Leonard Cohen - SuzanneBeatles - Norwegian Wood
― Mr. Silverback (Mr. Silverback), Sunday, 23 April 2006 06:06 (twenty years ago)
― even cathy berberian's nose (Jody Beth Rosen), Sunday, 23 April 2006 06:14 (twenty years ago)
― Jack Battery-Pack (Jack Battery-Pack), Sunday, 23 April 2006 06:38 (twenty years ago)
― travis randy (travis randy), Sunday, 23 April 2006 06:39 (twenty years ago)
― brittle-lemon (brittle-lemon), Sunday, 23 April 2006 08:40 (twenty years ago)
― Swordfishtrombones, Sunday, 23 April 2006 08:44 (twenty years ago)
― The Lex (The Lex), Sunday, 23 April 2006 08:53 (twenty years ago)
― Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Sunday, 23 April 2006 09:03 (twenty years ago)
― Dr Benway (dr benway), Sunday, 23 April 2006 09:05 (twenty years ago)
― Eric Harvey (eric marathonpacks), Sunday, 23 April 2006 09:34 (twenty years ago)
C90 - Songs about wanting to leave the shagging part of a relationship until later
― Lotta Continua (Damian), Sunday, 23 April 2006 12:02 (twenty years ago)
― TAO (daggerlee), Sunday, 23 April 2006 14:31 (twenty years ago)
― fact checking cuz (fcc), Sunday, 23 April 2006 14:37 (twenty years ago)
― kornrulez6969 (TCBeing), Sunday, 23 April 2006 14:41 (twenty years ago)
once she woke with untamed lover's face between her legsnow he's cooled and stifledand it's she who has to beg
― Mark (MarkR), Sunday, 23 April 2006 14:43 (twenty years ago)
― Lotta Continua (Damian), Sunday, 23 April 2006 14:54 (twenty years ago)
― antexit (antexit), Sunday, 23 April 2006 14:55 (twenty years ago)
― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Sunday, 23 April 2006 14:59 (twenty years ago)
― Zwan (miccio), Sunday, 23 April 2006 15:02 (twenty years ago)
Chairmen of the Board, "Give Me Just a Little More Time"
Terence Trent D'Arby, "Billy Don't Fall (In Love With Me)"
― Joseph McCombs (Joseph McCombs), Sunday, 23 April 2006 15:50 (twenty years ago)
― -+-++-+-++, Sunday, 23 April 2006 15:54 (twenty years ago)
― Gigabyte Picnic, Sunday, 23 April 2006 20:15 (twenty years ago)
― imbidimts, Sunday, 23 April 2006 20:28 (twenty years ago)
― Brian G, Sunday, 23 April 2006 20:58 (twenty years ago)
but isn't ric "skeletor" ocasek still getting paulina's punani?!?
― Eisbär (llamasfur), Sunday, 23 April 2006 21:01 (twenty years ago)
― even cathy berberian's nose (Jody Beth Rosen), Sunday, 23 April 2006 21:20 (twenty years ago)
The hell? This is a song about a guy trying to have sex and getting turned down.
― Doctor Casino (Doctor Casino), Sunday, 23 April 2006 22:24 (twenty years ago)
"Pretty Girls Make Graves" probably works, doesn't it?
― Sundar (sundar), Sunday, 23 April 2006 22:35 (twenty years ago)
― dog latin (dog latin), Sunday, 23 April 2006 22:57 (twenty years ago)
― Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Sunday, 23 April 2006 23:07 (twenty years ago)
― o. nate (onate), Sunday, 23 April 2006 23:34 (twenty years ago)
(granted, it's only because they found what the ladies looked like outside the strobelite.)
― DOQQUN (donut), Monday, 24 April 2006 00:53 (twenty years ago)
― OBVS (blunt), Monday, 24 April 2006 01:14 (twenty years ago)
― Mike McG, Monday, 24 April 2006 01:32 (twenty years ago)
-- Doctor Casino (agode...), April 23rd, 2006.
"We talked until two and then she said, it’s time for bed.She told me she worked in the morning and started to laugh.I told her I didn’t and crawled off to sleep in the bath."
? sleeping in the bath instead of in her bed is a funny way to try and seduce her...
― Mr. Silverback (Mr. Silverback), Monday, 24 April 2006 01:52 (twenty years ago)
― Douglas (Douglas), Monday, 24 April 2006 02:53 (twenty years ago)
― Sundar (sundar), Monday, 24 April 2006 03:30 (twenty years ago)
― Sundar (sundar), Monday, 24 April 2006 03:31 (twenty years ago)
― O-Keigh (O-Keigh), Monday, 24 April 2006 04:03 (twenty years ago)
And hey, howbout one from the female perspective; namely, Toni Basil's "Mickey"
― Myonga Von Bontee (Myonga Von Bontee), Monday, 24 April 2006 04:45 (twenty years ago)
I always figured Lennon was letting the listener work out the unspoken information in the conversation - the guy's making a pass, his hopes are really up after the girl says "It's time for bed..." but then the girl changes the subject to, well, I guess I've got to work in the morning and just sort of laughs in his face. Sensing his defeat the guy makes no further efforts to get into her room and accepts her horrid proposal that he sleep in the bathtub. (Incidentally - I have never understood sleeping in bathtubs when there is normal floor available. Can anyone shed some light on this?) To me this narrative fits with the similar "guy's gonna score with girl - ohnowait!" punchline song that McCartney was cooking up at the same time - "Drive My Car." John is much more actively trying to follow Dylan's lead (and cover up the actual affair on which the song was based) so he's exceedingly vague about it.
OTOH, your interpretation is arguably even more interesting, and sort of fits in John's general lineage of jealous, macho, anti-girl songs running from "You Can't Do That" through "Sexy Sadie" - here he scripts himself a mod ladyfriend who opens her bedroom to him, only to be spurned coldly by the man who would rather sleep in a bathtub than get it on with this chick. Fascinating - but I'm not convinced it's what John was actually going for, and I'm pretty sure interviews, etc., would back that up.
― Doctor Casino (Doctor Casino), Monday, 24 April 2006 04:57 (twenty years ago)
― dog latin (dog latin), Monday, 24 April 2006 06:09 (twenty years ago)
― Myonga Von Bontee (Myonga Von Bontee), Monday, 24 April 2006 06:32 (twenty years ago)
― dog latin (dog latin), Monday, 24 April 2006 06:36 (twenty years ago)
― dave q (listerine), Monday, 24 April 2006 07:19 (twenty years ago)
I hear it in the sense of "being had" or conned.
― Lotta Continua (Damian), Monday, 24 April 2006 09:56 (twenty years ago)
Grateful Dead, "Scarlet Begonias"
Jackson Five, "Stop! The Love You Save May Be Your Own"
Smokey Robinson, "I Second That Emotion" (well, conditionally turning down sex)
There must be hundreds of country songs (none of which I can quite remember just now) in which the male singer turns down some barroom angel because he suddenly remembers his wife/child back home. And an equal number in which the female singer makes clear that she was willing to do ANYTHING to get your love, but nothin' doin'.
― Vornado, Monday, 24 April 2006 12:27 (twenty years ago)
― Uncle Tom (Uncle Tom), Monday, 24 April 2006 12:38 (twenty years ago)
(We're trying to sleep down here...)
― mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 24 April 2006 12:49 (twenty years ago)
― dog latin (dog latin), Monday, 24 April 2006 13:04 (twenty years ago)
― mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 24 April 2006 13:10 (twenty years ago)
did she get off and then turn around and say "night love, i'm knack" so John went to finish himself off in the bathroom?
― dog latin (dog latin), Monday, 24 April 2006 13:18 (twenty years ago)
― mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 24 April 2006 13:19 (twenty years ago)
― koogs (koogs), Monday, 24 April 2006 13:39 (twenty years ago)
Of course it isn't "definitely".
"Trying Too Hard" by Day One. At the end, when he's succesful, he turns the tables on the girl who had previously been rebuffing him.
― David Orton (scarlet), Monday, 24 April 2006 14:55 (twenty years ago)
― Joseph McCombs (Joseph McCombs), Monday, 24 April 2006 15:48 (twenty years ago)
Same here - I just figured Lennon yada-yadaed over the best part, to use a later pop culture reference.
And until it was explained to me otherwise, I always figured the fire was confined to the fireplace.
― mike a, Monday, 24 April 2006 15:52 (twenty years ago)
(kinda)
― Tracey Hand (tracerhand), Monday, 24 April 2006 16:41 (twenty years ago)
― Tracey Hand (tracerhand), Monday, 24 April 2006 16:42 (twenty years ago)
For a second I thought this was being proposed as a "lyric that should have been" for "Norwegian Wood." THAT would solve all this ambiguity once and for all.
She told me she worked in the morning and started to laughSo I pulled her panties down and noticed the bitch had a dick
― Doctor Casino (Doctor Casino), Monday, 24 April 2006 17:51 (twenty years ago)
― mike a, Monday, 24 April 2006 22:19 (twenty years ago)
― Eisbär (llamasfur), Monday, 24 April 2006 23:20 (twenty years ago)
Oi, that should read Mike Oldfield - Family Man. It suits him better too.
― JimD (JimD), Tuesday, 25 April 2006 00:48 (twenty years ago)
Stankin'-ass bitches that need to wash up,don't get mad when I don't wanna fuck,you need soap + water. soap + water.soap + water. soap + water.(x2)water, water, water, water (x4)
― that's so taylrr (ken taylrr), Tuesday, 25 April 2006 01:11 (twenty years ago)
― Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Tuesday, 25 April 2006 02:34 (twenty years ago)
'i've had some girls come up to me and sayit won't take that longjust a quick one up the backone for the ladsand i'm at pains to explaini'm not that type of guyand send the slack jawed bitches on their way'
― derrick (derrick), Tuesday, 25 April 2006 03:12 (twenty years ago)
Yeah I see how the interviews support your interpretation and it makes sense. Although I always interpreted "she once had me" to mean he was stuck in her room trying to get out haha. I always figured the part about not having a chair meaning that she wanted him to sit on the bed so she could seduce him...
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― Mr. Silverback (Mr. Silverback), Tuesday, 25 April 2006 04:30 (twenty years ago)
oh, you could fill this thread w/ long fin killie songs come to think of it!
― Eisbär (llamasfur), Tuesday, 25 April 2006 04:44 (twenty years ago)
― derrick (derrick), Tuesday, 25 April 2006 06:47 (twenty years ago)
― Andrew Beck (klik99), Thursday, 27 April 2006 00:14 (twenty years ago)
― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 27 April 2006 12:32 (twenty years ago)
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Thursday, 27 April 2006 12:54 (twenty years ago)
Is that all the title?
― mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 27 April 2006 12:56 (twenty years ago)
― hank (hank s), Thursday, 27 April 2006 12:59 (twenty years ago)
The love 13 year-old Michael Jackson asked his girlfriend to save may well have consisted of only holding hands and maybe kissing though.
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Thursday, 27 April 2006 13:04 (twenty years ago)
2. "The love 13 year-old Michael Jackson asked his girlfriend to save may well have consisted of only holding hands and maybe kissing though." Yeah, right. Just like in "I Wanna Hold Your Hand".
(Don't you know that sexual intercourse was INVENTED in 1963, between the end of the Chatterly ban and The Beatles' first LP? The kids of Michael's day, myself included, certainly know what "going too far" meant.)
― Vornado, Thursday, 27 April 2006 17:16 (twenty years ago)
― mike a, Monday, 1 May 2006 17:19 (twenty years ago)
― Chairman Doinel (Charles McCain), Monday, 1 May 2006 17:29 (twenty years ago)
― Tracey Hand (tracerhand), Monday, 1 May 2006 17:32 (twenty years ago)
― Rick Massimo (Rick Massimo), Monday, 1 May 2006 17:32 (twenty years ago)
― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Monday, 1 May 2006 17:34 (twenty years ago)
― mike a, Monday, 1 May 2006 18:17 (twenty years ago)
I guess they knew (Michael himself has certainly made sure that the kids he knows these days do ;) ), but the song was written by a bunch of grownup Motown songwriters, who most certainly didn't write about sex when a 13 year-old was supposed to perform the song.
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Tuesday, 2 May 2006 00:25 (twenty years ago)
you know that story about prince hiring 3-5 hookers and bringing them up to his hotel room so he could preach to them about how what they are doing are wrong. It may be a rumor but I would convert and become a Jehovah's witness if it's not.
― andrew b (klik99), Tuesday, 2 May 2006 03:39 (twenty years ago)
― that's so taylrr (ken taylrr), Tuesday, 2 May 2006 03:53 (twenty years ago)
― Charlie Howard (the sphinx), Thursday, 17 August 2006 14:04 (nineteen years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 17 August 2006 14:34 (nineteen years ago)
― todd (todd), Thursday, 17 August 2006 17:19 (nineteen years ago)
― xhuxk (xheddy), Thursday, 17 August 2006 18:08 (nineteen years ago)
― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Thursday, 17 August 2006 18:52 (nineteen years ago)
― dan (dan), Thursday, 17 August 2006 18:53 (nineteen years ago)
― latebloomer (latebloomer), Thursday, 17 August 2006 18:57 (nineteen years ago)
I think I have a bootleg with this version on it.
― musically (musically), Thursday, 17 August 2006 19:00 (nineteen years ago)
― xave (xave), Friday, 18 August 2006 00:11 (nineteen years ago)
― xhuxk (xheddy), Friday, 18 August 2006 00:48 (nineteen years ago)
― dave q (listerine), Friday, 18 August 2006 10:16 (nineteen years ago)
― Dr Benway (dr benway), Friday, 18 August 2006 14:07 (nineteen years ago)
Well my pad is very messyAnd there's whiskers on my chinAnd I'm all hung up on musicAnd I always play to winI ain't got no time for lovin'Cause my time is all used upJust to sit around creatin'All that groovy kind of stuff.I'm a manYes I amAnd I can't helpBut love you soI'm a manYes I amAnd I can't helpBut love you so.
Well if I had my choice of matterI would rather be with catsAll engrossed in mental chatterMoving where our minds are atAnd relating to each otherJust how strong our wills can beI'm resisting all involvementWith each groovy chick we see
Well I'm a manYes I amAnd I can't helpBut love you soI'm a manYes I amAnd I can't helpBut love you so.
I got to keep my imageWhile suspended from a throneThat looks out upon a kingdomFull of people all unknownWho imagine I'm not humanAnd my heart is made of stoneI never had no problemsAnd my toilet's trimmed with chrome
I'm a manYes I amAnd I can't helpBut love you so.I'm a manYes I amAnd I can't helpBut love you so.
― Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Friday, 18 August 2006 14:14 (nineteen years ago)
― Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Friday, 18 August 2006 14:16 (nineteen years ago)
Meatloaf - I Would Do Anything For Love (But I Won't Do That)Hall And Oates - No Can Do
― beeble (beeble), Friday, 18 August 2006 14:19 (nineteen years ago)
If this counts, then Freda Payne's "Band of Gold" and Elastica's "Stutter" should as well. For that matter, come to think of it, so should "Mickey" by Tony Basil, I guess (oops, just noticed somebody already nominated that one. Whatever, it definitely fits.)
― xhuxk (xheddy), Friday, 18 August 2006 16:51 (nineteen years ago)