Has the Willie/Merle version of 'Pancho and Lefty' always been totally ruined by those cheesey keyboards and I just never noticed it before?

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I guess the sound in my head is the Townes Van Zandt one my dad used to play a lot.

Austin Still (Austin, Still), Friday, 5 May 2006 17:49 (nineteen years ago)

not ruined exactly, but yeah.

the other weird thing is that singing it as a duet gives it this whole goodtimey partners-on-the-trail vibe that is totally (literally) betrayed by the lyrics.

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Friday, 5 May 2006 18:04 (nineteen years ago)

the original townes van zandt recorded version was a duet as well. and Im not so sure that 'goodtimey' was the intended vibe. In fact I find it somewhat sad and dark at times. The keyboards reminds me of the time we sang Amazing Grace in a barn at a family reunion held at a ranch. About 80 people, we were accompanied by the cheesiest Casio synth/string patch. It was hilarious yet surreal.

Daniel Womack (jodawo), Saturday, 6 May 2006 00:32 (nineteen years ago)

I don't expect purity in a superstar country duet anyway so why not? Hey, the fact you never even noticed it before shows it isn't overly intrusive.

Carlos Keith (Buck_Wilde), Saturday, 6 May 2006 06:00 (nineteen years ago)

Where the hell are these keyboards in "Pancho and Lefty"??? I sure don't hear any!!

Mr. Snrub (Mr. Snrub), Sunday, 7 May 2006 20:16 (nineteen years ago)

sixteen years pass...

I used to hate the keyboards but somehow I have come to absorb them and now consider them part of the soundtrack of a first-rate made-for-tv Western.

Jean Arthur Rank (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 12 September 2022 12:57 (three years ago)

Where the hell are these keyboards in "Pancho and Lefty"??? I sure don't hear any!!
― Mr. Snrub (Mr. Snrub), Sunday, May 7, 2006 8:16 PM (sixteen years ago) bookmarkflaglink

Alright, I GUESS it’s the intro riff. But it’s only ten seconds of the song, and it’s not that bad.

Mr. Snrub, Monday, 12 September 2022 18:27 (three years ago)

one month passes...

https://www.dallasnews.com/opinion/commentary/2018/02/22/how-billy-graham-closed-down-dallas-and-co-wrote-townes-van-zandt-s-pancho-and-lefty/

We Have Never Been Secondary Modern (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 18 October 2022 13:37 (three years ago)

Which includes this video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i1c3gHxaALw

We Have Never Been Secondary Modern (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 18 October 2022 13:38 (three years ago)

After reading Michaelangelo Matos' book "Can't Slow Down" about the quick evolution in early-'80s radio formats, I wonder if the synthy intro was a strategy to get skittish radio programmers, with recent research that might have told them that listeners turn the station immediately after hearing an acoustic guitar, to at least give the track a few spins instead of ignoring it completely.

Front-loaded albums are musical gerrymandering (Prefecture), Tuesday, 18 October 2022 18:47 (three years ago)

I love that keyboard; it cushions their voices.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 18 October 2022 18:49 (three years ago)

xpost yeah, for inst there was a synth on Dolly Parton's version of "Deportee."

dow, Tuesday, 18 October 2022 18:54 (three years ago)

the original townes van zandt recorded version was a duet as well.

lol I am 16 years late in responding to this, but no, it was not.

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 18 October 2022 18:58 (three years ago)

Well, his acolyte Steve Earle ("he taught me to use clean needles") declared that "Townes was both": both characters, the Icarus badass and the leftover (who mebbe sold out the former, according to some listeners), the artist and the recessive self-abuser---so in that sense, you could say he was always a duet (also some suggestion of self-medicating bipolar, and for sure dark and light, as you can see and hear in the awesome xpost Heartworn Highways)

dow, Tuesday, 18 October 2022 19:08 (three years ago)

who mebbe sold out the former, according to some listeners

There ain’t nobody knows

We Have Never Been Secondary Modern (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 18 October 2022 19:24 (three years ago)

recessive self-abuser

TBF, this probably describes most of us.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 18 October 2022 19:37 (three years ago)

For those out of the loop, this tune also is part of an amusing little bit in this dark horse sleeper ILX favorite show: Patriot on Amazon Prime: Let me Walk You Through Our Donnely Nut Spacing

We Have Never Been Secondary Modern (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 18 October 2022 20:16 (three years ago)

recessive self-abuser

TBF, this probably describes most of us.

Not judging, for purposes of description only!

dow, Tuesday, 18 October 2022 20:49 (three years ago)

I mean, everyone does it, even if they say they don't.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 18 October 2022 20:51 (three years ago)

In songwriter's case, re more specifically drug abuse, in character's case, general sense of survival as cold consolation in leftover twilight ("Cleveland's cold")

dow, Tuesday, 18 October 2022 20:56 (three years ago)

self-abuse as cold consolation brrrrr

dow, Tuesday, 18 October 2022 20:57 (three years ago)

It's often lonely

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 18 October 2022 21:09 (three years ago)

Excellent posts, dow

We Have Never Been Secondary Modern (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 18 October 2022 21:12 (three years ago)

Sometimes I like to think of this song as a super-compressed version of The Wild Bunch.

We Have Never Been Secondary Modern (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 19 October 2022 02:29 (three years ago)

Cool, now what we need is a super-compressed version of Bring Me The Head of Alfredo Garcia.

dow, Wednesday, 19 October 2022 02:31 (three years ago)

Hasil Adkins to thread!

We Have Never Been Secondary Modern (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 19 October 2022 02:36 (three years ago)

Reposting from Patriot thread.

The original lyrics of "Pancho and Lefty" say "only let him hang around" in the first chorus and later on it's "go so wrong" instead of "go so long" is that it? It's not just Willie and Merle though, also Emmylou Harris which is maybe who they heard it from iirc.

We Have Never Been In Precise Modern Lovers Order (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 19 October 2022 13:31 (three years ago)

one month passes...

This tune never gets old.

Soda Stereo Total (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 17 December 2022 00:52 (three years ago)

two years pass...

Never realized this was produced by Chips Moman.

35 Millimeter Dream Police (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 15 July 2025 14:39 (six months ago)

To answer the question: fucking no! The keyboards help.

hungover beet poo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 15 July 2025 15:16 (six months ago)

Alfred so so so otm

J Edgar Noothgrush (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Tuesday, 15 July 2025 23:41 (six months ago)

five months pass...

He only did what he had to do
And now he's growing old

Eric Blore Is President (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 1 January 2026 14:19 (two weeks ago)

Live version on Rear View Mirror by Townes Van Zandt is the best version

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 1 January 2026 16:04 (two weeks ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tMak5aEtQQc

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 1 January 2026 16:06 (two weeks ago)

Rear View Mirror is still my fave Townes record, a lot of those performances feel definitive

tylerw, Thursday, 1 January 2026 19:26 (two weeks ago)

Back in Ann Arbor in the 90s, I bought a Townes cd called Rain on a Conga Drum, Live in Berlin. It has a great version of Pancho & Lefty preceded by a fun story about how he wrote it at some dump of a motel outside of Dallas. I don’t see an upload on YouTube so can’t share the story.

that's not my post, Friday, 2 January 2026 03:32 (one week ago)

This story is oft told. They got stuck in the motel because of some Billy Graham rally, I believe, which caused a big traffic jam, so I he figured he'd used the downtime to write a song iirc

Eric Blore Is President (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 2 January 2026 03:40 (one week ago)

First karaoke song of the year!

Eric Blore Is President (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 2 January 2026 05:09 (one week ago)

Otis Gibbs has some good interview videos about Townes Van Zandt that are worth seeing.

I have ran into a couple people that have stories about TVZ's time in Louisville.

earlnash, Friday, 2 January 2026 05:35 (one week ago)


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