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Ok. so ages ago i said i would try and code up some sort of critic similarity thing for pazz & jop. glenn sent me the raw datafiles and i had some time today to mess around in perl. below are the results. the more red in a color, the more similar a critic is to others in their neighborhood. the more blue in a color, the higher a critic is in glenn's critical rankings thing that gagues a critic's overall similarity to consensus.

the algorithm is a very crude sort of "smart map" neural network/genetic algorithm based loosely on a Kohnen self organizing map. i added a bit of "gravity" that will tend slightly to pull critics closer to overall consensus slightly downwards.

this is pretty ugly still in lots of ways -- inefficent, not as "trained" as it could be, could use a better way to "seed" conditions, handles borders poorly, etc.

but not bad for a few hours messing around. if folks are interested i could always add more later.

― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Monday, 1 May 2006 01:07 (nineteen years ago)

Kelley, Trevor Spitz, Will Mack, Kimberly Montgomery, James Herrington, Chris Williams, K. Leander Hickey, Matt Klosterman, Chuck Cepeda, Raquel Baraka, Rhonda Hogan, Nathan Silver, Kate
Bosler, Shawn Bratton, David Ubl, Sam Suarez, Jessica Stephenson, Kye Wallen, Doug Jagernauth, Kevin Wiederhorn, Jon Keyes, J. Edward Bemis, Alec Hanley Einhart, Nancy Chun, Gary Fairall, Jer Hiatt, Brian
Paiva, Derek Graff, Gary Lipton, Michael Considine, J.D. Pytlik, Mark Koslow, Jessica Smucker, Tom Strickler, Yancey George, Nelson Wilmoth, Charlie Mariani, Anthony Fox Mayshark, Jesse
Vineyard, Jennifer Timmermann, Josh Eddy, Chuck McDonnell, Evelyn Cromelin, Richard Chinen, Nate Hackney, Luke Jackson, Jeff John, Kevin Ruttenberg, Jay Strachota, Dan Brookins, Troy Friskics-Warren, Bill Wright, Rickey Jetson, Kat Sylvester, Nick
White, Armond Daly, Sean Rosen, Jody Molanphy, Chris Cimicata, Mike Portnoy, Sean Perez, Rodrigo Chang, Jeff Hoard, Christian Cummings, Raymond Ross, Michael Goldfein, Josh Sheffield, Rob Matos, Michaelangelo Chen, Kris Tremayne, Jim Hirsch, Marc Valania, Jonathan Pratt, Tim Cuda, Heidi Siegmund
Patel, Joseph Davidson, Char Hilburn, Robert Golianopoulos, Thomas Berry, Max Chonin, Neva Pareles, Jon Nolan, Robert Fisher, Trevor Ross, Alex Willett, Mark Overeem, Phillip Gaar, Gillian G. Smith, Steve Weiner, Jonah Edwards, Gavin Pullen, Doug Baltin, Steve Lechner, Ernesto Grossweiner, Bob
Prince, David J. Chean, Steven Powers, Ann Patrin, Nate Deusner, Stephen M. Kiviat, Steve Huston, Johnny Ray Byrom, Cory Begrand, Adrien Uhelszki, Jaan Station, Laurence Juzwiak, Richard Warren, Jamin Cheyney, Tom Murray, Noel MacDonald, Cameron Vincentelli, Elisabeth Langhoff, Josh Nash, Andrew Pettigrew, Jason Fine, M.J. George-Warren, Holly Goldberg, Emily Raftery, Brian M. Ryan, Matt Aaron, Charles
Legaspi, Althea Mudrian, Albert Varga, George Neal, Chris Weingarten, Christopher R. Mills, Fred Zimmerman, Shannon Marino, Nick Caligiuri, Jim Gehr, Richard Kun, Josh Pedersen, Erik Browne, David Phillips, Andy Davidson, Josh DeLuca, Dan Kellman, Andy Simon, Leslie Endelman, Michael Graham, Renee Kenner, Rob Fleming, Colin Howe, Sean Tzou, Janet Crazy Horse, Kandia King, Daniel Johnston, Maura Seymour, Craig
Shand, Billy Erlewine, Stephen Thomas Finn, Timothy Marinese, Jaclyn Richter, Aaron Pick, Steve Austerlitz, Saul Wolff, Carlo Blackstock, Peter Richardson, Mark Johnson, Dean McLeod, Kembrew Blanco, Alvin Aqua Boogie Hill, Marc Moreau, Kevin Scholz, Erich Diehl, Matt Morgan, Joan Hadis, Diego Choman, Al Smith, Cate Grierson, Tim Frere-Jones, Sasha Emanuelli, Lola Clover, Sterling Randall, Mac Brunner, Rob
Smith, Ryan Hawkins, Kristal Inskeep, Thomas Baker, Soren Tangari, Joe Rayes, Ken Covey, Ethan Agoston, Peter Silva, Joe Tamarkin, Jeff Trakin, Roy Masters, Marc Berman, Stuart Perlah, Jeff Smith, RJ Robicheau, Paul Bayer, Jonah Harding, Cortney Varela, Chuy Fennessey, Sean Dolan, Jon Ganz, Caryn Riegel, Richard Adams, Jason Robinson, Joseph Whitney, Jon
Kilpatrick, Judson Strauss, D. Hurt, Edd Gil de Rubio, Dave Breihan, Tom Sebastian, Matt Babb, Pete Moore, David Terrell, Stephen W. Leger, Dimitry Elias Mnookin, Seth Walls, Richard C. Blashill, Pat Niimi, J. Mosurak, Doug Bessman, Jim Bendix, Trish Carioli, Carly Havranek, Carrie O'Connor, Christopher Ray, Austin L. Shepherd, Julianne O'Neill, Bill Hannaham, James McCabe, Brett Drake, David Froehlich, Lee Hopkins, Tracy
Schieber, Curtis Dubbin, Rob Gemelli, Zoe Mirkin, Steven Mamone, Jordan Lomax, John Sherburne, Philip Hunter, James Kaufman, Spencer Dayal, Geeta Cohen, Howard Parks, Andrew Zaleski, Annie Leibrock, Rachel May, Thomas Selah, Makkada B. Winters, Pamela Murray Clifford, Dave Pelusi, Mike Lowe, Jaime Wuelfing, Howard Smith, Craig Hochman, Steve Soto, Alfred Deeds, Michael Baldwin, Chris Vrabel, Jeff Dugan, John
Pastorek, Whitney Daddino, Michael Appleford, Steve Ferguson, Jason Murray, Sonia Cook, Dara Walters, Barry Wener, Ben Thomas, Lindsey Weisbard, Eric Forstneger, Steve Marks, Craig Bream, Jon Macnie, Jim Lemon, Damien Dombal, Ryan Reed, Bobby Buhrmester, Jason Pierson, Pat Sommereyns, Omar Brew-Hammond, Nana Kenward, Erik Garrett, Jonathan Elyse, Nicole Green, Nick
du Browa, Corey Lindquist, Dave Durchholz, Daniel Lavin, Enrique Demby, Eric Block, Brian Ferguson, Dan Gallo, Phil Hermes, Will Leone, Dominique Nelson, Chris Garin, Nina Cunningham, John Riley, Tim Hopper, Jessica Carr, Daphne Dexter, Kerry Buehrer, Jack Perpetua, Matthew Martin, Philip Michel, Sia Caputo, Salvatore St. John, Allen Loerzel, Robert Freeman, Phil Hasty, Katie Harris, Keith Mitchell, Rick Heim, Joe
Azerrad, Michael Sachs, Lloyd Holter, Scott Caloudas, Constantine Herzog, Kenny Powers, Devon Wilder, Matthew Stewart, Allison Rodgers, Lissa Townsend Linden, Amy Bruner, Barry Weidenbaum, Marc Lipp, Dave Bloom, Steve Trieschmann, Werner Simels, Steve Walker, John Bordowitz, Hank Strickman, Andrew Ratcliffe, Joshua Fahiym Tate, Greg Faraone, Chris Orlov, Piotr Evers, Derek Cooper, Kim Mayhew, Malcolm Johnson, Charles Hickman, Christopher Wang, Oliver Shiner, Lewis
Ellison, Tim Thompson, Stephen Vettese, John Hull, Tom Riemenschneider, Chris Campbell, Chuck Hicks, Dylan Greenblatt, Jeff Carlin, Marcello Baty, Chris Stuart, Jonathan Klinge, Steve Stratton, Jeff Harvilla, Rob Romano, Will Price, Carey Switzer, Ken Soults, Franklin Lach, Michael Riley, Liz Gitlin, Lauren Whitman, Andy Horowitz, Steve Harrison, Shane McLeese, Don Fleischmann, Mark Van Vleck, Philip Kellner, Amy Comeau, Paul-Emile
Elsasser, John Battaglia, Andy Orloff, Brian Amorosi, A.D. Jarnow, Jesse Burrell, Jalylah Macias, Chris Rabin, Nathan Toure Reeves, Mosi Capobianco, Ken McNeill, Darrell M. Convey, Kevin R. Meyer, Bill Masley, Ed Nelson, Chris Phipps, Keith Shirley, David Adler, David Kot, Greg Lisle, Andria O'Donnell, Kevin Glowatsky, Pete Robertson, Jessica Maerz, Melissa Gamboa, Glenn Ruggieri, Melissa O'Hare, Kevin Lindall, Anders Smith Pogue, Bo
Hogan, Marc Farber, Jim O'Neill, Brian Wojtowicz, John Burgess, Kimberly Mao, Chairman Jefferson Sherr, Sara Gottschalk, Kurt Day, Adrienne Grandjean, Patricia Haag, Stephen Menconi, David Junior, Chris M. Hunt, Sam Phares, Heather Schroeder, Amy Everhart, John Shimp, Rachel Fletcher, Tony Jung, James J. Dannemiller, Jerry Milkowski, Bill Hsu, Hua Robson, Britt King, Larry Orshoski, Wes Sprague, David Grose, Jessica Sinclair, Tom Roseman, Ken
Oumano, Elena Raposa, David Moerder, Adam Michaels, Rob Carruthers, Sean Lozaw, Tristram du Lac, Josh Matsumoto, Jon Zahora, George Shimamoto, Ken Padgett, Ethan Hoinski, Michael Beta, Andy Birnbaum, Larry Smith, Brian Kogan, Frank Baca, Ricardo Condran, Ed Pryor, Tom Walsh, Jim Johnson, Martin Holley, Jr., Eugene Ratliff, Ben Nelson, Michael Cox, Paul Viera, Lauren Warnick, Ron Piotrowski, Daniel Lustig, Jay Snyder, David M.
Goldberg, Michael Lo, Kevin Petrusich, Amanda Wolk, Douglas Yatchisin, George Cisterna, Fred Khong, Rachel Danton, Eric Lynskey, Dorian Howe, Brian Sarig, Roni Lim, Dennis Hart, Otis Semioli, Tom Cross, Charles R. Musser, Jim Modell, Josh Epstein, Dan Margasak, Peter Henderson, Alex Chun, Kimberly Tucker, Ken Connelly, Jim Chan, Janna Brod, Doug Morris, Dave Smith, Rod Cooper, Carol York, Will Cober-Lake, Justin
Tanzilo, Bobby Cotner, David Blardinelli, Jill Kemp, Rob Miller, Andrew Berkowitz, Kenny Massimo, Rick Black, Cristina Johnson, Lynne Fouratt, Jim Zwickel, JonathanBradley, James Lane, Tom Fine, Jason Eyre, Banning Reynolds, Simon Saunders, Mike Lewis, Miles Marshall Freedberg, Michael Fury, Jeanne Miles, Milo Miller, Eric T. Sendra, Tim Ochs, Meredith Slaybaugh, Stephen Dreilinger, Danielle Levy, Joe Love, Josh Gallucci, Michael Mervis, Scott
Eells, Josh Sherlock, Dev Zupko, Sarah Easton, Anthony Harrington, Joe Lepage, Mark J. Kelly, Jennifer Rodgers, James Poet, J Reynolds, Steve Cherkis, Jason Willman, Chris Brackett, Nathan Ashare, Matt Sisario, Ben Hooley, Danny Mehr, Bob James, Falling Curtin, Michael Reesman, Bryan Pemberton, Rollie Bruno, Franklin Harrison, Don Fissure, Lalena Echlin, Hobey Aloi, Dan Edgerton, Robin Elbogen, Eric Gurza, Agustin Wilson, Scott
Lundy, Zeth Meyer, Marianne Nedelkoff, Robert Laskin, Tom Rabid, Jack Dubbin, Andy Dahlen, Chris Fitzgerald, Trent Henley, Tara Young, Jon Flores, Aurora Lipp, Marty Fricke, David Kristel, Todd Berkery, Patrick Mettler, Mike LaBate, Steve D., Spence Fortunato, John Altman, Billy Paoletta, Michael Ward, Steven Abowitz, Richard Devitt, Rachel Smith, J. Eric Ryan, Chris Harvell, Jess Boyd, Herb Cohen, Jonathan Lewis, Catherine
Hopkin, Kenyon Wynn, Ron Dreisinger, Baz Inoue, Todd S. Hutlock, Todd Richmond, Christine James, Robin Williams, Dan Perry, Jonathan Burr, Ramiro Turner, Brian Erickson, Steve McDonald, Glenn Himes, Geoffrey Bledsoe, Wayne Blumenfeld, Larry Patterson, Spencer Wang, Andy MacNeil, Jason Murphy, Matthew Davidson, Eric Aswad, Jem Sanneh, Kelefa O'Connor, Rob Clover, Joshua Holmes, Bill Worley, Gail Scott, Jon Jon Ray, Linda Washington, Rico
McNally, Patrick Moser, Grant Baron, Zach Ayers, Michael Ware, J. Anthony Rothman, Robin A. Vaziri, Aidin Kay, Lawrence Chennault, Samuel Lewis, Randy DiMaggio, Daniel Ettinger, Jill Van Dorston, A.S. Du Noyer, Paul Cantwell, David Corwine, Matt Knopper, Steve King, Jason Dawes, Laina Morgan, Jeffrey Seymour, Gene Kortbein, Josh Nicholson, Peter Marcus, Greil Townsend, Bob Wood, Mikael Wolgamott, L. Kent Corcoran, Clifford J. Ex, Kris Schreiber, Ryan
Rucker, Leland Davis, Peter Engelhart, Tony Linsey, Craig Passantino, Rosemary Crumsho, Michael Miccio, Anthony Dasein, Deena Barthel, Michael Zepezauer, Mark Phillips, Brock Micallef, Ken Bowe, Brian Kuo, Ryan Richardson, Derk Rosen, Steve Grass, Randall Klein, Joshua Fritch, Matthew Marchese, David Chun, Justin Bregman, Adam Cinquemani, Sal Burns, Todd Buoniconti, Dana Ruhlmann, William Miller, Derek Parker, Chris Tannenbaum, Rob Paul, George A.
Levin Becker, Daniel Gross, Jason Kaye, Robert Skanse, Richard Allred, Don Stosuy, Brandon Van Cooten, Mykella Wild, David Kaufman, Judith Scoppa, Bud Gilman, Marc Bos, Dana Brown, Ethan Alden, Grant Seroff, John Greenwald, Andy Hughes, David Rubin, Mike Dixon, Glenn Augusto, Troy J. Caramanica, Jon Scholtes, Peter Tranfa, Tony Stern, Chip Richardson, Ken Christgau, Robert Widner, Ellis Tsioulcas, Anastasia Christensen, Thor Loftus, Johnny
Foege, Alec Raihala, Ross Phillips, Amy Mitchum, Rob Terzian, Peter Kenny, Glenn Brooks, Caryn B. Beets, Greg Meyn, Stacy Scrudato, Ken Jenkins, Mark Draper, Jimmy Porter, James DeCurtis, Anthony Beres, Derek Blount, James McGonigal, Mike Point, Michael Raggett, Ned Friedman, Ted Semel, Paul Norman, Tony Petreycik, Rick Glennon, Sean Halpern, Ashlea Mazor, Barry LeRoy, Dan Cornell, Rick Serpick, Evan Springer, P. Gregory
Rea, Casey Swaminathan, Nikhil Tucker, Karen Iris Zacharek, Stephanie Becker, Bart Matteo, Steve Segal, Dave Ramsay, J.T. Rogers, Matt Moon, Tom Cost, Jud Paul, Franklin Ouellette, Dan Jaswa, Rajiv Milward, John Testa, Jim Gleason, Holly Radford, Chad Eliscu, Jenny Geary, Rob Wolf, Mike Plagenhoef, Scott Hucker, Dave Burton, Brent Gensler, Andy Holdship, Bill Birk, Nathan Berick, Mike Sterzinger, Ann Goldberg, Michael Alan
Cloutier, Cecile Seward, Scott Abebe, Nitsuh Smith, George Braxton, Charlie Orzeck, Kurt Blush, Steven Anderson, Kyle Gross, Joe Manning, Kara Shapiro, Jodi Finney, Tim Armstrong, Liz Krugman, Michael Rosen, Jody Beth Morales, Ed Cibula, Matt McCombs, Joseph Hildebrand, Lee Romano, Tricia Royko, David Moll, Susan Taylor, J. R. Ruggiero, Bob Calahan, Joel Lanier, Brett Kasten, Roy Catucci, Nick Lukas, Paul Moss, Corey

― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Monday, 1 May 2006 01:08 (nineteen years ago)

oh yeah i should note that this is based on album data only. (& of course that each time you generate one of these, you will get quite a different result, though each will have been reasonably optimized to try and group similar critics)

― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Monday, 1 May 2006 01:11 (nineteen years ago)

p.s. try manually bringing down the font size on the browser to take more of it in at once.

― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Monday, 1 May 2006 01:25 (nineteen years ago)

MY GOD... IT'S FULL OF STARS

― s1ocki (slutsky), Monday, 1 May 2006 01:27 (nineteen years ago)

hahahahahahah

― Jimmy Mod is a super idol of The MARS SPIRIT (The Famous Jimmy Mod), Monday, 1 May 2006 01:29 (nineteen years ago)

http://transbenik.free.fr/Moby/Discographie/stars2.jpg

― Jimmy Mod is a super idol of The MARS SPIRIT (The Famous Jimmy Mod), Monday, 1 May 2006 01:29 (nineteen years ago)

red means the what now?

― gear (gear), Monday, 1 May 2006 01:30 (nineteen years ago)

lol @ Dom's real name

― Unlimited Toothpicker (eman), Monday, 1 May 2006 01:31 (nineteen years ago)

kind of irrelevant now as pazz + jop is likely dead in the water.

― jinx hijinks (sanskrit), Monday, 1 May 2006 01:31 (nineteen years ago)

though i kind of wonder who the poor bastard was who got situated next to Jessica Hopper.

― jinx hijinks (sanskrit), Monday, 1 May 2006 01:32 (nineteen years ago)

I don't understand what this is trying to show. The colors are only based on similarity to neighbors, but the neighbors are chosen for similarity? Do the colors range from blue to red or does each have a separate value for blue and for red?

― a.b. (alanbanana), Monday, 1 May 2006 01:35 (nineteen years ago)

most states are technically "purple," you know.

― s1ocki (slutsky), Monday, 1 May 2006 01:37 (nineteen years ago)

the names are arranged so that critics are nearer ppl. whose ballots were similar to theirs. the redder a box, the better the "fit" -- i.e. a box that didn't have much red would indicate that the critic really wasn't all that close to ppl. in their neighborhood. i put it in to indicate regions of critics that, tho they are physically close, don't have much in common -- you can see "islands" of red/purple and "rivers" of less red, for example.

there are seperate blue and red values, independent of one another. the blue is based on similarity to overall consensus, not neighbors.

― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Monday, 1 May 2006 01:40 (nineteen years ago)

(one indication that this is at least doing something right: j. ho's buddy daphne carr ended up *right* next to her)

― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Monday, 1 May 2006 01:41 (nineteen years ago)

do me and nitsuh have to hold hands?

― scott seward (scott seward), Monday, 1 May 2006 01:45 (nineteen years ago) 

Battaglia, Andy   Orloff, Brian    Amorosi, A.D.  
Farber, Jim       O'Neill, Brian   Wojtowicz, John  
Raposa, David     Moerder, Adam    Michaels, Rob

If you are around me, hi! The closest person I see to me who I know posts here is Douglas Wolk.

― Brian O'Neill (NYCNative), Monday, 1 May 2006 03:00 (nineteen years ago)

uh, David R. posts here as ... David R.

Rob Michaels is a mensch so you must have good taste.

― Stormy Davis (diamond), Monday, 1 May 2006 04:22 (nineteen years ago)

Sorry, Dave...

― Brian O'Neill (NYCNative), Monday, 1 May 2006 07:04 (nineteen years ago)

I am on an edge and so am unpopular with only five friends. :(

― Raw Patrick (Raw Patrick), Monday, 1 May 2006 11:55 (nineteen years ago)

yeah me too and I
have no albums in common
with three of them, yikes

― Haikunym (Haikunym), Monday, 1 May 2006 12:50 (nineteen years ago)

Maye if instead of shades of red for similarity you used actual distance, rather than have it all laid out on a unifirm grid?

― mei (mei), Monday, 1 May 2006 13:08 (nineteen years ago)

We should so treat this like a MySpace thing.

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Monday, 1 May 2006 13:17 (nineteen years ago)

Christ Sterling this is almost like Randall Roberts' Pop Conference presentation, only with P&J rather than The Rolling Stone Album Guide.

― Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Monday, 1 May 2006 13:30 (nineteen years ago)

I'm pleasantly surprised to be in proximity to James Blount, Mike McGonigal, Ned Raggett, Jenny Eliscu, and Matt Cibula. And such a lovely shade of eggplant!

― Joseph McCombs (Joseph McCombs), Monday, 1 May 2006 13:54 (nineteen years ago)

I can't find myself! (which is nothing new)

― Raymond Cummings (Raymond Cummings), Monday, 1 May 2006 14:03 (nineteen years ago)

I don't want to consider the implications of being sandwiched between James Hannaham and white space.

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Monday, 1 May 2006 14:05 (nineteen years ago)

yeah hey hi Joseph
we're in a cool neighborhood
(probly high-crime though)

― Haikunym (Haikunym), Monday, 1 May 2006 14:12 (nineteen years ago)

Sterling, is this only albums? If you take albums and singles combined, I'd think I'd be way closer to you and Chuck and Jimmy Draper etc. than anyone you've got me near.

I don't even know the people I'm touching, but I see that I'm just a hop and a jump from Rob Harvilla, whom I'm grooming as my future enabler.

Brian, John Wójtowicz occasionally posts here (I forget under what name), and he's been a friend of mine since 1981.

― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Monday, 1 May 2006 15:48 (nineteen years ago)

i'll try and get a better one in a coupla days or maybe next weekend with some tweaks to the algorithm.

― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Monday, 1 May 2006 19:42 (nineteen years ago)

also probably be interesting to invert the feeds and classify albums in neighborhoods by the critics they have in common. should probably make a much more immediately obvious result.

― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Monday, 1 May 2006 19:43 (nineteen years ago)

I bow bwfore the amount of work this must've taken, but I still don't get it. Shouldn't the people we're close to have similar colors? (Boy, if I ever run for president I can see that getting taken out of context and sinking me.)

― Rick Massimo (Rick Massimo), Monday, 1 May 2006 20:11 (nineteen years ago)

Ha, Sterling, you have the opportunity for infinite cross-referencing here:

(1) Establish album affinities via critic voting patterns, thus grouping them together into cadres.

(2) Use the results to group critics (not just via voting for the same albums, but by voting for similar albums, as established in part 1).

(3) Use the results to re-calibrate album affinities, not only via voting patterns, but also the affinities between critics established in part 2.

(4) Use re-calibrated album affinities to recalibrate critic affinities ...

And do so again and again until it's conclusively proven that we're all secretly Corey DuBrowa.

― nabisco (nabisco), Monday, 1 May 2006 20:25 (nineteen years ago)

(P.S. I'm not sure I get the Daphne Carr / Hopper affinity joke -- are you sure you're not thinking of Hopper's super-bud Julianne Shepherd?) (Besides, I'm buddies with Daphne and I'm nowhere near her, presumably because she prefers things evil and/or Polish.)

― nabisco (nabisco), Monday, 1 May 2006 20:28 (nineteen years ago)

I should point out that when I first saw the thread I misread the title as "pazz jop critic insularity." Heh.

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Monday, 1 May 2006 20:35 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.musicobsession.com/Pictures/u/n/underworld342688.jpg

― gear (gear), Monday, 1 May 2006 20:39 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.biproducts.biz/buttonsmagnets/valueflag.gif

― -+-+-+++- (ooo), Monday, 1 May 2006 20:51 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.myblingring.com/images/designs/pink%20front%20purple.jpg

― gear (gear), Monday, 1 May 2006 20:54 (nineteen years ago)

yeah this seems impressive but i am still failing to understand the system at work here. am also meditating on my adjacency to nick sylvester. hmm.

― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Monday, 1 May 2006 21:27 (nineteen years ago)

am also meditating on my adjacency to nick sylvester

Maybe he fabricated his list from yours?

</cheap shot>

― Brian O'Neill (NYCNative), Monday, 1 May 2006 21:51 (nineteen years ago)

Well it seems like the complicated part is that red and blue values mean different things (as opposed to being a red-blue scale like in Bush/Kerry maps) -- and you can't really do at-a-glance visual uptake of two different values from one color.

But maybe I'm understanding the color values wrong?

― nabisco (nabisco), Monday, 1 May 2006 21:57 (nineteen years ago)

(Cheap shot fails based on that not being what "fabricated" means!)

― nabisco (nabisco), Monday, 1 May 2006 21:58 (nineteen years ago)

Main Entry: fab·ri·cate
Pronunciation: 'fa-bri-"kAt
Function: transitive verb
Inflected Form(s): -cat·ed; -cat·ing
Etymology: Middle English, from Latin fabricatus, past participle of fabricari, from fabrica
1 a : INVENT, CREATE b : to make up for the purpose of deception

Making up quotes, making up PNJ lists... Seems to me the word works, albeit imperfectly.

― Brian O'Neill (NYCNative), Monday, 1 May 2006 22:05 (nineteen years ago)

well to take from someone else's list would be to steal, not fabricate. no one would dare suggest nick sylvester is a thief.

― gear (gear), Monday, 1 May 2006 22:32 (nineteen years ago)


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