"he poos clouds" by Final Fantasy, early contender for album of the year

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for real. brilliant. relentlessly so. leaps and bounds better than the first, and to boot his live show is ace.

kevin barking (arghargh), Friday, 14 April 2006 21:04 (twenty years ago)

Hear more albums.

Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Friday, 14 April 2006 21:07 (twenty years ago)

i hear enough bitch

kevin barking (arghargh), Friday, 14 April 2006 21:10 (twenty years ago)

I remain unconvinced.

Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Friday, 14 April 2006 21:11 (twenty years ago)

Needs more ska punk.

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Friday, 14 April 2006 21:20 (twenty years ago)

more than 4 words, plz

mts (theoreticalgirl), Friday, 14 April 2006 21:22 (twenty years ago)

Final Fantasy VII >>>>>>>>> Final Fantasy, fiddlin' dude

M. Biondi (M. Biondi), Friday, 14 April 2006 21:22 (twenty years ago)

^Damn straight.

Cloud's hair>>Final Fantasy

Harrison Barr (Petar), Friday, 14 April 2006 21:27 (twenty years ago)

by "he" they mean sufjan stevens and by "clouds" they mean records better than this one

yours fondly, harshaw. (mrgn), Friday, 14 April 2006 21:57 (twenty years ago)

is there a thread about albums people won't ever buy/download based purely on the title.

polyphonic (polyphonic), Friday, 14 April 2006 22:04 (twenty years ago)

Don't let the title deter you; this guy sure can fiddle with the best of 'em!

M. Biondi (M. Biondi), Friday, 14 April 2006 22:11 (twenty years ago)

Calling yourself "Final Fantasy" is slightly less cool than calling yourself "Shit Bucket".

Ich Haben Gepuken Like Ein Mutterfucken (noodle vague), Friday, 14 April 2006 22:13 (twenty years ago)

working 3rd album title: he toured with arcade fire

yours fondly, harshaw. (mrgn), Friday, 14 April 2006 22:25 (twenty years ago)

I detest people who say "poo".

Brooker Buckingham (Brooker B), Friday, 14 April 2006 23:12 (twenty years ago)

Shit Bucket >>> early contender for album of the year

J Plowright (J Plowright), Friday, 14 April 2006 23:13 (twenty years ago)

Worst band name/album name combo since... y'know actually I can't really think of a worse one.

Whiney G. Weingarten (whineyg), Saturday, 15 April 2006 02:48 (twenty years ago)

i prefer "poo" to "poop". poo feels more free, like you're sliding belly-down on ice or some other slick surface...."poooooooooooooooooo!"

latebloomer: Ambassador With Training In Righteousness (latebloomer), Saturday, 15 April 2006 03:21 (twenty years ago)

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zappi (joni), Saturday, 15 April 2006 04:21 (twenty years ago)

http://wizardishungry.com/lol/wesley-justice.jpg

PREPARE TO HAVE JUSTICE SERVED!!!!!!

Fight the Real Enemy -- Tasti D-Lite (ex machina), Saturday, 15 April 2006 04:22 (twenty years ago)

yikes

if the record had sounded anything like sufjan stevens i would've shot myself out of boredom

can you imagine being waking up as sufjan? "what should i do today? write a song? doodle-oodle-oodle-oodle-oodle-oodle-oodle-oodle. doodle-oodle-oodle-oodle-oodle-oodle-oodle-oodle-oodle-oodle."

Owen Pallett (Owen Pallett), Saturday, 15 April 2006 12:30 (twenty years ago)

Thank you for sharing your interesting and informed opinion.

Mingus Realty (noodle vague), Saturday, 15 April 2006 12:32 (twenty years ago)

sufjan stevens probably wakes up to blowjobs every morning

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electric sound of jim (and why not) (electricsound), Saturday, 15 April 2006 12:32 (twenty years ago)

I remember the interview where the FF guy talked about how he had never played Final Fantasy but just knew it was this "big gay thing." Great for wtf-roffles.

Curt1s St3ph3ns, Saturday, 15 April 2006 13:49 (twenty years ago)

lies. never said that. i've played every final fantasy, and three of them to completion.

final fantasy x is entirely, wholly gay, from start to finish. the female characters were so weak that they had to make an all-girl sequel. you can tell that gays are pulling the strings when none of the characters have beards. also, a lot of father-son conflicts.

final fantasy vii is absolutely, supremely gay. cloud is a tortured homo, hiding his true feelings by pretending to be conflicted between tifa and aeris. then aeris dies and he can spend the rest of his life "never getting over her" when really, he's having a hard time actually killing his tortured homo crush. the final scenes of final fantasy vii could've been taken from a mishima novel.

the least gay final fantasy is final fantasy vi. also, the most enjoyable.

Owen Pallett (Owen Pallett), Saturday, 15 April 2006 14:11 (twenty years ago)

so, uh ... "he poos clouds"?

tom west (thomp), Saturday, 15 April 2006 14:35 (twenty years ago)

"the least gay final fantasy is final fantasy vi. also, the most enjoyable."

i feel like there is some wise aphorism hidden in there, but i can't quite find it.

sean gramophone (Sean M), Saturday, 15 April 2006 15:28 (twenty years ago)

haha. I like that Final Fantasy analysis, but yeah. "he poos clouds"?

Mickey (modestmickey), Saturday, 15 April 2006 15:30 (twenty years ago)

lyrics here.

the album's a marvel.

sean gramophone (Sean M), Saturday, 15 April 2006 15:37 (twenty years ago)

ISN'T EVERY SNES AND NES FINAL FANTASY LESS GAY? ALSO FINAL FANTASY 6 IS HUGELY GAY THANKS TO KEFKA LAFFING

Fight the Real Enemy -- Tasti D-Lite (ex machina), Saturday, 15 April 2006 15:42 (twenty years ago)

http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/features/artistprofiles/f/final-fantasy/

The name comes from the video game, which Pallett admits he doesn't have the patience to play. "I like the idea of it, this big gay thing," he says, citing his interest in Japanese culture and literature.

Curt1s St3ph3ns, Saturday, 15 April 2006 17:19 (twenty years ago)

You can see how "doesn't have the patience to play" made me think "has never played"! But of course I shouldn't trust the reporter over yr actual words.

Curt1s St3ph3ns, Saturday, 15 April 2006 17:21 (twenty years ago)

final fantasy vii is absolutely, supremely gay. cloud is a tortured homo, hiding his true feelings by pretending to be conflicted between tifa and aeris. then aeris dies and he can spend the rest of his life "never getting over her" when really, he's having a hard time actually killing his tortured homo crush. the final scenes of final fantasy vii could've been taken from a mishima novel.

oh man, FF7 gives me the most fucked-up dreams EVER, regardless of how long i play it.

mts (theoreticalgirl), Saturday, 15 April 2006 18:52 (twenty years ago)

owen rules

J Plowright (J Plowright), Saturday, 15 April 2006 22:49 (twenty years ago)

Yes, Kefka is a megalomaniacal homo who desires to take over the world by toying with the Eternal Statues. The game is decidedly not gay because your mission is to destroy him, making the world safe for Locke and Terra to repopulate a race of demi-Espers.

"He Poos Clouds" is a preposterous, over-the-top statement of devotion, much like "I Am So In Fucking Love With Him" or "He's A Prince". The presence of "poo" in the title is meant to defuse the potential seriousness associated with an album of string quartet music. A lovely side effect: half-assed listeners are weeded out.

Anyway, this isn't meant to be a thread about me me me but I read this board a lot and felt I should defend myself.

Owen Pallett (Owen Pallett), Saturday, 15 April 2006 23:11 (twenty years ago)

i am a big fan of your music owen i notice you seem to have some similar lyrical motifs to kingmaker and S*M*A*S*H i.e. defusing statements of devotion with comedy. is this intentional are you a fan of many nwonw bands?

thank you

dec

Dec, Saturday, 15 April 2006 23:25 (twenty years ago)

http://zanyvg.overclocked.org/finalfantasy7/ff7-hahahaha.jpg

a.b. (alanbanana), Saturday, 15 April 2006 23:36 (twenty years ago)

http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/1351/ff7hahahaha6pl.jpg

a.b. (alanbanana), Saturday, 15 April 2006 23:38 (twenty years ago)

Anyway, this isn't meant to be a thread about me me me but I read this board a lot and felt I should defend myself.

-- Owen Pallett (opallet...) (webmail), April 15th, 2006. (Owen Pallett)

Trust me, not a good idea.

I saw your show with the Arcade Fire in Asheville, NC. It was very nice.

Mickey (modestmickey), Sunday, 16 April 2006 03:50 (twenty years ago)

i loved the first album, even though it was a bit long. can't wait to hear this new one. the cover sure is sweet as fuck.

http://rateyourmusic.com/album_images/o473805.jpg

Christopher Costello (CGC), Sunday, 16 April 2006 04:15 (twenty years ago)

owen, is it true that stuart maclean is a huge asshole? i can't imagine him not being one.

333333333333 (33333), Sunday, 16 April 2006 06:29 (twenty years ago)

http://www.cbc.ca/vinylcafe/images/stuart_stool.jpg

"dave and morley quickly, yet surreptitiously, crossed the street as a gaggle of racially mixed teenagers approached, chatting loudly in a language absolutely incomprehensible to them. dave shook his head ruefully and mused aloud, 'this neighborhood has sure changed.'"

333333333333 (33333), Sunday, 16 April 2006 06:34 (twenty years ago)

You don't have to defend yourself, Owen; your music's good enough to stand on its own against the jaded forces of snarkness

Roque Strew (RoqueStrew), Sunday, 16 April 2006 09:44 (twenty years ago)

Hi Owen!

are you still in for the Enya tribute comp? It is happening! This fall!

Kevin Erickson, Monday, 17 April 2006 00:18 (twenty years ago)

The internet sure does wonders for bringing out the inner complete asshole in everybody. It sure is easy to be a prick when there's a link that says Logout.

Mickey (modestmickey), Monday, 17 April 2006 03:00 (twenty years ago)

I mean, it is what it is and I don't really think I'm capable of judging the music. But "He Poos Clouds" really is the worst name for an album/song or ever.

trees (treesessplode), Monday, 17 April 2006 03:10 (twenty years ago)

A lovely side effect: half-assed listeners are weeded out.

Consider me weededed

Whiney G. Weingarten (whineyg), Monday, 17 April 2006 05:56 (twenty years ago)

Me too.

Melissa W (Melissa W), Monday, 17 April 2006 06:04 (twenty years ago)

Oh jesus christ, guys - can't you see the gentle silliness and wit in the title? as if you're not going to listen to the record because of it! you're both posters i respect a lot.

sean gramophone (Sean M), Monday, 17 April 2006 08:11 (twenty years ago)

I gotta admit, I heard a song by this guy on last.fm last night and really liked it - and up til then would have assumed with a title like that it was some weirdass pisstake novelty act tbh.

Trayce (trayce), Monday, 17 April 2006 08:14 (twenty years ago)

"Oh jesus christ, guys - can't you see the gentle silliness and wit in the title?"

No.

Owen, please name your record something else, for your (and your label's) sake. Because while a lot of people here will tell you that they will listen to your record in spite of it, note that they have not promised to buy it. "He Poos Clouds" is a title that is going to cost you some money. As Trayce points out, a lot of casual browsers are going to pass right over your record because they're going to think your the indie Bloodhound Gang or something.

Plus, are you really going to want to look back twenty years from now and see that you have an album called "He Poos Clouds" in your ouvre? (Maybe you will, I dunno...but this is something to consider.)

M. Biondi (M. Biondi), Monday, 17 April 2006 10:58 (twenty years ago)

Why are they fighting behind a pair of 1980s blinds?

Sadly, he will be the next Alexis Petridish. (Dom Passantino), Monday, 18 September 2006 22:38 (nineteen years ago)

I can't be bothered to read this whole thread.

You really should, it's comedy gold.

So has Owen filed his hostile takeover bid yet? Are the ILM poison pill clauses still in effect?

Edward III (edward iii), Tuesday, 19 September 2006 14:12 (nineteen years ago)

Congratulations Owen!

Elliot (Elliot), Tuesday, 19 September 2006 16:48 (nineteen years ago)

Bump

Dare Of The Hog (Bimble...), Sunday, 24 September 2006 08:18 (nineteen years ago)

"It's about the play in defusing a high-concept album of string quartet music with a word that kids find really funny. "

Insufferably twee. "Look, I'm ironically cute, OK? This is non-confrontational, and you don't have to worry about it being smart or challenging... Or do you?"
What rankled me was the cleverness for cleverness' sake.
But I think I may be the only ILXor who listened to the album and thought "Eh... It's OK..."

Honestly, what will probably happen is that I'll ignore it for another six months or so (long enough to make sure it doesn't end up on my year list) and then suddenly fall in love with it.

js (honestengine), Sunday, 24 September 2006 18:10 (nineteen years ago)

Would we seriously be spending this long on the title if it had been, say, His Shit Don't Stink (which He Poos Clouds is, in my opinion, a rather pretty variation on)?

nabisco (nabisco), Sunday, 24 September 2006 19:20 (nineteen years ago)

maybe not but that's a very different title (though an equally awful one).

jed_ (jed), Sunday, 24 September 2006 19:32 (nineteen years ago)

nabisco, c'mon, there's nothing "pretty" about the title. And this thread just corroborates my opinion that the title is so horrible that it makes the discussion of the music secondary by default, which is a shame, since I still think this is a great album.

"This Lamb Sells Condos" is still brilliant.

Turangalila (Salvador), Sunday, 24 September 2006 21:03 (nineteen years ago)

one year passes...

http://www.snowboard.org.vt.edu/Images/TheHunt/Christina%20Hicks/4%20Poop.jpg

elan, Sunday, 25 November 2007 03:44 (eighteen years ago)

thats is some cloudy pooing write there

CaptainLorax, Sunday, 25 November 2007 04:54 (eighteen years ago)

But does it hold up since 19 months ago?

Cunga, Sunday, 25 November 2007 04:57 (eighteen years ago)

seven months pass...

This album is still brilliant. And he's doing string arrangements for the Box!?!?!

Tape Store, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 19:40 (seventeen years ago)

About a month or two I went through a phase of listening to this album all the time.

jaymc, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 19:41 (seventeen years ago)

needs more drumming

St3ve Go1db3rg, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 20:35 (seventeen years ago)

needs a different title and 74 minutes of silence added at the start of the CD.

caek, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 20:48 (seventeen years ago)

^^^

GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 21:42 (seventeen years ago)

More percussion would be good. Is it track 7 or 8 that has some? It sounds amazing. Still a very, very good record. Has Owen been around lately? Is anything new on the cards?

Scik Mouthy, Friday, 11 July 2008 09:19 (seventeen years ago)

it's a great album

the next grozart, Friday, 11 July 2008 09:56 (seventeen years ago)

This is £6 on Amazon, think I'll give it a go.

nate woolls, Friday, 11 July 2008 10:05 (seventeen years ago)

Scoring, mostly. For other people. I don't think I'm getting much better at it, but I'm definitely getting faster.

Owen Pallett, Saturday, 12 July 2008 01:29 (seventeen years ago)

one year passes...

Saw Final Fantasy opening last night for the Mountain Goats. This isn't the kind of thing I like but I was surprised to find I like it. Mostly: the booming plucks, the way OP opens his eyes wide when he sings. He appears to be a David Lynch character of some kind. He was also terrific backing up JD on"Going to Bristol."

Guayaquil (eephus!), Sunday, 8 November 2009 02:35 (sixteen years ago)

I detest people who say "poo".

― Brooker Buckingham (Brooker B), Saturday, 15 April 2006 00:12 Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

:'(

Colonel Poo, Sunday, 8 November 2009 02:38 (sixteen years ago)

yeah this dude was fantastic

someone has done something terrible OH NO (jjjusten), Sunday, 8 November 2009 05:55 (sixteen years ago)

three weeks pass...

bordering on transformative, tbh

I had no idea he had so much madrigal influence in his music, it's fucking astonishing shit (also mad respect to singing and playing the violin at the same time)

lift this towel, its just a nipple (HI DERE), Monday, 30 November 2009 18:40 (sixteen years ago)

yeah the new one is WONDERFUL

sean gramophone, Monday, 30 November 2009 19:00 (sixteen years ago)

xp - I was a little surprised to see him on the credits of New Moon the other day.

Team Alice!

Officer Pupp, Monday, 30 November 2009 19:17 (sixteen years ago)

3. Nobody who listens to it will ever again entertain thoughts of suicide.

I have to say, I'm sold.

mascara and ties (Abbott), Monday, 30 November 2009 19:56 (sixteen years ago)

Wait, Final Fantasy dude played on New Moon? 'Cause Kaki King played on the first Twilight movie -- what is this insidious Twilight/tMG-opener connection?

I saw FF at the Portland show a few weeks ago, and it was just really compelling from start to finish, not a weak moment. I downloaded the two albums he has up on eMusic, but as it stands now I've ignored the majority of both and just played the shit out of "This the Dream of Win and Regine."

Also, I remember taking a mildly anti-poo stance when this thread first started but the intervening years have mellowed this.

they aren't werewolves until they hit werewolf puberty (reddening), Tuesday, 1 December 2009 02:05 (sixteen years ago)

Wait, Final Fantasy dude played on New Moon? 'Cause Kaki King played on the first Twilight movie -- what is this insidious Twilight/tMG-opener connection?

it's the "drive JD nuts because all his peers get soundtrack work while JD tours himself into advanced states of mental & physical illness" syndrome & it's all the rage

a full circle lol (J0hn D.), Tuesday, 1 December 2009 02:40 (sixteen years ago)

/whine

a full circle lol (J0hn D.), Tuesday, 1 December 2009 02:41 (sixteen years ago)

damn, tried to close tag but am still whining

a full circle lol (J0hn D.), Tuesday, 1 December 2009 02:45 (sixteen years ago)

biggest mistake the folks who compile those "best music writing" books ever made was not putting this thread in the 2006 edition.

brooklyn we go ham (samosa gibreel), Tuesday, 1 December 2009 02:45 (sixteen years ago)

i take it the new album has leaked?

brooklyn we go ham (samosa gibreel), Tuesday, 1 December 2009 02:47 (sixteen years ago)

No, we all went to the Mountain Goats show and were blown away by FF

lift this towel, its just a nipple (HI DERE), Tuesday, 1 December 2009 03:06 (sixteen years ago)

well there are still two more Twilight movies left, i bet Summit would welcome some fresh ideas re: their upcoming "chew a vampire baby out of your uterus" suite.

xpost

they aren't werewolves until they hit werewolf puberty (reddening), Tuesday, 1 December 2009 03:07 (sixteen years ago)

after the show i went out and bought he poos clouds and :-o

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 1 December 2009 04:21 (sixteen years ago)

Sure you're not thinking of The Box?

And thanks for the props, this has been the best tour ever, even if J0hn still takes issue with my album titling (although you won't hear me contesting "Yam, King Of Crops" any time soon.)

Tourtière (Ówen P.), Tuesday, 1 December 2009 04:24 (sixteen years ago)

Is this claim about suicide accurate: y/n

mascara and ties (Abbott), Tuesday, 1 December 2009 04:33 (sixteen years ago)

painful memories...

a dimension that can only be accessed through self-immolation (contenderizer), Tuesday, 1 December 2009 04:52 (sixteen years ago)

not about suicide (which this record does not prevent the thinking about of), just the weirdness of old threads

a dimension that can only be accessed through self-immolation (contenderizer), Tuesday, 1 December 2009 04:53 (sixteen years ago)

I stand by my yams

a full circle lol (J0hn D.), Tuesday, 1 December 2009 13:00 (sixteen years ago)

by Yammy Wynette

The bugger in the short sleeves (NickB), Tuesday, 1 December 2009 13:26 (sixteen years ago)

"lewis takes action" tweaks my john cale sweet spot

kamerad, Wednesday, 2 December 2009 05:34 (sixteen years ago)

Ah, it must have been a trailer for The Box I saw before New Moon.

Let all urban myths about Owen being on New Moon cease here pls.

Officer Pupp, Thursday, 3 December 2009 12:46 (sixteen years ago)

hey owen why is heartland taking so long to come out

thomp, Thursday, 3 December 2009 12:48 (sixteen years ago)

The thing I like the most about this album is how it sounds like a deranged lost Sondheim score.

lololol okay I just searched the thread to see if anyone else had made that reference and um wow at some of the discourse upthread, so to pull in another reference my uncle commented on a Facebook status update where I mentioned FF and said a) he'd downloaded all of the albums and liked them a lot, so there's another black person in the "thumbs-up" column, and b) the music reminded him a lot of Don Sebesky.

Huckabee Jesus lifeline (HI DERE), Thursday, 3 December 2009 18:36 (sixteen years ago)

ten months pass...

holy shit

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tFXJKp-NgR8&feature=related

"SEX" drought, 2 wisks (zorn_bond.mp3), Sunday, 24 October 2010 00:32 (fifteen years ago)

Enjoyed that.

EveningStar (Sund4r), Sunday, 24 October 2010 03:13 (fifteen years ago)

Also, this thread is absurd.

EveningStar (Sund4r), Sunday, 24 October 2010 03:16 (fifteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NB05Lt3VbNg

jumpskins, Sunday, 24 October 2010 14:44 (fifteen years ago)


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