"These Days"

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Who recorded it first, Jackson Browne or Nico? I know Browne composed/penned it, but who sung it first?

James Jung (James Jung), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 00:48 (nineteen years ago)

I admit I was thinking of the "Love Will Tear Us Apart" B-side...

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 00:50 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, Jackson wrote it. He recorded a set of demos (bootlegged as "The Nina Demos") that included the song - pretty sure it was before the Chelsea Girl sessions.

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 00:53 (nineteen years ago)

oh nedpaws

nico's version was released first, although browne played on that version.

electric sound of jim (and why not) (electricsound), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 00:55 (nineteen years ago)

oh nedpaws

Hooray!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 00:56 (nineteen years ago)

great, thanks!

James Jung (James Jung), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 01:11 (nineteen years ago)

Tim have you heard those Browne sesesions - are they as great as people say they are, or is it a case of "they weren't released, therefore I like 'em better"?

Thomas Tallis (Tommy), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 02:00 (nineteen years ago)

Ian Matthews (or Iain, as he prefers) does a decent version of this song, but the Nico one is better.

timmy tannin (pompous), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 02:10 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, I do have a copy of that, Tommy. There are a good dozen or so songs (it was bootlegged as a double LP) about the quality of the ones Nico did. Which is a lot! They do get a little samey, but I have a lot of affection for that stuff. It's just Jackson accompanying himself on acoustic guitar throughout.

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 02:21 (nineteen years ago)

I was thinking of the REM song from "Life's Rich Pageant." That's very good, by the way.

Doctor Casino (Doctor Casino), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 04:00 (nineteen years ago)

check out the greg allman version if you wanna get full on forlorn

Quentin Chillentino, Tuesday, 16 May 2006 12:19 (nineteen years ago)

I love the Paul Westerberg version, but I'm pretty sure I'm the only person on ILM who likes his solo stuff.

p@reene (Pareene), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 12:56 (nineteen years ago)

check out the greg allman version if you wanna get full on forlorn

Ditto Kate Wolf's version; hers kills Nico's (much as I like Nico's).

Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 13:03 (nineteen years ago)

Jane's Addiction?

Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 13:04 (nineteen years ago)

Except that that has a totally different title and I can't read.

Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 13:06 (nineteen years ago)

check out the greg allman version if you wanna get full on forlorn.

Ditto Kate Wolf's version; hers kills Nico's (much as I like Nico's).

But Terry Melcher's, with his MOM (Doris Day!) singing the death's door duet part, slays them all.

Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 13:19 (nineteen years ago)

i like the version lori carson did on golden palomino's "this is how it feels"

kyle (akmonday), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 13:24 (nineteen years ago)

nice Techmo version from Phantom/Ghost up here http://gabba.cc/

Bidfurd (Bidfurd), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 13:38 (nineteen years ago)

Mates of State recorded a version for the soundtrack to Wicker Park. I like it.

James, Tuesday, 16 May 2006 13:42 (nineteen years ago)

I need to hear that.

Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 14:03 (nineteen years ago)

I was too, Ned. (And it gets stuck in my head more than any other JD song.) I don't think I know the real deal.

Sundar (sundar), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 14:22 (nineteen years ago)

three years pass...

It's pretty rare I get to school some hardcore ILX0RZ but this is the original version of "these days":

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yKKdaRYJ4XM

Recorded in 66-67 when Browne was in the band, before he moved to NYC.

(*゚ー゚)θ L(。・_・)   °~ヾ(・ε・ *) (Steve Shasta), Friday, 31 July 2009 18:27 (sixteen years ago)

also:
Jackson Browne - C or D?

(*゚ー゚)θ L(。・_・)   °~ヾ(・ε・ *) (Steve Shasta), Friday, 31 July 2009 18:29 (sixteen years ago)

Wow, never heard this version... It's a great one I think.

J4mi3 H4rl3y (Snowballing), Friday, 31 July 2009 18:33 (sixteen years ago)

wtf excellent find

girlish in the worst sense of that term (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 31 July 2009 18:35 (sixteen years ago)

"Somebody's Baby" is cool. Punk sucks anyway!

― dave q

velko, Friday, 31 July 2009 18:37 (sixteen years ago)

yeahhhh ... Tom Rush version is pretty ace too.

tylerw, Friday, 31 July 2009 18:37 (sixteen years ago)

have always wanted to hear Simon & Garfunkel sing this ... or maybe even better, the Everly Bros. Have they done it? Seems like they could've.

tylerw, Friday, 31 July 2009 18:39 (sixteen years ago)

Wait, this isn't about Joy Division? Yawn.

Alex in NYC, Friday, 31 July 2009 18:48 (sixteen years ago)

wow, that version is great.

dan selzer, Friday, 31 July 2009 18:50 (sixteen years ago)

Great song, suprised it never made it onto a This Mortal Coil album

DJ Angoreinhardt (Billy Dods), Friday, 31 July 2009 20:12 (sixteen years ago)

five months pass...

One of the earlier versions (1970) is by Johnny Darrell, a country singer who had alienated everyone in Nashville and whose record label (UA) sent him out to L.A. to record. He picked up on some of the younger singer-songwriters there, and did versions of songs by Browne, Lowell George, etc. for a pretty great LP called "California Stop-Over." "These Days" is the opening track. If you want it, here it is: http://rapidshare.com/files/190570635/Darrell.zip

Still and all, Nico's version is hands down the best I've heard, thanks to her vocal and the John Cale (?) arrangement.

figuratively, but in a very real way (amateurist), Thursday, 31 December 2009 18:04 (sixteen years ago)

still prefer the JB version to the Nico version

Herodcare for the Unborn (J0hn D.), Thursday, 31 December 2009 18:34 (sixteen years ago)

damn, this song was ubiquitous in the early 70s. there are also versions on albums by tom rush, jennifer warnes, new grass revival....

figuratively, but in a very real way (amateurist), Thursday, 31 December 2009 21:02 (sixteen years ago)

the terry melcher version is really over the top

velko, Thursday, 31 December 2009 21:08 (sixteen years ago)

Ian Matthews version still my fave.

ian, Friday, 1 January 2010 19:43 (sixteen years ago)

that terry melcher LP sort of sucks.

ian matthews's version, like all his records, is pretty.

figuratively, but in a very real way (amateurist), Friday, 1 January 2010 21:55 (sixteen years ago)

yes, that terry melcher lp DOES kinda suck. glad i'm not alone in thinking that.

ian, Saturday, 2 January 2010 05:59 (sixteen years ago)

The Rentals version is good.

billstevejim, Saturday, 2 January 2010 06:01 (sixteen years ago)

Another person duped into thinking this was going to be about Joy Division.

brotherlovesdub, Saturday, 2 January 2010 06:11 (sixteen years ago)

three months pass...

mates of state version sucks.

this one, however...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3iERA9gycLg

by another name (amateurist), Thursday, 22 April 2010 07:27 (fifteen years ago)

Wow, this thread opens up a door to a parallel universe that turns out to be the real one.

Blecch Generation (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 22 April 2010 10:49 (fifteen years ago)

one year passes...

could it be that jackson browne wrote his best songs before he had a record contract?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WzCD8YzDFD4

probably not, but still, i like this song a lot. the baroque-pop arrangement does it nice favors.

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Tuesday, 25 October 2011 00:13 (fourteen years ago)

six months pass...

in general those early NGDB records are kind of great, but nobody seems to care. :(

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Friday, 4 May 2012 23:07 (thirteen years ago)

yeah they kind of get forgotten for everything except Circle

Jamie_ATP, Friday, 4 May 2012 23:25 (thirteen years ago)

karmic payback for naming themselves "The Nitty Gritty Dirt Band" I'm pretty sure

cosi fan whitford (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Saturday, 5 May 2012 00:35 (thirteen years ago)

i wonder if The Beatles would have been as successful as they were if they were named "The Nitty Gritty Dirt Band."

Pat Finn, Saturday, 5 May 2012 02:08 (thirteen years ago)

A couple of people mentioned the Tom Rush version, which I just bought last week:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6aJzQMtoOYU

Never knew about the Nitty Gritty Dirt Band--pleasingly different from all the others.

clemenza, Saturday, 5 May 2012 04:17 (thirteen years ago)

i wonder if The Beatles would have been as successful as they were if they were named "The Nitty Gritty Dirt Band."

― Pat Finn, Friday, May 4, 2012 9:08 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

well, the flying burrito band is pretty well-loved even now and they have a really shitty name so

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Saturday, 5 May 2012 05:00 (thirteen years ago)

the flying burrito brothers is a great name!! it's got the word 'burritos' in it!!!

one dis leads to another (ian), Saturday, 5 May 2012 05:14 (thirteen years ago)

^^It's a Mexican Sandwich!

Leslie Mann: Boner Machine (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 5 May 2012 05:22 (thirteen years ago)

good point about the flying burrito brothers. they're an interesting case because while their name is ridiculous and juvenile, their music is not, and that discrepancy isn't a big deal. and also when i think about it, the beatles isn't such a great name either. maybe what borges said of the titles of novels holds true for bands -- none of the great ones have good names.

Pat Finn, Saturday, 5 May 2012 13:39 (thirteen years ago)

Joy Division

Dr X O'Skeleton, Saturday, 5 May 2012 15:46 (thirteen years ago)

I agree that Joy Division is a great band with a good name. Borges's rule doesn't hold true for novels either. Nabokov's books always had great titles.

Pat Finn, Sunday, 6 May 2012 00:20 (thirteen years ago)

seven months pass...

"She's a Lady," a '68 solo John Sebastian single on Kama Sutra, kind of has the Orange County vibe of this early Jackson stuff or Steve Noonan.

timellison, Wednesday, 12 December 2012 03:21 (thirteen years ago)

Wikipedia article says Nitty Gritty Dirt Band (when Jackson was a member) opened for the Spoonful once.

timellison, Wednesday, 12 December 2012 03:24 (thirteen years ago)

Also, I think Bridget St. John had this quality! "The Curious Crystals of Unusual Purity" on the first album is a good example.

timellison, Tuesday, 18 December 2012 02:28 (thirteen years ago)

eleven years pass...

There's probably a thread for this, but I'd place "These Days" alongside "After the Gold Rush" (or maybe it's "Only Love Can Break Your Heart") as a song that it's impossible to cover badly. I've heard at least seven or eight versions of "These Days," and they're all good to great. Latest: St. Vincent's.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vxQs84FMWQ

clemenza, Saturday, 17 February 2024 19:02 (two years ago)

And Nectarine No. 9:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3fg2y_pgXuU

henry s, Saturday, 17 February 2024 19:18 (two years ago)

As much as I like St. Vincent and Kate Wolf, neither hold a candle to Nico.

Will enjoy checking out the other versions!!

BriefCandles, Saturday, 17 February 2024 23:41 (two years ago)

Weirdly, I heard Browne's 1973 LP version (having never knowingly done so before) at the same time as this revive. Spooky.

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Sunday, 18 February 2024 00:30 (two years ago)

Julie Byrne's recent version is really lovely: https://juliembyrne.bandcamp.com/track/these-days

ernestp, Monday, 19 February 2024 02:06 (two years ago)

to write an enduring masterpiece as a teenager, incredible

I'd place it alongside "Both Sides Now" as a song that's so masterfully crafted that I can't really fathom how young the composers were at the time

corrs unplugged, Monday, 19 February 2024 09:45 (two years ago)

I started a thread on that subject a couple of years ago:

You Can't Be 20: Old-Person Songs by Young People

clemenza, Monday, 19 February 2024 10:31 (two years ago)

nice!

corrs unplugged, Monday, 19 February 2024 11:35 (two years ago)

I'm a huge fan of the Gregg Allman version mentioned upthread

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fXMcn3Oupug

Indexed, Tuesday, 20 February 2024 17:18 (two years ago)

Here's a list of 74 covers from SecondHandSongs:

https://secondhandsongs.com/work/56904/versions#nav-entity

I said I'd heard seven or eight; eight now, including two on this thread after I posted. Cher covered it in '75, which I assume was prompted by her then husband's cover above.

clemenza, Tuesday, 20 February 2024 17:51 (two years ago)

Seven versions before Jackson Browne got around to recording it.

clemenza, Tuesday, 20 February 2024 17:52 (two years ago)

interesting how Allman changes "I had not forgotten them" which suits Nico's voice perfectly to the more straightforward "I'm aware of them", great little edit

corrs unplugged, Wednesday, 21 February 2024 08:43 (two years ago)


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