http://www.drownedinsound.com/content/view/762791
― Onimo (GerryNemo), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 12:30 (twenty years ago)
http://www.allhiphop.com/hiphopnews/?ID=5552
― StanM (StanM), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 12:44 (twenty years ago)
― Konal Doddz (blueski), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 12:50 (twenty years ago)
― Edward III (edward iii), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 12:50 (twenty years ago)
― jinx hijinks (sanskrit), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 12:51 (twenty years ago)
― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 12:53 (twenty years ago)
― mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 12:53 (twenty years ago)
― pdf (Phil Freeman), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 12:56 (twenty years ago)
― StanM (StanM), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 12:56 (twenty years ago)
― deeej, Tuesday, 11 April 2006 13:08 (twenty years ago)
― StanM (StanM), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 13:10 (twenty years ago)
YOU know i woke up this mornin and turned on the news and i couldnt believe my ears as i poured my coffey. The newes man said that rapper proof was shoot and killed sometime this morning. I dont know the details but i want to say this.
STOP KILLEN DETROIT MUSICIANS YOU GOD DAMN FUCKIN PUNK ASS HATERS
I HOPE THEY FIND WHO EVER DID THIS AND TORTURE THERE FUCKIN PUNK ASSANDWHOEVER DID THIS SHOULD GET THE ELECTRIC CHAIR
IMEAN WHO THE FUCK WERE THEYTHAT THEY SHOULD BE ABLE TO TAKE PROOFS LIFE
THIS MAN WAS BLESSED BY GODTHIS MAN AS A YOUNG MAN HAD A DREAM AND WAS LIVING ITAND SOME JEALOSY MOTHER FUCKER HAD TO KILL HIM
20-40 YEAR OLDS WHO ARE OG GANGBANGERS OR ARE STILL TRY TO GANGBANG OR STILL TRYIN TO COME U IN THE GAME. I HAVE THIS TO SAY TO YOU.GIVE IT THE FUCK UP.GROW THE FUCK UP.PUT THE FUCKIN GUNS DOWN.
AND TO THE MOTHER FUCKER WHO KILLED PROOF
I HOPE YOU ROT IN JAIL WITH NO CONVERSARY AND YOU GET ASS RAPED AND BEAT DOWN ON A DAILY BASIS AND YOU DIE FROM STARVATION BECAUSE EVERYONE HATES YO FOR KILEN PROOF.
IF YOU WILL MISS PROOF REPOST THIS AS"R.I.P. Proof of D12 FUCK those stupid haters WHO KILLED U "
I HOPE WHOEVER IS RESPONSIBLE GET RODE ON BY A MACHINE GUN CREW and even that is too good for whoever is responsible
― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 13:13 (twenty years ago)
― jinx hijinks (sanskrit), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 13:15 (twenty years ago)
― mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 13:16 (twenty years ago)
Phil, did Proof’s album ever actually come out?
― Raymond Cummings (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 13:29 (twenty years ago)
― Onimo (GerryNemo), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 13:51 (twenty years ago)
My whole day is ruined now
Seriously wtf?!
― Onimo (GerryNemo), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 13:56 (twenty years ago)
I still kind of can't believe this happened.
― Raymond Cummings (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 14:07 (twenty years ago)
― hank (hank s), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 14:23 (twenty years ago)
― My Psychic Friends Are Strangely Silent (Ex Leon), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 14:25 (twenty years ago)
dead prez's M-1, D12's Proof and Umar Bin Hassan of The Last Poets are among the artists who have agreed to appear on an album about homeownership produced by a Detroit real estate investor.
Investor Robert Shumake went from being homeless as a child to owning Inheritance Investment Group, one of the top real estate companies in Michigan. Now he wants to give back to a younger generation by expressing the importance of homeownership and the opportunities of real estate investing. Being a part of the hip-hop generation himself, he thought that a rap album would be the best way to get his message out to the youth.
"I love hip-hop and I know kids really listen to the lyrics of rap songs, so I didn't see any better way to teach them about the real estate business and the importance of home ownership," says Shumake. "It is a fun, inspiring educational tool."
After choosing to produce the album, Shumake put a call out to rappers and spoken word artists, asking them to submit demos for the project entitled Take the Land: Elements of Real Estate.
"I gave them free reign to talk about homeownership however they wanted," says Shumake. "And the results were incredible. They made the principles of homeownership not only exciting and understandable-but radio friendly."
I hope he got his tracks down before he got shot dead: http://www.sohh.com/articles/article.php/8714
― James Mitchell (James Mitchell), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 14:35 (twenty years ago)
― gabbneb (gabbneb), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 14:37 (twenty years ago)
― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 14:40 (twenty years ago)
― Raymond Cummings (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 14:41 (twenty years ago)
What will your last act be, one wonders. Let's hope making snarky comments about a man being shot in the back of the head isn't the height of your achievements.
― Onimo (GerryNemo), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 14:43 (twenty years ago)
[Intro]What we have to do is deal with it when these individuals are young enough. If you wish to besaved, not in a religious sense but not to constitute what this country at times calls if orwhich over. We seem to be approaching an age of the gross. We all have this idea that we shouldmove up from our parents station and each generation should do a little bit better.
[Verse 1- Eminem]Come on, let's cut the bullshit enoughLet's get it started, let's start addressing this issue and open it upLet's take this shit back to basementAnd we can disscuss statements thats made on this tapeAnd its whole origin of the music that we all know and loveThe music that we all enjoy the music you all accuse me of tryna destroyLet's rewind it to 89 when I was a boy on the east side of DetroitCrossin 8 Mile into Warren, into hick territoryI'd like to share a story, this is my story and cant no body tell it for meYou will well inform me, I am well aware that I don't belong hereYou've made that perfectly clear, I get my ass kicked damn near everywhereFrom Bel-Air shopping center just for stopping in thereFrom the black side all the way to the white sideOkay there's a bright side a day that I might slideYou may call it a past I call it haulin my assThrough that patch of grass over them railroad tracksOh them railroad tracks, them old railroad tracksThem good old notorious oh well known tracks
[Chorus x2]So lets go backFollow the yellow brick road as we go on another episodeJourney with me as I take you through this nifty little placeI once used to call home sweet home
[Verse 2- Eminem]I roam the streets so much they call me a drifterSometimes I stick up a thumb just to hitch hikeJust to get picked up to get me a lift to 8 mile and Van DykeAnd steal a god damn bike from somebody's backyardAnd drop it off at the park that was the half way markTo meet Kim had to walk back to her mama's on Chalmers after darkTo sneak me in the house when I'm kicked out my mom'sThats about the time I first met Proof with Goofy Gary on the stepsAt Osbourne handing out some flyers, he was doin some talent showsAt Centerline High, I had told him to stop by and check this out sometimeHe looked at me like I'm out my mind shook his head like white boys dont know how to rhymeI spit out a line and rhymed birthday with first placeAnd we both had the same rhymes that sound alikeWe was on the same shit that Big Daddy Kane shit with compound syllables sound combinedFrom that day we was down to ride somehow we knew we'd meet again somewhere down the line
[Verse 3- Eminem]My first year in 9th grade, can't forget that day at schoolIt was cool till your man MC Shan came throughAnd said that Puma's The Brand 'cause the clan makes troopsIt was rumors but man, god damn, they flewMusta been true because man we done banned they shoesI had the new ones the Cool J, Ice land swayed tooAnd we just through them in the trash like they yesterday's newsGuess who came through next, X-clan debutProfessor X vanglorious exists in a state of red, black, and greenWith a key sissies now with this bein a new trendWe don't fit in crackas is out with Cactus albumsBlackness is in, African symbols and medallionsRepresents black power and we ain't know what it meantMe and my man Howard and Butter, we would go to the mall with 'emAll over our necks like we're showin 'em off not knowin at allWe was bein laughed at you ain't even half blackYou ain't supposed to have that homie let me grab thatAnd that Flavor Flave clock we gon' have to snatch thatAll I remember is meetin back at Manix's basementSayin' how we hate this, how racist but dope the x clan take thisWhich reminds me back in 89 me and Kim broke up for the first timeShe was tryna two time me and there was this black girlAt our school who thought I was cool cuz I rapped so she was kinda eyein meAnd oh the irony guess what her name was ain't even gon' say it plusThe same color hair as hers was and blue contacts and a pair of jugsThe bombest god damn girl in our whole school if I could pull itNot only would I become more popular but I would be able to piss Kim off at the same timeBut it backfired I was supposed to dump her but she dumped me for this black guyAnd thats the last I ever seen or heard or spoke to the oh foolish pride girlBut I've heard people say they heard the tape and it ain't that badBut it was I singled out a whole race and for that apologizeI was wrong cuz no matter what color a girl is she's still a...
― Raymond Cummings (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 14:44 (twenty years ago)
But yeah, RIP Proof.
― Roz (Roz), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 14:48 (twenty years ago)
http://www.allhiphop.com/hiphopnews/?ID=5552 :
Interscope represenatives also confirmed Bizarre was not involved in the incident.
"Contrary to earlier rumors and reports, D-12 member Bizarre was not involved in the incident in Detroit last night," Interscope said. "He was at home in Atlanta, Georgia."
― StanM (StanM), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 14:50 (twenty years ago)
― StanM (StanM), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 14:51 (twenty years ago)
― Period period period (Period period period), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 14:53 (twenty years ago)
― Alex in Baltimore (Alex in Baltimore), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 15:43 (twenty years ago)
― Alex in Baltimore (Alex in Baltimore), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 15:46 (twenty years ago)
― Disco Nihilist (mjt), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 16:04 (twenty years ago)
― Alex in Baltimore (Alex in Baltimore), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 16:12 (twenty years ago)
i liked proof's verses.
― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 17:44 (twenty years ago)
― js (honestengine), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 18:41 (twenty years ago)
― js (honestengine), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 18:42 (twenty years ago)
Police believe two guns were used, men may have shot each other (second man identified as bouncer Keith Bender)
http://www.allhiphop.com/hiphopnews/?ID=5555
― StanM (StanM), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 08:16 (twenty years ago)
Hey Dom, you are quite despicable. You And your ilk have already ruined Stylus Magazine. Why don't you just stick to that abortion and leave ILM alone?
― Swordfishtrombones, Wednesday, 12 April 2006 10:40 (twenty years ago)
― jinx hijinks (sanskrit), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 10:49 (twenty years ago)
― john clarkson, Wednesday, 12 April 2006 12:29 (twenty years ago)
I'm not getting why Proof wasn't a hip-hop contender by this point -- I mean, I can't recall any of his D-12 rhymes at all, but he seems to have been pretty talented.
― Raymond Cummings (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 15:20 (twenty years ago)
Proof shot the other guy first (fight about a pool game), then got killed by the cousin of the guy he'd shot. (Proof's killer has now turned himself in)
http://www.allhiphop.com/hiphopnews/?ID=5563
― StanM (StanM), Thursday, 13 April 2006 08:12 (twenty years ago)
― wahab, Sunday, 23 April 2006 06:02 (twenty years ago)
MITCH ALBOM: Lesson from Proof: Rappers heal thyself
April 23, 2006
BY MITCH ALBOM
FREE PRESS COLUMNIST
They say the first stage of grief is denial. And at the funeral of the rapper Proof, some folks were apparently in severe denial -- about what he contributed, the world he celebrated or their own part in the culture of violence that killed him.
Let's begin with Proof himself (legal name Deshaun Holton), who died not serving his country or saving a child but after a Detroit bar fight at 4:30 in the morning. Although police say his last act on Earth was pistol-whipping then shooting another man -- before he himself was shot and killed -- Proof was nonetheless hailed at his funeral for his friendship, his aura and, ironically, his love of people.
And his music, which includes these lyrics:
You got a gun on your waist,I got (one too)
Or this:
We gon' ride till the wheels fall offOr God wanna kill us off (gun sound)I don't duck when you pop that gat.
Love of people?
'We're killing each other'
One of the rappers who spoke at the funeral last week was Obie Trice, a member of the circle that includes Eminem and the group D12.
Trice, according to published reports, told mourners: "I wanna talk to the black men in here that's coming up in the hood. ... We're killing each other, dawg. And it's about nothing. Nothing. Nothing."
Powerful words. But they'd carry more weight if Obie Trice didn't make his money recording songs with lyrics like these:
I got a 12 gauge Mossbergto pump up your chestHave you gasping for air afterthat shell hit your vestFear me like you fear Godcause I bring death
You back on the streets?I send another hit at youThis is not a hypocritical issueI will critical condition your tissue
And then there's Eminem, the biggest star in Detroit's rap universe. He spoke of Proof, his best friend, with understandable grief. I don't doubt they were close.
But Eminem himself has recorded songs about killing his wife, stuffing her in the trunk and driving her to the beach to dump her, with his young daughter in car. And in real life he has been arrested for brandishing guns during confrontations.
Does all this stuff not count?
Intersection of art and real life
Look, every guy is a great guy at his funeral. And your friends always are going to see the best in you.
But when you enter the public stage, you are judged by your actions on that stage. I would love to have my pals race to defend me anytime I write or broadcast something disagreeable, but it doesn't work that way. What you do is what they remember.
What Proof and other rappers do -- not all the time, but too much to ignore -- is glorify guns, violence and attitude, the kind of attitude that escalates an argument into a deadly encounter.
You can't suddenly decry that in a church when you've been making money from it out on the streets.
If the mourners saying "stop the violence" are serious, they'll begin with their own lyrics. And maybe we in the Detroit media should be less mesmerized by the fame of our hometown rappers and more critical of how that fame is achieved.
Finally, for those who say the thug image is just part of rap's "art," it's role-playing, why don't I know the difference -- well, I do. Here's the difference.
A bullet.
Contact MITCH ALBOM at 313-223-4581 or malbom@freepress.com. Catch "The Mitch Albom Show" 5-7 p.m. weekdays on WJR-AM (760).
― Andy_K (Andy_K), Sunday, 23 April 2006 12:29 (twenty years ago)
10 years big dogg
― Neanderthal, Tuesday, 30 August 2016 02:33 (nine years ago)