D-12's Proof shot and killed

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Second victim, also shot in the head (critical condition) is possibly Bizarre (also of D-12) (unconfirmed as of now)

http://www.allhiphop.com/hiphopnews/?ID=5552

StanM (StanM), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 12:44 (twenty years ago)

grim. why would they have been able to ID one but not the other (esp. if they were as recognisable as Bizarre)?

Konal Doddz (blueski), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 12:50 (twenty years ago)

Pending notification of family?

Edward III (edward iii), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 12:50 (twenty years ago)

D-10?

jinx hijinks (sanskrit), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 12:51 (twenty years ago)

Marshall will have to carry 20% of his bags on his own now :(

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 12:53 (twenty years ago)

Second victim still on life-support, it seems.

mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 12:53 (twenty years ago)

He made an album called Searching For Jerry Garcia?

pdf (Phil Freeman), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 12:56 (twenty years ago)

http://www.sohh.com/articles/article.php/8717 : "Word is Biz has yet to be accounted for."

StanM (StanM), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 12:56 (twenty years ago)

This is fucked up.

deeej, Tuesday, 11 April 2006 13:08 (twenty years ago)

http://www.myspace.com/proofd12 (loads of r.i.p. messages)
http://www.myspace.com/bizarre (no clues here yet)

StanM (StanM), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 13:10 (twenty years ago)

R.I.P. Proof of D12 those stupid haters killed you BUt your fans will miss you.

YOU know i woke up this mornin and turned on the news and i couldnt believe my ears as i poured my coffey. The newes man said that rapper proof was shoot and killed sometime this morning. I dont know the details but i want to say this.


STOP KILLEN DETROIT MUSICIANS YOU GOD DAMN FUCKIN PUNK ASS HATERS

I HOPE THEY FIND WHO EVER DID THIS AND TORTURE THERE FUCKIN PUNK ASS
AND
WHOEVER DID THIS SHOULD GET THE ELECTRIC CHAIR

IMEAN WHO THE FUCK WERE THEY
THAT THEY SHOULD BE ABLE TO TAKE PROOFS LIFE

THIS MAN WAS BLESSED BY GOD
THIS MAN AS A YOUNG MAN HAD A DREAM AND WAS LIVING IT
AND SOME JEALOSY MOTHER FUCKER HAD TO KILL HIM

20-40 YEAR OLDS WHO ARE OG GANGBANGERS OR ARE STILL TRY TO GANGBANG OR STILL TRYIN TO COME U IN THE GAME. I HAVE THIS TO SAY TO YOU.
GIVE IT THE FUCK UP.
GROW THE FUCK UP.
PUT THE FUCKIN GUNS DOWN.

AND TO THE MOTHER FUCKER WHO KILLED PROOF

I HOPE YOU ROT IN JAIL WITH NO CONVERSARY AND YOU GET ASS RAPED AND BEAT DOWN ON A DAILY BASIS AND YOU DIE FROM STARVATION BECAUSE EVERYONE HATES YO FOR KILEN PROOF.


IF YOU WILL MISS PROOF REPOST THIS AS
"R.I.P. Proof of D12 FUCK those stupid haters WHO KILLED U "

I HOPE WHOEVER IS RESPONSIBLE GET RODE ON BY A MACHINE GUN CREW and even that is too good for whoever is responsible

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 13:13 (twenty years ago)

for a second there i was wondering how google indexed this thread so fast.

jinx hijinks (sanskrit), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 13:15 (twenty years ago)

sheesh!

mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 13:16 (twenty years ago)

What the hell.

Phil, did Proof’s album ever actually come out?

Raymond Cummings (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 13:29 (twenty years ago)

I was reading a couple of news and RIP threads on other boards and stumbled across this.

My whole day is ruined now

Seriously wtf?!

Onimo (GerryNemo), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 13:56 (twenty years ago)

ah. I remember wanting to review it and the release date kept being pushed back and then I just lost track of it.

I still kind of can't believe this happened.

Raymond Cummings (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 14:07 (twenty years ago)

this is the guy portrayed by Mekhi Phifer in 8 Mile, right?

hank (hank s), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 14:23 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, that's him.

My Psychic Friends Are Strangely Silent (Ex Leon), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 14:25 (twenty years ago)

Brilliant news:

dead prez's M-1, D12's Proof and Umar Bin Hassan of The Last Poets are among the artists who have agreed to appear on an album about homeownership produced by a Detroit real estate investor.

Investor Robert Shumake went from being homeless as a child to owning Inheritance Investment Group, one of the top real estate companies in Michigan. Now he wants to give back to a younger generation by expressing the importance of homeownership and the opportunities of real estate investing. Being a part of the hip-hop generation himself, he thought that a rap album would be the best way to get his message out to the youth.

"I love hip-hop and I know kids really listen to the lyrics of rap songs, so I didn't see any better way to teach them about the real estate business and the importance of home ownership," says Shumake. "It is a fun, inspiring educational tool."

After choosing to produce the album, Shumake put a call out to rappers and spoken word artists, asking them to submit demos for the project entitled Take the Land: Elements of Real Estate.

"I gave them free reign to talk about homeownership however they wanted," says Shumake. "And the results were incredible. They made the principles of homeownership not only exciting and understandable-but radio friendly."

I hope he got his tracks down before he got shot dead: http://www.sohh.com/articles/article.php/8714

James Mitchell (James Mitchell), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 14:35 (twenty years ago)

dude.

gabbneb (gabbneb), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 14:37 (twenty years ago)

It's good to know that his last act on this earth was a selfless one.

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 14:40 (twenty years ago)

http://www.cnn.com/2006/SHOWBIZ/Music/04/11/rapperkilled.ap/index.html

Raymond Cummings (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 14:41 (twenty years ago)

It's good to know that his last act on this earth was a selfless one.

What will your last act be, one wonders. Let's hope making snarky comments about a man being shot in the back of the head isn't the height of your achievements.

Onimo (GerryNemo), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 14:43 (twenty years ago)

"Yellow Brick Road"

[Intro]
What we have to do is deal with it when these individuals are young enough. If you wish to be
saved, not in a religious sense but not to constitute what this country at times calls if or
which over. We seem to be approaching an age of the gross. We all have this idea that we should
move up from our parents station and each generation should do a little bit better.

[Verse 1- Eminem]
Come on, let's cut the bullshit enough
Let's get it started, let's start addressing this issue and open it up
Let's take this shit back to basement
And we can disscuss statements thats made on this tape
And its whole origin of the music that we all know and love
The music that we all enjoy the music you all accuse me of tryna destroy
Let's rewind it to 89 when I was a boy on the east side of Detroit
Crossin 8 Mile into Warren, into hick territory
I'd like to share a story, this is my story and cant no body tell it for me
You will well inform me, I am well aware that I don't belong here
You've made that perfectly clear, I get my ass kicked damn near everywhere
From Bel-Air shopping center just for stopping in there
From the black side all the way to the white side
Okay there's a bright side a day that I might slide
You may call it a past I call it haulin my ass
Through that patch of grass over them railroad tracks
Oh them railroad tracks, them old railroad tracks
Them good old notorious oh well known tracks

[Chorus x2]
So lets go back
Follow the yellow brick road as we go on another episode
Journey with me as I take you through this nifty little place
I once used to call home sweet home

[Verse 2- Eminem]
I roam the streets so much they call me a drifter
Sometimes I stick up a thumb just to hitch hike
Just to get picked up to get me a lift to 8 mile and Van Dyke
And steal a god damn bike from somebody's backyard
And drop it off at the park that was the half way mark
To meet Kim had to walk back to her mama's on Chalmers after dark
To sneak me in the house when I'm kicked out my mom's
Thats about the time I first met Proof with Goofy Gary on the steps
At Osbourne handing out some flyers, he was doin some talent shows
At Centerline High, I had told him to stop by and check this out sometime
He looked at me like I'm out my mind shook his head like white boys dont know how to rhyme
I spit out a line and rhymed birthday with first place
And we both had the same rhymes that sound alike
We was on the same shit that Big Daddy Kane shit with compound syllables sound combined
From that day we was down to ride somehow we knew we'd meet again somewhere down the line

[Chorus x2]
So lets go back
Follow the yellow brick road as we go on another episode
Journey with me as I take you through this nifty little place
I once used to call home sweet home

[Verse 3- Eminem]
My first year in 9th grade, can't forget that day at school
It was cool till your man MC Shan came through
And said that Puma's The Brand 'cause the clan makes troops
It was rumors but man, god damn, they flew
Musta been true because man we done banned they shoes
I had the new ones the Cool J, Ice land swayed too
And we just through them in the trash like they yesterday's news
Guess who came through next, X-clan debut
Professor X vanglorious exists in a state of red, black, and green
With a key sissies now with this bein a new trend
We don't fit in crackas is out with Cactus albums
Blackness is in, African symbols and medallions
Represents black power and we ain't know what it meant
Me and my man Howard and Butter, we would go to the mall with 'em
All over our necks like we're showin 'em off not knowin at all
We was bein laughed at you ain't even half black
You ain't supposed to have that homie let me grab that
And that Flavor Flave clock we gon' have to snatch that
All I remember is meetin back at Manix's basement
Sayin' how we hate this, how racist but dope the x clan take this
Which reminds me back in 89 me and Kim broke up for the first time
She was tryna two time me and there was this black girl
At our school who thought I was cool cuz I rapped so she was kinda eyein me
And oh the irony guess what her name was ain't even gon' say it plus
The same color hair as hers was and blue contacts and a pair of jugs
The bombest god damn girl in our whole school if I could pull it
Not only would I become more popular but I would be able to piss Kim off at the same time
But it backfired I was supposed to dump her but she dumped me for this black guy
And thats the last I ever seen or heard or spoke to the oh foolish pride girl
But I've heard people say they heard the tape and it ain't that bad
But it was I singled out a whole race and for that apologize
I was wrong cuz no matter what color a girl is she's still a...

[Chorus x2]
So lets go back
Follow the yellow brick road as we go on another episode
Journey with me as I take you through this nifty little place
I once used to call home sweet home

Raymond Cummings (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 14:44 (twenty years ago)

Crap. Shit week for Marshall, what with the second divorce and all.

But yeah, RIP Proof.

Roz (Roz), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 14:48 (twenty years ago)

Second man is NOT Bizarre.

http://www.allhiphop.com/hiphopnews/?ID=5552 :

Interscope represenatives also confirmed Bizarre was not involved in the incident.

"Contrary to earlier rumors and reports, D-12 member Bizarre was not involved in the incident in Detroit last night," Interscope said. "He was at home in Atlanta, Georgia."

StanM (StanM), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 14:50 (twenty years ago)

(this does not make it a less sad story, obv, just updating here)

StanM (StanM), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 14:51 (twenty years ago)

What the fuck is wrong with half of the people at ILM. More like 2/3rds. Some real fucking idiots.

Period period period (Period period period), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 14:53 (twenty years ago)

someone just pointed out to me how the "Like Toy Soldiers" video is kinda prophetic now.

Alex in Baltimore (Alex in Baltimore), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 15:43 (twenty years ago)

also if you go to http://www.d12online.com/ to read the news about Proof, you get a pop-up ad for 50 Cent's video game "Bulletproof." Bullet Proof! How insensitive!

Alex in Baltimore (Alex in Baltimore), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 15:46 (twenty years ago)

I was wondering why I heard My Band by D12 on the radio this morning.

Disco Nihilist (mjt), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 16:04 (twenty years ago)

Allhiphop's headline "D-12 Rapper Proof Shot And Killed, Bizarre Alive In Georgia" must look pretty weird and confusing if you don't already know that Bizarre was also suspected to have been shot.

Alex in Baltimore (Alex in Baltimore), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 16:12 (twenty years ago)

wow that's sad. dom yr being kind of an asshole dude.

i liked proof's verses.

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 17:44 (twenty years ago)

This sucks. Way to go, Detroit.

js (honestengine), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 18:41 (twenty years ago)

(Though at least he had his Royce beef sewn up earlier this year).

js (honestengine), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 18:42 (twenty years ago)

Not part of the bigger Detroit War?

Police believe two guns were used, men may have shot each other (second man identified as bouncer Keith Bender)

http://www.allhiphop.com/hiphopnews/?ID=5555

StanM (StanM), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 08:16 (twenty years ago)

RIP Proof - great talent - damn shame

Hey Dom, you are quite despicable. You And your ilk have already ruined Stylus Magazine. Why don't you just stick to that abortion and leave ILM alone?

Swordfishtrombones, Wednesday, 12 April 2006 10:40 (twenty years ago)

pwned

jinx hijinks (sanskrit), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 10:49 (twenty years ago)

(dom pwned not rapper dude)

jinx hijinks (sanskrit), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 10:49 (twenty years ago)

Instigators, turn pits in cages, let loose and bit the neighbors, wrist to razors y'all don't want war, y'all want talk, in the dark my dogs all bark like WOOF! Proof nigga I'm a wolf, get your whole roof, caved in like reindeer hoofs, stomp the booth, shake the floor tiles loose, the more y'all breath shit, the more i lose moves, It's Hill Street, this is hardcore blues, put a gun to rap check in all our dues nigga or make the news, betcha all move when the uzi pop, you better drop when the music stops...

john clarkson, Wednesday, 12 April 2006 12:29 (twenty years ago)

Searching... now has an Amazon.com sales rank of #158.

I'm not getting why Proof wasn't a hip-hop contender by this point -- I mean, I can't recall any of his D-12 rhymes at all, but he seems to have been pretty talented.

Raymond Cummings (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 15:20 (twenty years ago)

Further piecing together has led to this theory:

Proof shot the other guy first (fight about a pool game), then got killed by the cousin of the guy he'd shot. (Proof's killer has now turned himself in)

http://www.allhiphop.com/hiphopnews/?ID=5563

StanM (StanM), Thursday, 13 April 2006 08:12 (twenty years ago)

u will always be remembered cos ure a soulja
ADIUE big proof
we miss u

wahab, Sunday, 23 April 2006 06:02 (twenty years ago)

Former amateur boxer and current Sopranos fan Mitch Albom weighs in:

MITCH ALBOM: Lesson from Proof: Rappers heal thyself

April 23, 2006

BY MITCH ALBOM

FREE PRESS COLUMNIST

They say the first stage of grief is denial. And at the funeral of the rapper Proof, some folks were apparently in severe denial -- about what he contributed, the world he celebrated or their own part in the culture of violence that killed him.

Let's begin with Proof himself (legal name Deshaun Holton), who died not serving his country or saving a child but after a Detroit bar fight at 4:30 in the morning. Although police say his last act on Earth was pistol-whipping then shooting another man -- before he himself was shot and killed -- Proof was nonetheless hailed at his funeral for his friendship, his aura and, ironically, his love of people.

And his music, which includes these lyrics:

You got a gun on your waist,
I got (one too)

Or this:

We gon' ride till the wheels fall off
Or God wanna kill us off (gun sound)
I don't duck when you pop that gat.

Love of people?

'We're killing each other'

One of the rappers who spoke at the funeral last week was Obie Trice, a member of the circle that includes Eminem and the group D12.

Trice, according to published reports, told mourners: "I wanna talk to the black men in here that's coming up in the hood. ... We're killing each other, dawg. And it's about nothing. Nothing. Nothing."

Powerful words. But they'd carry more weight if Obie Trice didn't make his money recording songs with lyrics like these:

I got a 12 gauge Mossberg
to pump up your chest
Have you gasping for air after
that shell hit your vest
Fear me like you fear God
cause I bring death

Or this:

You back on the streets?
I send another hit at you
This is not a hypocritical issue
I will critical condition your tissue

And then there's Eminem, the biggest star in Detroit's rap universe. He spoke of Proof, his best friend, with understandable grief. I don't doubt they were close.

But Eminem himself has recorded songs about killing his wife, stuffing her in the trunk and driving her to the beach to dump her, with his young daughter in car. And in real life he has been arrested for brandishing guns during confrontations.

Does all this stuff not count?

Intersection of art and real life

Look, every guy is a great guy at his funeral. And your friends always are going to see the best in you.

But when you enter the public stage, you are judged by your actions on that stage. I would love to have my pals race to defend me anytime I write or broadcast something disagreeable, but it doesn't work that way. What you do is what they remember.

What Proof and other rappers do -- not all the time, but too much to ignore -- is glorify guns, violence and attitude, the kind of attitude that escalates an argument into a deadly encounter.

You can't suddenly decry that in a church when you've been making money from it out on the streets.

If the mourners saying "stop the violence" are serious, they'll begin with their own lyrics. And maybe we in the Detroit media should be less mesmerized by the fame of our hometown rappers and more critical of how that fame is achieved.

Finally, for those who say the thug image is just part of rap's "art," it's role-playing, why don't I know the difference -- well, I do. Here's the difference.

A bullet.

Contact MITCH ALBOM at 313-223-4581 or malbom@freepress.com. Catch "The Mitch Albom Show" 5-7 p.m. weekdays on WJR-AM (760).

Andy_K (Andy_K), Sunday, 23 April 2006 12:29 (twenty years ago)

ten years pass...

10 years big dogg

Neanderthal, Tuesday, 30 August 2016 02:33 (nine years ago)


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