a while after the 1st Korn album to go mainstream with Limp Bizkit and Linkin Park.

haha "punk" took 20 years to catch up on mainstream america.

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Sunday, 9 April 2006 23:07 (nineteen years ago)

ha ha "punk" was mainstream in 1965.

and goth-metal is still catching up with what disco was doing 30 years ago.

xhuxk, Sunday, 9 April 2006 23:15 (nineteen years ago)

(or ABBA, for that matter.)

xhuxk, Sunday, 9 April 2006 23:18 (nineteen years ago)

does flyleaf count?

Stephen C (ihope), Monday, 10 April 2006 05:12 (nineteen years ago)

Never heard of them.

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Monday, 10 April 2006 09:18 (nineteen years ago)

Yes, Steven, Flyleaf count. (See above, see rolling teenpop and metal threads, and see Frank Kogan's review in this week's Village Voice.)

xhuxk, Monday, 10 April 2006 11:22 (nineteen years ago)

uhhh....arch enemy anyone?

person, Saturday, 15 April 2006 23:44 (nineteen years ago)

five months pass...
I still dig that To-Mera album. I play it a lot.

scott seward (scott seward), Sunday, 8 October 2006 10:19 (nineteen years ago)

Did any of these bands break the mainstream then?

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Sunday, 8 October 2006 12:53 (nineteen years ago)

i haven't read much about karmacode being a huge seller

Charlie Howard (the sphinx), Sunday, 8 October 2006 13:31 (nineteen years ago)


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