-the hated David Bowie reissues on Virgin that orphaned the wonderful Ryko bonus tracks (and the 2-disc special editions of the glam-era albums, with flimsy "book" packaging that falls apart if you so much as look in its direction, mostly useless bonus tracks, and on Ziggy, the left and right audio channels switched)
-(my personal grudge) the rerelease of I Monster's Neveroddoreven that featured two of the album's best tracks ("Hey Mrs" and "The Back Seat of My Car") in terrible, nearly unrecognizable new versions, possibly because of sample clearance issues.
What other reissues have really fucked things up, in terms of audio quality, extras or lack thereof, etc? Or, alternately, which have been the most transparent examples of pointless price-gouging on the part of the label?
― Telephonething (Telephonething), Saturday, 8 April 2006 07:38 (twenty years ago)
― Captain Smash (Captain Smash), Saturday, 8 April 2006 07:46 (twenty years ago)
Don't get me started on any gospel CD that doesn't have liner notes by Opal Nations -- it's a TRAVESTY, I tell you, especially when you get lured into thinking something's from the '40s and it's really much more recent and sucks (like a Troggs reunion album masquerading as an old one, grrrrrrr).
― Mike McG, Saturday, 8 April 2006 08:11 (twenty years ago)
I'm skeptical of all these dual-disc reissues. I don't own any yet and don't relish the idea of bringing one home and finding it incompatible with my equipment.
The recent trend of the just-months-after-the-original-release-reissue thing is silly - The Massacre etc.
― AaronHz (AaronHz), Saturday, 8 April 2006 08:18 (twenty years ago)
― AaronHz (AaronHz), Saturday, 8 April 2006 08:35 (twenty years ago)
― Colonel Poo (Colonel Poo), Saturday, 8 April 2006 10:32 (twenty years ago)
Roadrunner Records have been doing this for the best part of a decade now.
― Lotta Continua (Damian), Saturday, 8 April 2006 11:28 (twenty years ago)
― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Saturday, 8 April 2006 12:53 (twenty years ago)
― vartman (novaheat), Saturday, 8 April 2006 12:58 (twenty years ago)
― Tim (Tim), Saturday, 8 April 2006 13:19 (twenty years ago)
― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Saturday, 8 April 2006 13:56 (twenty years ago)
I had a copy of "Therapy" years ago and sold it on a while later, having failed to locate its joys. I look forward to hearing it again.
I always knew there was other, pre-"Cool Snap" gubbins, because it's mentioned on the wee bit of paper inside "Cool Snap" but only ever managed to find "Nerve Pylon". And then gave that away. "CS" remains one of my favourite records from that time, it's a record which anticipates some of the spikier end of indie which came a few years later (and I know Phil Wilson was a big Lines fan).
― Tim (Tim), Saturday, 8 April 2006 14:17 (twenty years ago)
if you like Cool Snap, you'll love the single that came just before, On the Air. It's similar but a bit more raw. There's a discography here:
http://www.torchsongonline.com/thelinesdiscography.html
as Rico Conning of the Lines has worked with William Orbit through the years...even on the Madonna stuff! Same Rico who worked with Depeche Mode, Front 242, Renegade Soundwave etc.
― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Saturday, 8 April 2006 14:37 (twenty years ago)
― Raw Patrick (Raw Patrick), Saturday, 8 April 2006 17:52 (twenty years ago)
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 8 April 2006 18:02 (twenty years ago)
― dlp9001, Saturday, 8 April 2006 18:34 (twenty years ago)
....why?
― Christopher Costello (CGC), Saturday, 8 April 2006 19:39 (twenty years ago)
>>
That track is on Killed By Death #2 - if you want a version without the glitch. I hadn't noticed it on my copy of Expelled but my CD player is getting old and cranky so it's possible it is on there and I assumed it was the CD player.
― Colonel Poo (Colonel Poo), Saturday, 8 April 2006 23:15 (twenty years ago)
Similar treatment has recently hit Maximum Joy (whose entire oeuvre could've fit a single disc).
― IM, Saturday, 8 April 2006 23:28 (twenty years ago)
― Pangolino 2, Saturday, 8 April 2006 23:43 (twenty years ago)
― DOQQUN (donut), Sunday, 9 April 2006 00:33 (twenty years ago)
― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Sunday, 9 April 2006 00:42 (twenty years ago)
― van igloo (van smack), Sunday, 9 April 2006 00:45 (twenty years ago)
― earinfections (Nick Twisp), Sunday, 9 April 2006 02:53 (twenty years ago)
I wanted to be excited about the Essential Logic reissue, but unfortunately it was about five years too late to capture my interest. I'd already spent a fair amount of bucks in the '90s to hoover up all that stuff off of eBay.
― Myke. (Myke Weiskopf), Sunday, 9 April 2006 02:57 (twenty years ago)
http://www.cherryred.co.uk/lemon/artists/index.htm
I guess there has to be a market for Faster Pussycat remix albums!
― Brian Turner (btwfmu), Sunday, 9 April 2006 03:55 (twenty years ago)
(Seriosly, though. The Kershenbaum remixes are FAR better than the original versions of songs 1 - 5 on the album, from the title track to "Hold Back The Rain". Everything else is the same on all versions of the album.)
― See Me, Repeat Me (Dee the Lurker), Sunday, 9 April 2006 04:23 (twenty years ago)
― See Me, Repeat Me (Dee the Lurker), Sunday, 9 April 2006 04:25 (twenty years ago)
― Dorian Lynskey, Sunday, 9 April 2006 16:38 (twenty years ago)
― Mr. Snrub (Mr. Snrub), Sunday, 9 April 2006 16:54 (twenty years ago)
Everyone ripped me for likeing Ben Folds Five "Whatever and Ever Bibbity Blah..." re-release (as seen here iBen Folds Five - Whatever and Ever Amen Reissue). But I will stand by it.
― earinfections (Nick Twisp), Sunday, 9 April 2006 17:54 (twenty years ago)
5. shouldn't there be like a 10 year minimum for this shit?
-- miccio (anthonyisrigh...), April 24th, 2005.
4. this record is only EIGHT fucking years old! it isn't as if this is the white album.
wtf is WRONG w/ the rekkid companies?!?
-- Eisbär (llamasfu...), April 24th, 2005.
3. Also. The re-release of this record ISN'T the cause of YOUR favourite record not being re-released. Get the fuck over it.
-- edward o (edwardo...), April 24th, 2005.
2. Ben Folds apologists make me embarrassed for them.
-- Sarah S. (ssmyth...), January 2nd, 2006.
1. oh great - please let them reissue this so i can step over the bodies of those men wallowing in self-pity over their inability to interact with love interests.
-- blackmail.is.my.life (blackmail.is.my.lif...), April 24th, 2005.
― earinfections (Nick Twisp), Sunday, 9 April 2006 18:01 (twenty years ago)
― A|ex P@reene (Pareene), Sunday, 9 April 2006 19:14 (twenty years ago)
― Emily B (Emily B), Sunday, 9 April 2006 22:25 (twenty years ago)
― earinfections (Nick Twisp), Sunday, 9 April 2006 23:17 (twenty years ago)
-- Alex in NYC (vassife...), April 8th, 2006.
otm!
― latebloomer: someone's been drinking my youth! (latebloomer), Sunday, 9 April 2006 23:19 (twenty years ago)
-- vartman (bl...), April 8th, 2006.
that was more because TVT were in the hole and had to auction off the rights to release it
― latebloomer: someone's been drinking my youth! (latebloomer), Sunday, 9 April 2006 23:20 (twenty years ago)
― keyth (keyth), Sunday, 9 April 2006 23:21 (twenty years ago)
― nerve pylon (flat_of_angles), Monday, 10 April 2006 00:32 (twenty years ago)
MIKE JOYCE duh
― kit brash (kit brash), Monday, 10 April 2006 01:07 (twenty years ago)
Vote #2
meanwhile, the IRS years languish in low fidelity.
― PeopleFunnyBoy (PeopleFunnyBoy), Monday, 10 April 2006 01:35 (twenty years ago)
― Carlos Keith (Buck_Wilde), Sunday, 23 April 2006 09:58 (twenty years ago)
― Sparkle Motion's Rising Force, Sunday, 23 April 2006 15:28 (twenty years ago)
I don't know if this counts as a reissue, but in terms of repackaging a record in a bizarre and virtually useless fashion, this takes the cake:
http://eil.com/newgallery/The-Killers-7-Inch-Box-Set-344717.jpg
― M. Biondi (M. Biondi), Sunday, 23 April 2006 15:46 (twenty years ago)
― Telephonething (Telephonething), Sunday, 23 April 2006 17:26 (twenty years ago)
elvis costello can go fuck himself
― m coleman (lovebug starski), Sunday, 23 April 2006 17:30 (twenty years ago)
I might be wrong, but wasn't this more a case of "weirdly, this album has actually been out of print for a short time!" The sort of thing where it made perfect sense to "re-issue" it in the sense of getting it back into stores...but for purposes of hyping it, getting it reviewed, etc, it was a lot more pointless.
― Doctor Casino (Doctor Casino), Sunday, 23 April 2006 20:06 (twenty years ago)
The Dinosaur Jr. reissues on Merge are lame, too. Extra tracks/demos just have to be floating around. Instead we get lame fucking videos that you can watch on VH1's The Alternative.
While rubbish like Fleetwood Mac and Yes get the grand reissue treatment, classics are left w/ poor audio fidelity:
The Pretenders - The Pretenders New Order - all back catalogue Gang Of Four - Songs Of The Free (deleted in UK as well I believe)
These are all WEA-related albums (GOF was WEA in US), so why can't Rhino reissue these instead of the hated Mac and Yes?
― Johnny Strangler, Wednesday, 31 May 2006 18:51 (nineteen years ago)
― Eppy (Eppy), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 18:54 (nineteen years ago)
― Johnny Strangler, Wednesday, 31 May 2006 18:59 (nineteen years ago)
― Lee is Free (Lee is Free), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 19:02 (nineteen years ago)
― Johnny Strangler, Wednesday, 31 May 2006 19:07 (nineteen years ago)
― I am ready to kill myself and eat my dog (teenagequiet), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 19:13 (nineteen years ago)
― Johnny Strangler, Wednesday, 31 May 2006 19:15 (nineteen years ago)
xxp - yeah, the merge dino reissues have inexplicable/dumb add-ons, but at least the remasters of the actual albums sound good
― I am ready to kill myself and eat my dog (teenagequiet), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 19:18 (nineteen years ago)
― Johnny Strangler, Wednesday, 31 May 2006 19:23 (nineteen years ago)
― Eppy (Eppy), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 19:26 (nineteen years ago)
― dlp9001 (dlp9001), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 19:27 (nineteen years ago)
dlp9001...Agreed. Kiln House was great, atmospheric stuff too. Seriously...it's the two Americans in the band that ruined them. I'm American, too, so that wasn't a jab or anything. Just fact.
― Johnny Strangler, Wednesday, 31 May 2006 19:33 (nineteen years ago)
― I am ready to kill myself and eat my dog (teenagequiet), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 19:37 (nineteen years ago)
― kyle (akmonday), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 19:39 (nineteen years ago)
Speaking of Tusk, the Camper Van Beethoven covers of that album are pretty interesting, if you haven't heard them yet.
― Johnny Strangler, Wednesday, 31 May 2006 19:40 (nineteen years ago)
I don't neccessarily like the orphaning, but they sound a lot better than the Rykodisc ones. (I own the Ryko of "Ziggy Stardust" and if the audio channels are switched I will not buy the remaster)
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 20:37 (nineteen years ago)
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 20:38 (nineteen years ago)
― gear (gear), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 20:40 (nineteen years ago)
― Telephonething (Telephonething), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 20:56 (nineteen years ago)
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 21:07 (nineteen years ago)
The 1993 MCA version not only replaces the cover art with some truly awful artwork, but combines the US and UK releases, adhering to neither original running order. Bad move.
― gear (gear), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 21:10 (nineteen years ago)
― Fastnbulbous (Fastnbulbous), Saturday, 10 June 2006 15:46 (nineteen years ago)
Even worse, the entire Bjork collection is being remastered/reissued on the dreaded DualDiscs. No album released after 1994 should be in need of a remaster, unless there's some really obvious fuckup.
I never liked Depeche Mode enough to own their albums. But the deluxe reissues are triggering a Pavlovian response, combined with Simon Reynolds mentioning he was surprised at how he likes them better than he remembered.
― Fastnbulbous (Fastnbulbous), Saturday, 10 June 2006 16:02 (nineteen years ago)
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Saturday, 10 June 2006 17:40 (nineteen years ago)
― Marmot 4-Tay (marmotwolof), Sunday, 11 June 2006 00:25 (nineteen years ago)
― keyth (keyth), Sunday, 11 June 2006 01:27 (nineteen years ago)
Universal has a lot of weird Deluxe Editions -- Gin Blossoms, Elton John, Melissa Etheridge, Grease. What's next, Xanadu?
― Fastnbulbous (Fastnbulbous), Thursday, 15 June 2006 13:45 (nineteen years ago)
― Fastnbulbous (Fastnbulbous), Thursday, 15 June 2006 13:49 (nineteen years ago)
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Thursday, 15 June 2006 20:43 (nineteen years ago)
― svend (svend), Friday, 16 June 2006 00:46 (nineteen years ago)
Via Pfork:
Less than a year after the release of their debut album Manners, Passion Pit are giving it the deluxe reissue treatment. Out April 13 on Frenchkiss/Columbia, the new Manners will feature three bonus tracks and new artwork. The bonus tracks: "stripped down" takes on "Moth's Wings" and "Sleepyhead" and a cover of the Cranberries' "Dreams", which the band has been playing live.
http://pitchfork.com/news/38203-passion-pit-reissue-debut-album
― I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Tuesday, 16 March 2010 17:12 (sixteen years ago)
The recent single CD issue of Big Star's 'Radio City' has the first second of 'September Gurls' indexed as part of the previous track. Fuck.
― PaulTMA, Tuesday, 16 March 2010 18:31 (sixteen years ago)
And Julian Cope's 'Jehovahkill' has the worst remastering of all time. Never mind compression, it's been amplified to the point where it's distorted throughout. Utterly terrible.
― PaulTMA, Tuesday, 16 March 2010 18:32 (sixteen years ago)
Do they still make Dual Discs? I hope not. I could never figure out a way to burn them to my computer.
― musicfanatic, Tuesday, 16 March 2010 18:38 (sixteen years ago)
Dual Discs seem to be universally loathed, so I doubt they make them anymore. The only ones I have are the Talking Heads reissues and I could always get the CD side to work in both of the Macs in my house (though not in my car). I can sympathize though, I was nervous the first time I shoved those thick discs into the drive...
― elephant rob, Tuesday, 16 March 2010 20:28 (sixteen years ago)
I was browsing and came across the Deluxe Edition of Joe Jackson's Night And Day. I like the slick Nu-Yorican vibe to it, but only really like about three songs.
I was coming here to post about this Deluxe Edition--they included the 5 songs from the contemporaneous, never-on-CD Mike's Murder soundtrack (yay!) but left out all the instrumental tracks so they could slap on 5 cuts from the easy-to-find-on-CD Live 1980-1986 album.
― Hideous Lump, Tuesday, 16 March 2010 20:40 (sixteen years ago)
xxxxpost - And that's gotta be at least the THIRD Big Star CD reissue! Too bad you didn't get one of the two-fers instead... :(
― Half lies and gorilla dust (Myonga Vön Bontee), Tuesday, 16 March 2010 21:47 (sixteen years ago)
And because I have to complain about this somewhere, some whining about the otherwise exemplary Who reissues of the '90s:
- Too much double dipping - Following up the fab single-disc reissues of The Who Sell Out, Tommy, Live at Leeds and Who's Next with 2-disc Deluxe Editions that aren't extra-fab enough for me to want to spend another $25 or $30 on each.
- As thorough as they were in filling these things up with rarities, there are still 13 previously released tracks (mostly b-sides) that didn't show up on any of the reissues or the 30 Years of Maximum R&B box set:
Baby Don't You Do It (Live)Bargain (Live) [from the "Who's Missing" comp]Circles (Instant Party) [Rerecorded version]Dogs, Part 2Dr. Jekyll and Mr. HydeGoin' Down (Live) [from the "Two's Missing" comp]Here for MoreI'm a Boy (Early Version)My Wife (Live) [from the "Two's Missing" comp]Someone's ComingSubstitute [the original single is only available on any of a million redundant Greatest Hits comps)WaspmanWhen I Was a Boy
And if you don't have the box set, you're missing out on these, too. Even the better Greatest Hits comps won't get you all of these:
Anyway Anyhow AnywhereCall Me LightningDogsHappy JackHeaven and HellI'm a BoyJoin TogetherThe Last TimeLet's See ActionMagic BusPictures of LilyRelayThe Seeker
What they should have done was release a remastered Meaty Beaty Big and Bouncy collection and added the rest of the missing tracks. But they didn't. Bastards.
― Hideous Lump, Tuesday, 16 March 2010 22:08 (sixteen years ago)
the who catalogue is kind of a mess. as far as I can tell some of the best editions of things were released on cd in Japan only. the live at leeds deluxe edition sounds awful too. although, I think the new Sell Out deluxe is supposed to be good?
as annoying as it is that elvis costello reissues his catalogue every year, it did seem like he kept going a better and better job of it (until the Hip-O versions anyway). The Rykos were great and then the Rhinos came out and retained almost all of the Ryko bonus tracks PLUS more. The new deluxe editions aren't necessary to me since the bonus discs are live only (don't care) but I can see people wanting them, I guess.
Bowie's catalogue also a mess. I have a feeling Bowie might kick the bucket soon so maybe something good will come out after he dies (not to be morbid).
― akm, Tuesday, 16 March 2010 22:15 (sixteen years ago)
waht
― I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Tuesday, 16 March 2010 22:16 (sixteen years ago)
Baby Don't You Do It (Live)Bargain (Live) [from the "Who's Missing" comp]
These are on the fan-club-only 2CD View From A Backstage Pass live compilation (at thewho.com...for fifty goddamn dollars)
Dogs, Part 2
This is on the 2CD Tommy Deluxe Edition.
My Wife (Live) [from the "Two's Missing" comp]
Also on View From A Backstage Pass.
Someone's Coming
This was on the 1995 reissue of The Who Sell Out (can't remember if it's on the 2009 2CD reissue)
― Tarfumes The Escape Goat, Tuesday, 16 March 2010 22:24 (sixteen years ago)
^ "Someone's Coming" - Whoops, you're right.
― Hideous Lump, Tuesday, 16 March 2010 23:26 (sixteen years ago)
Did the recent reissues of RIO include those aforementioned Kershenbaum remixes? I don't think i've ever heard of those.
― piscesx, Wednesday, 17 March 2010 00:56 (sixteen years ago)
A tad spurious seeing as it's not a reissue as such just a dvd of an old Vhs, but i'll just moan a little more about it anyway; the DVD of blur StarShaped which as has been documented elsewhere many times is *literally* unlistenable. I mean with all the renwed interest around them and the new documentary movie you'd think it could have been issued again with decent sound.
― piscesx, Wednesday, 17 March 2010 01:02 (sixteen years ago)
is the sound worse than the VHS, or is just that the source sound (crappy handheld cameras) was rubbish to begin with?
― parm goin' ham (sic), Wednesday, 17 March 2010 01:09 (sixteen years ago)
"xxxxpost - And that's gotta be at least the THIRD Big Star CD reissue! Too bad you didn't get one of the two-fers instead... :("
Or did a decade ago and wondered why the latest one was so pish?
― PaulTMA, Wednesday, 17 March 2010 01:21 (sixteen years ago)
The 25th anniversary edition of "Thriller" was pretty much pointless. The version with the Quincy Jones interview and E.T. album track on it was a lot more interesting for those of us who reckon that music from 1982 should also sound like music from 1982.
― Tied Up In Geir (Geir Hongro), Wednesday, 17 March 2010 01:22 (sixteen years ago)
just absolutely no shame in the jazz reissue biz, so dumb, I thought Verve was remotely serious
https://i.imgur.com/CWvdfIa.png
― corrs unplugged, Thursday, 21 April 2022 06:59 (four years ago)
this is tangential to the subject of the thread, but can anyone recommend a good article about the rise of functional 'music to exercise/study/sleep/whatever to' playlists becoming a major way that people consume music, and the effects on the industry? (maybe tying it in to the longer history of 'functional' music, muzak etc?)
― soref, Thursday, 21 April 2022 07:49 (four years ago)
Those WFH albums seem to be digital only at least, was loling thinking of someone proudly buying a vinyl record of that.
― Daniel_Rf, Thursday, 21 April 2022 08:43 (four years ago)
Workin' (From Home) With The Miles Davis Quintet
― but also fuck you (unperson), Thursday, 21 April 2022 11:56 (four years ago)
Verve's jazz reissues even on CD were often pretty wack. They did do some back in the late 90s like this one.
https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/41RVDG70VGL.jpg
Now on some of these releases where they got all hipster Photoshop/Illustrator 1998, they would bend fonts and put them on backgrounds where often trying to read the liner notes was a near impossibility.
They would also often times use weird die cut cases that pretty much guaranteed that the record would fall out of print.
― earlnash, Thursday, 21 April 2022 12:03 (four years ago)
The music is not wack, that should be said. I own this one. At the time most of RRK's records of that era had not yet come out on CD.
― earlnash, Thursday, 21 April 2022 12:04 (four years ago)
I revisit that second Blackbeard record frequently, so weird/great.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ztVpsVEzo6U
― Maresn3st, Thursday, 21 April 2022 12:24 (four years ago)
Oh bum, wrong thread :(
― Maresn3st, Thursday, 21 April 2022 12:26 (four years ago)