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I can't believe they went back to their old sound. I'm sure it won't work but finally got my hands on a copy and listening to now. Is it as bad as I think it is?

― BeeOK (boo radley), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 00:50 (nineteen years ago)

their old sound

Uh...which? And whose was it originally?

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 00:56 (nineteen years ago)

Sweet Christmas, that's a terrible cover.

― Telephonething (Telephonething), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 00:58 (nineteen years ago)

None of the tracks sound like the stones anyway. The tunes aren't too bad but the lyrics are quite embarrassing. Bobby's just raided his fave old records and stolen the lyrics (just like the old days).

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 01:01 (nineteen years ago)

Apart from that it's still not as bad as I feared. But...theyre capable of so much better. Throb isn't in the band anymore is he?

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 01:02 (nineteen years ago)

Throb isn't in the band anymore is he?

Whoa, that's nuts. I figured he'd be there until the bitter end.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 01:04 (nineteen years ago)

I think he is 'resting'.

― lil' merzbow wow (haitch), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 01:11 (nineteen years ago)

Well according to the Sunday Mail review of a gig they had a guitarist replacing him. They didn't mention yer man Shields either.
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― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 01:12 (nineteen years ago)

from that james brown article in the guardian last month that everyone laughed at:

'Lead guitarist Robert Young (known as 'Throbert') is not playing live with the band right now. 'You will understand where Robert is, James,' says Gillespie. 'He has some personal problems and he's dealing with them. He did play amazingly on the album - he can get a tune out of anything.'

― lil' merzbow wow (haitch), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 01:18 (nineteen years ago)

I can't get excited about this album in any way. I haven't felt the need to listen to "Give Out But Don't Give Up" in over a decade.

― NoTimeBeforeTime (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 01:19 (nineteen years ago)

I haven't felt the need to listen to "Give Out But Don't Give Up" ~~in over a decade.~~

There, better.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 01:21 (nineteen years ago)

...b-b-but, 'rocks'!

;_;

― lil' merzbow wow (haitch), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 01:24 (nineteen years ago)

they should have stuck to the bleeps and bloops.

― Christopher Costello (CGC), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 01:43 (nineteen years ago)

This album was never gonna get any ILM love was it?

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 01:44 (nineteen years ago)

This album is way way better than their last cd of Stones ripoffs.Is it as good as their krautrock rips.I think it's as good as their last album where the electronics were starting to sound tired.I still think Exterminator is their most striking album.Still nice to see a band that doesn't feel compelled to stick to the same old sound on each album.For better or for worse.

― evan chronister (evan chronister), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 01:52 (nineteen years ago)

Uh...which?

No they haven't went back to their first album sounds for 60's flower pop that was Sonic Flower Groove. This is more in line with Give Out… or their second self titled album. Though it's not as dark as the later album and trying to keep an open mind regarding this album because it is Primal Scream.

― BeeOK (boo radley), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 02:15 (nineteen years ago)

This album sucks, why should I ever play it again...so sad. The only song that I liked was "Little Death" but the rest isn't even as good as some of their other bad stuff, sure it's a matter of opinion.

― BeeOK (boo radley), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 06:20 (nineteen years ago)

I can't get excited about this album in any way.

Me neither. But I like the cover (nice font too).

― Omar (Omar), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 06:28 (nineteen years ago)

if they're so intro Detroit they should cover "Stormtroopin'", now is not the time to stop being 'political'

― dave q (listerine), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 07:33 (nineteen years ago)

As opposed to when they did "Bomb The Pentagon" and then the hijackers, er, bombed the Pentagon?

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 07:41 (nineteen years ago)

i'm too conflicted to post.

― the confusing situation Enrique currently endures (Enrique), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 08:15 (nineteen years ago)

The cover is totally pedertastic!

― Shoes say, yeah, no hands clap your good bra. (goodbra), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 09:52 (nineteen years ago)

I don't think I can cope with this.

I think it's time to say goodbye to teenage dreams.

― I Was Wrong, That Don't Mean You Were Right (kate), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 09:54 (nineteen years ago)

'Primal Scream' in Century Gothic font says it all.

― Konal Doddz (blueski), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 10:00 (nineteen years ago)

it says 'primal scream'.

― the confusing situation Enrique currently endures (Enrique), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 10:02 (nineteen years ago)

precisely

― Konal Doddz (blueski), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 10:04 (nineteen years ago)

who's actually heard it though?

there seeme to be a distinct lack of review style content on here thus far. i mean, you know, what are the tunes like?

love the single.

― pisces (piscesx), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 10:15 (nineteen years ago)

it has a shit title.

it has a shit single.

― the confusing situation Enrique currently endures (Enrique), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 10:16 (nineteen years ago)

It sounds like Head, Hands and Feet trying to be Foghat.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 10:16 (nineteen years ago)

i totally get those references.

― the confusing situation Enrique currently endures (Enrique), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 10:18 (nineteen years ago)

The song is bad enough, but the heroically excuciating video is the piece de resistance.

― Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 10:19 (nineteen years ago)

As someone who hated their '90s Rolling Stones rips and quite enjoyed their last two electronic ventures, I am still digging this one. Haven't paid too much attention to the lyrics, which may be a good thing...

― Matt Carlson (mattsoncarlhew), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 11:20 (nineteen years ago)

Its nowhere near as bad as some are making out on here. It's better than dong give.... Honest!

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 12:02 (nineteen years ago)

What's the video like?

XTRMNTR is their masterpiece for me, with Screamadelica and Vanishing Point not oo far behind. Evil Heat now seems almost like a record made on autopilot - I quite liked it at the time though. The mid-90s Stones rips I can do without.

I've heard the single so far which I thought was pleasantly bizarre (in the sense that for PS it was unexpected). Slide guitar to dance to that's not The Mavericks. I have the album downloaded but haven't listened yet.

Who produced? I heard they'd recorded a load of stuff with Youth but then a rumour was that they'd scrapped it?

Listening to the Scream for lyrics is like listening to Dylan for beats, right?

― Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 12:07 (nineteen years ago)

there was a big beat element to dylan... oh, right.

― the confusing situation Enrique currently endures (Enrique), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 12:10 (nineteen years ago)

I think I agree with all nick says.

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 12:42 (nineteen years ago)

i actually own only three primal scream albums.

― the confusing situation Enrique currently endures (Enrique), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 13:18 (nineteen years ago)

Listening to the Scream for lyrics is like listening to Dylan for beats, right?

Which is why one of the most hilarious things I have is the Japanese pressing of the PS live album - it comes with a lyrics sheet!

― LOL Thomas (Chris Barrus), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 15:51 (nineteen years ago)

I don't think y'all are listening to it quite LOUD enough. Try again.

― idontlikewords, Tuesday, 16 May 2006 17:53 (nineteen years ago)

If I listened to this thing any louder (if I ever listen to it again) I'd have to endure Gillespie's ridiculous lyrics--though it's hardly fair to call them "his"--all over again. And I won't do that.

I love Xtrmntr, but this is just well and truly awful. The fact that it might actually sound pretty good if Kevin Shields came along and made noise all over it tells me all I need to know...what I should've known before.

― dark horse, Tuesday, 16 May 2006 18:09 (nineteen years ago)

I think I agree with all nick says.

absolutely. sums it up perfectly for me.

all this chat about "give out ..." makes me wish i could find the thread where i shared the story about bobby gillespie and my mate. but i can't. and i'm fucked if i'm typing it out again.

― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 21:11 (nineteen years ago)

What is the general consensus for best Primal Scream record?

― kornrulez6969 (TCBeing), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 21:47 (nineteen years ago)

XTRMNTR or Screamadelica probably

Ill take Vanishing Point personally though

― splates (splates), Thursday, 18 May 2006 01:14 (nineteen years ago)

this is one of the worst songs i've heard.

― jed_ (jed), Thursday, 18 May 2006 01:19 (nineteen years ago)

Ha ha ha, they do Country Girl on the Woss Show and look like The Pretenders trying to rock it up a little for the encore! Bobby even has Chrissie Hynde's hairstyle and tambourine wrist action!

― Momus (Momus), Thursday, 18 May 2006 01:25 (nineteen years ago)

What a load of rubbish.

― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Thursday, 18 May 2006 07:26 (nineteen years ago)

Vanishing Point is my favourite, as I'd completely given up on them by that time (& I'd been a fan since All Fall Down), my new gf (now my wife of 5 years) had it & it got me hooked on them again. I liked the lowkey aspect of it, the King Tubby Meets Suicide thing, the visuals, BG's distorted vocals (always a bonus) & Brendan Lynch's production (what's he done since?). It seemed more cohesive than Screamadelica & by XTRMNTR it had all got a bit overblown.

― bham (bham), Thursday, 18 May 2006 08:01 (nineteen years ago)

*aghast* @ Jonathan Ross show performance. his singing sounds a bit like the whining i was doing a couple of days ago when i had a cold and no-one was paying me any attention.

― jed_ (jed), Thursday, 18 May 2006 08:18 (nineteen years ago)

this is the crux of it, the scream would be miles better if gillespie, throb, and fuck it, why not innes, all left the band.

― the confusing situation Enrique currently endures (Enrique), Thursday, 18 May 2006 08:20 (nineteen years ago)

As a public service, I actually tracked down the thread with the Bobby G story alluded to by mr Fiendish: do people still, like, FAP these days?

I didn't see the Woss one, but their performance on that dismal Album Chart Show programme on Channel 4 was fittingly dismal. Country Girl was pretty poor, but the album track they played directly after (Something to do with a bomb dropping int' title) was really, really poor. Poor in a not even worth the effort of tracking down on youtube to laugh at sense!

― M Carty (mj_c), Thursday, 18 May 2006 08:37 (nineteen years ago)

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Law of averages, Dada?

I'd love that Japanese More Dirty Hits.

― Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Friday, 26 May 2006 09:34 (nineteen years ago)

Either that or it's all those free jazz records I made him listen to back in the Bothwell days.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Friday, 26 May 2006 09:35 (nineteen years ago)

Where Is (Jim) Beattie Band?

― Samuel KB Amphong (Dada), Friday, 26 May 2006 09:36 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.cduniverse.com/search/xx/music/pid/6667913/a/Shoot+Speed+(more+Dirty+Hits).htm

― mark grout (mark grout), Friday, 26 May 2006 09:36 (nineteen years ago)

this is the crux of it, the scream would be miles better if gillespie, throb, and fuck it, why not innes, all left the band.
-- the confusing situation Enrique currently endures (miltonpinsk...), May 18th, 2006.

― Enrique IX: The Mediator (Enrique), Friday, 26 May 2006 09:37 (nineteen years ago)

I remember (Jim) Beattie Band back in Storky's garage in '79. BG yelling and JB banging a big Corporation bin. Best thing they ever did.

Perhaps if Neil Innes joined Primal Scream...

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Friday, 26 May 2006 09:39 (nineteen years ago)

nick, i think we should do the next primal scream album. it'll have a slow intro and everything.

― Enrique IX: The Mediator (Enrique), Friday, 26 May 2006 09:40 (nineteen years ago)

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― Samuel KB Amphong (Dada), Friday, 26 May 2006 09:41 (nineteen years ago)

I wondered what had happened to Ben Benison Out Of Vision On and The In-And-Out, Up-And-Down, Roundabout Man!

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Friday, 26 May 2006 09:43 (nineteen years ago)

yeah 'MORE ..DIRTY HITS'

http://www.cduniverse.com/search/xx/music/pid/6667913/a/Shoot+Speed-More+Dirty+Hits.htm

― pisces (piscesx), Friday, 26 May 2006 09:58 (nineteen years ago)

I just ordered it for £15 via Caiman USA via Amazon.co.uk.

― Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Friday, 26 May 2006 10:03 (nineteen years ago)

"Darklands"?

― mark grout (mark grout), Friday, 26 May 2006 10:04 (nineteen years ago)

Cover - b-side of the Arkestra EP.

― Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Friday, 26 May 2006 10:07 (nineteen years ago)

surely you have all those songs nick?

― Enrique IX: The Mediator (Enrique), Friday, 26 May 2006 10:09 (nineteen years ago)

i think i have all the ones i want anyway.

― Enrique IX: The Mediator (Enrique), Friday, 26 May 2006 10:10 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, I do pretty much, but not the 7" edits, Velocity Girl (apart from scratchy MP3, anyway) or some of the b-sides. Besides, it was my birthday last week!

1. When The Kingdom Comes
2. Star
3. Velocity Girl
4. Ivy Ivy Ivy
5. City (Album Version)
6. Don't Fight It, Feel It (7'edit)
7. Medication
8. All Fall Down
9. Come Together (7" Version)
10. Screamadelica
11. So Sad About Us
12. Revenge Of The Hammond Connection
13. I'm Losing More Than I'll Ever Have
14. Gentle Tuesday
15. Mbv Arkestra (If They Move Kill Em)
16. Darklands
17. Imperial
18. Jesus

― Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Friday, 26 May 2006 10:13 (nineteen years ago)

i haven't heard ANY of their pre-'loaded/ILMTIEH' stuff and have NEVER WANTED TO.

― Enrique IX: The Mediator (Enrique), Friday, 26 May 2006 10:22 (nineteen years ago)

It is very melodics.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Friday, 26 May 2006 10:27 (nineteen years ago)

Bobby Gillespie carries a tune in a bucket on them.

(OK, no he doesn't)

― mark grout (mark grout), Friday, 26 May 2006 10:29 (nineteen years ago)

Their 2 Peel seesions from this time far exceded anything on record. The second one (Leaves, Bewitched & Bewildered, I Love You) was pretty perfect as far as the whole Byrds/Lovein' Spoonful thing weent.

― bham (bham), Friday, 26 May 2006 11:00 (nineteen years ago)

in defence of the petri dish i like that bit about taxi drivers and richard ashcroft
...but i see he misses the reference in the quoted song lines
"I feel like Christ on the cross with a loaded gun!

let's see which ILM-er is fastest off the mark..

― pisces (piscesx), Friday, 26 May 2006 11:43 (nineteen years ago)

You mean who is Bobby Gillespie stealing from this tiem?

― No Ring Goes Like a Ringo Goes (Dada), Friday, 26 May 2006 11:51 (nineteen years ago)

is it taTu?

― Enrique IX: The Mediator (Enrique), Friday, 26 May 2006 11:53 (nineteen years ago)

http://jaime.net/jamc/images/April_skies_2x7V_front.jpg

― Onimo (GerryNemo), Friday, 26 May 2006 11:59 (nineteen years ago)

'i fell like a kid with a snake round my neck'

― Enrique IX: The Mediator (Enrique), Friday, 26 May 2006 12:03 (nineteen years ago)

Nope, he's standing up on that picture up top.

― mark grout (mark grout), Friday, 26 May 2006 12:46 (nineteen years ago)

I liked "Country Girl" much better the first time when it was called "Fat-Bottomed Girls"

― PB, Friday, 26 May 2006 14:29 (nineteen years ago)

.. or when Brinsley Schwarz did it?

― mark grout (mark grout), Friday, 26 May 2006 14:32 (nineteen years ago)

Hee hee hee!

― Momus (Momus), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 18:56 (nineteen years ago)

brutal

― Chris Bee (Cee Bee), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 19:44 (nineteen years ago)

I read somewhere that Will Sergeant is on this new album.

Is this a good thing?

― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 06:51 (nineteen years ago)

What did NME give the album?

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 07:18 (nineteen years ago)

Will is on the album. He's also in his 40s.

― Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 07:19 (nineteen years ago)

From the Pitchfork review Momus links to:
"1994's Give Out But Don't Give Up was the first time he humped the desiccated corpse of garage-blues"
Surely the 2nd album (Primal Scream) was the first time?

― bham (bham), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 08:27 (nineteen years ago)

No such errors in my review at Stylus.

― Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 08:29 (nineteen years ago)

already going for £4 in the MVE bargain basement!

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 08:35 (nineteen years ago)

it's "poets laureate" tho nick ;)

― Enrique IX: The Mediator (Enrique), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 08:35 (nineteen years ago)

"Nitty Gritty" is straight up circa-2003 garage-rock pastiche; it shoots for the Stones and ends up with the Datsuns.

This is an egregious insult to The Datsuns.

― jed_ (jed), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 10:09 (nineteen years ago)

Who?

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 10:21 (nineteen years ago)

Since Nick is too modest to link to his Stylus review, I will.

The only thing I'd disagree with is the "file under shite" last line. There's a lot of good stuff filed under shite.

― Momus (Momus), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 11:07 (nineteen years ago)

haha!

i missed that - hats off to Onimo.

― pisces (piscesx), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 12:51 (nineteen years ago)

seven months pass...

Godlike Geniuses:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/6music/news/20070202_primals.shtml

― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Friday, 2 February 2007 12:49 (nineteen years ago)

apparently, he plays music really loud sometimes, the big hypocrite.

― the original hauntology blogging crew (Enrique), Friday, 2 February 2007 12:51 (nineteen years ago)

nme's conor mcfucktard:

All our bands love them and after 24 years they've just had their biggest ever hit ('Country Girl' got to Number Five last year)."

lol "biggest ever hit" @ nr5. metaphor for the pitiful failure of britishes indie musick, maybe.

― Pashmina (Pashmina), Friday, 2 February 2007 12:53 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/6music/news/media/060509_pr_gillespie_125.jpg http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3/3f/Richard_d_james_album_cover.jpg

― fandango (fandango), Friday, 2 February 2007 12:54 (nineteen years ago)

NAH, conor is simply zach braff gone wrong. there was a student careers handbook (to which he submitted an entry) which proved this beyond all reasonable doubt.

― to scour or to pop? (Haberdager), Friday, 2 February 2007 13:12 (nineteen years ago)

oh wait, that's a picture of bobby, not conor. my point stands.

― to scour or to pop? (Haberdager), Friday, 2 February 2007 13:13 (nineteen years ago)

your point was in relation to the picture??

― fandango (fandango), Friday, 2 February 2007 13:17 (nineteen years ago)

please, don't wallow in my shame

instead, have a picture of conor which PROVES my point:

http://www.ipcmedia.com/imageBank/c/conor%20mcnicholas%20apr%2006%20.jpg

ZACH. BRAFF. GONE. WRONG.

― to scour or to pop? (Haberdager), Friday, 2 February 2007 13:20 (nineteen years ago)

Needs more coke, about ten years worth should get the required creepiness.

― fandango (fandango), Friday, 2 February 2007 13:22 (nineteen years ago)

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