Dead Boys/Dictators/(early) Guns N Roses/??????

with more glam than punk, but you may like them.

Cross-related: The Spinatras (Ross the Boss band, first three cuts
are Dictators-like). Shakin' Street, French band fronted by woman singer, Fabienne Shine, went to San Francisco, were managed by Pearlman, picked up Ross the Boss and made one album for Columbia
which was very good.

Saunders history, early live BOC. If you can find a copy, snag it.
http://www.dickdestiny.com/blog/2006/05/he-was-metal-man-before-you-ii-nothing.html

'Dics fans generally like the Angry Samoan's first record, "Inside My Brain." '

Do you think they not like Back From Samoa as much as Inside My Brain?

If you like Dead Boys,...Pagans
If you like Thunders, ...Crime

Lots of early Saunders stuff that didn't make it record, like slower hard rock version of "Gas Chamber," is great. Early Vom, "Beaver Patrol." And the infamous "Got a Dagger for Ya Jagger."

Samoans Live at Rhino Records is also worth finding. Has the only known cover of a Mogen David and His Winos' song -- "Party Games" -- from the tragically deleted and surpressed Savage Young Winos. Mogan David was Harold Bronson and the Winos were or would be employees of CBS records in LA. The Rhino Records live set also contains a good version of "I'm In Love With Your Mom" and "I'm a Pig." All the tunes on it get a different -- more dumbass crass and noisy hard rock -- airing than the stuff most people know the Samoans for.

Dictators were Mott the Hoople fans.

I think some of the New Bomb Turks' slower tunes might fill this need, also perhaps Lazy Cowgirls, some Dwarves, and a bunch of other stuff that Agony Shorthand probably talked about two years ago.

Pink Fairies (ca KIngs of Oblivion)

The Lyres

The Magnolias

Das Damen

I would suggest the Nymphs LP from '91. It has a strong punk vibe, but the band is coming from the L.A. hair metal angle (like G 'n' R). Iggy makes a cameo on the record.

Dick Destiny & the Highway Kings were on a bill with the Lyres in Boston. It's cruel to suggest the Lyres are like the Dictators. Differing tastes aside, they were way too lightweight. Look for the DMZ album on Sire, produced by Flo & Eddie, which is an entirely different kettle of fish. Two guitarists, Rassler and Greenberg, who put some heft into the stuff.

>>Das Damen

This is cruel, too.

The Nymphs were interesting because of Inger Lorre but the full-length CD, if it's the same one I had, was turgid, not something that went well with the more successful bands named on this thread. Maybe I didn't play it loud enough. But it was sent to pasture pretty fast. I would go straight to the old version of Raw Power -- not the upgunned, remastered allegedly deluxe version which doesn't sound quite right -- and not mess with the Nymphs.

You'd probably like Flamin' Groovies Teenage Head. More particularly, the live material that was tacked onto the reissue of that album and Flamingos where the band does "Rumble" and other numbers through Marshall half-stacks, which was of relatively short duration in their career.

But there's more to the aesthetic than just the Dictators. Appetite-era G 'n' R opens up the possible suggestions to all kinds of interpretations, as does the Dead Boys.

The Nomads have a double disc set with Manitoba and Ross guesting on a couple live Dictators covers, so it's possible to pick and choose some material from that collection. Sometimes the Nomads don't quite make it, other times they're OTM. They're certainly big fans.

Electric Frankenstein

and obviously Turbonegro. The three record stretch of Ass cobra, Apocalypse Dudes and Scandinavian Leather is unstoppable.

None of the other bands have the catalog the Dictators did on a major label. They pretty much are entirely lacking in the sense of humor that went with the Dictators, too. You can't really get away
from it as part of the special mix of ingredients they had.

Turbonegro, on the other hand, do have a sense of humor. Destroy All Monsters had Niagara, who seemed to be totally without humor -- a very serious person, and some saxaphone on their 45's, which wasn't much of a Dictators thing. DAM were closer to being a
Detroit Goth band before their were such things.

I have a decent record of covers by Electric Frankenstein, but their cover of a Dictators tune on it isn't one of the keepers.

maybe the lyrics on those 45s seem self-seriously arty or something but jesusfuxxingxrist Niagara onstage tottering around a grim-faced Ron Asheton grinding out guitar solos was rock & roll burlesque/vaudeville at its most ludicrously enjoyable. In other words DAM were HILARIOUS (tho not always intentionally).

however Urnst is OTM re: a sense of humor EMBODIED IN THE MUSIC being central to the Dictators "aesthetic" and personally I had to LOL at the Black Flag nomination, now Hank Rollins IS humorless.

Sonic's Rendezvous Band are one of my all-time faves and touchstones. They went about their business pretty seriously but Fred "Sonic" Smith had a marvelous low-key dry wit, he'd begin their shows by rapping to the audience, making weird dedications etc. Scott Morgan tells a good story about the Dictators showing up unannounced at a sparsley attended SRB gig in Toledo.

Radio Birdman is a good call musically, very heavy BOC influence but again the joke factor is lacking (save the Hawaii 5-0 theme).

Sure, but the original question also includes the Dead Boys and G 'n' R, and neither of them had the sense of humor of the Dictators. So, humor isn't a required trait here.

Your zeal to make the Dictators over as punk rock band is quaint.

and buy all the Pagans you can find. Or buy the Shit Street comp. i don't care if they fit the thread. just buy it anyway.

Gizmos and Dow Jones & the Industrials split is another to sample.

I guess you can still get their LP. I snagged MP3s of the record offa Usenet a couple years ago, so they may still be floating around.

I'm listening to The Dead Boys Younger Louder and Snottier, The Rough Mixes lp right now, and it's so good. Not better than the official release, just different. Trebly and less produced.

Reading through this thread, I think early Alice Cooper got missed as an earlier link to this kind of stuff. Magazines like Carbon 14 and Black to Comm used to devote their contents to the links and histories of this kind of music. I love the 90s cause that's when I loved the 70s.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dRIy-mos-Fw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e3fuqO1cTEI

god, 1977. the weirdos should be on a stamp. so amazing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XElUStRhJ_4

I'm now comparing The Weirdo's "Neutron Bomb" 1978 from a Dangerhouse comp with The Controllers "Neutron Bomb" (around that time) from a What comp. Not the same song.

The Controllers are interviewed in the new Big Takeover, and I never realized they did a song with that title even though I had it already.

Weirdos win, but Controllers aren't bad.

Maris the Great

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qyBzC0iJu3I