Bands that are touted as influential but nobody actually sounded much like them, really

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For a minute there when everyone claimed to like Kiss, scant few of those bands actually sounded like Kiss.

What are some other (better) examples?

― Brian O'Neill (NYCNative), Saturday, 29 April 2006 11:04 (nineteen years ago)

The Fall
Cocteau Twins

― rizzx (Rizz), Saturday, 29 April 2006 11:15 (nineteen years ago)

Yello. Have they ever influenced anyone besides Fluke?

― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Saturday, 29 April 2006 11:23 (nineteen years ago)

Btw. Cocteau Twins have influenced Björk, Bel Canto and The Knife, to name but a few.

― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Saturday, 29 April 2006 11:23 (nineteen years ago)

but nobody actually sounded much like them, really

― rizzx (Rizz), Saturday, 29 April 2006 11:25 (nineteen years ago)

I would say, as far as vocal style goes, all of the mentioned acts' singers do sound a lot like Liz Frazer.

― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Saturday, 29 April 2006 11:27 (nineteen years ago)

ulrich schnauss sounds like CT sonics

― ed horrox (girl_afraid), Saturday, 29 April 2006 12:24 (nineteen years ago)

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― fritada, Saturday, 29 April 2006 12:25 (nineteen years ago)

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― fritada, Saturday, 29 April 2006 12:26 (nineteen years ago)

"Yello. Have they ever influenced anyone besides Fluke?"

They have INFLUENCED tons of people, but, yeah, not too many people have ever sounded like them.

― scott seward (scott seward), Saturday, 29 April 2006 12:46 (nineteen years ago)

In the last Jeans Team album there's a track that sounds exactly like Yello ("Königin", wich is a remake of Yello's "How, How (The Pre Mix)" (wich was in "The Neverending Story III" Soundtrack!)). Other than that, it's hard to find tracks that sounds like Yello, but I agree they have had some influence -not like that of, say, Kraftwerk, but still...

― Diego Valladolid (dvalladt), Saturday, 29 April 2006 13:22 (nineteen years ago)

― kornrulez6969 (TCBeing), Saturday, 29 April 2006 13:31 (nineteen years ago)

Pulp.

― joseph cotten (joseph cotten), Saturday, 29 April 2006 13:31 (nineteen years ago)

Television

― A|ex P@reene (Pareene), Saturday, 29 April 2006 16:02 (nineteen years ago)

joy division. maybe people sound like them, but i'm sick of every single band that likes indie rock saying that they're heavily influenced by joy division.

― Blue Filters (Gilkannon), Saturday, 29 April 2006 16:04 (nineteen years ago)

"joy division. maybe people sound like them, but i'm sick of every single band that likes indie rock saying that they're heavily influenced by joy division."

but it could be true! i don't get this at all. i'm heavily influenced by joy division and i sound nothing like them! well, except for when i'm singing ol' man river in the shower.

― scott seward (scott seward), Saturday, 29 April 2006 16:16 (nineteen years ago)

re: Cocteau Twins, I would put Love Spirals Downwards in the CT influence camp. Specifically, the Idylls album.

― van igloo (van smack), Saturday, 29 April 2006 16:21 (nineteen years ago)

Beefheart?

― The Vintner's Lipogram (OleM), Saturday, 29 April 2006 16:31 (nineteen years ago)

You can be influenced by someone yet not sound like them. The influence may be just be the fcat that you picked up the guitar or maybe the themes of your songs or maybe a way to see things, not necessary interpret them.

― jesse james, Saturday, 29 April 2006 21:30 (nineteen years ago)

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Besides gross, what is this supposed to be? (just asking)

― party hammer, Saturday, 29 April 2006 21:57 (nineteen years ago)

Byrds, maybe. Rickenbacker or arpeggios w/ clean tube amp tone =/ Byrds

― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Saturday, 29 April 2006 22:00 (nineteen years ago)

Tom Petty, Crowded House and R.E.M. have all picked up a lot from Byrds musically.

― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Saturday, 29 April 2006 22:11 (nineteen years ago)

I don't know, Geir. The only Byrds element I really hear in Tom Petty or R.E.M. is Rickenbacker guitar and arpeggios. But the Byrds had a very particular style. Velvet Underground were probably more of a post-Byrds band than Petty or R.E.M.

― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Saturday, 29 April 2006 22:16 (nineteen years ago)

Television

Buy yourself a Strokes album and feel stupid.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 29 April 2006 22:19 (nineteen years ago)

The Strokes sound nothing like Television to me.

― Feeling Stupid, Saturday, 29 April 2006 22:24 (nineteen years ago)

I haven't noticed it either, though I've only heard songs on the radio and once they were listening to an album when I was in a record store. You know what I have noticed, though? THAT HORRIBLE *SPY RIFF* PLAYED ON THE BASS GUITAR IN THEIR NEW SONG "JUICEBOX."

― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Saturday, 29 April 2006 22:26 (nineteen years ago)

They both come across as being too smug?

― Cunga (Cunga), Saturday, 29 April 2006 22:27 (nineteen years ago)

The Fall

Buy that new Art Brut album and feel stupid.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 29 April 2006 22:29 (nineteen years ago)

CAN

― strom (strom), Saturday, 29 April 2006 22:29 (nineteen years ago)

frank zappa

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Saturday, 29 April 2006 22:32 (nineteen years ago)

Except for Zoogz Rift, though.

― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Saturday, 29 April 2006 22:32 (nineteen years ago)

Zappa's more about sensibility than sound, though. No Zappa = no Residents.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 29 April 2006 22:33 (nineteen years ago)

I'm actually down with the Fall. Art Brut's shouty vocalist over generic post-punk guitar music doesn't really sound that much like the Fall. As for Can, I think one of the bands that had the most in common with them was ... the Fall! Circa Slates or so, anyway.

― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Saturday, 29 April 2006 22:36 (nineteen years ago)

Richie Hawtin, but particularly his Plastikman stuff.

Prince? (unless all the acts he wrote songs for counts as "sounding like Prince")

― NoTimeBeforeTime (Barry Bruner), Saturday, 29 April 2006 22:36 (nineteen years ago)

listen to one READY FOR THE WORLD!

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Saturday, 29 April 2006 22:37 (nineteen years ago)

Thin White Rope did a reasonably faithful cover of "Yoo Doo Right".

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 29 April 2006 22:39 (nineteen years ago)

listen to one READY FOR THE WORLD!

Oh, right. I forgot about Cameo too. What about post-1988? I guess bands like Color Me Badd and Bel Biv Devoe had a lot of Prince in their sound too.

― NoTimeBeforeTime (Barry Bruner), Saturday, 29 April 2006 22:48 (nineteen years ago)

Waits has his Beefheart moments ... and US Maple less directly.

― ed horrox (girl_afraid), Saturday, 29 April 2006 22:58 (nineteen years ago)

No Zappa = no Residents.
I heard someone say that with no Elvis there would be no modern music as we know it.
Like your statement, it is pure dreck.
Think about it and feel stupid.

― Bored with Russia, Saturday, 29 April 2006 23:56 (nineteen years ago)

Without Prince, no Jimmy Jam & Terry Lewis, and accordingly no New Jack Swing or contemporary R&B.

Too bad what he influenced had to turn out worse and worse though.

― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Sunday, 30 April 2006 00:08 (nineteen years ago)

Minutemen

― drench, Sunday, 30 April 2006 00:28 (nineteen years ago)

Not true. My band totally sounds like the Minutemen...only better.

― M. Biondi (M. Biondi), Sunday, 30 April 2006 00:33 (nineteen years ago)

[porn]

More than meets the eye.

― My Kill Jaxon, Sunday, 30 April 2006 00:53 (nineteen years ago)

Minutemen

The worst band I ever saw live. The worst SST band evah!

It is merciful their career was a short one.

― Loudon Wainwright, Tuesday, 2 May 2006 04:26 (nineteen years ago)

You are dumb.

― John Justen (johnjusten), Tuesday, 2 May 2006 05:36 (nineteen years ago)

Re Cocteau Twins - "Spooky" by Lush is close enough to discount them from this thread IMO.

― Colonel Poo (Colonel Poo), Tuesday, 2 May 2006 07:23 (nineteen years ago)

Art Brut sound nothing like the Fall. They sound a little like Yummy Fur, which depresses me.

― S- (sgh), Tuesday, 2 May 2006 08:05 (nineteen years ago)

queen

― dog latin (dog latin), Tuesday, 2 May 2006 08:58 (nineteen years ago)

No Zappa = no Residents.
I heard someone say that with no Elvis there would be no modern music as we know it.
Like your statement, it is pure dreck.
Think about it and feel stupid.
-- Bored with Russia

Both statements are correct.

― Myonga Von Bontee (Myonga Von Bontee), Tuesday, 2 May 2006 09:16 (nineteen years ago)

The Fall doesn't work, if only for a few songs on Pavement's debut.

― Mark (MarkR), Tuesday, 2 May 2006 09:29 (nineteen years ago)

Can is the best one so far

― You'll Never Put a Better Bit of Butter On Your Knife (Dada), Tuesday, 2 May 2006 09:42 (nineteen years ago)

I'm sure there were loads of bands in the 80s that sounded like the Fall. I Ludicrous, early Wolfhounds...

And is it me or does that horrible 'Love Generation' song sound like 'Why Are People Grudgeful'?

― NickB (NickB), Tuesday, 2 May 2006 09:49 (nineteen years ago)

I'm sure there were loads of bands in the 80s that sounded like the Fall.

Thousands of 'em

― You'll Never Put a Better Bit of Butter On Your Knife (Dada), Tuesday, 2 May 2006 09:52 (nineteen years ago)

Re Cocteau Twins - "Spooky" by Lush is close enough to discount them from this thread IMO.

I'm not so sure. The textures are quite similair dut to Gutherie's production, but the tunes, structures, singing and attitude are completely different.

― Chewshabadoo (Chewshabadoo), Tuesday, 2 May 2006 10:22 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah I was gonna say that one possibly doesnt count seeing as Guthrie produced it.

― Trayce (trayce), Tuesday, 2 May 2006 10:50 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, true.

― Colonel Poo (Colonel Poo), Tuesday, 2 May 2006 10:53 (nineteen years ago)

Pixies and Sonic Youth partly sounded a bit like The Fall, although the inspiration for their "speak-singing" probably came directly from Velvet Underground rather than from The Fall.

― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Tuesday, 2 May 2006 10:57 (nineteen years ago)

I could have sworn it came directly from Arnie Schoenberg

― You'll Never Put a Better Bit of Butter On Your Knife (Dada), Tuesday, 2 May 2006 11:00 (nineteen years ago)

I think the inspiration for their speak-singing came from not being able to sing.

― There's a Guy Works Down the Chip Shop Swears He's Elvish (noodle vague), Tuesday, 2 May 2006 11:07 (nineteen years ago)

But, happily, being able to speak

― You'll Never Put a Better Bit of Butter On Your Knife (Dada), Tuesday, 2 May 2006 11:08 (nineteen years ago)

'cept for Lee Renaldo

― There's a Guy Works Down the Chip Shop Swears He's Elvish (noodle vague), Tuesday, 2 May 2006 11:09 (nineteen years ago)

Sonic Youth's John Peel session of Fall covers sounded a lot like the Fall. Astonishing but true.

― NickB (NickB), Tuesday, 2 May 2006 11:11 (nineteen years ago)

But not as much as Pavement's Peel Sessions of Pavement songs.

― There's a Guy Works Down the Chip Shop Swears He's Elvish (noodle vague), Tuesday, 2 May 2006 11:13 (nineteen years ago)

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