Who else has seen fit to instruct their fans on how to listen? What have they said? Should people be told how to listen to a record?
― Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 08:34 (nineteen years ago)
― Konal Doddz (blueski), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 08:41 (nineteen years ago)
Of course, people needn't be told at what volume they should listen to a record.
― willem -- (willem), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 08:42 (nineteen years ago)
― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 08:43 (nineteen years ago)
Should people be told how to listen to a record?I don't really care either way. It's kinda fun when they do.
― AaronHz (AaronHz), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 08:43 (nineteen years ago)
― The Other Day Upon The Stairs (kate), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 08:44 (nineteen years ago)
Yes, some of them will be regurgitated in a Stylus column soon...
― Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 08:45 (nineteen years ago)
Coil - Music to Play in the Dark
The Electro Hippes album has someone at the begining of it saying "Play right loud."
(We know that about all yr threads, Nick.)
― Raw Patrick (Raw Patrick), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 08:46 (nineteen years ago)
― Raw Patrick (Raw Patrick), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 08:47 (nineteen years ago)
― AaronHz (AaronHz), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 08:48 (nineteen years ago)
Never talk to me on MSN. ALL goes in a column.
― Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 08:49 (nineteen years ago)
― Vernon Jackson (kate), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 08:50 (nineteen years ago)
― Vernon Jackson (kate), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 08:51 (nineteen years ago)
― AaronHz (AaronHz), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 08:53 (nineteen years ago)
― the Enrique who acts like some kind of good taste gestapo (Enrique), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 08:54 (nineteen years ago)
― Rombald, Tuesday, 9 May 2006 08:55 (nineteen years ago)
― DJ Mencap (DJ Mencap), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 09:07 (nineteen years ago)
Think Disintegration by the Cure says "mixed to be played loud" by that's more a statement then a suggestion.
― Peteski, Tuesday, 9 May 2006 09:11 (nineteen years ago)
― Vernon Jackson (kate), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 09:12 (nineteen years ago)
Not many heavy metal suggestions here so far surprisingly.
― Raw Patrick (Raw Patrick), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 09:24 (nineteen years ago)
― koogs (koogs), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 09:30 (nineteen years ago)
Big Black - Songs About Fucking
― Treblekicker (treblekicker), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 09:39 (nineteen years ago)
― xgurggleglgllg (xgurggleglgllg), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 09:41 (nineteen years ago)
― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 09:52 (nineteen years ago)
Are there any that mention use/disuse of headphones?
― Raw Patrick (Raw Patrick), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 09:59 (nineteen years ago)
― ewmy (ewmy), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 10:03 (nineteen years ago)
― koogs (koogs), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 10:08 (nineteen years ago)
on moloko's do you like my tight sweater? they advise you to buy two copies of the album and play them at the same time on two separate cd players in the same room, and apparently the result will be an "interesting quadrophenic effect" or some such gubbins (plus two copies of the moloko album sold).
― The Lex (The Lex), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 10:12 (nineteen years ago)
Phill Niblock, YPGPN
― Mark (MarkR), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 10:23 (nineteen years ago)
sleeve notes from stereolab's "transient random-noise"
"try this:while playing this disc,rest your fingers lightly on top of the grill of yr speakers...." -from Superconductor's - Bastardsong lp.
― emekars (emekars), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 10:24 (nineteen years ago)
― AJ, Tuesday, 9 May 2006 10:27 (nineteen years ago)
1982 release
AN AMBIENT SPEAKER SYSTEM
I regard this music as environmental: to be experienced from the inside. Accordingly I considered releasing a quadrophonic version of it, an idea I abandoned upon realising that very few people (myself included) own quadrophonic systems.
However, I have for many years been using a three-way speaker system that is both simple to install and inexpensive, and which seems to work very well on any music with a broad stereo image. The effect is subtle but definite - it opens out the music and seems to enlarge the room acoustically.
In addition to a normal stereo hifi system all that is required is one extra loudspeaker and some speaker cable. The usage of this speaker in the three-way system is such that it will not be required to handle very low frequencies: therefore a small or "mini" speaker will be adequate.
As shown in the diagram, the two terminals of the new speaker are connected to the two positive (red) speaker connectors on the amplifier. This speaker is located somewhere behind the listener - at the apex of a triangle whose base is formed by the original loudspeaker set-up. One of the unexpected benefits of this system is an increase in the usable listening area - almost any point in the room will yield good (although not necessarily "accurate") stereo sound.
I arrived at this system by accident, and I don't really know why it works. What seems to happen is that the third speaker reproduces any sound that is not common to both sides of the stereo - i.e., everything that is not located centrally in the stereo image - and I assume that this is because the common information is put out of phase with itself and cancels out.
More technically, the lower the impedance of the added speaker, the louder it will sound. If it is found to be too loud (although this rarely seems to happen), you can either insert a potentiometer (6-12 ohms, at least 10 watts) into the circuit, or move the speaker further away.
http://music.hyperreal.org/artists/brian_eno/enoass.gif
― Mark (MarkR), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 10:33 (nineteen years ago)
― slugbuggy (slugbuggy), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 11:06 (nineteen years ago)
(okay, so nobody has actually said that, but it would be great if someone would)
― Joe (Joe), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 11:15 (nineteen years ago)
Chick Corea, liner notes to Miles Davis' Black Beauty
― Joe (Joe), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 11:16 (nineteen years ago)
― Rombald, Tuesday, 9 May 2006 11:19 (nineteen years ago)
― js (honestengine), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 11:29 (nineteen years ago)
― dog latin (dog latin), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 11:37 (nineteen years ago)
― ramon fernandez (ramon fernandez), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 11:49 (nineteen years ago)
― Siegbran (eofor), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 12:06 (nineteen years ago)
"A splendid time is guaranteed for all"
― dr x o'skeleton, Tuesday, 9 May 2006 12:08 (nineteen years ago)
― Dominique (dleone), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 12:39 (nineteen years ago)
― Mark (MarkR), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 12:43 (nineteen years ago)
― latebloomer (latebloomer), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 12:44 (nineteen years ago)
designed for shoulder speakers srs-gs 70 sony
― Jena (JenaP), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 12:46 (nineteen years ago)
― Dominique (dleone), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 12:47 (nineteen years ago)
― RoxyMuzak© (roxymuzak), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 12:49 (nineteen years ago)
― Raw Patrick (Raw Patrick), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 12:51 (nineteen years ago)
― dog latin (dog latin), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 12:53 (nineteen years ago)
― Dave Bush (davebush), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 13:09 (nineteen years ago)
― Dominique (dleone), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 13:27 (nineteen years ago)
- It says this on all Pulp albums
― Robin Goad (rgoad), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 13:29 (nineteen years ago)
There's a Mega City Four record--"Who Cares Wins," I think--which has an adorable disclaimer on the back about how they had compromise sound quality in order to fit all of the songs onto two sides of vinyl, and suggest listening to it very loud on crappy speakers or while in a car.
― owen moorhead (i heart daniel miller), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 13:36 (nineteen years ago)
― Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 13:39 (nineteen years ago)
― Martin Schneider (priceyeah), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 13:50 (nineteen years ago)
― max (maxreax), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 13:53 (nineteen years ago)
― such a crazy f, Tuesday, 9 May 2006 13:54 (nineteen years ago)
"Note: These pieces should be played VERY LOUD. Sweet Potato should be played less loud than the rest. There is enormous bass in the piano piece, so watch out for your woofers."
from Touch Food
― Matt B. (Matt B.), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 13:57 (nineteen years ago)
― sixteen sergeants, Tuesday, 9 May 2006 13:59 (nineteen years ago)
― autovac (autovac), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 14:02 (nineteen years ago)
From Bernard Gunter's "Un Peu de Neige Salie" -- "the music on this CD is intended to be listened to at very low volume!"
― NoTimeBeforeTime (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 14:03 (nineteen years ago)
― patita (patita), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 14:25 (nineteen years ago)
I have another record, can't remember artist or title, that says "Made Loud To Be Played Loud."
― pdf (Phil Freeman), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 14:45 (nineteen years ago)
I say in some cases, "yes." If someone says to listen to it loud, that may mean that the way it was mastered, you will get the most out of the dynamics if played loud. That could be critical if a record has a lot of lower level detail...certain things will jump out a bit more if you raise the volume.
However, turning up any radio friendly song louder just makes it more unbearably annoying to listen to.
― bobby.lasers (bobby.lasers), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 14:47 (nineteen years ago)
― NoTimeBeforeTime (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 14:59 (nineteen years ago)
"A bit of advice from Jimmy M: Maximum cycle characteristics and frequency response of high decibel level have been set according to standards suggested in the GUY STEVENS Producer Manual, chart #357, in index, page 304. These recommended standards were compiled by the same authority having recently measured audible damage created by supersonic aircraft - if for any reason you do not agree with these standards - turn it up."
― Keith C (lync0), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 15:11 (nineteen years ago)
-- Rombald
But, but... that Brainticket album also has a lot of very ON-topic pieces of advice:
"Warning. Only listen once a day to this record. Your brain might be destroyed! Hallelujah Records takes no responsibility."
"Note: this is not 'background music.' It should be listened to in full, preferably in total darkness. Also recommended are headphones and a travelling companion."
"Join in... Listen to the first recording of this LSD/Hashish/Fixy/Jointy Sound. Take a trip to your inner light. See the hallucinations of reality rise out of the groove You've got your Brainticket now! Hallelujah!"
― emil.y (emil.y), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 15:29 (nineteen years ago)
― smn (smn), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 15:38 (nineteen years ago)
― Daniel Peterson (polkaholic), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 15:54 (nineteen years ago)
That's the first thing I thought of though.
― Dark Horse, Tuesday, 9 May 2006 16:17 (nineteen years ago)
― Avi (Avi), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 17:05 (nineteen years ago)
They must've chickened out on later pressings cos' mine is not like that. Autechre's LP5 is like that though isn't it?
― Treblekicker (treblekicker), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 18:33 (nineteen years ago)
― Josh in Chicago (Josh in Chicago), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 19:33 (nineteen years ago)
John Cage / Lejaren Hiller - HPSCHD -- http://www.johncage.info/cdlabels/nonesuch71224.html
every copy had a computer dot matrix print-out 'score', each one with different randomly generated values -- though Cage wasn't telling the listener he had to do this, it was more of an invitation
― milton parker (Jon L), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 19:36 (nineteen years ago)
― Raw Patrick (Raw Patrick), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 20:22 (nineteen years ago)
― LeRooLeRoo (Seb), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 20:26 (nineteen years ago)
What, instead of just playing "Romeo Had Juliette" over and over again?
― Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 20:37 (nineteen years ago)
― xgurggleglgllg (xgurggleglgllg), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 20:50 (nineteen years ago)
― jonathan - stl (jonathan - stl), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 20:57 (nineteen years ago)
― Ogmor Roundtrouser (Ogmor Roundtrouser), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 00:05 (nineteen years ago)
― sleeve (sleeve), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 01:02 (nineteen years ago)
The American version of "The Clash" had a warning similar to Pulp's on its lyric sleeve.
Warren Zevon once remarked in an interview that he thought the "play loud" thing was stupid. It was in Goldmine, if you want to look it up.
― Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 01:29 (nineteen years ago)
― dlp9001 (dlp9001), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 01:53 (nineteen years ago)
― Dave Bush (davebush), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 03:34 (nineteen years ago)
― brittle-lemon (brittle-lemon), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 03:42 (nineteen years ago)
*Important Warning* The song Torture Chamber should NOT be played at high volume
John Cage put out an album with complete instructions on how you should turn the volume, pan, bass and treble knobs at selected intervals (about every 15 seconds).
-- milton parker (milton.parke...), May 10th, 2006 6:36 AM. (later)
Doesn't Mix/Feed with Max Neuhaus also have something similar, or am I imaging it.
Whitehouse (surprising) have requested that music of their not be played loudly. In the track listing for the Twice Is Not Enough collection, the last track; 'Torture Chamber*' has:
― S- (sgh), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 04:02 (nineteen years ago)
Burial - Burial
Apparently - I don't have copy yet. Suspect it will be one of the best albums of the year though based on the Hyperdub 12"...
― Treblekicker (treblekicker), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 12:02 (nineteen years ago)
I am going to put "Play at a reasonable volume, be considerate of your neighbours. Use headphones if necessary." on the Shimuras album.
awesome. you could also add "Be nice to your mother" and "clean your room".
― john clarkson, Wednesday, 10 May 2006 12:50 (nineteen years ago)
― Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 13:41 (nineteen years ago)
They Might Be Giant's Apollo 18 has a bunch of short (like fifteen seconds each) songs collectively known as "Fingertips" and the liner notes encourage you to play it on shuffle.
― joygoat (joygoat), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 14:57 (nineteen years ago)
Not that I know how that would be possible in the first place.
― peter in montreal (spaces are allowed), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 15:07 (nineteen years ago)
― Marmotdeth (marmotwolof), Monday, 29 May 2006 03:01 (nineteen years ago)
So...do they mean like, knobs at 2:00 and 5:00, or just 2 and 5? Out of what? "These go up to 11."
The third-speaker Eno thing is fascinating. Would that really work or is it some sort of put on (ie, will actually blow up your speakers)?
― Doctor Casino (Doctor Casino), Monday, 29 May 2006 06:04 (nineteen years ago)
Yes, exactly. Tt's a little drawn diagram thingy sorta like:
B:0/2 T:0\5
but with the / & \ inside the 0 with the number on the end. So it's actually more like bass 7, treble 10. Hope that makes sense.
― Marmotdeth (marmotwolof), Monday, 29 May 2006 06:37 (nineteen years ago)
this, i think, is because the whole thing was crammed onto one vinyl record - fuck knows why; it really should have been a double - and was the single quietest artefact ever. you had to turn the volume up to 11 to hear anything at all.
― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Monday, 29 May 2006 10:34 (nineteen years ago)
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Monday, 29 May 2006 12:51 (nineteen years ago)
― Myonga Von Bongofury, Monday, 29 May 2006 16:37 (nineteen years ago)
-- sixteen sergeants (andrew.bryso...), May 9th, 2006 9:59 AM.
They also use this on White 2.
― Ivan Gallardo (Ivan), Monday, 29 May 2006 17:08 (nineteen years ago)