Recommend for me records from the early '70s that sound similar to NEW MORNING

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Bob Dylan's New Morning is one of my favorite albums. It's pretty singular in terms of songwriting, lyrics, etc., so what I'm looking for here is simply something that has a similar sound -- similar instrumentation, dash of blues, dash of country, dash of honky tonk, a casual ease, rolling piano, organ, '70s guitar flourishes. The Basement Tapes are kindred spirits to this sort of thing. So, obviously the Band albums, American Beauty perhaps, "All Things Must Pass", stuff like this. Recommendations please, above or below the radar.

Also: side note - My New Morning CD plays at very low volume, I have to crank it to really hear it, (got the vinyl, too and it's full and fine), is this just the mastering on the version that I've got? Anyone have similar complaints?

mcd (mcd), Thursday, 25 May 2006 20:00 (nineteen years ago)

The first Jerry Garcia solo record, I think it's called Garcia. The one with Sugaree, Deal and The Wheel.

kornrulez6969 (TCBeing), Thursday, 25 May 2006 20:05 (nineteen years ago)

http://theband.hiof.no/band_pictures/bobby_charles.jpg

Co-produced by Rick Danko and John Simon, Bobby Charles was the perfect marriage between the good-time Danko side of the Band and Bobby Charles Guidry's own swampy cajun roots. On the opening "Street People", Bobby sounded like a Bowery version of Randy Newman; on "Long Face", he was a bayou Lee Dorsey. Behind him Rick put together a wonderfully loose sound somewhere between the Muscle Shoals Swampers and the band Allen Toussaint had used for his great Minit productions in the '60s. With guest appearances by Garth, Levon, and Richard, as well as Mac Rebennack and Woodstock guitar maestro Amos Garret, it was certainly a far more enjoyable record than Cahoots.
-- Barney Hoskyns, Across the Great Divide

jäxøñ (jaxon), Thursday, 25 May 2006 20:08 (nineteen years ago)

The mastering on my New Morning CD is pretty weak too.

Similar sound, hmm... Flying Burrito Brothers?

o. nate (onate), Thursday, 25 May 2006 20:09 (nineteen years ago)

Sounds like it needs some shit-hot mondo compression ;-)

Mark (MarkR), Thursday, 25 May 2006 20:11 (nineteen years ago)

Gene Clark's White Light CD is top shelf. This is what you need if you are digging New Morning. It's the freaks on ILM that actually got me into Gene Clark.

QuantumNoise (Justin Farrar), Thursday, 25 May 2006 20:11 (nineteen years ago)

The Bobby Charles self-titled record is great. A little mellower than what you're looking for, maybe.

Seems like there are a couple threads on the "Country Got Soul" compilation that might be useful to you, I'd search for that.

Wow, helluva x-post

Billy Pilgrim (Billy Pilgrim), Thursday, 25 May 2006 20:13 (nineteen years ago)

this might sorta fit what you're looking for
Can we talk about early-mid70s West Coast post-psych/pop/rock/folk-rock/country-rock?

jäxøñ (jaxon), Thursday, 25 May 2006 20:13 (nineteen years ago)

Any of the Michael Nesmith solo albums are must-haves for this sound.

Billy Pilgrim (Billy Pilgrim), Thursday, 25 May 2006 20:14 (nineteen years ago)

or this Country Funk?

xpost - yeah, those nesmith albums are killer

jäxøñ (jaxon), Thursday, 25 May 2006 20:15 (nineteen years ago)

A band that I just got turned onto from reading this forum is Little Feat. I won't necessarily say the lyrics are Band-like, but the music sure is (to me anyhow).

shorty (shorty), Thursday, 25 May 2006 20:15 (nineteen years ago)

Doug Sahm and Band!

Keith C (lync0), Thursday, 25 May 2006 20:17 (nineteen years ago)

or this Country Funk?

Yeah that's the one. I've even got an orphaned little post at the end of it. Was I the only one that was massivley disappointed with that Dirty Laundry comp? Still a great cover though.

Billy Pilgrim (Billy Pilgrim), Thursday, 25 May 2006 20:19 (nineteen years ago)

These are all excellent suggestions. EXACTLY the kind of stuff I'm looking for. I almost mentioned If I Could Only Remember My Name in the first post, but there's something loopier about the West Coast country/psych/pop/rock then this Dylan album & the stuff with the band, not sure I can put my finger on it though. Definitely keep 'em coming, thanks.

mcd (mcd), Thursday, 25 May 2006 20:26 (nineteen years ago)

Don Everly's "Sunset Towers" is fanfuckingtastic

jäxøñ (jaxon), Thursday, 25 May 2006 20:38 (nineteen years ago)

David Bromberg, maybe? "Wanted Dead or Alive" is great but goofy, think that's '74 or so. The early Joe Ely records could fit in here too, but they are from later in the decade. And definitely get the first Little Feat album if you don't have it, so killer.

Keith C (lync0), Thursday, 25 May 2006 20:44 (nineteen years ago)

A band that I just got turned onto from reading this forum is Little Feat.

Fuckin-A-right. I have been listening to Little Feat's debut non-stop. As with New Morning, buy the vinyl instead of that crappy CD, which has yet to be remastered. The viny sounds great. It's like a West Coast fusion of Burritos, the Band, and Exile on Main Street.

The original Flatlanders disc is classic if a bit on the old timey, string band side of things.

QuantumNoise (Justin Farrar), Thursday, 25 May 2006 20:46 (nineteen years ago)

Oh shit, sorry to sound bossy, but John Prine's debut is exactly what yer looking for, I believe.

QuantumNoise (Justin Farrar), Thursday, 25 May 2006 20:49 (nineteen years ago)

Oh shit, sorry to sound bossy, but John Prine's debut is exactly what yer looking for, I believe, as well as the first two Steve Young records.

QuantumNoise (Justin Farrar), Thursday, 25 May 2006 20:49 (nineteen years ago)

I just ebayed a bunch of these, probably paying too much. I feel like with some patience a lot of these are dollar bin records aren't they? I want that Bobby Charles record, but it's just available as an expensive import, looks like. Thanks again for all the tips.

mcd (mcd), Friday, 26 May 2006 15:16 (nineteen years ago)

Maybe not dollar bin but locatable for a reaonable sum with some digging.

mcd (mcd), Friday, 26 May 2006 15:20 (nineteen years ago)

John Prine's debut is always pretty darn cheap; don't pay more than $5/$6 for it. And that first Little Feat is kinda hard to locate, but it's always under $10.

It's funny this thread has popped up because I've been in this mood lately. I want to hear modern underground music that channels the kind of stuff we've been talking about instead of the Incredible String Band and Vashti, which I love. But man, the stuff we are talking about here has been sounding just great. I have listened to that Prine record all week, which hasn't left my record stacks in years.

On a different note, if you dig some country then jump on over to the Haggard thread because the Hag was a pivotal inspiration on the West Coast rural/country rock sound. He influenced the Byrds, Burritos, Dead, Everlys, etc. His take on the Bakersfield sound is minimal and really quite expansive capturing that wide open feeling of California.

QuantumNoise (Justin Farrar), Friday, 26 May 2006 15:38 (nineteen years ago)

I hear ya. Beachwood Sparks did the whole Byrds/Burritos thing, but just didn't hit on the same gut level. The Vetiver album (which I've not heard) apparently has a West Coast vibe to it. (Also, yeah, I love Merle Haggard.)

The Dylan album isn't as distinctly 'country' as a lot of these other bands. It feels descendent of a kind of cosmopolitan blues/honky tonk. Again, I don't know if I'm making any sense but the feel of the Dylan record as opposed to the West Coast stuff is different, less spacey. Don't get me wrong, I put American Beauty in the first post and I love the Byrds and all this, kindred spirits, just felt it necessary to make a distinction. Maybe putting too fine a point on it.

mcd (mcd), Friday, 26 May 2006 16:46 (nineteen years ago)

New Morning is kinda tricky to match up because it doesn't fit in any one genre very well. I like almost all of the suggestions people have made here (and on the other thread too), but it's hard to say they're exactly what you asked for. Anyway, let me nominate, or send the nomination of the first Dillard & Clark album. Lovely, a real treat. Thinking about the songs on New Morning, maybe you should try Nilsson Sings Newman? That's a great record, but not very country, of course.

Billy Pilgrim (Billy Pilgrim), Friday, 26 May 2006 17:05 (nineteen years ago)

(*second* not *send* the nomination)

Billy Pilgrim (Billy Pilgrim), Friday, 26 May 2006 17:06 (nineteen years ago)

The Dylan album isn't as distinctly 'country' as a lot of these other bands. It feels descendent of a kind of cosmopolitan blues/honky tonk

OTM. The Dylan New Morning sound has more Chicago blues in it, more Paul Butterfield Blues Band, more of a roadside juke-joint sound, than those spacey West Coast country albums do.

o. nate (onate), Friday, 26 May 2006 17:08 (nineteen years ago)

Sir Douglas Quintet's 'Mendocino' keeps popping into my mind while reading this thread, but I have to admit that I'm not familiar with New Morning.

Tripmaker (SDWitzm), Friday, 26 May 2006 17:15 (nineteen years ago)

I was gonna mention Nilsson but I didn't want a deluge of caberet or Boz Scaggs albums or something! I love Aerial Ballet and Nilsson Schmilsson, though, and he definitely did some more rock/country type stuff that borrows from tradition the way Dylan does. Nice suggestion.

mcd (mcd), Friday, 26 May 2006 17:17 (nineteen years ago)

I love how they put locust sound effects on "Day of the Locusts"

Anyway, probably goes without saying that Greetings From Asbury Park fits the bill

Billy Pilgrim (Billy Pilgrim), Friday, 26 May 2006 17:24 (nineteen years ago)

What about some of Al Kooper's projects, like Blood, Sweat and Tears? Do they sound anything like New Morning?

o. nate (onate), Friday, 26 May 2006 17:41 (nineteen years ago)

Or maybe even some of Eric Clapton's early stuff?

o. nate (onate), Friday, 26 May 2006 17:53 (nineteen years ago)

Randy's 12 Songs and Joni's For the Roses?

gabbneb (gabbneb), Friday, 26 May 2006 17:57 (nineteen years ago)

Savoy Brown? I heaven't heard them in years, though, so that could just be the memory talking.

Tracey Hand (tracerhand), Friday, 26 May 2006 17:58 (nineteen years ago)

Also, check out everything by Ricky Lee Jones ever!

Tracey Hand (tracerhand), Friday, 26 May 2006 17:58 (nineteen years ago)

I don't know about the rest of these guys, but I try to pretend like Eric Clapton never happened. No, I don't think early Clapton sounds like Dylan. Can't tell you much about BS&T. My dad was a big fan of one of the earlier albums and I never liked it. The first album is supposed to be great.

xpost

Billy Pilgrim (Billy Pilgrim), Friday, 26 May 2006 17:59 (nineteen years ago)

Especially Jones' cover of Hendrix's "Up From the Skies"

xpost

Tracey Hand (tracerhand), Friday, 26 May 2006 18:00 (nineteen years ago)

john Phillips - John, Wolfking of L.A. ??

Will (will), Friday, 26 May 2006 18:02 (nineteen years ago)

John Prine

gabbneb (gabbneb), Friday, 26 May 2006 18:07 (nineteen years ago)

you might consider anything by Townes Van Zandt, from the same era...

hank (hank s), Friday, 26 May 2006 18:42 (nineteen years ago)

I guess this is as good enough of a thread as any to ask if anybody has heard this jam. It sounds like it could be just great.

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QuantumNoise (Justin Farrar), Saturday, 27 May 2006 22:30 (nineteen years ago)

the mungo jerry lp with "in the summertime" has a similar feel.

helix aspersa (Jody Beth Rosen), Saturday, 27 May 2006 22:35 (nineteen years ago)

Karen Dalton's In My Own Time, if you can find it.
Deeply moving and relaxed.

Mats Blomqvist (Blomqvist), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 07:45 (nineteen years ago)

I listened to this again over the weekend, and I noticed that a big part of the sound is Dylan's block chords on the piano and the way that Kooper plays off that on the organ. It has more of a gospel/soul feeling to it.

o. nate (onate), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 17:40 (nineteen years ago)

A little more folky, but that first Jesse Winchester album that Robertson produced is nice.

Chuck B, Tuesday, 30 May 2006 18:20 (nineteen years ago)

I haven't heard these albums in years, so my memory may be playing tricks on me, but I think that the '70s Keith Green albums are in a similar vein of piano-driven folk-pop with a gospel feel. The lyrics are pure CCM though. Dylan actually plays harmonica on So You Wanna Go Back to Egypt. (I think Green was a buddy of his during his Christian phase.)

o. nate (onate), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 18:28 (nineteen years ago)

nine months pass...
SEARCH the Willis Alan Ramsey record. a goddamn stunner of an LP. seriously.

did anyone see the 'classic albums' show on vh1 about the second Band record? fantastic. I've been looking for those clips of them in the barn on youtube but they're never on there. also, I could be wrong but it appeared when John Simon was at the mixing console (and also from what Robbie said) that Levon played the drum part on 'cripple creek' and cut the vocal at the same time...pretty sicky, eh?

Johnny Hotcox, Tuesday, 27 March 2007 02:38 (nineteen years ago)

four months pass...

I just started spinning the Mother Earth/Tracy Nelson LP from '72. It features three of Bobby Charles' tunes, and has a nice, woody feel like New Morning.

QuantumNoise, Tuesday, 14 August 2007 14:30 (eighteen years ago)

The self-titled album by the band Relatively Clean Rivers. Jeff Tweedy has talked them up in recent interviews, it's right in line with the other records on this thread.

kornrulez6969, Tuesday, 14 August 2007 15:09 (eighteen years ago)

I picked up that Bobby Charles a few weeks ago but haven't really given it time to sink in. I wanted to like it a lot more than I did after the first spin.

will, Tuesday, 14 August 2007 16:33 (eighteen years ago)

I was in the Music and Video Exchange in Camden the other day, and they were playing this record which I was darned sure was Souled American, except no Souled American record I'd ever heard. so then some dude went up and asked what it was, and it was that Bobby Charles record! I couldn't believe it. It really did sound alike. Vocals and instrumentation and rhythms and everything. I gotta hear it again...

Michael Dudikoff presents Action Adventure Theatre, Tuesday, 14 August 2007 16:54 (eighteen years ago)

I picked up that Bobby Charles a few weeks ago but haven't really given it time to sink in. I wanted to like it a lot more than I did after the first spin.

Give it some time. It will pay off. The Souled American comparison is dead on. Beneath Charles' New Orleans roots music is a lite-psych haze. The instruments amble and stutter like town drunkards. Some of the horn parts blur the line between dixieland and avant-roots weirdness.

QuantumNoise, Tuesday, 14 August 2007 16:59 (eighteen years ago)

Yeah, I was also thinking they had a drunken-ness to 'em too.

Also, is anyone familiar with that Head Hands and Feet album? Albert Lee plays on it, and I've been curious about it since stumbling across it in the shop. Only thing that puts me off is that one of Chas & Dave plays on it too, which might not mean much to non-Brits/non-Viz readers.

Michael Dudikoff presents Action Adventure Theatre, Tuesday, 14 August 2007 17:23 (eighteen years ago)

one year passes...

I stumbled across the perfect record for this thread: Geoff and Maria Muldaur's Pottery Pie LP. It's either from 1967 or 1970. Joe Boyd produced it. It surprisingly hard to find. It has that soulful, Woodstock-home-recording vibe. But the arrangements are woozy and well spaced, kind of like Bobby Charles or early Ry Cooder. It's roots music, yet there's a kind of dreaminess to the whole thing. Great album! Interesting note: The version of "Brazil" used in Gilliam's movie is the one on this album. Dude has great taste.

QuantumNoise, Friday, 9 January 2009 15:18 (seventeen years ago)

Self (muthafuckin) Portrait.

I'm frontin' for it, one side at a time.

staggerlee, Saturday, 10 January 2009 01:51 (seventeen years ago)


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