Worst/most unnecessary reissues

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So for some reason I got to thinking about this, and I know there have got to be more than the few examples I can think of immediately:

-the hated David Bowie reissues on Virgin that orphaned the wonderful Ryko bonus tracks (and the 2-disc special editions of the glam-era albums, with flimsy "book" packaging that falls apart if you so much as look in its direction, mostly useless bonus tracks, and on Ziggy, the left and right audio channels switched)

-(my personal grudge) the rerelease of I Monster's Neveroddoreven that featured two of the album's best tracks ("Hey Mrs" and "The Back Seat of My Car") in terrible, nearly unrecognizable new versions, possibly because of sample clearance issues.

What other reissues have really fucked things up, in terms of audio quality, extras or lack thereof, etc? Or, alternately, which have been the most transparent examples of pointless price-gouging on the part of the label?

Telephonething (Telephonething), Saturday, 8 April 2006 07:38 (twenty years ago)

NOTHING!

Captain Smash (Captain Smash), Saturday, 8 April 2006 07:46 (twenty years ago)

Anything by MCA, in their first 18 or so years of releasing CDs -- no liner notes, no information, horrible packaging, no extra tracks. They finally got around to doing justice to the Who's catalogue, but by then most folks had to re-buy those records...

Don't get me started on any gospel CD that doesn't have liner notes by Opal Nations -- it's a TRAVESTY, I tell you, especially when you get lured into thinking something's from the '40s and it's really much more recent and sucks (like a Troggs reunion album masquerading as an old one, grrrrrrr).

Mike McG, Saturday, 8 April 2006 08:11 (twenty years ago)

I never knew that about the Ziggy audio channel switching thing, and that's the edition I own, hmph.

I'm skeptical of all these dual-disc reissues. I don't own any yet and don't relish the idea of bringing one home and finding it incompatible with my equipment.

The recent trend of the just-months-after-the-original-release-reissue thing is silly - The Massacre etc.

AaronHz (AaronHz), Saturday, 8 April 2006 08:18 (twenty years ago)

otm about the "book" packaging, too. mine was already torn when I bought it new and is currently held together with scotch tape.

AaronHz (AaronHz), Saturday, 8 April 2006 08:35 (twenty years ago)

There are several million low-budget Buzzcocks best ofs, while A Different Kind Of Tension has been OOP in the UK for years. The only way you can get it is as part of the Product box set.

Colonel Poo (Colonel Poo), Saturday, 8 April 2006 10:32 (twenty years ago)

The recent trend of the just-months-after-the-original-release-reissue thing is silly - The Massacre etc.

Roadrunner Records have been doing this for the best part of a decade now.

Lotta Continua (Damian), Saturday, 8 April 2006 11:28 (twenty years ago)

http://www.acuterecords.com

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Saturday, 8 April 2006 12:53 (twenty years ago)

Reissuing "Pretty Hate Machine" with no extra tracks, liner notes, whatever seemed pretty unnecessary.

vartman (novaheat), Saturday, 8 April 2006 12:58 (twenty years ago)

[Dan, I'm very excited about the reissue of that Lines material, even if no-one else is. I'm most excited about the "Cool Snap" era material, I'm less keen on the later stuff. This activity counts as completely necessary, given the apparent impossiblity of me placing my hands on a decent copy of "Nerve Pylon" at a sensible price having foolishly given my copy to a friend of mine as a wedding present.]

Tim (Tim), Saturday, 8 April 2006 13:19 (twenty years ago)

though this is the last thread where this should be discussed...I didn't like the late material at all at first. It just grew on me. I think Ultramarine's joys are more apparent then Therapy, of the two LPs...one song on Ultramarine recycles a melody from the Cool Snap ep in a really cool way. The plan so far is to release a CD that compiles all the singles PLUS 3 unreleased tracks which were probably recorded just before Cool Snap but they felt they had moved on since then, they're more raw and punky then the stuff on Cool Snap. Then a CD of both LPs, which fits so long as we don't include the last song on Ultramarine, which is just another song played backwords! Finally, a 3rd CD of material that was unreleased, worked on for a third album. They had discovered electronics in a major way, drum machines, vocoders etc, and have a sense of mixing post-punk/new-waveness with dance music in a way that maybe only New Order and Cabaret Voltaire understood. There's also a few skeletal tracks that are more experimental. And when you give yourself over to it you realize the songwriting, the melodies, etc of the earliest material is still apparent. Really cool stuff.

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Saturday, 8 April 2006 13:56 (twenty years ago)

Fab. You really are doing God's work.

I had a copy of "Therapy" years ago and sold it on a while later, having failed to locate its joys. I look forward to hearing it again.

I always knew there was other, pre-"Cool Snap" gubbins, because it's mentioned on the wee bit of paper inside "Cool Snap" but only ever managed to find "Nerve Pylon". And then gave that away. "CS" remains one of my favourite records from that time, it's a record which anticipates some of the spikier end of indie which came a few years later (and I know Phil Wilson was a big Lines fan).

Tim (Tim), Saturday, 8 April 2006 14:17 (twenty years ago)

funny you should say that...back when I had a paragraph about the Lines on my old acute site, he emailed me out of the blue...said something to the effect of "when we started the June Brides all we hoped was to be able to put out singles as cool as the Lines".

if you like Cool Snap, you'll love the single that came just before, On the Air. It's similar but a bit more raw. There's a discography here:

http://www.torchsongonline.com/thelinesdiscography.html

as Rico Conning of the Lines has worked with William Orbit through the years...even on the Madonna stuff! Same Rico who worked with Depeche Mode, Front 242, Renegade Soundwave etc.

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Saturday, 8 April 2006 14:37 (twenty years ago)

According to that website The Lines complete works add up to eight minutes fifty-nine seconds in total so you'll only need one CD.

Raw Patrick (Raw Patrick), Saturday, 8 April 2006 17:52 (twenty years ago)

That first Weezer record.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 8 April 2006 18:02 (twenty years ago)

There's a very audible tape glitch in the middle of the track "Dead Rock and Rollers" on the Detention reissue CD "Expelled", said track being the main reason anyone is going to want the CD. Grrr.

dlp9001, Saturday, 8 April 2006 18:34 (twenty years ago)

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B0001JXQCE.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

....why?

Christopher Costello (CGC), Saturday, 8 April 2006 19:39 (twenty years ago)

There's a very audible tape glitch in the middle of the track "Dead Rock and Rollers" on the Detention reissue CD "Expelled", said track being the main reason anyone is going to want the CD. Grrr.
-- dlp9001 (dlp900...), April 8th, 2006 8:34 PM. (later)

>>

That track is on Killed By Death #2 - if you want a version without the glitch. I hadn't noticed it on my copy of Expelled but my CD player is getting old and cranky so it's possible it is on there and I assumed it was the CD player.

Colonel Poo (Colonel Poo), Saturday, 8 April 2006 23:15 (twenty years ago)

I remain somewhat annoyed by the Family Fodder "best of" that the otherwise lovely fellow at Dark Beloved Cloud released. Their best album ('Monkey Banana Kitchen'), best EP ('Schizophrenia') and best single ("Film Music") all fit wonderfully, in full, on a single disc. A band as obscure as that seems likely to get only one shot at being reissued--so the presense of a "greatest hits" likely means the relatively small catalogue in full will never be issued.

Similar treatment has recently hit Maximum Joy (whose entire oeuvre could've fit a single disc).

IM, Saturday, 8 April 2006 23:28 (twenty years ago)

I felt the same way about the Essential Logic 2CD on Kill Rock Stars; if they'd left off the Lora Logic solo songs (which could have been used to make another CD), they'd have had room to include all the Essential Logic songs.

Pangolino 2, Saturday, 8 April 2006 23:43 (twenty years ago)

The Fall wins another ILM thread.

DOQQUN (donut), Sunday, 9 April 2006 00:33 (twenty years ago)

There was a debate about the Essential Logic CD on the Typical Girls mailing list, basically ending w/ KRS position of allowing Lora Logic to curate her own collection.

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Sunday, 9 April 2006 00:42 (twenty years ago)

The Moon And Antarctica. Seriously, wtf?

van igloo (van smack), Sunday, 9 April 2006 00:45 (twenty years ago)

e. all of the above. No album deserves reissue or release for that matter. They all suck. I love music.

earinfections (Nick Twisp), Sunday, 9 April 2006 02:53 (twenty years ago)

I quite loved the Family Fodder compilation. I was thrilled to have "The Big Dig" on CD (which heretofore I only had on a scratchy but much-beloved Crammed Discs vinyl compilation), and I treasured the opportunity to hear the other stuff that had flown under my radar.

I wanted to be excited about the Essential Logic reissue, but unfortunately it was about five years too late to capture my interest. I'd already spent a fair amount of bucks in the '90s to hoover up all that stuff off of eBay.

Myke. (Myke Weiskopf), Sunday, 9 April 2006 02:57 (twenty years ago)

I'm always blown away to see some of the stuff this label reissues:

http://www.cherryred.co.uk/lemon/artists/index.htm

I guess there has to be a market for Faster Pussycat remix albums!

Brian Turner (btwfmu), Sunday, 9 April 2006 03:55 (twenty years ago)

The recent reissue of Duran Duran's Rio that is basically a reiteration of everything from the original CD of Rio plus some equally useless computer-only extras (three videos everyone's seen a thousand times before + info available on Tom McClintock's website + a little dd.com link = lame, lame, lame). What I and a whole bunch of other people were yearning for when we heard about a Rio reissue was that the it would feature the mixes from the third vinyl pressing of the album, the one featuring the Kershembaum remixes that almost all Americans would be familiar with first and foremost. Instead we got this SLIGHTLY crisper-sounding rehash of the CD that was first pressed and released sometime in the late '80s. WHAT. THE. FUCK.

(Seriosly, though. The Kershenbaum remixes are FAR better than the original versions of songs 1 - 5 on the album, from the title track to "Hold Back The Rain". Everything else is the same on all versions of the album.)

See Me, Repeat Me (Dee the Lurker), Sunday, 9 April 2006 04:23 (twenty years ago)

Sorry for being repetitive here. It's just... my God, I'd never felt so ripped off before, as when I got the stupid Rio reissue. And there are online instructions as to how to make your own CD version of the Rio I was talking about, but it's SO MUCH WORK.)

See Me, Repeat Me (Dee the Lurker), Sunday, 9 April 2006 04:25 (twenty years ago)

Does the rerecorded NERD album count? Like a Limp Bizkit cover of the original.

Dorian Lynskey, Sunday, 9 April 2006 16:38 (twenty years ago)

Supposedly the Replacements reissues were awful. I wouldn't know. I've never heard them.

Mr. Snrub (Mr. Snrub), Sunday, 9 April 2006 16:54 (twenty years ago)

The mix on Let It Be (Replacements) sucks unless you like it thin and abrasive.

Everyone ripped me for likeing Ben Folds Five "Whatever and Ever Bibbity Blah..." re-release (as seen here iBen Folds Five - Whatever and Ever Amen Reissue). But I will stand by it.

earinfections (Nick Twisp), Sunday, 9 April 2006 17:54 (twenty years ago)

TOP 5 Responses to "Whatever and Ever Amen" Reissue:

5. shouldn't there be like a 10 year minimum for this shit?

-- miccio (anthonyisrigh...), April 24th, 2005.


4. this record is only EIGHT fucking years old! it isn't as if this is the white album.

wtf is WRONG w/ the rekkid companies?!?

-- Eisbär (llamasfu...), April 24th, 2005.


3. Also. The re-release of this record ISN'T the cause of YOUR favourite record not being re-released. Get the fuck over it.

-- edward o (edwardo...), April 24th, 2005.


2. Ben Folds apologists make me embarrassed for them.

-- Sarah S. (ssmyth...), January 2nd, 2006.


1. oh great - please let them reissue this so i can step over the bodies of those men wallowing in self-pity over their inability to interact with love interests.

-- blackmail.is.my.life (blackmail.is.my.lif...), April 24th, 2005.

earinfections (Nick Twisp), Sunday, 9 April 2006 18:01 (twenty years ago)

they're doing proper rereleases (bonus tracks etc.) of the 'mats records at some point the future -- box set i think? but those other ones sucked, yeah.

A|ex P@reene (Pareene), Sunday, 9 April 2006 19:14 (twenty years ago)

can we please have all the smiths albums remastered and reissued? please? the sound is fucking atrocious. they did it with the cure, what's the holdup here?

Emily B (Emily B), Sunday, 9 April 2006 22:25 (twenty years ago)

I'd second that. The oh-well-it's-the-80's-what-do-you-expect asethetic is wearing thin. I can bearly hear those songs in the car.

earinfections (Nick Twisp), Sunday, 9 April 2006 23:17 (twenty years ago)

That first Weezer record.

-- Alex in NYC (vassife...), April 8th, 2006.

otm!

latebloomer: someone's been drinking my youth! (latebloomer), Sunday, 9 April 2006 23:19 (twenty years ago)

Reissuing "Pretty Hate Machine" with no extra tracks, liner notes, whatever seemed pretty unnecessary.

-- vartman (bl...), April 8th, 2006.

that was more because TVT were in the hole and had to auction off the rights to release it

latebloomer: someone's been drinking my youth! (latebloomer), Sunday, 9 April 2006 23:20 (twenty years ago)

the new radiant storm king reclamation project seems pointless, but that could just be my opinion.

keyth (keyth), Sunday, 9 April 2006 23:21 (twenty years ago)

howabout that pitiful Embarrassment compilation, Heyday? Unlistenably TINNY.

nerve pylon (flat_of_angles), Monday, 10 April 2006 00:32 (twenty years ago)

can we please have all the smiths albums remastered and reissued? please? the sound is fucking atrocious. they did it with the cure, what's the holdup here?

MIKE JOYCE duh

kit brash (kit brash), Monday, 10 April 2006 01:07 (twenty years ago)

Vote #1

Vote #2

meanwhile, the IRS years languish in low fidelity.

PeopleFunnyBoy (PeopleFunnyBoy), Monday, 10 April 2006 01:35 (twenty years ago)

The extras on Endtroducing... looked not worth selling your original CD for. But I don't know for sure.

Carlos Keith (Buck_Wilde), Sunday, 23 April 2006 09:58 (twenty years ago)

I picked them up on the "Extended Ephemera" LP or whatever it was called and I would confirm that ultimately, it wasn't worth it. Shadow in the liner notes pretty much admits that most of the b-sides were bullshit-- the result of scrambling through the studio, trying to hobble together anything that might resemble a b-side at the behest of the label.
Also the remixes & alt versions don't differ to terribly much from the originals.

Sparkle Motion's Rising Force, Sunday, 23 April 2006 15:28 (twenty years ago)

PeopleFunnyBoy = OTM.

I don't know if this counts as a reissue, but in terms of repackaging a record in a bizarre and virtually useless fashion, this takes the cake:

http://eil.com/newgallery/The-Killers-7-Inch-Box-Set-344717.jpg

M. Biondi (M. Biondi), Sunday, 23 April 2006 15:46 (twenty years ago)

Oh my god, that is fucking ridiculous. Though at least it looks like they've bunged some remixes and b-sides on the, er, b-sides, instead of just single-sided 7"s like the similar Interpol Antics box set.

Telephonething (Telephonething), Sunday, 23 April 2006 17:26 (twenty years ago)

any album that's already been reissued 2 or 3 times on CD

elvis costello can go fuck himself

m coleman (lovebug starski), Sunday, 23 April 2006 17:30 (twenty years ago)

Reissuing "Pretty Hate Machine" with no extra tracks, liner notes, whatever seemed pretty unnecessary.

I might be wrong, but wasn't this more a case of "weirdly, this album has actually been out of print for a short time!" The sort of thing where it made perfect sense to "re-issue" it in the sense of getting it back into stores...but for purposes of hyping it, getting it reviewed, etc, it was a lot more pointless.

Doctor Casino (Doctor Casino), Sunday, 23 April 2006 20:06 (twenty years ago)

one month passes...
As far as reissuing hits, WEA takes the cake for The Smiths. Singles, Best 1, Best 2, Best 1&2 box, The Best Of, blah blah blah. At least The World WOn't Listen and Hatful of Hollow had some merit when they came out. WEA needs to remaster the scant few proper albums that The Smiths released. 4 albums, 1 band with a ravenous following...seems simple to me.

The Dinosaur Jr. reissues on Merge are lame, too. Extra tracks/demos just have to be floating around. Instead we get lame fucking videos that you can watch on VH1's The Alternative.

While rubbish like Fleetwood Mac and Yes get the grand reissue treatment, classics are left w/ poor audio fidelity:

The Pretenders - The Pretenders
New Order - all back catalogue
Gang Of Four - Songs Of The Free (deleted in UK as well I believe)

These are all WEA-related albums (GOF was WEA in US), so why can't Rhino reissue these instead of the hated Mac and Yes?

Johnny Strangler, Wednesday, 31 May 2006 18:51 (nineteen years ago)

Why can't they release Gang of Four instead of Fleetwood Mac? Gee, I wonder.

Eppy (Eppy), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 18:54 (nineteen years ago)

I should have said "in addition to".

Johnny Strangler, Wednesday, 31 May 2006 18:59 (nineteen years ago)

Because Gang of Four sucks complete asshole and Fleetwood Mac is one of the best groups of the 70s?

Lee is Free (Lee is Free), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 19:02 (nineteen years ago)

Gang Of Four and Fleetwood Mac are two totally different bands, sure. Your opinion is fine, albeit a bit juvenile in wording, but Gang Of Four were highly influential on my generation, the postpunk movement, and several hundred bands currently playing for a new generation. Fleetwood Mac sold 20 million of Rumours, fine, but you can hear nearly the entire record on FM radio any given moment, any city. As far as being one of the best bands of the 70's...hardly. When Peter Green left, they went to shit.

Johnny Strangler, Wednesday, 31 May 2006 19:07 (nineteen years ago)

grow up and listen to some fuckin fleetwood mac, dude

I am ready to kill myself and eat my dog (teenagequiet), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 19:13 (nineteen years ago)

I'm 33. How much more do you want me to grow up? And, um, I do own the Fleetwood Mac box set of all the early Peter Green-era blues stuff. Schmaltzy, overplayed 70's rubbish is not my cup of tea.

Johnny Strangler, Wednesday, 31 May 2006 19:15 (nineteen years ago)

well jeez, if yr beef is w/overplayed 70's rubbish, what problems would you have with FM?

xxp - yeah, the merge dino reissues have inexplicable/dumb add-ons, but at least the remasters of the actual albums sound good

I am ready to kill myself and eat my dog (teenagequiet), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 19:18 (nineteen years ago)

Simple. I never listen to FM radio unless it's NPR. Other than that, compact discs do just fine. The art of the FM deejay has gone away anyway, everything is digital and they only stay within the boundaries of what is popular. How many times do we need to hear Boston or Fleetwood Mac? Instead of "More Than A Feeling or "Go Your Own Way", I'd rather hear "Cool The Engines" or "Tusk". Blah.

Johnny Strangler, Wednesday, 31 May 2006 19:23 (nineteen years ago)

The postpunk generation just don't know when to quit

Eppy (Eppy), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 19:26 (nineteen years ago)

Johnny Strangler, not to shoot you from both sides, but I don't think many people, even arch-enemies of Rumours, would call (post-Green) Bare Trees "went to shit." Danny Kirwan's brief moment of glory, etc.

dlp9001 (dlp9001), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 19:27 (nineteen years ago)

Eppy...
I am not of the postpunk generation. Truth be told, at 33, my first records happened to coincide with that scene and the synthy new wave stuff. Can't help being the age that I am. I listen to everything, ok? This isn't some "nose in the air" crap with me. I've never liked Rumours, never liked Tales From Topographic Oceans, etc. I like King Crimson, but am not fond of prog rock at all. I love Heart, but can't fathom Stevie Nicks singing "Rhiannon". This isn't some one-sided, jaded thing. The importance of Rumours on the store shelves is evident by the sales numbers, but sales does not make a classic record, nor does it make everyone in the free world have to sing its praises.

dlp9001...
Agreed. Kiln House was great, atmospheric stuff too. Seriously...it's the two Americans in the band that ruined them. I'm American, too, so that wasn't a jab or anything. Just fact.

Johnny Strangler, Wednesday, 31 May 2006 19:33 (nineteen years ago)

well yeah dude, i'd rather hear "tusk" over "go your own way" on the radio at this particular point in time too! i thought you were sayin "overplayed" in the sense of the music itself rather than how often you hear it on radio. of course, if you don't listen to the radio, is that much of a problem?

I am ready to kill myself and eat my dog (teenagequiet), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 19:37 (nineteen years ago)

very disappointed that the talking heads remasters came out as dualdiscs in the US; my cd players won't accept them. I returned one and the record store guy said they get 70% of them back. then he went into a screed about record companies in general that was quite funny. anyway, I don't know why the UK got normal CDs and DVDs for these and we got stuck with this unplayable shit.

kyle (akmonday), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 19:39 (nineteen years ago)

Heh, I guess it really isn't much of a problem. I guess I am still bitter at how FM radio has become a corporate whore these days.

Speaking of Tusk, the Camper Van Beethoven covers of that album are pretty interesting, if you haven't heard them yet.

Johnny Strangler, Wednesday, 31 May 2006 19:40 (nineteen years ago)

-the hated David Bowie reissues on Virgin that orphaned the wonderful Ryko bonus tracks (and the 2-disc special editions of the glam-era albums, with flimsy "book" packaging that falls apart if you so much as look in its direction, mostly useless bonus tracks, and on Ziggy, the left and right audio channels switched)

I don't neccessarily like the orphaning, but they sound a lot better than the Rykodisc ones. (I own the Ryko of "Ziggy Stardust" and if the audio channels are switched I will not buy the remaster)

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 20:37 (nineteen years ago)

Btw. the most unneccessary reissues are all the examples of when a recording company reissues a "Greatest Hits" with the exact same tracklisting, just giving it another name (or maybe not even that), without any kind of remastering or anything.

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 20:38 (nineteen years ago)

http://image.com.com/mp3/images/cover/200/drd600/d658/d65837p90cc.jpg

gear (gear), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 20:40 (nineteen years ago)

Geir- the regular Virgin reissue of Ziggy is fine, it's just the double-disc one that's got the channels flipped. And it may just be the first run of them or something, like the Scott Walker box set where a certain quantity of them was was missing a stereo channel entirely on the last disc.

Telephonething (Telephonething), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 20:56 (nineteen years ago)

Those Jimi Hendrix reissues sound really, really great and were certainly not unneccessary. The choice of album covers was a disgrace though.

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 21:07 (nineteen years ago)

as allmusic says:

The 1993 MCA version not only replaces the cover art with some truly awful artwork, but combines the US and UK releases, adhering to neither original running order. Bad move.

gear (gear), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 21:10 (nineteen years ago)

The Hendrix albums were remastered yet again in 1997, this time by Eddie Kramer and John McDermott, from the original 2 track tapes, as approved by the Hendrix family, whatever that means. The original running order and album art was restored on Are You Experienced?, (with the 6 bonus tracks added to the end) which I just bought. I have to compare them to see if the sound is improved at all, before I replace the others, which don't have bonus tracks.

Fastnbulbous (Fastnbulbous), Saturday, 10 June 2006 15:46 (nineteen years ago)

Deluxe 2CD reissue of Tears For Fears - Songs/Big Chair. Who would want that?

Even worse, the entire Bjork collection is being remastered/reissued on the dreaded DualDiscs. No album released after 1994 should be in need of a remaster, unless there's some really obvious fuckup.

I never liked Depeche Mode enough to own their albums. But the deluxe reissues are triggering a Pavlovian response, combined with Simon Reynolds mentioning he was surprised at how he likes them better than he remembered.

Fastnbulbous (Fastnbulbous), Saturday, 10 June 2006 16:02 (nineteen years ago)

The Deluxe reissues are worth it for the documentaries alone.

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Saturday, 10 June 2006 17:40 (nineteen years ago)

This DualDisc bullshit has got to stop. Does anyone actually like/want these things?

Marmot 4-Tay (marmotwolof), Sunday, 11 June 2006 00:25 (nineteen years ago)

the 2 disc primitives lazy period reissue 'buzz buzz buzz' is totally necessary.

keyth (keyth), Sunday, 11 June 2006 01:27 (nineteen years ago)

I was browsing and came across the Deluxe Edition of Joe Jackson's Night And Day. I like the slick Nu-Yorican vibe to it, but only really like about three songs. Yet a voice in me, like the woman who wanted the model boat in Napoleon Dynamite, said, "I want that." This may be my cry for help.

Universal has a lot of weird Deluxe Editions -- Gin Blossoms, Elton John, Melissa Etheridge, Grease. What's next, Xanadu?

Fastnbulbous (Fastnbulbous), Thursday, 15 June 2006 13:45 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, and I did a blind listening test for Are You Experienced and I could barely tell the difference, so I'm not replacing the others.

Fastnbulbous (Fastnbulbous), Thursday, 15 June 2006 13:49 (nineteen years ago)

When it arrives this autumn, the 1CD version of "Exciter" will be possibly be the most unneccessary reissue ever. I mean, sure the 2CD will contain a documentary, b-sides and 5:1-mixes, so that one will not be pointless. What what's the point of a remaster of a CD originally released in 2001?

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Thursday, 15 June 2006 20:43 (nineteen years ago)

The new reissue of Gold Mine Trash by Felt is very unnecessary and a complete ripoff. Two demo tracks that could have been placed on any other reissue or a compilation of b-sides.

svend (svend), Friday, 16 June 2006 00:46 (nineteen years ago)

three years pass...

Via Pfork:

Less than a year after the release of their debut album Manners, Passion Pit are giving it the deluxe reissue treatment. Out April 13 on Frenchkiss/Columbia, the new Manners will feature three bonus tracks and new artwork. The bonus tracks: "stripped down" takes on "Moth's Wings" and "Sleepyhead" and a cover of the Cranberries' "Dreams", which the band has been playing live.

http://pitchfork.com/news/38203-passion-pit-reissue-debut-album

I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Tuesday, 16 March 2010 17:12 (sixteen years ago)

The recent single CD issue of Big Star's 'Radio City' has the first second of 'September Gurls' indexed as part of the previous track. Fuck.

PaulTMA, Tuesday, 16 March 2010 18:31 (sixteen years ago)

And Julian Cope's 'Jehovahkill' has the worst remastering of all time. Never mind compression, it's been amplified to the point where it's distorted throughout. Utterly terrible.

PaulTMA, Tuesday, 16 March 2010 18:32 (sixteen years ago)

Do they still make Dual Discs? I hope not. I could never figure out a way to burn them to my computer.

musicfanatic, Tuesday, 16 March 2010 18:38 (sixteen years ago)

Dual Discs seem to be universally loathed, so I doubt they make them anymore. The only ones I have are the Talking Heads reissues and I could always get the CD side to work in both of the Macs in my house (though not in my car). I can sympathize though, I was nervous the first time I shoved those thick discs into the drive...

elephant rob, Tuesday, 16 March 2010 20:28 (sixteen years ago)

I was browsing and came across the Deluxe Edition of Joe Jackson's Night And Day. I like the slick Nu-Yorican vibe to it, but only really like about three songs.

I was coming here to post about this Deluxe Edition--they included the 5 songs from the contemporaneous, never-on-CD Mike's Murder soundtrack (yay!) but left out all the instrumental tracks so they could slap on 5 cuts from the easy-to-find-on-CD Live 1980-1986 album.

Hideous Lump, Tuesday, 16 March 2010 20:40 (sixteen years ago)

xxxxpost - And that's gotta be at least the THIRD Big Star CD reissue! Too bad you didn't get one of the two-fers instead... :(

Half lies and gorilla dust (Myonga Vön Bontee), Tuesday, 16 March 2010 21:47 (sixteen years ago)

And because I have to complain about this somewhere, some whining about the otherwise exemplary Who reissues of the '90s:

- Too much double dipping - Following up the fab single-disc reissues of The Who Sell Out, Tommy, Live at Leeds and Who's Next with 2-disc Deluxe Editions that aren't extra-fab enough for me to want to spend another $25 or $30 on each.

- As thorough as they were in filling these things up with rarities, there are still 13 previously released tracks (mostly b-sides) that didn't show up on any of the reissues or the 30 Years of Maximum R&B box set:

Baby Don't You Do It (Live)
Bargain (Live) [from the "Who's Missing" comp]
Circles (Instant Party) [Rerecorded version]
Dogs, Part 2
Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde
Goin' Down (Live) [from the "Two's Missing" comp]
Here for More
I'm a Boy (Early Version)
My Wife (Live) [from the "Two's Missing" comp]
Someone's Coming
Substitute [the original single is only available on any of a million redundant Greatest Hits comps)
Waspman
When I Was a Boy

And if you don't have the box set, you're missing out on these, too. Even the better Greatest Hits comps won't get you all of these:

Anyway Anyhow Anywhere
Call Me Lightning
Dogs
Happy Jack
Heaven and Hell
I'm a Boy
Join Together
The Last Time
Let's See Action
Magic Bus
Pictures of Lily
Relay
The Seeker

What they should have done was release a remastered Meaty Beaty Big and Bouncy collection and added the rest of the missing tracks. But they didn't. Bastards.

Hideous Lump, Tuesday, 16 March 2010 22:08 (sixteen years ago)

the who catalogue is kind of a mess. as far as I can tell some of the best editions of things were released on cd in Japan only. the live at leeds deluxe edition sounds awful too. although, I think the new Sell Out deluxe is supposed to be good?

as annoying as it is that elvis costello reissues his catalogue every year, it did seem like he kept going a better and better job of it (until the Hip-O versions anyway). The Rykos were great and then the Rhinos came out and retained almost all of the Ryko bonus tracks PLUS more. The new deluxe editions aren't necessary to me since the bonus discs are live only (don't care) but I can see people wanting them, I guess.

Bowie's catalogue also a mess. I have a feeling Bowie might kick the bucket soon so maybe something good will come out after he dies (not to be morbid).

akm, Tuesday, 16 March 2010 22:15 (sixteen years ago)

waht

I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Tuesday, 16 March 2010 22:16 (sixteen years ago)

- As thorough as they were in filling these things up with rarities, there are still 13 previously released tracks (mostly b-sides) that didn't show up on any of the reissues or the 30 Years of Maximum R&B box set:

Baby Don't You Do It (Live)
Bargain (Live) [from the "Who's Missing" comp]

These are on the fan-club-only 2CD View From A Backstage Pass live compilation (at thewho.com...for fifty goddamn dollars)

Dogs, Part 2

This is on the 2CD Tommy Deluxe Edition.

My Wife (Live) [from the "Two's Missing" comp]

Also on View From A Backstage Pass.

Someone's Coming

This was on the 1995 reissue of The Who Sell Out (can't remember if it's on the 2009 2CD reissue)

Tarfumes The Escape Goat, Tuesday, 16 March 2010 22:24 (sixteen years ago)

^ "Someone's Coming" - Whoops, you're right.

Hideous Lump, Tuesday, 16 March 2010 23:26 (sixteen years ago)

Did the recent reissues of RIO include those aforementioned Kershenbaum remixes? I don't think i've ever heard of those.

piscesx, Wednesday, 17 March 2010 00:56 (sixteen years ago)

A tad spurious seeing as it's not a reissue as such just a dvd of an old Vhs, but i'll just moan a little more about it anyway; the DVD of blur StarShaped which as has been documented elsewhere many times is *literally* unlistenable. I mean with all the renwed interest around them and the new documentary movie you'd think it could have been issued again with decent sound.

piscesx, Wednesday, 17 March 2010 01:02 (sixteen years ago)

is the sound worse than the VHS, or is just that the source sound (crappy handheld cameras) was rubbish to begin with?

parm goin' ham (sic), Wednesday, 17 March 2010 01:09 (sixteen years ago)

"xxxxpost - And that's gotta be at least the THIRD Big Star CD reissue! Too bad you didn't get one of the two-fers instead... :("

Or did a decade ago and wondered why the latest one was so pish?

PaulTMA, Wednesday, 17 March 2010 01:21 (sixteen years ago)

The 25th anniversary edition of "Thriller" was pretty much pointless. The version with the Quincy Jones interview and E.T. album track on it was a lot more interesting for those of us who reckon that music from 1982 should also sound like music from 1982.

Tied Up In Geir (Geir Hongro), Wednesday, 17 March 2010 01:22 (sixteen years ago)

twelve years pass...

just absolutely no shame in the jazz reissue biz, so dumb, I thought Verve was remotely serious

https://i.imgur.com/CWvdfIa.png

corrs unplugged, Thursday, 21 April 2022 06:59 (four years ago)

this is tangential to the subject of the thread, but can anyone recommend a good article about the rise of functional 'music to exercise/study/sleep/whatever to' playlists becoming a major way that people consume music, and the effects on the industry? (maybe tying it in to the longer history of 'functional' music, muzak etc?)

soref, Thursday, 21 April 2022 07:49 (four years ago)

Those WFH albums seem to be digital only at least, was loling thinking of someone proudly buying a vinyl record of that.

Daniel_Rf, Thursday, 21 April 2022 08:43 (four years ago)

Workin' (From Home) With The Miles Davis Quintet

but also fuck you (unperson), Thursday, 21 April 2022 11:56 (four years ago)

Verve's jazz reissues even on CD were often pretty wack. They did do some back in the late 90s like this one.

https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/41RVDG70VGL.jpg

Now on some of these releases where they got all hipster Photoshop/Illustrator 1998, they would bend fonts and put them on backgrounds where often trying to read the liner notes was a near impossibility.

They would also often times use weird die cut cases that pretty much guaranteed that the record would fall out of print.

earlnash, Thursday, 21 April 2022 12:03 (four years ago)

The music is not wack, that should be said. I own this one. At the time most of RRK's records of that era had not yet come out on CD.

earlnash, Thursday, 21 April 2022 12:04 (four years ago)

I revisit that second Blackbeard record frequently, so weird/great.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ztVpsVEzo6U

Maresn3st, Thursday, 21 April 2022 12:24 (four years ago)

Oh bum, wrong thread :(

Maresn3st, Thursday, 21 April 2022 12:26 (four years ago)


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