The Unforgettable Fire

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was written in 1984 by Bono and the Edge and released on the U2 LP of the same name. It was a hit when released as a 45 in, I think, Spring 1985. I like this track a lot. I think the keyboards on the choruses are a glimmering masterstroke. I think they were played by Brian Eno, who produced the whole thing. I like the strings, too - which first stab dramatically, then swoop gently and replicate the keyboard melody. I like the melody in general; and even the apocalyptic poesy of the lyric.

But does anyone else?

the pinefox, Monday, 18 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

God all these months of slating everything and now I find out you like U2.

Ronan, Monday, 18 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

because I am rockism I like the entire Unforgettable Fire album. It has a kind of dark, edgy feel to it that appeals to sad old goths like me.

The song... yes, nice.

DV, Monday, 18 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Goth - yes, Vicar - you might be on to something.

the pinefox, Monday, 18 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Is this the one where a roundabout kind of spins off in the video? If so, I think it's quite good.

PM, Monday, 18 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

When's the "Pinefox's Song Series compiled" book coming out? :-)

I like this record as well. The lyric is really strange, almost as if he'd stuck together a bunch of song titles ("Walk On by", "Stay Tonight", "Don't Look Back", "Face To Face", "Silver and Gold", "Don't Push Me Too Far") but it works. And for once, Bono's OTT emoting suits the song. Nice mixture of Fairlight and acoustic instruments too.

Jeff W, Monday, 18 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

This is one of the few U2 tracks that I still like after all this time. Even when it came out, i thought it was one of the best tracks on the LP. (and I was never too keen on "Pride") It's emotional and creepy - that's why it's good.

Dave225, Monday, 18 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I was hoping this would be about the album...still the only U2 album I can listen to these days without cringing. Amazing stuff.

Sean Carruthers, Monday, 18 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

It's the only time I can think of where they managed to get the balance right between making something both cinematic and passionate, and without Bono going all OTT on the emoting front. It's post-noo wave and pre-when they rejected the fairlights and went 'authentic', and pre-Bono getting all look-at-me-I'm-so-postmodern. It's still utterly lovely and hair-pricking after all this time.

Darren, Monday, 18 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

lovely song. wonderful album. my favourite by u2 and one of my all-time favourites, period.

cecilia, Monday, 18 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

One of the best songs on a not-so-great album, and one of U2's better lyrics as well. I don't think U2 has had as moody a single since.

Vinnie, Monday, 18 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I have a feeling people here secretly like U2.

Sean, Monday, 18 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

This thread is a great example of why paring criticism down to single songs works so well. Mention "U2" and a lot of people here groan and feel the weight of their huge long career and massive massive celebrity and switch off. Mention a lone song and suddenly people respond to it. Even *I* want to hear the damn thing again now!

Tom, Monday, 18 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Very understated, tense song. It hasn't dated poorly at all. A similar track is "Love Comes Tumbling" off the 'Wide Awake in America' EP. (U2 was my favorite band when I was 12.)

Clarke B., Monday, 18 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I said Bono was an "ASSHOLE" in another thread,I meant that.On the other hand,just because one is an A**HOLE that does not mean one can't make a great record. I love "The Unforgettable Fire" Hey Pinefox,"the apocalyptic poesy of the lyric".I love that too!

Jim Hargraves, Monday, 18 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I hate the bastards and being Irish and having had witnessed all the hype, bullshit and sycophantic back slapping since 1980 I have 1000 more reasons to hate em than any English or American person would have. However, I heard this song on the radio a couple of weeks back and I liked it a lot. Always probably have liked it along with BAD and All I Want Is You. Maybe even Trip Through Your Wire and a couple of songs from BOY. Fuck I'd nearly be able to do up a C60 of songs I like by the pricks.

David Gunnip, Tuesday, 19 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I like U2. Even their latest output, though not as much as albums past. Actually, Pop is probably my least favorite U2 album. The Unforgettable Fire to Zooropa is where I pay the most attention.

patrick, Tuesday, 19 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Tom E is right. I think the response here is amazing.

the pinefox, Tuesday, 19 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Can't remember a damn thing about the song in particular. Unlike Tom, I resist the urge to revisit, since said urge does not in fact exist.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 19 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

five years pass...

If I could, I would...let it go...

Bimble, Sunday, 20 May 2007 03:36 (eighteen years ago)

Separation. Condemnation. Revelation. Desolation. Let it go. And so to fade away. To Let it go. And so to fade away. Wide awake. Wide awake. Wide awake, I'm not sleeping.

You know they were gods of music back then, they really were.

Bimble, Sunday, 20 May 2007 03:38 (eighteen years ago)

INDIAN SUMMER SKY
BECAUSE...
BECAUSE
I don't care.
And because I love Brian Eno.
That's why.

It's A BLUE SKY

Bimble, Sunday, 20 May 2007 03:39 (eighteen years ago)

Up toward the sky............................

Bimble, Sunday, 20 May 2007 03:39 (eighteen years ago)

Was always my fave U2 song from way back then. I think I was 12 when I 1st heard it.

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Sunday, 20 May 2007 03:40 (eighteen years ago)

Worship at the altar! Repent now! Early U2 is sacred!

Bimble, Sunday, 20 May 2007 03:41 (eighteen years ago)

and ESPECIALLY ELVIS PRESLEY AND AMERICA...

Bimble, Sunday, 20 May 2007 03:44 (eighteen years ago)

You've got to fucking get in a Buddhist monk when that song comes on.

Bimble, Sunday, 20 May 2007 03:44 (eighteen years ago)

Eh...ohhhhhh...woah...say stay stay...

Bimble, Sunday, 20 May 2007 03:46 (eighteen years ago)

See faces plowed like fields that once gave no resistance...

Bimble, Sunday, 20 May 2007 03:51 (eighteen years ago)

See the sky, the burning rain/she will die and live again/tonight...

Bimble, Sunday, 20 May 2007 03:53 (eighteen years ago)

I'm no dope, I give you hope, here's the rope, here's the rope...

Bimble, Sunday, 20 May 2007 04:03 (eighteen years ago)

I really didn't care much about U2 back then. Knew "Pride" and kind of found it OK, but I didn't hear "The Unforgettable Fire" until years later, and I always thought it must have been kind of a shock to their fans.

I mean, U2 was seen by their then fans as the "guitar hope" in a world of nasty synthpop bands threatening to take over the world. And then, along comes their favourite band with a song crowded with synths. They might have forgiven them because it was Eno's way of playing and producing them? Anyway, great song.

Geir Hongro, Sunday, 20 May 2007 12:22 (eighteen years ago)

When I was 11 years old (maybe 12) and Rattle and Hum was all the rage, I was allowed to choose and have a cassette album all of my very own for the first time (had a Madonna rec as a gift before and a few others shared with my sister).

I chose </i>The Unforgettable Fire</i> and the shop assistant tried really hard to persuade me that what I actually wanted was R & H. Thankfully I stuck to my guns, and yeah it's a haunting track and a strange record.

spectra, Sunday, 20 May 2007 13:11 (eighteen years ago)

My favorite U2 album by a longshot and a wonderful song.

Carnival, the wheels fly and the colors spin
Through alcohol.
Red wine that punctures the skin.
Face to face in a dry and waterless place.

Mark Rich@rdson, Sunday, 20 May 2007 13:17 (eighteen years ago)

That's a great story, Spectra. I remember having to deal with folks like that when I was a young-un' too. Kids ought to be allowed to pick their own music, no matter the consequences. Leave em alone!

I got carried away cause I just got this on vinyl again after only having it on cassette for many years. And one thing I thought was so cool is that the inner sleeve is not glossy like my old vinyl copy was. It's a much nicer kind of paper, I think. Then I was thinking about it and wondered why this was. Does anyone else have this on vinyl and can comment on the paper of the inside sleeve?

I always thought it must have been kind of a shock to their fans.

Geir is right, here. It certainly was a shock. I didn't know who Brian Eno was at the time so I couldn't even cut them slack for that. I was expecting another War and the first time I played it, I found it very confusing and disappointing. Thankfully something made me keep at it, which is something I fear might not happen in this day and age with a similar difficult album. I might just write it off and go on to the next thing, because there's too much available to linger on things. And it's not just downloading, I've been purchasing more music than I can even properly give attention to.

Bimble, Sunday, 20 May 2007 17:19 (eighteen years ago)

Fave U2 live moment: seeing them play "Wire" live on the tour for this.

Elvis Telecom, Sunday, 20 May 2007 20:22 (eighteen years ago)

Jesus, this is a great song. Or so I remember. I will put it on now to confirm.

The Real Dirty Vicar, Sunday, 20 May 2007 21:11 (eighteen years ago)

I feel that "Wire" was where they really told post-punk to kiss their arse.
But I assume you think this thread is about a song rather than an album. No matter. Nothing wrong with the title track.

Actually there's only one thing I love more than this album and that's the EP entitled Unforgettable Fire (most of which later came out as Wide Awake In America in the US). "Three Sunrises"/"Bass Trap"/"Love Comes Tumbling"/"Unforgettable Fire"/"A Sort Of Homecoming" (live version). That is absolutely positively one of my top 10 records of all time. Desert island disc.

Bimble, Sunday, 20 May 2007 21:20 (eighteen years ago)

Although actually I see this thread is supposed to be about the single, which is a shame.

Bimble, Sunday, 20 May 2007 21:22 (eighteen years ago)

"The Unforgettable Fire" always catches me unawares, and it might be my favorit U2 song as a piece of music. I might have better patience for Bono's banalities here had he sung them in Finnish or Wolof.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Sunday, 20 May 2007 21:26 (eighteen years ago)

I'm talking about the title track, obv

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Sunday, 20 May 2007 21:26 (eighteen years ago)

Do you remember the video? I do. That was when MTV had that thing with those astronauts when they did their station ID.

Bimble, Sunday, 20 May 2007 21:27 (eighteen years ago)

Now I'll have this in my head all day. Lovely song, it really is. I confess I am a fan of early U2 (and also of "Zooropa" which loses me points apparently).

Trayce, Monday, 21 May 2007 02:55 (eighteen years ago)

Maybe the backstory to this song is so well known nobody bothered to mention it but here goes. People at the Peace Museum in Chicago contacted U2 in 1983 about donating some materials to an upcoming exhibit on music called Give Peace A Chance. They showed the band some catalogs of recent exhibits, including The Unforgettable Fire, of paintings by Hiroshima and Nagasaki survivors, which inspired the song. (Another catalog they showed the band, of the Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. Peacemaker exhibit, inspired the King songs on this record.) The band became huge supporters of the museum. I volunteered there for a long time and one perk was a ticket for this tour. Which was great.

dad a, Monday, 21 May 2007 15:07 (eighteen years ago)

I think I read somewhere that Scott Walker's Climate Of Hunter was an influence on this record. Sort of makes sense.

underpants of the gods, Monday, 21 May 2007 15:20 (eighteen years ago)

Worship at the altar! Repent now! Early U2 is sacred!

I don't think of TUF as early U2. That makes me feel really old.

onimo, Monday, 21 May 2007 15:33 (eighteen years ago)

I think I read somewhere that Scott Walker's Climate Of Hunter was an influence on this record. Sort of makes sense.

?!?! Perhaps I need to sit down with The Unforgettable Fire sometime soon...

Eno's bits in the Scott documentary were nice. While playing Side 1 of Nite Flights: "You know, it's a bit humiliating to listen to this today! I mean, it's been thirty years and we really haven't gone any further than this, have we?"

Jon Lewis, Monday, 21 May 2007 15:49 (eighteen years ago)

i was going to chime in and mention how much i like this song still, and then i saw that bimble had messed himself on yet another thread. now i'm not so sure.

strongohulkington, Monday, 21 May 2007 15:51 (eighteen years ago)

Google is telling me it's The Joshua Tree, not The Unforgettable Fire that Bono says was influenced by Climate Of Hunter. Hmmm. To my mind there's a similar vibe to several of those 1984 tail-end-of-post-punk albums like Climate, Unforgettable Fire, Ocean Rain, I'm sure there are more. Sort of bring the strings in, take the tempo down, melodic yet weird, melancholy...

underpants of the gods, Monday, 21 May 2007 16:10 (eighteen years ago)

Wait-- BONO said it was...? I automatically assumed the Climate influence would be something Eno brought in.

Jon Lewis, Monday, 21 May 2007 16:15 (eighteen years ago)

Bono in the NME: "Scott Walker’s Climate of Hunter, that was a great influence on our LP. Listen to With Or Without You."

underpants of the gods, Monday, 21 May 2007 16:18 (eighteen years ago)

Dang. How interesting. Thanks!

Jon Lewis, Monday, 21 May 2007 16:28 (eighteen years ago)

Yeah, that's interesting, I'd never heard of the Climate connection at all, though I had heard the backstory about the paintings of Hiroshima/Nagasaki survivors.

Jess, my guess is you never really liked the song in the first place if you would let other people's posts stop you from saying so. But I'm flattered to think I have that much power over your musical tastes/what you will admit to.

Bimble, Monday, 21 May 2007 23:00 (eighteen years ago)

never ever would I have detected Climate in JT. Unforgettable Fire, maybe…

yeah, that tune is rilly great. One day in the mid to late '80s, when I was 15 or 16, myself and another poster on ILM, one who has gone onto some renown in the world of MEE-OOZ-EEK, were driving home after school. This poster had moved on to much more outre music, and U2 had been embraced by much more conventional teenagers than he. But this song came on my car's tapedeck, and the poster sang along with BONE-O's lovely falsetto part in the chorus…It's a nice memory.

Veronica Moser, Monday, 21 May 2007 23:52 (eighteen years ago)

i was going to chime in and mention how much i like this song still, and then i saw that bimble had messed himself on yet another thread. now i'm not so sure.

Yeah, because displays of enthusiasm for music on an Internet forum called I Love Music are so inappropriate and unseemly, aren't they?

Lostandfound, Monday, 21 May 2007 23:58 (eighteen years ago)

I mean, wtf?

Lostandfound, Monday, 21 May 2007 23:58 (eighteen years ago)

funny i hadn't listened to this in years so i called up the video on youtube. what struck me is i didn't remember u2 sounding so phil collins. also i forgot that this song invented jeff buckley.

it's ok. i never liked this album all that much.

tipsy mothra, Tuesday, 22 May 2007 03:58 (eighteen years ago)

one year passes...

I still play this song a lot, more often than any other comparably great U2 song. It stands up magnificently and doesn't weary. It shines on, mysterious and fresh, twinkling its beginning again.

I like the way that lots of people on this thread appreciate this lovely record.

Oh BTW the version on 'Live From Paris' (Joshua Tree box set: I heard on spotify) is tremendous, from corny opening - 'welcome ... to the unforgettable fire' to the strain as he sings 'crumble' in the last chorus; but the live Edge doesn't quite seem to crack the thunderclaps of the instrumental break.

the pinefox, Tuesday, 7 April 2009 11:35 (seventeen years ago)

one year passes...

Still pretty great though

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zg5NqogOMwI

Elvis Telecom, Saturday, 28 August 2010 11:02 (fifteen years ago)

listening to 'the threes sunrises' now. always thought that was an underrated gem that one.

Michael B, Saturday, 28 August 2010 11:41 (fifteen years ago)


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