Orange Juice - We love your early singles and the unissued till later first album
against..
The Fire Engines - We don't give tuppence for your acetate with your first lousily recorded gig.
― mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 2 May 2006 10:00 (nineteen years ago)
― You'll Never Put a Better Bit of Butter On Your Knife (Dada), Tuesday, 2 May 2006 10:05 (nineteen years ago)
― the Enrique who acts like some kind of good taste gestapo (Enrique), Tuesday, 2 May 2006 10:13 (nineteen years ago)
― latebloomer (latebloomer), Tuesday, 2 May 2006 10:15 (nineteen years ago)
They sold shitloads of records
― You'll Never Put a Better Bit of Butter On Your Knife (Dada), Tuesday, 2 May 2006 10:17 (nineteen years ago)
― the Enrique who acts like some kind of good taste gestapo (Enrique), Tuesday, 2 May 2006 10:33 (nineteen years ago)
― You'll Never Put a Better Bit of Butter On Your Knife (Dada), Tuesday, 2 May 2006 10:34 (nineteen years ago)
― zebedee (zebedee), Tuesday, 2 May 2006 10:36 (nineteen years ago)
xpost
― the Enrique who acts like some kind of good taste gestapo (Enrique), Tuesday, 2 May 2006 10:46 (nineteen years ago)
― You'll Never Put a Better Bit of Butter On Your Knife (Dada), Tuesday, 2 May 2006 10:47 (nineteen years ago)
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― There's a Guy Works Down the Chip Shop Swears He's Elvish (noodle vague), Tuesday, 2 May 2006 10:59 (nineteen years ago)
― mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 2 May 2006 13:37 (nineteen years ago)
― fandango (fandango), Tuesday, 2 May 2006 13:49 (nineteen years ago)
― s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 2 May 2006 13:50 (nineteen years ago)
― Abbadavid Berman (Hurting), Tuesday, 2 May 2006 14:00 (nineteen years ago)
― You'll Never Put a Better Bit of Butter On Your Knife (Dada), Tuesday, 2 May 2006 14:02 (nineteen years ago)
― You'll Never Put a Better Bit of Butter On Your Knife (Dada), Tuesday, 2 May 2006 14:03 (nineteen years ago)
I think velvet underground was mainly listened to by andy warhols posse or those who wanted to be part of andy warhols posse in the 60s. That's still a pretty important group of people. Plus Lou Reed is awesome.
― andrew b (klik99), Tuesday, 2 May 2006 14:46 (nineteen years ago)
― superstar666, Tuesday, 2 May 2006 18:59 (nineteen years ago)
there are a lot of bands that fill the first question, the second is more interesting but more polemic and the answer to third is obviously Suicide.
― dingo, Tuesday, 2 May 2006 19:41 (nineteen years ago)
― js (honestengine), Tuesday, 2 May 2006 20:43 (nineteen years ago)
― Treblekicker (treblekicker), Tuesday, 2 May 2006 20:48 (nineteen years ago)
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Tuesday, 2 May 2006 21:53 (nineteen years ago)
― Matt McEver (mattmc387), Tuesday, 2 May 2006 22:55 (nineteen years ago)
― bodomfeeder, Wednesday, 3 May 2006 01:12 (nineteen years ago)
― John Hunter, Wednesday, 3 May 2006 01:30 (nineteen years ago)
How can you "influence" traditional pop? By definition, doesn't that genre just keep regurgitating the same Beatles/Byrds/Beach Boys influences?
― John Hunter, Wednesday, 3 May 2006 01:32 (nineteen years ago)
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 02:18 (nineteen years ago)
― ----->~~~~~, Wednesday, 3 May 2006 02:44 (nineteen years ago)
Relatively speaking, Pixies come to mind, if you consider that they could only manage to fill 1000 seats at best near the end of their original run. They had to be openers to bigger bands to play stadiums. Their last tour was opening for U2. Now, Pixies would almost compete with U2 for crowd draw...
Devo qualifies similarly, in that -- past Freedom Of Choice -- they were pretty outright ignored.. whereas now New Traditionalists and Oh No! It's Devo! have been rediscovered bigtime. (Can't say the same for Shout, Total Devo, or Smooth Noodle Maps though)
Charles Bronson are a great example of this in the hardcore rock scene.
Mission Of Burma in underground/college rock, etc.
And many mentioned above like VU, Suicide, etc.
― DOQQUN (donut), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 02:48 (nineteen years ago)
This is intentionally wild hyperbole, yes?
― Sundar (sundar), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 03:35 (nineteen years ago)
Both bands draw thousands... U2 can still draw a few thousand more, but that's dwindling every day. (I suppose this depends on the city, really.)
― DOQQUN (donut), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 03:47 (nineteen years ago)
― Abbadavid Berman (Hurting), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 03:57 (nineteen years ago)
― DOQQUN (donut), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 04:01 (nineteen years ago)
They've also glaringly influenced people like Weezer for example; listen to "Sweater Song" and sing the lyrics for "I Bleed" along to it, FFS.
― Trayce (trayce), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 04:32 (nineteen years ago)
Also, nobody liked Nirvana. QED. Or something.
― Trayce (trayce), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 04:33 (nineteen years ago)
― polyphonic (polyphonic), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 04:34 (nineteen years ago)
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 05:18 (nineteen years ago)
Velvet Underground influenced Pixies and Sonic Youth. Pixies and Sonic Youth hardly influenced anyone at all.
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 05:21 (nineteen years ago)
― badg (badg), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 05:25 (nineteen years ago)
I can't listen to the Editors because they sound so much of a carbon copy of Interpol. Face it Geir, they're better... and they're suave motherfuckers too!
― Treblekicker (treblekicker), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 08:13 (nineteen years ago)
People aren't NOW saying that. People have been saying that since '91. Including one Kurt Cobain.
― Colonel Poo (Colonel Poo), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 08:50 (nineteen years ago)
― Alone, Jealous and SSRI'd (kate), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 08:51 (nineteen years ago)
― Treblekicker (treblekicker), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 08:58 (nineteen years ago)
― Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 10:37 (nineteen years ago)
-- Geir Hongro (geirhon...), May 3rd, 2006 2:18 AM. (GeirHong) (later)
Mind you: people are now saying Pixies influenced Nirvana. I didn't hear it then and I dont hear it now.
Velvet Underground influenced Pixies and Sonic Youth. Pixies and Sonic Youth hardly influenced anyone at all. "
Wait, Interpol influenced bands (not Joy Division/New Order), but the Pixies and Sonic Youth didn't? Is this another trip to the alternate dimension known as the Hongroverse?
"Destroy All Monsters"
Point!
― js (honestengine), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 11:23 (nineteen years ago)
I consider the first band in a retro trend to be influential. Interpol were the first recent band to draw influence from Joy Division, which means they have influenced lots of others.
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 11:26 (nineteen years ago)
― Deric W. Haircare (Deric W. Haircare), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 11:48 (nineteen years ago)
a)nobody actually heard DAM #1 until 20 yrs later b)nobody who actually heard DAM #2 would admit to liking them
actually I've always thought Niagara influenced Madonna!
― m coleman (lovebug starski), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 11:55 (nineteen years ago)
If so, you're nuts. I cheerfully admit to owning and liking all 3 of them.
Unless you mean DAM #2 is the reformed 90's version, which I haven't heard. But if you do, then saying no-one heard #1 is wrong!
― Colonel Poo (Colonel Poo), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 13:48 (nineteen years ago)
― Colonel Poo (Colonel Poo), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 13:52 (nineteen years ago)
hello? mcfly?
― the Enrique who acts like some kind of good taste gestapo (Enrique), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 13:57 (nineteen years ago)
yeah that was my point. #1 = 74-76 group which must have been heard originally by what, a couple dozen party-goers in Annarbor? #2 = Ron Asheton's DAM, who I saw play live "more than once" and even bought their singles on DBKeeps Records, too. That lineup was ah special, inspiring a sort of like/hate relationship.
But I'm telling ya, Niagara paved the way for Madonna...
― m coleman (lovebug starski), Thursday, 4 May 2006 09:20 (nineteen years ago)
― Mr. Snrub (Mr. Snrub), Thursday, 4 May 2006 13:26 (nineteen years ago)