Roxy Music post "Siren" C/D?

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A lot of people seem to consider the first four Roxy Music albums their best. Those are completely OK, but for me, it's the later output that is genius. Simply put, Roxy Music, in the midst of the New Romantics era, made better New Romantics than most of the younger New Romantic acts.

"Avalon" is sort of considered a classic album, and that is well-deserved. Personally, though, I rank "Manifesto" and "Flesh + Blood" almost the same way. Both are chock full of classic tracks, with "Dance Away" being probably the first "new romantic" song ever, plus their take on "In The Midnight Hour" is SOOOOOO much better than the overrated original by Wilson Pickett.

Roxy Music ended on top, with their best three albums being their last three ones.
(And Ferry's solo output after that has been great too)

― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Monday, 10 April 2006 17:03 (twenty years ago)

DO WE REALLY NEED ANOTHER ROXY MUSIC THREAD AT THIS MOMENT?

― cutty (mcutt), Monday, 10 April 2006 17:10 (twenty years ago)

You should start a thread on that.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 10 April 2006 17:10 (twenty years ago)

either way, are we talking about siren or avalon here?

― cutty (mcutt), Monday, 10 April 2006 17:11 (twenty years ago)

Everything they did after "Siren". Including "Avalon"

― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Monday, 10 April 2006 17:12 (twenty years ago)

their take on "In The Midnight Hour" is SOOOOOO much better than the overrated original by Wilson Pickett.

Geir, I love you.

But Flesh & Blood is their weakest album, despite "Same Old Scene" and "Over You." The second side is caca (the synths on "Rain Rain Rain" sound like Asia); the title track is the creepiest thing Ferry's ever sung, and not in a good way either.

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Monday, 10 April 2006 17:20 (twenty years ago)

But Flesh & Blood is their weakest album

It is in fact a trick question: Roxy Music do not have a weakest album.

― rogermexico (rogermexico), Monday, 10 April 2006 17:23 (twenty years ago)

flesh & blood also has "oh yeah," which along with the other two songs lord soto mentions makes it a damn good album even with all that caca. i never got anything out of manifesto besides "dance away."

― fact checking cuz (fcc), Monday, 10 April 2006 17:25 (twenty years ago)

Wait, you don't even like "Manifesto" the song? Are you nuts?

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 10 April 2006 17:28 (twenty years ago)

it's quite possible i am nuts, yes.

― fact checking cuz (fcc), Monday, 10 April 2006 17:31 (twenty years ago)

Wait, you don't even like "Manifesto" the song? Are you nuts?

Easily in my top 5 Roxy songs evah

― Dave Depper (Dave Depper), Monday, 10 April 2006 17:33 (twenty years ago)

"Manifesto" the song's genius notwithstanding, Ferry wasn't exactly shooting for High Art with the post-Siren records.

― Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Monday, 10 April 2006 17:36 (twenty years ago)

Ferry wasn't exactly shooting for High Art with the post-Siren records.

Was he ever? I thought he was always shooting for Pop Art.

Re Manifesto: I like the laidback quasi-funk stuff: "Ain't That So" and "Still Falls the Rain" in particular; and "Spin Me Round" is a lovely underrated ballad.

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Monday, 10 April 2006 17:52 (twenty years ago)

?utty is right. All this Roxy/Ferry talk would hang together better if it weren't running on like five threads at the same time.

I find the 80s Roxy just too settled for me, although I definitely loved it years ago. For me, Avalon is now firmly in that category of "classic, well-nigh perfect albums that I never want to listen to. But, along with listening to Frantic closely and browsing the early Ferry solo LPs again, Manifesto could probably do with re-evaluating Manifesto. But Siren is still my favorite and I don't think anything will ever change that.

― someone let this mitya out! (mitya), Monday, 10 April 2006 18:00 (twenty years ago)

flesh & blood also has "oh yeah," which along with the other two songs lord soto mentions makes it a damn good album even with all that caca

Are we including "My Only Love" and "Running Wild" in the caca-pile? Because that would be a mistake, and history would judge us harshly.

― rogermexico (rogermexico), Monday, 10 April 2006 18:02 (twenty years ago)

?uttylove

― cutty (mcutt), Monday, 10 April 2006 18:06 (twenty years ago)

The chorus of "Running Wild" sounds weak; the verses and opening guitar motif are much better.

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Monday, 10 April 2006 18:06 (twenty years ago)

That's true. Weak is probably too kind. Nonetheless...

― rogermexico (rogermexico), Monday, 10 April 2006 18:08 (twenty years ago)

I'm none too fond of the oft-performed "My Only Love" either. It's one of the few times when Ferry's unironic singing flatten the mood (perhaps because the song is so dull?). I don't hear romantic yearning – I hear constipation. He does this sort of thing much better on Avalon.

On the reunion DVD Roxy turn it into a Dark Side of the Moon outtake (and Ferry gets to play a rare extended keyboard solo).

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Monday, 10 April 2006 18:14 (twenty years ago)

I thought he was always shooting for Pop Art

Not with post-Siren stuff he wasn't. In fact, if you believe the interviews from around that time, I'm not sure he was shooting for anything other than chart success with those records.

― Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Monday, 10 April 2006 18:14 (twenty years ago)

I'm none too fond of the oft-performed "My Only Love" either.

Have you seen Laurel Canyon? Hilarity makes it even classic-er.

― rogermexico (rogermexico), Monday, 10 April 2006 18:34 (twenty years ago)

i just remembered i have a siren poster i never hung up.

― cutty (mcutt), Monday, 10 April 2006 19:53 (twenty years ago)

I'll put my neck on the tracks for Avalon, far and away the best post-Siren Roxy Music album. It's Roxy's mature peak, roughly analagous to Steely Dan's Guacho not slick or slight so much as a distillation of the group's bittersweet romantic side. Avalon contains some of Ferry's most emotionally commited vocals and the lush sonics were influential on a lots of subsequent British pop.

― m coleman (lovebug starski), Monday, 10 April 2006 20:11 (twenty years ago)

I'll put my neck on the tracks for Avalon, far and away the best post-Siren Roxy Music album. It's Roxy's mature peak, roughly analagous to Steely Dan's Guacho not slick or slight so much as a distillation of the group's bittersweet romantic side.

Fascinating! I don't hear bittersweet romanticism in Gaucho, not one note: it's fagged-out, embittered, exhausted (I love it).

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Monday, 10 April 2006 20:16 (twenty years ago)

I don't get any hate for Avalon myself. It was my first Roxy album, the same way that The High King was my first Prydain book. In both cases I might have gotten the order 'wrong,' but they were both enjoyable individually and in a much greater context.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 10 April 2006 20:19 (twenty years ago)

It's been said in other threads, but a huge part of what makes Avalon such an enjoyable experience is the mix. Keyboards have never sounded so warm and gauzy.

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Monday, 10 April 2006 20:32 (twenty years ago)

Manifesto > Flesh + Blood > Avalon > whatever they did after Avalon.

Come to think of it, they might even be one of those rare bands who got worse with every subsequent album, starting with their debut! (There was a thread about those last year; did anybody mention them?) I'm kind of amazed that they never occured to me before now. (But I am not in any way dissing Manifesto, which I've loved since it came out in 1979.)

― xhuxk, Monday, 10 April 2006 20:56 (twenty years ago)

What do you love about Manifesto, chuck?

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Monday, 10 April 2006 21:01 (twenty years ago)

It's new wave, not new age! "Trash," "Ain't That So," "My Little Girl," "Dance Away," "Cry Cry Cry"...it's like they'd absorbed disco (which they had already started to do on *Siren*, I guess, but at that point it hadn't really *happened* yet), but they still remembered they were a rock band. *Flesh + Blood* was kind of cool because it was Roxy ripping off the Cars ripping off Roxy. (*Avalon* was pleasant wallpaper, I guess. So yeah, like *Gaucho.* But I don't like *Gaucho* much, either.)

― xhuxk, Monday, 10 April 2006 21:11 (twenty years ago)

And I could have just as well said "punk" instead of "disco" (especially with "Trash.") Though yeah, they were punk-disco before punk or disco happened. But my new wave is skinny ties in 1979, not Duran Duran 1982 lifestyle music. And 1979 was the year I really started buying records, and *Manifesto* was right in there with *Armed Forces* and *Tonic for the Troops* and *Mirror Stars* and *You're Never Alone With a Schizophrenic* and *Look Sharp* and *Squeezing Out Sparks* and *Cool for Cats* (best Squeeze album ever!) as one of the first albums I bought, after hearing it on all three Detroit rock stations. Which it rocked hard enough for. By '82, Roxy were deteriorating into lounge music.

― xhuxk, Monday, 10 April 2006 21:18 (twenty years ago)

The ersatz funk stuff is pretty good, but c'mon, Chuck - "Cry Cry Cry"?!?

(their best disco number is "Same Old Scene")

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Monday, 10 April 2006 21:24 (twenty years ago)

I dunno, is "Cry Cry Cry" that bad? It sure sounds catchy in my head right now, but I definitely haven't played the album from start to end for a few years, so maybe you're right. (I *have* taken the LP to DJ gigs, though.) Anyway, I guess you could say that the story of Roxy is a story of increasingly smoothing off rough edges, and by Avalon that weren't any left. And not much prog left, either. And nothing fast anymore. Sad...

― xhuxk, Monday, 10 April 2006 21:33 (twenty years ago)

(Then again, it's been even longer since I've played Avalon than since I've played Manifesto. A *lot* longer. So maybe if I played it now I'd be less bored by it than I used to be, and I'd think everything I just wrote was all wrong, who knows? I kinda doubt it, though.)

― xhuxk, Monday, 10 April 2006 21:36 (twenty years ago)

"Cry Cry Cry" always seemed like Ferry aping the O'Jays or Gamble-Huff, and the strain shows.

I'm surprised you haven't mentioned "Angel Eyes"! That one works.

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Monday, 10 April 2006 21:36 (twenty years ago)

So let's talk about the video for "Angel Eyes."

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 10 April 2006 21:40 (twenty years ago)

Manzanera wearing the "Virginia Plain" fright-goggles?

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Monday, 10 April 2006 21:44 (twenty years ago)

YouTube?

― Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Monday, 10 April 2006 21:45 (twenty years ago)

Actually, I just got home and checked my (vinyl) copy of *Manifesto* and I've got "Ain't That So" and "My Little Girl" (the latter with a star) marked for DJ-spinning reasons, so I'm guessing I must have decided those were most conducive to dancing (or at least standing around rhythmically drinking beer) at one point.

― xhuxk, Monday, 10 April 2006 23:04 (twenty years ago)

If there is a worst Roxy album, I'd pick "Country Life".

However, amongst those three last albums, yes, "Avalon" is my favourite too, and also my all-time favourite Roxy Music album. The title track almost makes it classic alone, and third single "Take a Chance With Me" is indeed perhaps their most underrated single.

I love "Manifesto" and "Flesh + Blood" too though, and while I don't dislike any of their earlier albums either, I don't find them half as enjoyable as anything on their last three albums.

Plus "Bete Noire" is a very underrated Ferry solo album!

― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Monday, 10 April 2006 23:08 (twenty years ago)

"If there is a worst Roxy album, I'd pick Country Life."

INSANITY!!

All of the first 5 are great, definite dropoff after the break but still some classic songs. Like many of you, Avalon was my gateway to the Roxy but once I heard the early stuff I rarely went back to the later work.

― timmy tannin (pompous), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 01:17 (twenty years ago)

I think Siren is the best all around, but I have cranky opinions about RM. (They are genuine though.) I utterly love many of their individuals songs, but don't find any of their albums satisfying straight through.

― Rockist_Scientist (RSLaRue), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 01:21 (twenty years ago)

Can we just stop for a second and enjoy that Ned invoked PRYDAIN?

― Petroski (petroski), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 02:39 (twenty years ago)

"All the world/even you/should learn to love the way I do"

― m coleman (lovebug starski), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 09:11 (twenty years ago)

K — just re-listened to Manifesto on the way to work. By a MILE the best song on it is the title track. Elsewhere, the biggest surprise was what a supremely boring and uninspired record it is, vascillating between pop tunes lunging for the charts and grooves supplemented by rather aimless melodies and Andy Mackay overdubs.

And I would also add that the birth of Avalon/Boys and Girls and latter day Ferry can be found in Flesh and Blood's "Oh Yeah".

― Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 12:29 (twenty years ago)

the stuff on side 2 of 'f+b' that sounds like the end of "for your pleasure" is OK

― dave q (listerine), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 14:48 (twenty years ago)

Hm. I would have said "Dance Away."

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 14:53 (twenty years ago)

(xpost)

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 14:53 (twenty years ago)

I suspect we all went home last nite and heard Manifesto.

The first side's much better than that, Matthew. I still really enjoy "Ain't That So" and "Still Falls the Rain," and they sure as hell sound better than "No Strange Delight" and "Rain Rain Rain."

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 14:55 (twenty years ago)

the guitar intro to "still falls the rain" is good but it starts to suck after that. ferry's "sympathy for the devil" was better

― dave q (listerine), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 15:10 (twenty years ago)

Manifesto is the bridge album into the 80s sonic taffeta thing. The lunges for the charts still have a pernicious irony about them. Like that pick slide in the intro of "Trash"--it's totally in quotes.

― Grey, Ian (IanBrooklyn), Friday, 14 April 2006 04:46 (twenty years ago)

one month passes...

Re: Manifesto
I picked this up recently after hearing the excellent title track. I enjoyed the first side quite a bit. It is a bit streamlined as compared to earlier stuff, but even so, it's not all that far removed from the relatively concise pop style of Siren, and there's still enough interesting sounds here and there to keep my interest.

But the second side? Wow, what a drop off! Schmaltz city. Did this have something to do with the East Side/West Side thing?

Still, nice of them to keep the duds all confined to one side. Convenient when listening on vinyl.

― David Bachyrycz (David Bachyrycz), Friday, 9 June 2006 21:59 (nineteen years ago)

Manifesto sounds like a reasonable continuation of Siren... guitars not so loud, more synths, but the songwriting is still a bit weird.. especially the first half, as David here mentions.

I bet Roxy fans were really bummed when Flesh & Blood came out.

Sure, a few songs aside, *snooze*... that album cover, dear fucking god. I think the only album cover that's worse than Flesh & Blood is KC & The Sunshine Band's Do You Wanna Party?... and that's a better album!

I never got the love of Avalon. "More Than This" is nice pudding.. the rest of the album is just less flavorful pudding, but at least it's pudding. Nothing I'd want to hear too often. Avalon was my first exposure to Roxy Music and it turned me off the band for 15 years or so.. then I heard "Virginia Plain" one day and went "woah! This is the same band?", and the digging into the early stuff began and flourished from there.

― ((((((DOPplur)))n)))u))))tttt (donut), Friday, 9 June 2006 22:18 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.recordsale.de/cdpix/r/roxy_music-flesh_and_blood.jpg http://s3.amazonaws.com/coolforever/kcandthesunshinebband_doyouwannagoparty_jeff_lp.jpg

― ((((((DOPplur)))n)))u))))tttt (donut), Friday, 9 June 2006 22:24 (nineteen years ago)

I like the cover of Flesh + Blood more than a lot of their other covers. (I don't remember anything about what it sounds like except that I've never liked it.)

― Rockist_Scientist (RSLaRue), Friday, 9 June 2006 23:20 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.coachkrall.com/images/javelin/photos/Fatima_Whitbread.JPG

― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Friday, 9 June 2006 23:39 (nineteen years ago)

The remixed/re-recorded version of "Trash" called "Trash 2" is a Manifesto b-side that's one of my top 5 Roxy songs ever.

― LOL Thomas (Chris Barrus), Friday, 9 June 2006 23:52 (nineteen years ago)

After side two of Manifesto I'm not really itching to hear Flesh + Blood, but I'll admit that Chuck's description upthread does raise some interest:

*Flesh + Blood* was kind of cool because it was Roxy ripping off the Cars ripping off Roxy.

― David Bachyrycz (David Bachyrycz), Friday, 9 June 2006 23:56 (nineteen years ago)

I utterly love many of their individuals songs, but don't find any of their albums satisfying straight through.

the stuff on side 2 of 'f+b' that sounds like the end of "for your pleasure" is OK.

I never liked sides 2 of Manifesto, F+B or For Your Pleasure very much. OK, Manifesto even has the deliberately seperated and distinctive "East" and "West" sides. Maybe they are at most a "sides band" for me. F+B side 1 has an album sound or flow,

but generally i've found my favourite RM songs so precise and unique in their catchiness and respective sound ranges that I now think of the albums as just collections of these otherwise disparate songs. The old larger vinyl albums used to remind me of glossy mags with occasional articles or art of interest, the kitsh covers like crass symbols of pungent mixes of content and trash.

later RM .. what about "Stronger Through The Years" ?

― george gosset (gegoss), Saturday, 10 June 2006 05:52 (nineteen years ago)

plus their take on "In The Midnight Hour" is SOOOOOO much better than the overrated original by Wilson Pickett.

Slightly off topic, but I was watching some history of the electric guitar documentary on The Documentary Channel (they only have a few music ones, Bowie An Earthling At 50, Pixies Gouge, Don Letts' Clash doc Westway To the World, a Bob Marley) and Steve Cropper was going into detail about and playing his intro to that Pickett song. Then he tells of playing it exactly backwards to come up with Knock On Wood. By the way, why do you think the pickett original is overrated? Because it's one of the very most highly regarded soul hits of all-time and you think it's not quite all that or you think it's nothing special?

― Carlos Keith (Buck_Wilde), Saturday, 10 June 2006 06:28 (nineteen years ago)

I have a REAL problem with Roxy Music's Siren. I pulled that out of an old bunch of CD's I'd had laying around and if that wasn't the most boring piece of shite (including Both Ends Burning, wtf). Oh my god wasn't punk just begging to happen in 1975 if the best thing off that piece of crap by far was Love Is The Drug.

What a fall from grace for that band!

― Has-been Hash Brown (Bimble...), Saturday, 10 June 2006 15:20 (nineteen years ago)

I think both Manifesto and Flesh and Blood are probably better than people give them credit for; I hadn't heard Manifesto for years until recently and lately it's been my album of choice to throw on, but that may be due to the unfamiliarity of it. Flesh and Blood I'd NEVER heard until a few weeks ago and I thought it was okay; I really do like their version of Eight Miles High.

― kyle (akmonday), Saturday, 10 June 2006 17:29 (nineteen years ago)

Oh my god wasn't punk just begging to happen in 1975 if the best thing off that piece of crap by far was Love Is The Drug.

My head spins as I try to figure out what this is supposed to mean.

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Saturday, 10 June 2006 17:49 (nineteen years ago)

It means love. Maybe.

Can we just stop for a second and enjoy that Ned invoked PRYDAIN?

I know what I'm doing!

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 10 June 2006 17:53 (nineteen years ago)

Okay, well to be fair I haven't tried Flesh & Blood, really. I don't think I've tried that one.

― Trend Bucking, Bend Trucking (Bimble...), Saturday, 10 June 2006 18:08 (nineteen years ago)

I just downloaded Avalon and Roxy Music out of curiosity. I unabashedly love the former, but haven't gone past two tracks of the latter. I enjoy it, but i get distracted by other albums and invariably flip to something else. I'll keep at it, though; i am curious!

― derrick (derrick), Sunday, 11 June 2006 05:29 (nineteen years ago)

four months pass...

So I've got a radio broadcast of a show Roxy did in Boston in 1979 for the Manifesto tour and the opener is a version of "Manifesto" itself that outdoes the original even. What a band.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 27 October 2006 13:19 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, and just the *way* Ferry sings "Heavy metal trick or treat" makes me so happy every time.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 27 October 2006 13:23 (nineteen years ago)

Is this that live album with the blue cover (no, not Viva!) I've seen in some stores? It's dated fall 1980. I always meant to get it.

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Friday, 27 October 2006 13:52 (nineteen years ago)

I think that's a Denver broadcast.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 27 October 2006 13:54 (nineteen years ago)

Manifesto and Flesh&Blood are half good, and Avalon is the weakest of all the Roxy albums.

― zeus (zeus), Friday, 27 October 2006 14:05 (nineteen years ago)

Avalon falls into a small category of albums I would describe as accidentally great. There's no reason at all that such an unironic, non-representative work should be their best*, exceeding even their classic mid-70s stuff. But it is, and it does.

*IMO YMMV

― M. V. (M.V.), Friday, 27 October 2006 14:06 (nineteen years ago)

ironic = good? :0

― PRKLTR (flezaffe), Friday, 27 October 2006 14:08 (nineteen years ago)

Well, on those seventies albums I always heard genuine sincerity in Ferry's attempts at distance, and this tension created the irony, so Avalon is a natural progression.

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Friday, 27 October 2006 14:09 (nineteen years ago)

ironic = good? :0

Generally when ironists turn earnest in their dotage the results are pretty awful.

― M. V. (M.V.), Friday, 27 October 2006 14:21 (nineteen years ago)

i've been meaning to start this thread. or maybe a what else sounds like late period Roxy. i've been sorta addicted for maybe going on 2weeks straight now. Manifesto is fucking blowing me away. Avalon, Flesh + Blood and solo Ferry albums (boys & girls) are all i'm listening to.

― jaxon (jaxon), Friday, 27 October 2006 16:25 (nineteen years ago)

OMG the video for "angel eyes". bryan ferry reminds me of jim carey :-/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CoiDGbwypzU

― jaxon (jaxon), Friday, 27 October 2006 17:37 (nineteen years ago)

I kind of like the way, post-"Siren," that Ferry's solo albums (featuring most of Roxy on them) out Roxy Roxy.

I recently took out the last couple of Manzanera solo albums, and they give me hope for the new Roxy Music disc. Pretty much the whole band shows up on them, minus Ferry but plus Robert Wyatt, David Gilmour and Chrissie Hynde (!). And, yes, Eno, too.

― Josh in Chicago (Josh in Chicago), Friday, 27 October 2006 18:15 (nineteen years ago)

Fabulous, I had never seen that Angel Eyes video! As for what sounds similar: Japan's Gentlemen Take Polaroids, Ultravox circa Quartet, maybe even Simple Minds' New Gold Dream.

― Daniel Peterson (polkaholic), Friday, 27 October 2006 18:25 (nineteen years ago)

Some great Bryan Ferry remarks on this thread.

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Friday, 27 October 2006 18:49 (nineteen years ago)

Many of them Alfred's.

― R_S (RSLaRue), Friday, 27 October 2006 19:52 (nineteen years ago)

I am not immune to self-promotion.

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Friday, 27 October 2006 20:06 (nineteen years ago)

When you could be talking about ME instead.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 27 October 2006 20:07 (nineteen years ago)

Egotist, n. A person of low taste, more interested in himself than in me. -- Ambrose Bierce, The Devil's Dictionary

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 27 October 2006 20:08 (nineteen years ago)

five years pass...

i think manifesto and flesh + blood are really slept on. don't hear a lot about this song:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UFadTILdKqM

― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Wednesday, 5 September 2012 22:30 (thirteen years ago)

is it just me or does bryan ferry look about seven feet tall in that video?

― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Wednesday, 5 September 2012 22:30 (thirteen years ago)

and that fog machine is out of hand.

― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Wednesday, 5 September 2012 22:31 (thirteen years ago)

*Flesh + Blood* was kind of cool because it was Roxy ripping off the Cars ripping off Roxy

gotta hand it to chuck eddy for making this observation. i think "ripping off" is much too harsh, but the guitar interplay (all the arpeggiated stuff) is definitely reminding me of the cars (not just on "oh yeah" but particularly "over you," which is a deathless song).

― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Wednesday, 5 September 2012 22:34 (thirteen years ago)

Ferry's synth lines in the outro are among the best ever.

F+B should be in a poll of worst albums with the best singles.

― a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 5 September 2012 22:40 (thirteen years ago)

maybe, i dunno if it's particularly unpleasant, just a bit uninspired. title track to manifesto is genius.

― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Wednesday, 5 September 2012 22:41 (thirteen years ago)

sw00ds and I spoke at length about this period during our podcasts two years ago:

http://rockcriticsarchives.com/audiovisual/index-roxy.html

― a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 5 September 2012 22:44 (thirteen years ago)

i'm not gonna listen to a podcast of a bunch of dudes talkin about roxy music, sorry.

― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Wednesday, 5 September 2012 22:51 (thirteen years ago)

i will however follow a thread of a bunch of dudes talkin about roxy music.

― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Wednesday, 5 September 2012 22:51 (thirteen years ago)

in honor of this thread I played "Rain Rain Rain." That will do.

― a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 5 September 2012 22:55 (thirteen years ago)

five years pass...

Well, here we are. The best of the make-out inferno years.

― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 9 August 2018 01:19 (seven years ago)

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