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By JOHN WRAY
Published: May 28, 2006

You might have been excused, if you were standing in the crowd at the Knitting Factory in New York on a Wednesday night in January, for thinking you were at a heavy metal show. The room was filled with smoke from two fog machines turned on full blast, the stage was an unbroken wall of speakers and amplifiers reaching almost to the ceiling and the men in front of the speakers — there could have been as few as two of them, or as many as five, it was impossible to tell through the fog — wore jet black robes with hoods that hid everything but their disquietingly goatlike beards. The audience certainly seemed to think it was at a heavy metal show: as the robed figures (druids? warlocks? inquisitors?) picked up their guitars, shouts of "Satan!" could be heard, and hands were raised in the classic devil-horns gesture everywhere you looked. The Knitting Factory is by no means a metal venue (it's known mainly for indie rock and avant-jazz ), but on that night it was clear that the head bangers had taken over. That is, until the robed men started playing.


One of the two men at the front of the stage took hold of his guitar in a businesslike way and played a single chord: a classic metal chord, a down-tuned A or C-sharp, outrageously bottom-heavy and distorted, not unlike the opening of Black Sabbath's "Iron Man." That, however, was where the similarity ended. A full minute later — an impossible length of time by any conventional musical standard — the same chord was still building on itself in the packed, airless room, complicated now by a second guitar line and at least three overlapping waves of feedback. No drums had kicked in, no singer had appeared and if any heads in the crowd were banging, they were doing so in extreme slow motion. The music was unbelievably loud — so loud, in fact, that the sound waves made your rib cage vibrate like a stereo cabinet and your teeth literally rattle in their sockets — but the effect was somehow more meditative than violent. The overall experience was not unlike listening to an Indian raga in the middle of an earthquake.

On closer inspection, you would have noticed that surprisingly few people in the room had the look of genuine metal heads; big hair was in notably short supply, and the ratio of button-downs to heavy metal T-shirts was approximately one to one. What unified the two camps, disparate as they appeared, was an almost studious devotion to the music. Most people had their lips pressed together and their eyes tightly shut, as if standing in a heavy wind. At one point there might have been a voice droning somewhere behind the feedback, or possibly the squeal of a Moog synthesizer, but for the most part there were simply the guitars. For the next 70 minutes the wall of noise continued to reconfigure itself, as much a tactile phenomenon as an audible one. Time decelerated, began to wobble and eventually ceased to apply altogether. Then the music suddenly ended, seemingly in midprogression: the robed figures disappeared, the houselights came on and a Gustav Mahler symphony began to play over the club's severely traumatized P.A. system. The crowd stood still for a few moments longer, emerging from its trance, then dispersed in a quiet and orderly manner. The night's Sunn0))) performance was over.

Our first few records were met with complete indifference," Greg Anderson, one-half of Sunn0))), told me a few months after the Knitting Factory show, grinning good-naturedly. "No one cared, you know?" We were sitting in a deserted sports bar on a slightly down-at-the-heels stretch of Hollywood Boulevard, not far from the offices of the band's label, Southern Lord Recordings. "We just did it because it was our stuff, and we really believed in it. So now, to see Sunn0))) as the biggest thing on our label, really kind of freaks me out. But it's a testament, I guess, to the fact that there's been a change in the way that people are thinking about music." In his black boots, jeans and battered plaid shirt, his face all but hidden by his dark brown beard and nearly waist-length hair, Anderson certainly looked the part of a satanic-rock demigod; our conversation, however, didn't fit the bill at all. I discovered that he was a devoted fan of bebop, that the thing he valued most about his music was the improvisational freedom it allowed him and that the volume of Sunn0)))'s live shows was intended, at least partly, to relax the crowd. "I think low-frequency sound, when played above a certain volume, is very conducive to a meditative state or a trance," Anderson said. "That's how I got into playing this kind of music. I was into feeling it: not just hearing it but feeling it, all over my body. After every show we play, I feel totally exhausted — my brain and body are like jelly. It's a wonderful feeling." Anderson paused briefly, running his fingers thoughtfully through his beard, looking positively Thelonious Monk-ish. "And I believe that sensation can transfer to the audience as well."

At this point, I felt obliged to point out that I couldn't imagine Lars Ulrich, Metallica's drummer and promotional mastermind, extolling the soothing qualities of his band's live shows. Anderson laughed brightly. "I can't, either," he said. That fact didn't seem to bother him at all.

The members of Sunn0))) — pronounced "sun" and named after a rare brand of vintage amplifier — are not an isolated group of obscure heavy metal dissidents. Like many forms of popular music, metal has a family tree that began to branch virtually at the root. After Black Sabbath's self-titled 1970 debut, which more or less single-handedly defined the genre by marrying the heavy blues of bands like Cream and Iron Butterfly to apocalyptic, darkly Christian lyrics, a brief period of stability ensued; soon, however, competing strains began to emerge. Black Sabbath's most orthodox disciples, Judas Priest and Iron Maiden, essentially established heavy metal as a movement, codifying the sound (monolithic guitar riffs, aggressive, bass-pedal-heavy drumming and strident, operatic vocals) that we associate with the term "heavy metal." At roughly the same time, bands like Motorhead were developing the faster, punk-influenced sound that would eventually lead to "thrash metal," "death metal," "grindcore" and a dozen other subgenres and make bands like Metallica millionaires. By the 90's, there were arguably as many rival sects in the international metal scene as there are in the Protestant Church, with the dominant paradigm tending toward faster, harder and generally as frightening as possible. Parallel to all of this was a dissenting tendency — too loose-knit to be called a style — toward slower, darker, more melancholy tempos and a greater interest in melody and mood: bands like Trouble, Witchfinder General and Cathedral. This alternative tradition came, largely after the fact, to be referred to as "doom metal" and is as close as Sunn0))) comes to a pedigree.

As metal was integrated into the cultural mainstream, it was perhaps inevitable that a full-fledged, card-carrying avant-garde would come into being. The experimental metal community that began to emerge in the mid-90's, centered in major cosmopolitan centers like Tokyo and Los Angeles and Oslo, set its sights not on MTV or commercial radio but on the limits of the genre itself. In the process, bands like Sunn0))) won themselves an audience as far removed from the old-school stadium metal crowd as possible. This is music played in small urban venues for sophisticated crowds with anything but orthodox tastes: the sort of clubs Glenn Branca, not Glenn Danzig, would have played in. And the bands themselves are more likely to discuss Satan as a social construct than bite the head off a bat onstage, like Ozzy in his prime.

When I asked Anderson about Sunn0)))'s stage theatrics, his response was almost Warholian in its mastery of spin, laying claim to absolute sincerity while playfully allowing that a certain degree of camp might be involved. What about the robes? I asked. Anderson frowned. "The robe makes it easier for me, personally, just to forget about the audience and concentrate on what's going on onstage — the chemistry, the tones, the sounds." What about the fog machines? "The idea is that this is a ritual, somehow: not a 'gig,' not a concert, but a sort of invocation. That shifts the expectations of the audience." What about the final track on "Black One," the band's breakout 2005 album, for which one guest vocalist, the legendary "suicidal metal" recluse known only as Malefic, supposedly recorded his vocals while sealed inside a coffin? This, finally, prompted Anderson to smile.

"That was about capturing a certain kind of claustrophobic, isolated tone. There was actually a hearse parked outside the studio — a Cadillac hearse, painted purple — that belonged to the studio owner. So, we're like, well of course we have to put the coffin in the hearse! So we actually put contact mikes inside the hearse, and inside the coffin and on top of it, and shut the lid. Malefic's a tall, lanky guy, and he didn't really fit inside too well. Eventually he started feeling claustrophobic, and that's how we got the tone we wanted. There are outtakes of him knocking on the lid, saying: 'O.K., I'm done! Let me out!' " Might that not qualify as tongue-in-cheek? I asked. "Tone first," Anderson said, holding up a finger. "What this group's about is tone." He watched me closely for a moment, then his smile suddenly widened. "I love metal," he said, as if confessing a closely guarded secret.

Stephen O'Malley, the other half of Sunn0))), explained things to me in a slightly different way. "We're really serious about what we do, and I think it's completely honest, but a part of that honesty is the fact that Greg and I have a good sense of humor about the whole thing. We're having fun with these clichés and stereotypes of metal." With his long, center-parted hair and Mephistophelean goatee, O'Malley could pass for his bandmate's twin brother; if anything, however, his tastes are even more unorthodox than Anderson's. In the course of our first meeting, O'Malley cited no less than 43 direct influences, including Sun Ra, Philip Glass, Japan's hard-rock pioneers Flower Travellin' Band, the Seattle heavy-music icons the Melvins, La Monte Young, Celtic Frost, the Indian santoor player Shivkumar Sharma and a black metal band from Sweden called Dissection.

"We're really interested in Tony Conrad, Steve Reich, all those minimalist composers," O'Malley said. "They took a point — one point in a possible progression, or series of notes — and elaborated all of the possibilities that were latent there. The microcosmic approach — Sunn0))) does that a lot." When I asked whether it was good P.R. for a metal band to name-check someone like Philip Glass in a national magazine, O'Malley shot me a deadpan look and shrugged his shoulders. "In the last four or five years, heavy music has progressed a lot. It's opened up to non-guitar-based types of music, nontraditional structures." He took a slow, thoughtful sip of his tea. "That said, there's a bunch of bands, who consider themselves 'true doom metal,' who do have a problem with us. They object to the fact that we don't have melody, harmony, song structures — all the traditional rock elements. We're just like, 'Why do you even care?' " When I suggested that professional envy might be involved, O'Malley smiled the same shy smile I'd seen on Anderson. "I'm really into Ethiopian blues right now," he said. "Ever heard any?"

Sunn0))) isn't the first band O'Malley and Anderson have played in together. O'Malley, 31, met Anderson, 35, in Seattle in the fall of 1991, when O'Malley was in high school and just before Anderson dropped out of Seattle Central Community College. Anderson's first girlfriend had a little brother, whom Anderson converted from effete post-New Wave — Love and Rockets and Bauhaus — to the glories of hard-core punk; the brother was friends with O'Malley, who returned the favor by giving Anderson a crash course in heavy metal. "I remember meeting this kid with superlong hair and sideburns, and I'm like, Who the hell is this guy?!" Anderson told me, laughing. "My girlfriend's brother introduced him to me as Metal Steve. I didn't really know about the underground stuff at that time — Steve was into all this fresh, new, extreme metal, and he basically said, 'Check this out, and this, and this.' Later, I turned him onto stuff I'd discovered, like post-rock and jazz."

A series of fairly straightforward metal bands followed, with names like Thorr's Hammer, Burning Witch and Goatsnake. The bands were fun for a while, and reasonably successful, but over time each of them grew confining — like any pop-music subculture (and perhaps more so than most), metal has a clearly defined sensibility, with a surprisingly strict set of rules governing everything from songwriting to the cut of your leather pants. After an extended musical hiatus, in which O'Malley tried his luck in England as a graphic designer and Anderson drifted south to Los Angeles, the Sunn0))) project took shape. The only rule for the new band — other than "heaviness," which, given its members' tastes, was likely to take care of itself — was that there should be no rules at all.

From the beginning, the Sunn0))) sound was connected to prevailing notions of heavy music by only the slimmest of threads. "We wanted absolute freedom," Anderson told me repeatedly. "Freedom to improvise, freedom to try stuff out, freedom not to worry about being entertaining." The first track on the band's 1999 debut, "The Grimm Robe Demos," makes the band's philosophy clear. Clocking in at just under 20 minutes, "Black Wedding" is immediately recognizable as a kind of manifesto, a declaration of radical intent, boiling down the traditional metal riff to its aural and conceptual essence. If Deep Purple had released an album showcasing the moments of pure bottom-end feedback between actual songs on "Deep Purple Live," it might have sounded something like "The Grimm Robe Demos." It's hard to imagine any music being heavier or, for that matter, very much slower — the first chord change happens four minutes and four seconds into the song. One fan wrote in an online chat room that the band waits for glaciers to roll by and then flags one down and hitches a ride.

In 1998, Anderson and O'Malley founded Southern Lord, largely in order to find a home for their own music; no metal label, no matter how "underground," seemed to know what to do with Sunn0))). "The Grimm Robe Demos" had sold less than 700 copies, and the follow-up in 2001, "0/0/ Void," had sold just over 2,000. Even for the embryonic experimental metal scene — a subculture within a subculture — those were discouraging numbers. Anderson and O'Malley's response was surprisingly pragmatic: they found an affordable office space on Hollywood Boulevard, printed up some T-shirts, pressed a reasonable amount of records, then quietly built a following.

"Three basic types of people come to see us play," O'Malley told me. "First, the people who are really into experimental music or metal — the passionate music lovers; then you've got the spectacle crowd, who come for the robes and the smoke machines; last, you have a group of people who are more interested in the physical aspect of it. Those are the people who are just like, I'm going to stand at the front of the stage for an hour and a half — can I take it? Will I wet my pants? Will I puke? I'm going to be at the very front, in front of these amps for 75 minutes, and then when it's done I'll feel liberated, or I'll feel like I've beaten the band or whatever, no matter how tortuous it is." I pointed out that it's fairly uncommon for a band to divide its fan base into the aural, the visual and the tactile: I'd expected him to make a distinction between metal and experimental-music fans. O'Malley nodded politely, then did his best to bring me up to date. "In the past three or four years, since the point when the Internet started becoming the primary source for discovering music, the lines between different styles have really begun to blur." He spread his arms as he said this, looking at me almost slyly, as if he were about to perform a magic trick. "There's so much access to so many different types of music now, it's no wonder that people aren't categorizing themselves so sharply. It's pretty awesome, really."

Southern Lord Recordings had no particular ideology or purpose at the beginning, other than to advance the cause of music that its founders made or liked — but there was no question, ultimately, what genre of music that would be. "I like heavy music," Anderson told me simply. "That's where I come from." When I asked O'Malley to explain the label's name, he looked down at his fingers with something verging on embarrassment. "You know that Slayer album from the 80's?" he mumbled. "'South of Heaven?"' I was beginning to understand. "I see," I said. "So, then, Southern Lord would be another name for—" "That's right," O'Malley said quickly, clearly grateful that I hadn't made him spell it out.

Over the last five years, Southern Lord has become something of an independent-music success story. As awareness of "drone metal" — as Sunn0)))'s take on doom metal has been labeled — and of other forms of unconventional heavy music has grown, both on purist metal Web sites and on college campuses, record sales for the label have risen exponentially. Eight years after its founding, Southern Lord has arguably become as closely associated with the experimental metal scene as Blue Note was with the hard bop movement of the 50's.

"They've got a good thing going with that label," says Ian Christe, author of "Sound of the Beast: The Complete Headbanging History of Heavy Metal." "It's become a known brand, the way that Sub Pop was in the early 90's — people will check out a record they've never heard of just because it's out on Southern Lord." The label's discography is diverse, as you might expect of Anderson and O'Malley: two Saint Vitus reissues; a much-acclaimed comeback album by the minimalist post-grunge band Earth (which once briefly featured Kurt Cobain on vocals); and a strangely beautiful suite of songs called "Triste," by the Australian experimentalist Oren Ambarchi, largely made up of single guitar notes played over gentle static. One band more than any other, however, has helped to put Southern Lord on the map: a well-mannered three-piece from Tokyo with the slightly improbable name Boris.

If Sunn0))) is the ZZ Top of experimental metal, with matching beards and Gibson Les Paul guitars, Boris might be the Kraftwerk, or the Ramones, or even the Jimi Hendrix Experience, depending on the album. The members of Boris, each of whom goes by only his or her given name — Wata on lead guitar and vocals, Atsuo on drums and Chinese gong and Takeshi on Cheap Trick-style, double-neck guitar and bass — approach heavy metal with the seriousness of theoretical physicists. Like Sunn0))), they have the requisite long hair and black tour T-shirts; unlike Sunn0))), they are clearly and undeniably a rock band, with identifiable song structures, singable lyrics and a charming and welcome willingness to pay tribute at the altar of Black Sabbath. The fact that Boris's lead guitarist is a graceful, soft-spoken woman who occasionally wears Victorian blouses onstage is unusual, certainly, but in no way outside the realm of your run-of-the-mill head banger's fantasy.

At first glance, therefore, you might wonder where the common ground with a band like Sunn0))) would lie. The answer, of course, is simple: Boris is omnivorous in its taste, obsessed with surprising its audience and, in the words of Greg Anderson, makes "beautifully ominous" music. Not only that, but the kids seem to like it. Boris is currently second only to Sunn0))) in total record sales for Southern Lord artists, and the band's new album, "Pink," has been winning ecstatic reviews from 20-something metal heads and middle-aged critics alike.

Boris's success in America — which, though still fairly modest, is building up a remarkable head of steam — seems at once unlikely and inevitable. It seems unlikely not only because its members are relatively old (all of them are well past 30) and speak very little English but also because the band's identity shifts drastically from album to album: so much so, in fact, that a visual code has been developed for its record sleeves, the aesthetic equivalent of a parental advisory sticker. From CD's on which "Boris" is printed in uppercase letters (as in the case of "BORIS:Pink"), fans can expect Black Sabbath-by-way-of-the-Melvins heavy rock; if the CD in question features the band's name in lowercase lettering, they may need to check their expectations at the door. A recent lowercase Boris album, "Sun Baked Snow Cave," featured an hourlong collaboration with the Japanese experimental "noise" pioneer Merzbow, in which softly plucked acoustic guitar chords alternated with ear-piercing cascades of, well, noise.

"Boris makes both commercial and uncommercial rock," Atsuo, the band's drummer, told me proudly. "To make only one kind is not interesting." We were sitting in the corner booth of an immaculate Denny's in the depths of Tokyo's seemingly infinite western suburbs, a few blocks from the band's bare-bones rehearsal space. In Europe and America, Takeshi chimed in, people seem to want the lowercase boris, at least at the live shows; in Japan, the fans want to be rocked. "But the uppercase BORIS always sells more records," Atsuo observed between mouthfuls of cheesecake. Later, the conversation turned, perhaps inevitably, to the once-almighty Metallica and the fact it seems to be making only one type of music, especially lately. "They should try making both kinds," Takeshi said earnestly. "That would be very much more cool."

Like Sunn0))), Boris is almost startlingly cosmopolitan in person. The band members first met at art school, so I asked whether visual art had influenced their music. Atsuo considered this for a moment. "The Dada movement, and the neo-Dada movement, did not have very much influence in Japan," he said finally, bringing his fingers thoughtfully to his chin. "But what Dada did is like what Boris does. Our goal is to make people think — to bring about a change in their consciousness, to create a new way of listening, of hearing. Something like the music of John Cage." Atsuo has become an ideologue of sorts for the experimental-metal movement, famous for statements like the one he made during an interview with the Web zine RadCompany.net: "The moment when a person changes — that is the devil.. . .It's simple to talk about Satan as a symbol. But it's important to consider the deeper meaning of the symbol."

A little over a month ago, on a humid Sunday evening, Boris performed at a club called Shelter, in the Shimokitazawa district of Tokyo. Shimokitazawa is well known for its legion of "live houses," clubs where bands in every popular genre from hard-core punk to country and western perform each night of the week, occasionally on the same bill. That night's show — which had been listed, somewhat alarmingly, as "fangsanalsatan extra" on the club's Web site — was an intimate affair, a last-minute party for the band's inner circle. Shelter was jammed to the gills, as it must be virtually every night: the performance space is no bigger than your average suburban basement. At least a quarter of the audience, which looked surprisingly conservative, were Westerners. "I can't wait to tell my ex-boyfriend that I saw Boris play," said Ariel Acosta, a 24-year-old cultural-studies major from Virginia. "He'll be so jealous!" The crowd waited politely for the opening act — a pretty four-piece with a waifish lead singer who might best be described as a Pacific Rim Julee Cruise — to finish its set, clapping dutifully as it left the stage. Then a fog machine was turned on somewhere behind the amplifiers, the U.K. metal band Venom began to play over the P.A. and the atmosphere in the cramped room changed perceptibly. "Here we go," the extremely drunken Englishman next to me whispered to himself, closing his eyes and grinning.

The hour that followed had a lot in common with the Sunn0))) show at the Knitting Factory — the fog, the volume, the hypnotic flow of uninterrupted sound, the occasional devil-horns gesture — but the differences were easily as striking. The Boris show was symphonic where Sunn0)))'s had been — for want of a better word — tectonic: progressions were explored and returned to in unexpected ways, but the architecture of the music remained clear from start to finish. What's more, the personalities of the musicians, though occasionally obscured by the fog, were absolutely key to the event: Takeshi's metal flourishes, Atsuo's fanatical grin, Wata's beatific presence at the front left corner of the stage. For much of its 45-minute set the band was starkly backlit, and Takeshi's silhouette might have been lifted out of an early video clip from MTV's "Headbangers Ball." There were other moments when I was put in mind of a classic rock opera, like the Who's "Tommy" or even "Kilroy Was Here," by the 70's stadium rockers Styx, except that Boris's performance was both more feverish and more elegant.

Stephen O'Malley first heard Boris in England and quickly passed its demo on to his bandmate. "The first stuff I heard of theirs was amazing," Greg Anderson says. "It was really, really heavy. I could relate to it completely, because it was inspired by the same bands that inspired us — particularly the Melvins and Earth. After that, they started experimenting, and I couldn't always follow where they were going — every record sounded different than the one before. But I respected that completely." It's clear that Southern Lord expects great things from "Pink," the latest Boris album, which had its U.S. release this month. "The new record is a combination of all the Borises of the past," Anderson says. "They're keeping that heavy element alive, but they've really developed their sense of melody — this new album is the most tuneful thing they've ever done." When I expressed surprise at hearing "tunefulness" praised by a member of Sunn0))), Anderson seemed almost hurt. "I am totally into melody," he says quietly. "Stevie Wonder is one of my all-time favorites."

Of all the parallels between Sunn0))) and Boris, none are more essential than their shared belief in collaboration. Partnership with like-minded musicians, however far-flung the genre, has emerged as a hallmark of the new metal avant-garde. Starting with "0/0/ Void," Sunn0)))'s second full-length release, each of the band's albums has made use of guest vocalists, ranging from the Hungarian "black metal" singer Attila Csihar to England's Julian Cope, whose band the Teardrop Explodes rode the British New Wave to brief fame in the 80's. Boris, in turn, has collaborated with Merzbow and Keiji Haino (two of the legends of Japanese experimental music), with a member of the psychedelic folk band Ghost and, most recently, with Anderson and O'Malley themselves. A Boris/Sunn0))) album, titled "Altar," is scheduled to be released in October. "Altar" is not a split LP — something quite common in the indie-music world — but an actual merger of the two bands, with musicians from each contributing to every song on the album.

Perhaps no collaboration better illustrates Sunn0)))'s distance from traditional metal, and its proximity to the avant-garde, than the band's current project with a 32-year-old metal fanatic named Banks Violette. Violette is not, strictly speaking, a musician at all (though he's covered in tattoos, keeps a drum kit in his apartment and claims that metal is more important to him than art), but a sculptor and an installation artist. O'Malley, who now lives in New York, has written music for two of Violette's pieces, the first of which, "Bleed," is now in the collection of the Guggenheim Museum.

"Bleed" consists of a mound of lacquered wood fragments, reminiscent of Robert Smithson's broken-glass sculptures of the 60's, across which low-frequency sound is pumped at extremely high volume by a loose ring of speakers. "Greg and I have always been into the idea of sound as a sculptural element, something that you feel as much as hear," O'Malley told me. "So the project made sense to us." Violette, who has collaborated with other metal bands in the past, including Norway's Thorns, explained his interest in Sunn0))) in similar terms: "For me, what Steve and Greg are doing bears comparison to Donald Judd's work, particularly his boxes of the 60's and 70's. Their sound is serial, repetitive, plays off of mass and is as much a physiological phenomenon as an acoustic one. It stops being an aesthetic experience and becomes a body experience. There are exact, direct parallels there."

Visual artists have allied themselves with heavy metal before — Mike Kelley's most recent exhibition, "Day Is Done," referenced 70's metal iconography, and Matthew Barney's film "Cremaster 2" famously featured Dave Lombardo, formerly of Slayer, playing a drum solo — but Violette's investment in the genre borders on the obsessive. For his latest project, a one-man show at the Maureen Paley gallery in London, the artist has cast the entire Sunn0))) back line — the Moogs, the guitars, the towering wall of amplifiers and speakers — in industrial salt. "Salt's a little tricky as a medium," he confessed, smiling boyishly. "It's hydrophilic, which means that it attracts moisture. A puddle tends to form along the bottom. Some galleries don't appreciate that." The band will perform at the opening, playing at its customary bone-rattling volume, but the audience won't be able to see the musicians: they'll be in a closed-off room one floor below the exhibition space. "The idea is absence, nonparticipation, missing the event," O'Malley told me, clearly excited by the concept. "On the second floor, where the piece is showing, you'll just have the residual sound, the ghost of the actual performance."

The day after we spoke, Sunn0))) was scheduled to fly to Brussels for the Domino Festival, in what was yet another first for the band: a guitar-free show, performed entirely on Moog synthesizers and oscillators. I should have known better by this point, but I couldn't resist: I felt dutybound to mention that most people wouldn't consider a band without guitars to be a metal band at all. "That's exactly why we're doing it," O'Malley said, as patiently as possible. When I asked Anderson about the coming gigs, he sat back in his chair and gave a quiet laugh, looking something like a well-intentioned pirate. "Steve's the arty guy in the band," he said. "I'm the guy that likes to stay home and watch 'Seinfeld."' But an instant later he was as serious as the grave. "I totally respect Steve's interests," he said. "I may just be a metal head, but I'm definitely always up for something new."

John Wray is the author of the novel "Canaan's Tongue." This is his first article for the magazine.

scott seward (scott seward), Sunday, 28 May 2006 20:45 (nineteen years ago)

"disquietingly goatlike"

scott seward (scott seward), Sunday, 28 May 2006 20:48 (nineteen years ago)

"In the past three or four years, since the point when the Internet started becoming the primary source for discovering music, the lines between different styles have really begun to blur."

oh my

scott seward (scott seward), Sunday, 28 May 2006 21:16 (nineteen years ago)

"Even for the embryonic experimental metal scene"

oh dear

scott seward (scott seward), Sunday, 28 May 2006 21:17 (nineteen years ago)

"When I asked O'Malley to explain the label's name, he looked down at his fingers with something verging on embarrassment. "You know that Slayer album from the 80's?" he mumbled. "'South of Heaven?"' I was beginning to understand. "I see," I said. "So, then, Southern Lord would be another name for—" "That's right," O'Malley said quickly, clearly grateful that I hadn't made him spell it out."

oof

scott seward (scott seward), Sunday, 28 May 2006 21:18 (nineteen years ago)

"embryonic experimental metal scene"

The writer doesn't remember Voivod and Celtic Frost in the 80s

DJ Martian (djmartian), Sunday, 28 May 2006 21:20 (nineteen years ago)

He catches on quick, that O'Malley. (xpost)

Abbadavid Berman (Hurting), Sunday, 28 May 2006 21:21 (nineteen years ago)

er sorry, I mean Wray, not O'Malley.

Abbadavid Berman (Hurting), Sunday, 28 May 2006 21:21 (nineteen years ago)

i know what yer thinking. when are they gonna get around to mentioning earth?! here ya go:

"a much-acclaimed comeback album by the minimalist post-grunge band Earth"

scott seward (scott seward), Sunday, 28 May 2006 21:23 (nineteen years ago)

There's already some talk on this article here:

http://ilx.wh3rd.net/thread.php?msgid=639015

NoTimeBeforeTime (Barry Bruner), Sunday, 28 May 2006 21:23 (nineteen years ago)

My first thought when I saw this piece was trying to imagine how this NYTMag newbie managed to pitch this as his first piece. Did the editors really feel this was a significant cultural phenomenon that needed to be on the radar of its generally down-the-middle liberal readers? Surely it's not as big as "Freak Folk"/"New Weird America" and the press coverage for that was in itself disproportionate.

Abbadavid Berman (Hurting), Sunday, 28 May 2006 21:24 (nineteen years ago)

I mean I remember seeing annoyed letters a few years ago from middle-aged readers who didn't understand why Beck needed a cover story or why they should care who he was.

Abbadavid Berman (Hurting), Sunday, 28 May 2006 21:25 (nineteen years ago)

Yes, but those middle-aged readers will soon die. (This is a bit cruel, but you know.)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 28 May 2006 21:28 (nineteen years ago)

I think its a good thing if Sunn o))) and Boris are introduced to new people. I wish the NME would have the balls to do it. It is after all supposed to be a music mag!

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Sunday, 28 May 2006 21:30 (nineteen years ago)

Typical down-the-middle liberal response.

(kidding)

Abbadavid Berman (Hurting), Sunday, 28 May 2006 21:33 (nineteen years ago)

Actually Kerrang have never had Sunn o))) or Boris on the cover at all.
Infact I don't recall any Boris articles.
Kerrang is too busy covering mall punk or whatever.

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Sunday, 28 May 2006 21:38 (nineteen years ago)

My first thought when I saw this piece was trying to imagine how this NYTMag newbie managed to pitch this as his first piece. Did the editors really feel this was a significant cultural phenomenon that needed to be on the radar of its generally down-the-middle liberal readers?

The current editor of the Times magazine wrote music criticism for Slate for a while.

behind the news, Sunday, 28 May 2006 21:38 (nineteen years ago)

"I may just be a metal head, but I'm definitely always up for something new."

urp

scott seward (scott seward), Sunday, 28 May 2006 21:53 (nineteen years ago)

oh well. too bad they didn't mention more of the really good stuff that southern lord puts out.

scott seward (scott seward), Sunday, 28 May 2006 21:54 (nineteen years ago)

"Like Sunn0))), Boris is almost startlingly cosmopolitan in person"

omg, yoo r startling me with yer cosmopoopulism hevy rokker!!

scott seward (scott seward), Sunday, 28 May 2006 22:02 (nineteen years ago)

okay, i'll go now.

scott seward (scott seward), Sunday, 28 May 2006 22:02 (nineteen years ago)

"black metal"


"black metal"

scott seward (scott seward), Sunday, 28 May 2006 22:03 (nineteen years ago)

i think this is a pretty great piece.

sean gramophone (Sean M), Sunday, 28 May 2006 22:15 (nineteen years ago)

I don't understand this style of feature writing, where you make your point as bluntly as possible ("bands can have surprising influences!") and then make it again and again and again as if you think your readers are completely retarded.

save the robot (save the robot), Sunday, 28 May 2006 22:16 (nineteen years ago)

and meanwhile, the point being made over and over again is: omg, they aren't dumb!

scott seward (scott seward), Sunday, 28 May 2006 22:19 (nineteen years ago)

I think its a good thing if Sunn o))) and Boris are introduced to new people.

better them than actual metal bands, i guess.

GOD PUNCH TO HAWKWIND (yournullfame), Sunday, 28 May 2006 22:54 (nineteen years ago)

Ha-ha, the meme of heavy metal by and for smart people reaches its odious zenith. Sunn wasn't and isn't a "rare" amp, bub, either.

xpost, omg, skot, they aren't dumb, they're cosmopolitan, they eat cheesecake. And the NYT flew me to Japan.

I was put in mind of a classic rock opera, like the Who's "Tommy" or even "Kilroy Was Here," by the 70's stadium rockers Styx...

The liar, liar pants on fire maneuver, for retrieving the interest of the upper middle class reader, should it be wandering. They're like Styx! I know Styx!

George 'the Animal' Steele, Sunday, 28 May 2006 23:01 (nineteen years ago)

"they eat cheesecake"


hahaha!

scott seward (scott seward), Sunday, 28 May 2006 23:03 (nineteen years ago)

the most un-metal of cakes!!!

scott seward (scott seward), Sunday, 28 May 2006 23:03 (nineteen years ago)

They're like Styx! I know Styx!

mr. steele OTMFM.

GOD PUNCH TO HAWKWIND (yournullfame), Sunday, 28 May 2006 23:30 (nineteen years ago)

"And while the editor sent me to Japan, those perishers at fact check were too cheap to save me from myself 'cuz Styx's stadium opera was 'Kilroy' from 1983, not 'the Seventies.'" Oof.

George 'the Animal' Steele, Sunday, 28 May 2006 23:33 (nineteen years ago)

The story is teased as "Meta-Heavy Metal?!?" on the cover. I thot Motorhead invented meta-metal with "Deaf Forever."

Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Sunday, 28 May 2006 23:37 (nineteen years ago)

and dissection aren't a black metal band and the former drummer for slayer is playing with slayer, but i wasn't gonna go there with that stuff. too easy. (tho dissection DID and do play "blackened" melodic death metal. *and they have already broken up upon the release of their new album. still playing a couple dates in the states i think.*)

scott seward (scott seward), Sunday, 28 May 2006 23:37 (nineteen years ago)

"I thot Motorhead invented meta-metal with "Deaf Forever."

i think yer thinking of cheech & chong.

scott seward (scott seward), Sunday, 28 May 2006 23:37 (nineteen years ago)

Or David Lee Roth and Helmut Newton on "Women and Children First."
xpost

Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Sunday, 28 May 2006 23:38 (nineteen years ago)

Hey, man, is that "Earache My Eye"?! Turn it up!

Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Sunday, 28 May 2006 23:38 (nineteen years ago)

From a Sunday Styles piece on Priestess:

"'We're a hard rock band,' Mr. Heppner declared as his fellow guitarist Dan Watchorn, 27, nodded in agreement. Still, the band, which was formed in 2003, sets itself apart from its peers by infusing songs with a healthy dose of melody . . . "

Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Sunday, 28 May 2006 23:43 (nineteen years ago)

correct me if i'm wrong, but the whole "this ain't yer grandma's metal band" cliche is the most tired of all cliches. and these articles ALWAYS start with it. no big hair at a sunno))) show! and not just metal. every genre. i'll back da trife on that score. "No gats or bling for MC Crazypants. Everything from extreterrestials to the Kennedy assassination fill this futuristic rapper's rhymes!"

scott seward (scott seward), Sunday, 28 May 2006 23:44 (nineteen years ago)

That's the start to the Sage Francis story, right?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 28 May 2006 23:45 (nineteen years ago)

"sets itself apart from its peers by infusing songs with a healthy dose of melody . . . "

even dumber than dumb.

scott seward (scott seward), Sunday, 28 May 2006 23:45 (nineteen years ago)

cuz everyone knows that hard rock bands hate melody! especially the 4000 hard rock and emo-metal bands that get played on mtv and the radio every day of the week!

scott seward (scott seward), Sunday, 28 May 2006 23:48 (nineteen years ago)

C'mon, man, Geir wrote the article. Oh wait.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 28 May 2006 23:50 (nineteen years ago)

If Sunn0))) is the ZZ Top of experimental metal, with matching beards and Gibson Les Paul guitars, Boris might be the Kraftwerk, or the Ramones, or even the Jimi Hendrix Experience, depending on the album.

W-to-the-T-&-F

GOD PUNCH TO HAWKWIND (yournullfame), Monday, 29 May 2006 00:11 (nineteen years ago)

correct me if i'm wrong, but the whole "this ain't yer grandma's metal band" cliche is the most tired of all cliches

Yes, that's why this story will be in Da Capo's best rock writing thingamajig book next year (that and because every editor-at-large likes to apple polish the right newsies), edited by someone who is thought to be hot now but will be found to be phony the year after.

sets itself apart from its peers by infusing songs with a healthy dose of melody . . . "

Just like the Scorpions who sold a paltry number of records in the Eighties. Ha-ha.

Next up for the Times, perhaps a feature on Wolfmother? They sound like Zeppelin and Black Sabbath but aren't stupid like those same bands that your granddad liked.

Hey, we ragged on the Times six months or so ago when it ran an earlier piece on smart metal not like the dumb metal your brother liked. Even the ragging on the NY Times for its incompetent and lackadaisical but fashionable and life-styley coverage of metal is a meme that's old.

George 'the Animal' Steele, Monday, 29 May 2006 00:11 (nineteen years ago)

Holy crap, it's Sharon Jones and the Dap Kings! It sounds exactly like your grandpa's funk, but it's "smart."

Abbadavid Berman (Hurting), Monday, 29 May 2006 00:30 (nineteen years ago)

"Even the ragging on the NY Times for its incompetent and lackadaisical but fashionable and life-styley coverage of metal is a meme that's old."

you caught me. i never tire of it though. some cliches are timeless.

scott seward (scott seward), Monday, 29 May 2006 00:39 (nineteen years ago)

"If Sunn0))) is the ZZ Top of experimental metal, with matching beards and Gibson Les Paul guitars, Boris might be the Kraftwerk, or the Ramones, or even the Jimi Hendrix Experience, depending on the album."

yeah, this is just weirdly inexplicable. "or the beatles, or the kingston trio, or the mormon tabernacle choir, or les brown and his band of renown..."

scott seward (scott seward), Monday, 29 May 2006 00:44 (nineteen years ago)

and he forgot "or a bad high rise impression" for the new album too.

scott seward (scott seward), Monday, 29 May 2006 00:48 (nineteen years ago)

>Next up for the Times, perhaps a feature on Wolfmother? They sound like Zeppelin and Black Sabbath but aren't stupid like those same bands that your granddad liked.

I bought the Wolfmother CD at Target tonight, for $9.99. So far, I've only listened to the first song, which was garage stoner rock that gets better as it goes along, and the first bit of the second, which aped the semi-acoustic guitar sound of the soft stuff on Led Zeppelin III. But I don't hate it yet.

pdf (Phil Freeman), Monday, 29 May 2006 00:50 (nineteen years ago)

A series of fairly straightforward metal bands followed, with names like Thorr's Hammer, Burning Witch and Goatsnake

Here he goes off his rocker again with no editor to correct him. There was nothing "straightforward metal" about Thorr's Hammer and Burning Witch. They were both doom noise bands. Anyone who expect's "straightforward metal" can't listen to them. Do you think the writer listened to them or is he faking it?

And the bands themselves are more likely to discuss Satan as a social construct

Repeat offender, NY Times being self-referential without clueing in the reader. Satan discussed as a social construct in the New York Times last piece on smart metal for you not your older dumbass relatives and siblings six and some months ago in the Sunday Arts section. Probably uttered by someone from Boris, if I remember correctly.

The band members first met at art school, so I asked whether visual art had influenced their music.

The band members of Boris have lungs, so I asked whether, indeed, they did breathe air.

Atsuo considered this for a moment. "Air, now that's a mixture that did not have much influence in Japan," he said finally, bringing his fingers thoughtfully to his chin. "But air is basically what we all breathe and does Boris. Our goal is to make people breathe — to bring about a change in their consciousness, to make them think about air and Satan as a social construct..."

Then he took a sip of tea in between mouthfuls of cheesecake.

George 'the Animal' Steele, Monday, 29 May 2006 01:01 (nineteen years ago)

I thought the article was OK as far as it went, I mean it's cool that J Cope still likes to rant on about whatever music he digs, and it's even cooler that he can get some decent-circulation newspaper to print it. I bet that 90% if the ppl who read it do so b/c hey it's j.cope, and he always writes entertainingly, fuck whatever he's writing about, and that's ok as well, I mean who, who doesn't already dig "that kind of music" is going to get into wolfmangler?

Pashmina (Pashmina), Friday, 18 August 2006 13:57 (nineteen years ago)

i dig that black cobra. but now i'm all about ahab. as far as maritime sludge goes.

scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 18 August 2006 13:59 (nineteen years ago)

i like some of the on-line reviews i've read by cope. he is waaaaaaaay enthused. i never read his krautbook. i'm afraid he drives prices up though. but what are ya gonna do.

scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 18 August 2006 14:00 (nineteen years ago)

Austria's Cadaverous Condition. This band began as a black metal act way back when, but have, in recent times, brought forth a delightful acoustic side that no one could have been prepared for. Indeed, the only surviving black metal element in Cadaverous Condition's current performances is the Cookie Monster vocals of singer Wolfgang

Um, does does the Arch Doid mean death metal here?

NickB (NickB), Friday, 18 August 2006 14:07 (nineteen years ago)

if cope ever drops dead the boris limited vinyl market's gonna sink like a stone.

GOD PUNCH TO HAWKWIND (yournullfame), Friday, 18 August 2006 14:08 (nineteen years ago)

the only cope album i liked was peggy suicide. which is a darn good rekkerd. the one after that was okay too. the one with the song about jesus on the cross. that's a great song. i couldn't listen to anything after that. i never understood how someone with such freaky tastes could make so much dorky music. but peggy suicide is worth at least five bucks used on cd. i never dug teardrop stuff.

scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 18 August 2006 14:12 (nineteen years ago)

The whole "metal bands and metal heads are stoopid, oh, apart from these ones I'm writing about right here, yes, I've found a couple of smart ones that it's ok to like" meme is kind of annoying, isn't it.

Where do you guys think it comes from though? Most "dedicated" metalheads who listen exclusively to the genre are "stoopid". Wikipedia nu-metal discussion page anyone?

xave (xave), Friday, 18 August 2006 14:13 (nineteen years ago)

Just about everything up to "Jehovahkill" (whioch is the one yr referring to) I really like. "World Shut Your mouth" is fantastic! After Jehovakill, it gets sketchy, though it's all worth picking up[ if cheap, b/c there's usually 1 or 2 good tunes on there at least.

Most dedicated genre fans who listen to any genre exclusively are either stupid, or obnoxiously holier-than-thou and stupid, though! Why do metallers get singled out?

Pashmina (Pashmina), Friday, 18 August 2006 14:34 (nineteen years ago)

That Ahab record is really good. I just wrote about it for PTW, but it's not online yet.

pdf (Phil Freeman), Friday, 18 August 2006 16:49 (nineteen years ago)

I love that Ahab record! "German funeral doom" almost as sad as Summoning; I wrote about it for my MTV Urge blog already. I was actually on a big "real metal" kick these past few weeks, for some reason: Ahab, Fear of Eternity, Draconian, Place of Skulls, I Shalt Become -- I honestly don't know what the hell got into me.

xhuxk (xheddy), Friday, 18 August 2006 16:58 (nineteen years ago)

i like how the ahab album approaches Swans territory at times. especially if you play it really loud.

scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 18 August 2006 17:05 (nineteen years ago)

Most dedicated genre fans who listen to any genre exclusively are either stupid, or obnoxiously holier-than-thou and stupid, though! Why do metallers get singled out?

True enough.

xave (xave), Friday, 18 August 2006 17:06 (nineteen years ago)

that ahab disc is alright. i'd rather listen to isis

6335 (6335), Friday, 18 August 2006 17:26 (nineteen years ago)

The last Place of Skulls album is great. I'm trying to get the Wire to let me write about Fear of Eternity. That guy's put out three full-length albums this year.

Right now I'm listening to the second half of My War, speaking of slow 'n' heavy.

pdf (Phil Freeman), Friday, 18 August 2006 17:31 (nineteen years ago)

the only cope album i liked was peggy suicide.

man, that's one more than i ever liked. excepting the s/t brain donor release, which is just kinda stupid aping of iggy/mc5 and winds up sounding like blackjack records stuff with a weird old dude singing. and "my pagan ass" sounds like the jesus lizard.

GOD PUNCH TO HAWKWIND (yournullfame), Saturday, 19 August 2006 03:46 (nineteen years ago)

I got TWO review copies of Black Cobra! One in a sleeve and then a finished copy later! And they're good!

Whiney G. Weingarten (whineyg), Saturday, 19 August 2006 05:07 (nineteen years ago)

I too distrust Sunn 0)))'s motives (and that of the critics quicker to proclaim them OMG GENIUS NOT LIKE METAL WHICH IS TEH CRAPS), but I've got to admit I'm looking forward to the Sunn/Boris album.

Telephonething (Telephonething), Saturday, 19 August 2006 05:21 (nineteen years ago)

I probably -need- some explaining when it comes to metal, and that piece is good enough for me (mostly for the enthusiasm).

I'd still feel like such a hipster getting into it now, as if I was suddenly going to immerse myself in gangsta rap about a decade after the fact... another genre where I struggle to get on the other side of the whole dominant-ego aesthetic thing.

bad hair day house (fandango), Sunday, 20 August 2006 13:39 (nineteen years ago)

Meantime, in a related issue, I randomly noticed this article the other day. George already responded; as for me I'm still puzzling over the idea I'd be mentioned in the same breath as Chuck Eddy.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 20 August 2006 14:02 (nineteen years ago)

i feel like witchcraft have gotten lost in the shuffle. i loved that last album! just saying. i don't hate all heavily-hyped stuff like this.

scott seward (scott seward), Sunday, 20 August 2006 14:24 (nineteen years ago)

New EP by Davotchka (is that how you spell it? the black plastic sleeve is impossible to read), who had a not-awful cut on the Invaders comp, does not seem awful, though I'm not sure if it has actual songs. Sounds like they're going for a heavy Hawkwind feel, with the vocals working as just another instrument. Am I wrong?

xhuxk (xheddy), Sunday, 20 August 2006 14:29 (nineteen years ago)

Danava -- here's their myspace page.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 20 August 2006 14:34 (nineteen years ago)

Hawkwind, hmm...well, "Eyes in Disguise" has got one of those prog-into-Numan keyboard lines, at least.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 20 August 2006 14:36 (nineteen years ago)

The rock critics and music fanatics over at online discussion forum and cyber circle jerk I Love Music--frequented by folks like former Village Voice music editor Chuck Eddy and All Music Guide's Ned Raggett--have a term for groups like Wolfmother, unthreatening metal acts that receive a bunch of bandwagon attention: "Hard Rock For People Who Don't Like Hard Rock."

Wasn't it george who coined that?

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Sunday, 20 August 2006 14:37 (nineteen years ago)

(Meanwhile, there is a DeVotchKa, it turns out, but they are not metal.)

Pfunk -- that's why I linked George's response.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 20 August 2006 14:38 (nineteen years ago)

And now that the vocals have finally kicked in, yeah, definitely Hawkwind-like.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 20 August 2006 14:39 (nineteen years ago)

Wait, so were Danava on Invaders or not? My copy is, um, not handy. Maybe I'm getting a couple different bands mixed up?

xhuxk (xheddy), Sunday, 20 August 2006 14:40 (nineteen years ago)

ahh I hadn't got that far yet, ned.

The funny thing is all these bands have been accepted by the stoner rock community. before the "hipster metal" "types" did. So it's certainly not all people who don't like hard rock who are into them.

the whole "hard rock for people who don't like hard rock" is snobbish and elitist anyway.

I don't like wolfmother as it happens anyway hehe.
x-post

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Sunday, 20 August 2006 14:41 (nineteen years ago)

I don't have that Invaders comp. Who is on it?

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Sunday, 20 August 2006 14:41 (nineteen years ago)

No, Danava is definitely the band on Invaders -- I'm using my own copy for reference, and "By the Mark" is the song on the comp as well as the first song on their myspace page. DeVotchKa is a totally different act.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 20 August 2006 14:42 (nineteen years ago)

Pfunk: the official release page for Invaders

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 20 August 2006 14:42 (nineteen years ago)

Chuck have you heard of a japanese band called Solar Anus? Saw it mentioned on the AQ mailing list and it sounds as though they could be very good. It's a compilation of their 3 albums in the 1990s.

x-post. Thanks Ned.

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Sunday, 20 August 2006 14:43 (nineteen years ago)

Track Listing:
1. Saviours– “Circle Of Servants Bodies”
2. Danava– “By The Mark”
3. Big Business – “As The Day Was Dawning”
4. Black Mountain – “Behind The Fall”
5. The Sword – “Under The Boughs”
6. Dungen– “Christopher”
7. Witch– “Rip Van Winkle”
8. The Fucking Champs – “The Loge”
9. Torche– “Mentor”
10. Pelican– “Ran Amber”
11. High On Fire – “Devilution”
12. Witchcraft– “Queen Of Bees (Live)”
13. Comets On Fire – “Wolf Eyes (Middle Version)”
14. Diamond Nights – “12 Walls”
15. Wolfmother– “Love Train”
16. Night After Night – “Backseat Astronaut”
17. Warhammer 48k – “Get Bodacious”
18. Parchman Farm – “Curtis Franklin”

scott seward (scott seward), Sunday, 20 August 2006 14:44 (nineteen years ago)

i think black mountain was one of the first bands of this ilk that made me wonder what the hell people who liked them were hearing. i thought their stuff was really bad.

scott seward (scott seward), Sunday, 20 August 2006 14:46 (nineteen years ago)

From that comp Bands I quite like there are Big Business, Dungen.
I REALLY like Torche (who used to be Floor) , The Fucking Champs(saw em live years ago),Pelican, High On Fire, Witchcraft, Comets On fire.

The witch ,Saviours, and Parchman Farm tracks I have heard sounded ok IIRC.
Don't like Wolfmother as I said and the others I have never heard.

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Sunday, 20 August 2006 14:48 (nineteen years ago)

not that all those bands on the invaders thing are of the same ilk...

scott seward (scott seward), Sunday, 20 August 2006 14:48 (nineteen years ago)

Oh yeah the Black Mountain I have heard and was a bit of a letdown.
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Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Sunday, 20 August 2006 14:49 (nineteen years ago)

xp: except on some (all?) copies (well, at least mine) the witchcraft and comets on fire tracks are transposed on the CD cover, for some reason.

xhuxk (xheddy), Sunday, 20 August 2006 14:49 (nineteen years ago)

saviours are cool. but there are other bands on level plane that i like more.

scott seward (scott seward), Sunday, 20 August 2006 14:50 (nineteen years ago)

I like Gospel who are on Level - Plane. Envy are great but they're on TRL now.

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Sunday, 20 August 2006 15:07 (nineteen years ago)

yah, i love Gospel. I can't wait to hear what they do next.


fyi - i am definitely seeing the term "post-metal" pop up more in promo material. metal for tortoise fans! pelicans eat turtles, don't they? (not to say that "post-metal" is new or anything. but it's not as ubiquitous as its cousin "post-hardcore". or hasn't been, anyway.)

scott seward (scott seward), Sunday, 20 August 2006 15:15 (nineteen years ago)

haha post-metal is clearly aimed at me!

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Sunday, 20 August 2006 15:16 (nineteen years ago)

Best Invaders track and band: Witchcraft
Worst Invaders track and band: Witch
Biggest problem in general with the compilation: Lame vocals (I'd include Danava and Saviors in that category, actually. And especially Witch, but those vocals are *way* beyond lame.)
And the Parchman Farm cut was way better than the one by Comets on Fire (who I'm liking less and less as time goes on.)
(I actually reviewed the comp for my MTV Urge metal blog. There was okay stuff on it, but a lot of it was disappointing, I thought.)

xhuxk (xheddy), Sunday, 20 August 2006 15:25 (nineteen years ago)

Sunn0))) make great driving music... that infinite droning bassiness is like central heating for the ears, and the fact that there is so much action at the low end with very little at higher frequencies means you can have it on at car-shaking volumes and still hold down an intelligible conversation...

gekoppel (Gekoppel), Monday, 21 August 2006 19:10 (nineteen years ago)

nine years pass...

"At this point, any sane adult tut-tuts the predictably lame outcome of two dumb subcultures commingling: When potheads try making heavy metal, nothing much happens — and too loudly."

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/24/magazine/letter-of-recommendation-sleep-dopesmoker.html?smid=fb-share

scott seward, Saturday, 30 January 2016 23:08 (ten years ago)

David Rees is the author of ‘‘How to Sharpen Pencils’’

just sayin, Sunday, 31 January 2016 10:20 (ten years ago)

... Among other things; he's an awesome guy & a Chapel Hill native! I had the opportunity to meet him in his Get Your War On/mnftiu cartooning days

regular ass terrestrial radio (bernard snowy), Sunday, 31 January 2016 13:52 (ten years ago)

I love My Filing Technique Is Unstoppable

lute bro (brimstead), Sunday, 31 January 2016 22:06 (ten years ago)

sry, My New Filing Technique Is Unstoppable

lute bro (brimstead), Sunday, 31 January 2016 22:07 (ten years ago)

That's one of the best pieces of music writing I've ever read. David Rees is excellent.

JRN, Sunday, 31 January 2016 22:37 (ten years ago)


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