Baile Funk Records

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Sorry if I posted this twice. I thought I was just posting in I Love Music but looks like its in I Love Everything.


I thought people on this board would be interested to know that it looks like some one put another Baile Funk comp out on wax. I bought mine from Turn Table Lab and its pretty dope. I know a while back people were asking about where they could buy this music and it looks like some one pressed these up.

check it out here; www.flaminhotz.com


Well just a friendly post and back to reading about Sly vs. the Beatles.

Dj Icey Mike (Dj Icey Mike), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 14:41 (nineteen years ago)

this dude is the dude that runs that record label. believe that.

it is also interesting to note that on this slab of vinyl does not credit any artists. FlaminHotz also is not paying the artists at all, nor has licensing.

yup.

killkillkillah60000, Tuesday, 30 May 2006 16:18 (nineteen years ago)

so yeah it's spam, but dude should also be outed for ripping artists off.

killkillkillah60000, Tuesday, 30 May 2006 16:20 (nineteen years ago)

Your right. But I feel that I am not ripping the artists off since I am not making any profit per say. I am guessing that you know a good deal about the argument and if you would like to talk some more please hit me up. You can use either email.

Dj Icey Mike (Dj Icey Mike), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 16:57 (nineteen years ago)

So it's not illegal if I start selling records without the permission of the owner unless I don't make any money "per se". That's my ideas of legality all thrown up into the air now.

jimnaseum (jimnaseum), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 16:59 (nineteen years ago)

I look at it more like expanding the awareness of the music genre per se. I also have taken a lot of heat already for this record and have set about correcting the mistakes I have made. When I first set out to do the record I had different goals and did not think everything through clearly. I have received a lot of feedback, mostly negative, and am going to correct the mistakes I have made with future releases of these Baile Funk artists where I pay them and credit them correctly. At this point in time it is the only way to offer up penance for what I have done. If you like the music and want these people to get money buy my first release so I can have enough to make a second record with them. That is the ultimate goal of the label, not to make money put to continue to put out records that are progressive and danceable.

So yes this is post is spam to buy my record but I thought that some people might want this release.

Please feel free to email me any other questions.

Dj Icey Mike (Dj Icey Mike), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 17:14 (nineteen years ago)

I want it and am probably going to download it from some website and everybody wins!

yours fondly, harshaw. (mrgn), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 17:17 (nineteen years ago)

The world's a mess

It's in my kiss. (blunt), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 17:23 (nineteen years ago)

Actually, Diplo gave him shit for putting out this record.
But diplo can do his hollertronix mash ups and put them out on records and charge money for them?

It seems like a double standard to me.

Is Diplo turning into the the whining artist that DJ Shadow turned into?

hehoho, Tuesday, 30 May 2006 17:53 (nineteen years ago)

I just don't like how "DJ Icey Mike" seems to be obscuring his contribution to the record in the first post.

Should I go into your store and say "hey, someone is posting that you're an idiot on ILM"?

i'm from hollywood, Tuesday, 30 May 2006 18:07 (nineteen years ago)

I have read this message board before and have seen that blatant advertisements are frowned upon. I created an account on this board with my DJ pseudonym and posted about it in a third party fashion to avoid this argument. It just so happens that the person above knew my DJ name and called me out about it. I have a more official post about the record that involves an explanation that I have put up on several other messages boards but since I know the community here is different I decided against that. My involvement in the label is 100%.

Dj Icey Mike (Dj Icey Mike), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 18:22 (nineteen years ago)

Ok, but can I get this record in the UK? 'Cos despite all the above I'd like to hear it...

Ned T.Rifle (nedtrifle), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 22:19 (nineteen years ago)

"Actually, Diplo gave him shit for putting out this record."

Oh the ironing.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 22:51 (nineteen years ago)

its delicious

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 22:51 (nineteen years ago)

So I've got to admit I'm pretty clueless about baile funk. I've heard the chatter, but that's all. Can anyone recommend anything besides wiki/google/youtube-ing it?

Hoosteen (Hoosteen), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 02:41 (nineteen years ago)

All right, all right, I learned how to use the damned search function. Nobody shoot me.

Hoosteen (Hoosteen), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 02:51 (nineteen years ago)

Please feel free to hit me up with any questions. Also my ep is good place to start with some good tracks.

Dj Icey Mike (Dj Icey Mike), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 17:18 (nineteen years ago)

baile Funk is shit anyway.
Diplo sucks and this record is a total scam.
- fuckers like you should be run out of business.

Savin All My Love 4 u (Savin 4ll my (heart) 4u), Thursday, 1 June 2006 22:50 (nineteen years ago)

if you're putting out a record of the music, it'd be good to know what it's called... in brazil, "funk carioca" is favored over "baile funk."

philip sherburne (philip sherburne), Thursday, 1 June 2006 22:57 (nineteen years ago)

The thread is now complete.

Rockist_Scientist (RSLaRue), Thursday, 1 June 2006 23:32 (nineteen years ago)

i do what i can to kill all these threads with that exact riposte....

philip sherburne (philip sherburne), Friday, 2 June 2006 00:59 (nineteen years ago)

four weeks pass...
A message from Carlos Machado aka DJ Nazz in my Miami Bass History group. This was in response to my attempt to convince the bass History guys who are just now discovereing Funk Carioca that a.) it's not called Baile Funk, and b.) it's not new as my earliest recordings of it date back to 1989:

http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/Miami_Bass_History/message/13533

Hey I'm djnazz and i'll clarify some points here:
I've been making the funky Parties since 1974
the rhythm was soul music on that time I'll give you some ex:
Lyn Collins -Thing,The Jb's,Average whithe band Pick up the Pieces,The meters people say,Clarence raid funk party,kc & the sunshine band etc...
After that Came rap's delight from sugar hill gang that song change the parties to rap and disco funk like kool and the gang Barkays One way,Shalamar,Debbie jacobs hot hot,Whisper, Earth wind and fire,sponie G spooning rap's,Whodini
Mr magic,Love bug starski you gotta believe,Spyder D , Kurts Blow just to tell some.
So after1982 come the planet rock,Deb Deb,Tyrone brunson,jive & the rhythm trax 122 bpm,Warp9,nunk,Little tony marsh- video burn out ,dr.jeckyl &mr hide the challenge etcrthis kind of music came over over here those songs change the parties but the name stay the same funky party,so we start to call This kind of music eletro funk or Funk eletronico in portuguese.
Now the parties are for 3000 to 5000 people in large places.
in 1984 we star to have some bass sound in our parties besides in 80 we have Raptivity that was very bass for me so the baile change again.
Now start to play more bass oriented music like Neucleus fresh mc's,Mcb,Conie ,Running information society,mc shyd Rap will never die,Mc Ade Bass mechanic,Mandingos,Gigolo tony smurphies rock,The megatrons,Trinere,Pretty tony etc..
In between 84 to 85 was born our taste for bass music.
So as you can see the things started before 1989.
On that time there wasn’t internet so to have the records we need to have people that work on the Air companies like Panan to bring us records or buy throuth the mail that was my case as a dj I ever import my records and ask friends to bring me some in theirs travels.
In 1986 I went to New York for the first Time and start to dig,discover and bring almost 90% of the records that came to Brazil between 86 to 98
Records Stores like Downtown records (Mr frank Ramos,Albert Marrero)Downstars Mr Nick,Rock and soul ,Music factory,vinylmania,just to tell some started to receive my visit every month.
After one year travelling to New york i started to went to Miami,los Angeles,San francisco ,Mr.eddie Fonseca from JDC records can testify these facts, And so the eletronic music scene in Brazil start to become stronger we saw a documentary called wild style and start to make scraths on the Parties,we have radios playing our music and in the midle of 89 a guy called Cidinho Cambalhota that was the A&R of polygram in Brasil and used to make performaces in the Parties(Baile funk) have a idea of to make That songs that we used to play on the parties with lirycs in portuguese but he was killed and the people of polygram put marlboro as the head of the project give him notoriety.
But he do not discover nothing or invent anything, he was in a right place on the right time.
This here is a brief resume if I’ll tell you all the history probaly we have to spend several pages or write a book.
But if someone have any question I can answer it
Just to finish:
The funk carioca is the miami bass song samplers edited by the dj’sçause they do not have acess to tecnology on that time .so we use samplerrs loops grom songs like Ring my phone by shantell & dwayne,Ice t hassam,Dj battery brain and so one.
I can tell you the real history of each records tha came over here I was there.
Besides I’m not on the midia this is the true history .
Funk carioca as we Know was Born in the grandmaster studio when I Djnazz,Dj Amazing Clay,Map style,and Grandmaster raphael start to producer people from the favelas rhyming ovrer the beats and talking about their realities this other guy do not play our music and now he say i’m the guy I invented it that’s ridiculus.
That;s why the name funk carioca because when people from São Paulo other big city in Brasil listened that kind of rap used to say :it’s the cariocas funk.
The first rap with lirycs in portuguese was in 1979 and was ca vesion of rapper’s delight from sugarhill gang.

Rap brasileiro
Muito se diz sobre qual foi o primeiro rap feito no Brasil. Gerson King Combo, já em 1977, fazia um soul com falas que lembrava muito o rap, mas não podemos considerá-lo um rap na essência do termo. O showman Miele gravou em 1979, uma versão de "Rapper`s Delight" do Sugarhilll Gang chamada "Melô do Tagarela". A rádio Cidade FM (Atual Sucesso FM) de São Paulo gravou em 1981, um compacto também com uma versão da mesma música chamada "Tema de Natal da Cidade" que era um belíssimo rap, com a voz de seus locutores (naquele tempo locutor de rádio tinha que ter boa voz
That’s it for a while
Carlos Machado Aka djnazz
national kid is a page of a friend that talk about me,,,,,,,,,,,,,

PappaWheelie (aka Ike Spodermang) (PappaWheelie 2), Saturday, 1 July 2006 21:08 (nineteen years ago)

PS DJ Nazz's (seemingly unused) myspace page:

http://www.myspace.com/djnazz

PappaWheelie (aka Ike Spodermang) (PappaWheelie 2), Saturday, 1 July 2006 21:17 (nineteen years ago)

one month passes...
http://beatdiaspora.blogspot.com/

curmudgeon (DC Steve), Saturday, 26 August 2006 19:01 (nineteen years ago)

Everytime I hear a Funk Carioca track that samples Let's get Started by Thumbs and Hoestiles (Frank Cornelious), I often wonder if Brazilians, especially of this generation, even know what the Munsters are, much less have context of 1985 American Hip-Hop/Bass replaying TV melodies ala Doug Fresh's The Show (Inspector Gadget).

PappaWheelie, Olives, Red Wine, Coffee, Scotch, and Me (PappaWheelie 2), Saturday, 26 August 2006 19:35 (nineteen years ago)

one year passes...

http://www.mcgringo-rio.blogspot.com/

free speech, a document of the times and/or glorification of violence

7th of March 08 posting re Sublime Frequencies cd--

Under the title 'Proibidão C.V.: Forbidden Gang Funk from Rio de Janeiro' the label Sublime/Seattle released forbidden Funk-Tracks from Rio. Lyrics who are glorifying violence -
A label from the U.S.A.has released a record, who is glorifying violence in the city where I live ... what should I say?
Every day in Rio there are dying people in reason of a senseless war. Everybody in Rio de Janeiro is affected of this war. We know, we are living in the most beautiful city of the world - nevertheless we can not always join our life in a relaxed way, especially not, if we are living in a favela.
Sublime made the record 'to portray a moment in time in Rio de Janeiro musical and social history' ... thanx sublime - very important work!
I have another idea for your company. On the market Uruguiana in Rio de Janeiro you can buy DVD´s with gunshots in various favelas in Rio de Janeiro, filmed by the police. There is a lot of great blood and crazy violence on this DVD. Why you don´t copy this DVD´s and release them 'to portray another moment in time in Rio de Janeiro'.
Believe me, they will still get a lot of trouble with this compalation ... with topics like this the Brasilian government is not joking ...

curmudgeon, Sunday, 30 March 2008 15:59 (eighteen years ago)

Funk Carioca ... classic or DUD

curmudgeon, Sunday, 30 March 2008 18:05 (eighteen years ago)

wow, we need to get this brazilian genius to the US, quickly, so he can work out our gangster rap problem for us

moonship journey to baja, Sunday, 30 March 2008 19:12 (eighteen years ago)

i wonder what that guys thinks of SF releasing cambodian folk music from the 70s; those people killed 2 million (out of 7 million) of their own people in 4 years.

moonship journey to baja, Sunday, 30 March 2008 19:43 (eighteen years ago)

That comparison might not work very well depending on how directly the content of the baile funk songs was related to the gang wars going on. (I'd be willing to bet the Cambodian pop wasn't celebrating mass murder.)

But I don't agree with you in general about this stuff. Not that I really think there's much to be done about it. Censorship or even just some sort of compaign against anti-social musical expression isn't going to be very effective. Better to vote with one's dollars, feet, etc.

_Rockist__Scientist_, Sunday, 30 March 2008 20:00 (eighteen years ago)

The Cambodian folk music was made by people killed by the Khmer Rouge or people who fled the Khmer Rouge, this is music that was financed by and apparently pays tribute to a criminal organization that flourished in Rio's favelas in 2003. I don't advocate banning such music, but that doesn't mean I want to romaticize it either. Many Sublime Frequencies releases are notorious for never giving proper credit (or payment) to the artists on the cds, I wonder how they're handling this one.

curmudgeon, Sunday, 30 March 2008 20:23 (eighteen years ago)

romanticize

curmudgeon, Sunday, 30 March 2008 20:24 (eighteen years ago)

thought this would be a passantino 'snakes on a plane' revive :(

banriquit, Sunday, 30 March 2008 20:24 (eighteen years ago)

cambodian folk music was made by people killed by the khmer rouge? how do they know?

moonship journey to baja, Sunday, 30 March 2008 20:30 (eighteen years ago)

seeing as the khmer rouge were all about purging western influence and getting rid of the vietnamese, i sort of doubt they'd be executing people for playing agrarian folk music. unless those people had glasses.

moonship journey to baja, Sunday, 30 March 2008 20:30 (eighteen years ago)

this is music that was financed by and apparently pays tribute to a criminal organization that flourished in Rio's favelas in 2003

so how do you feel about listening to wagner?

moonship journey to baja, Sunday, 30 March 2008 20:31 (eighteen years ago)

and anyway i'm sure you guys realize that the vast majority of antisocial behavior occurs w/o the aid of loud rhythmic music made by poor minorities

moonship journey to baja, Sunday, 30 March 2008 20:32 (eighteen years ago)

Censorship or even just some sort of compaign against anti-social musical expression isn't going to be very effective

so you'd be cool w/ censorship if it led to a decrease in "anti-social behavior"?!??!??!?

moonship journey to baja, Sunday, 30 March 2008 20:35 (eighteen years ago)

so how do you feel about listening to wagner? -Vahid

I already said that I don't advocate censorship.

As for the Khmer Rouge--Cambodian musicians quickly became subjected to the world’s most extreme form of music censorship — genocide. Not only was music itself banned, but it is widely estimated that ninety percent of Cambodia’s musicians and performers were killed during Pol Pot’s rule. By 1979, it became clear that the rich cultural history of Cambodia was all but erased.

The arts after Pol Pot

After Vietnam invaded Cambodia (taking Pol Pot out of power) some musicians returned to the capital city of Phnom Penh and immediately put out a call for all artists to return. Asia Source reports, “Cambodia's remaining dancers and musicians responded. In 1980, professional artists reunited for the first time in emotional performances that were at once an agonizing recognition of the loss of life — so many were killed or missing — and a reaffirmation of identity.” Ever since, Cambodia and its artists have been striving to recover, in whatever way they can.

http://www.freemuse.org/sw11052.asp

curmudgeon, Sunday, 30 March 2008 20:54 (eighteen years ago)

ha ha excellent! we should do that to "anti-social musicians" making baile funk.

moonship journey to baja, Sunday, 30 March 2008 21:40 (eighteen years ago)

You misinterpreted RS, you got your facts wrong about Cambodia, you misstated my views on censorship, and ah never mind... We've sidetracked this thread enough...

Meanwhile, for other views of Brazil's funk carioca scene I sometime look at
this grad student's blog--http://beatdiaspora.blogspot.com/

curmudgeon, Sunday, 30 March 2008 21:49 (eighteen years ago)


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