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"These Days"

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Who recorded it first, Jackson Browne or Nico? I know Browne composed/penned it, but who sung it first?

― James Jung (James Jung), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 00:48 (twenty years ago)

I admit I was thinking of the "Love Will Tear Us Apart" B-side...

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 00:50 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, Jackson wrote it. He recorded a set of demos (bootlegged as "The Nina Demos") that included the song - pretty sure it was before the Chelsea Girl sessions.

― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 00:53 (twenty years ago)

oh nedpaws

nico's version was released first, although browne played on that version.

― electric sound of jim (and why not) (electricsound), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 00:55 (twenty years ago)

oh nedpaws

Hooray!

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 00:56 (twenty years ago)

great, thanks!

― James Jung (James Jung), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 01:11 (twenty years ago)

Tim have you heard those Browne sesesions - are they as great as people say they are, or is it a case of "they weren't released, therefore I like 'em better"?

― Thomas Tallis (Tommy), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 02:00 (twenty years ago)

Ian Matthews (or Iain, as he prefers) does a decent version of this song, but the Nico one is better.

― timmy tannin (pompous), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 02:10 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, I do have a copy of that, Tommy. There are a good dozen or so songs (it was bootlegged as a double LP) about the quality of the ones Nico did. Which is a lot! They do get a little samey, but I have a lot of affection for that stuff. It's just Jackson accompanying himself on acoustic guitar throughout.

― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 02:21 (twenty years ago)

I was thinking of the REM song from "Life's Rich Pageant." That's very good, by the way.

― Doctor Casino (Doctor Casino), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 04:00 (twenty years ago)

check out the greg allman version if you wanna get full on forlorn

― Quentin Chillentino, Tuesday, 16 May 2006 12:19 (twenty years ago)

I love the Paul Westerberg version, but I'm pretty sure I'm the only person on ILM who likes his solo stuff.

― p@reene (Pareene), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 12:56 (twenty years ago)

check out the greg allman version if you wanna get full on forlorn

Ditto Kate Wolf's version; hers kills Nico's (much as I like Nico's).

― Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 13:03 (twenty years ago)

Jane's Addiction?

― Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 13:04 (twenty years ago)

Except that that has a totally different title and I can't read.

― Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 13:06 (twenty years ago)

check out the greg allman version if you wanna get full on forlorn.

Ditto Kate Wolf's version; hers kills Nico's (much as I like Nico's).

But Terry Melcher's, with his MOM (Doris Day!) singing the death's door duet part, slays them all.

― Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 13:19 (twenty years ago)

i like the version lori carson did on golden palomino's "this is how it feels"

― kyle (akmonday), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 13:24 (twenty years ago)

nice Techmo version from Phantom/Ghost up here http://gabba.cc/

― Bidfurd (Bidfurd), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 13:38 (twenty years ago)

Mates of State recorded a version for the soundtrack to Wicker Park. I like it.

― James, Tuesday, 16 May 2006 13:42 (twenty years ago)

I need to hear that.

― Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 14:03 (twenty years ago)

I was too, Ned. (And it gets stuck in my head more than any other JD song.) I don't think I know the real deal.

― Sundar (sundar), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 14:22 (twenty years ago)

three years pass...

It's pretty rare I get to school some hardcore ILX0RZ but this is the original version of "these days":

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yKKdaRYJ4XM

Recorded in 66-67 when Browne was in the band, before he moved to NYC.

― (*゚ー゚)θ L(。・_・)   °~ヾ(・ε・ *) (Steve Shasta), Friday, 31 July 2009 18:27 (seventeen years ago)

also:
Jackson Browne - C or D?

― (*゚ー゚)θ L(。・_・)   °~ヾ(・ε・ *) (Steve Shasta), Friday, 31 July 2009 18:29 (seventeen years ago)

Wow, never heard this version... It's a great one I think.

― J4mi3 H4rl3y (Snowballing), Friday, 31 July 2009 18:33 (seventeen years ago)

wtf excellent find

― girlish in the worst sense of that term (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 31 July 2009 18:35 (seventeen years ago)

"Somebody's Baby" is cool. Punk sucks anyway!

― dave q

― velko, Friday, 31 July 2009 18:37 (seventeen years ago)

yeahhhh ... Tom Rush version is pretty ace too.

― tylerw, Friday, 31 July 2009 18:37 (seventeen years ago)

have always wanted to hear Simon & Garfunkel sing this ... or maybe even better, the Everly Bros. Have they done it? Seems like they could've.

― tylerw, Friday, 31 July 2009 18:39 (seventeen years ago)

Wait, this isn't about Joy Division? Yawn.

― Alex in NYC, Friday, 31 July 2009 18:48 (seventeen years ago)

wow, that version is great.

― dan selzer, Friday, 31 July 2009 18:50 (seventeen years ago)

Great song, suprised it never made it onto a This Mortal Coil album

― DJ Angoreinhardt (Billy Dods), Friday, 31 July 2009 20:12 (seventeen years ago)

five months pass...

One of the earlier versions (1970) is by Johnny Darrell, a country singer who had alienated everyone in Nashville and whose record label (UA) sent him out to L.A. to record. He picked up on some of the younger singer-songwriters there, and did versions of songs by Browne, Lowell George, etc. for a pretty great LP called "California Stop-Over." "These Days" is the opening track. If you want it, here it is: http://rapidshare.com/files/190570635/Darrell.zip

Still and all, Nico's version is hands down the best I've heard, thanks to her vocal and the John Cale (?) arrangement.

― figuratively, but in a very real way (amateurist), Thursday, 31 December 2009 18:04 (sixteen years ago)

still prefer the JB version to the Nico version

― Herodcare for the Unborn (J0hn D.), Thursday, 31 December 2009 18:34 (sixteen years ago)

damn, this song was ubiquitous in the early 70s. there are also versions on albums by tom rush, jennifer warnes, new grass revival....

― figuratively, but in a very real way (amateurist), Thursday, 31 December 2009 21:02 (sixteen years ago)

the terry melcher version is really over the top

― velko, Thursday, 31 December 2009 21:08 (sixteen years ago)

Ian Matthews version still my fave.

― ian, Friday, 1 January 2010 19:43 (sixteen years ago)

that terry melcher LP sort of sucks.

ian matthews's version, like all his records, is pretty.

― figuratively, but in a very real way (amateurist), Friday, 1 January 2010 21:55 (sixteen years ago)

yes, that terry melcher lp DOES kinda suck. glad i'm not alone in thinking that.

― ian, Saturday, 2 January 2010 05:59 (sixteen years ago)

The Rentals version is good.

― billstevejim, Saturday, 2 January 2010 06:01 (sixteen years ago)

Another person duped into thinking this was going to be about Joy Division.

― brotherlovesdub, Saturday, 2 January 2010 06:11 (sixteen years ago)

three months pass...

mates of state version sucks.

this one, however...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3iERA9gycLg

― by another name (amateurist), Thursday, 22 April 2010 07:27 (sixteen years ago)

Wow, this thread opens up a door to a parallel universe that turns out to be the real one.

― Blecch Generation (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 22 April 2010 10:49 (sixteen years ago)

one year passes...

could it be that jackson browne wrote his best songs before he had a record contract?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WzCD8YzDFD4

probably not, but still, i like this song a lot. the baroque-pop arrangement does it nice favors.

― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Tuesday, 25 October 2011 00:13 (fourteen years ago)

six months pass...

in general those early NGDB records are kind of great, but nobody seems to care. :(

― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Friday, 4 May 2012 23:07 (fourteen years ago)

yeah they kind of get forgotten for everything except Circle

― Jamie_ATP, Friday, 4 May 2012 23:25 (fourteen years ago)

karmic payback for naming themselves "The Nitty Gritty Dirt Band" I'm pretty sure

― cosi fan whitford (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Saturday, 5 May 2012 00:35 (fourteen years ago)

i wonder if The Beatles would have been as successful as they were if they were named "The Nitty Gritty Dirt Band."

― Pat Finn, Saturday, 5 May 2012 02:08 (fourteen years ago)

A couple of people mentioned the Tom Rush version, which I just bought last week:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6aJzQMtoOYU

Never knew about the Nitty Gritty Dirt Band--pleasingly different from all the others.

― clemenza, Saturday, 5 May 2012 04:17 (fourteen years ago)

i wonder if The Beatles would have been as successful as they were if they were named "The Nitty Gritty Dirt Band."

― Pat Finn, Friday, May 4, 2012 9:08 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

well, the flying burrito band is pretty well-loved even now and they have a really shitty name so

― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Saturday, 5 May 2012 05:00 (fourteen years ago)

the flying burrito brothers is a great name!! it's got the word 'burritos' in it!!!

― one dis leads to another (ian), Saturday, 5 May 2012 05:14 (fourteen years ago)

^^It's a Mexican Sandwich!

― Leslie Mann: Boner Machine (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 5 May 2012 05:22 (fourteen years ago)

good point about the flying burrito brothers. they're an interesting case because while their name is ridiculous and juvenile, their music is not, and that discrepancy isn't a big deal. and also when i think about it, the beatles isn't such a great name either. maybe what borges said of the titles of novels holds true for bands -- none of the great ones have good names.

― Pat Finn, Saturday, 5 May 2012 13:39 (fourteen years ago)

Joy Division

― Dr X O'Skeleton, Saturday, 5 May 2012 15:46 (fourteen years ago)

I agree that Joy Division is a great band with a good name. Borges's rule doesn't hold true for novels either. Nabokov's books always had great titles.

― Pat Finn, Sunday, 6 May 2012 00:20 (fourteen years ago)

seven months pass...

"She's a Lady," a '68 solo John Sebastian single on Kama Sutra, kind of has the Orange County vibe of this early Jackson stuff or Steve Noonan.

― timellison, Wednesday, 12 December 2012 03:21 (thirteen years ago)

Wikipedia article says Nitty Gritty Dirt Band (when Jackson was a member) opened for the Spoonful once.

― timellison, Wednesday, 12 December 2012 03:24 (thirteen years ago)

Also, I think Bridget St. John had this quality! "The Curious Crystals of Unusual Purity" on the first album is a good example.

― timellison, Tuesday, 18 December 2012 02:28 (thirteen years ago)

eleven years pass...

There's probably a thread for this, but I'd place "These Days" alongside "After the Gold Rush" (or maybe it's "Only Love Can Break Your Heart") as a song that it's impossible to cover badly. I've heard at least seven or eight versions of "These Days," and they're all good to great. Latest: St. Vincent's.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vxQs84FMWQ

― clemenza, Saturday, 17 February 2024 19:02 (two years ago)

And Nectarine No. 9:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3fg2y_pgXuU

― henry s, Saturday, 17 February 2024 19:18 (two years ago)

As much as I like St. Vincent and Kate Wolf, neither hold a candle to Nico.

Will enjoy checking out the other versions!!

― BriefCandles, Saturday, 17 February 2024 23:41 (two years ago)

Weirdly, I heard Browne's 1973 LP version (having never knowingly done so before) at the same time as this revive. Spooky.

― Nag! Nag! Nag!, Sunday, 18 February 2024 00:30 (two years ago)

Julie Byrne's recent version is really lovely: https://juliembyrne.bandcamp.com/track/these-days

― ernestp, Monday, 19 February 2024 02:06 (two years ago)

to write an enduring masterpiece as a teenager, incredible

I'd place it alongside "Both Sides Now" as a song that's so masterfully crafted that I can't really fathom how young the composers were at the time

― corrs unplugged, Monday, 19 February 2024 09:45 (two years ago)

I started a thread on that subject a couple of years ago:

You Can't Be 20: Old-Person Songs by Young People

― clemenza, Monday, 19 February 2024 10:31 (two years ago)

nice!

― corrs unplugged, Monday, 19 February 2024 11:35 (two years ago)

I'm a huge fan of the Gregg Allman version mentioned upthread

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fXMcn3Oupug

― Indexed, Tuesday, 20 February 2024 17:18 (two years ago)

Here's a list of 74 covers from SecondHandSongs:

https://secondhandsongs.com/work/56904/versions#nav-entity

I said I'd heard seven or eight; eight now, including two on this thread after I posted. Cher covered it in '75, which I assume was prompted by her then husband's cover above.

― clemenza, Tuesday, 20 February 2024 17:51 (two years ago)

Seven versions before Jackson Browne got around to recording it.

― clemenza, Tuesday, 20 February 2024 17:52 (two years ago)

interesting how Allman changes "I had not forgotten them" which suits Nico's voice perfectly to the more straightforward "I'm aware of them", great little edit

― corrs unplugged, Wednesday, 21 February 2024 08:43 (two years ago)

two years pass...

Now that’s songwriting!

― coffee-themed romance ads (Eazy), Sunday, 7 June 2026 07:08 (four months ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcbQmImWo3I

― coffee-themed romance ads (Eazy), Sunday, 7 June 2026 07:15 (four months ago)

as strong a songwriter as we'll ever see

that cover art belongs in one of those cover art threads

― corrs unplugged, Monday, 8 June 2026 09:46 (four months ago)

Haha, I hadn't even looked at that cover closely enough to make sense of it. Love how no one would see that and think they're buying this gorgeous "These Days."

― coffee-themed romance ads (Eazy), Monday, 8 June 2026 17:38 (four months ago)

nice version

"I don't do too much talkin' these days" - DAC, perhaps telling the biggest lie ever sung lol

― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 8 June 2026 17:42 (four months ago)


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