What has been the evolvement of your taste in music and listening habits in 05/06?

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We haven't had one of these questions in a while. Or is it redundant because the answers are always already spread across the board?

Rockist_Scientist (RSLaRue), Saturday, 3 June 2006 15:28 (nineteen years ago)

The Coup convinced me to like socially-conscious rap.

WillS (WillS), Saturday, 3 June 2006 15:31 (nineteen years ago)

The Nuggets box and the deaths of Grant McLellan and Nikki Sudden have basically turned this year into 1985 for me.

polyphonic (polyphonic), Saturday, 3 June 2006 15:35 (nineteen years ago)

I listen non-stop to Gene Clark (thanks to ilm), first Little Feat LP, Rick Nelson & the Stone Canyon Band, New Riders of the Purple Sage, Neil Young's Time Fades Away, and all the late-60s/early-70s Merle Haggard records.

QuantumNoise (Justin Farrar), Saturday, 3 June 2006 15:44 (nineteen years ago)

"evolvement", huh. well, you DO work in a library, so i'll take your word for it.

scott seward (scott seward), Saturday, 3 June 2006 15:51 (nineteen years ago)

I was expecting something like that to be the first response actually. Sometimes I can't resist picking the most pretentious sounding word available. (Actually, I didn't even think it was a real word, but it turned out it was.)

Rockist_Scientist (RSLaRue), Saturday, 3 June 2006 15:58 (nineteen years ago)

anyway, i have been developing a taste for...fusion. and i have been buying tons of 80's new age records for some reason. it's the next big thing, i tell you. prog is so 5 minutes ago.

scott seward (scott seward), Saturday, 3 June 2006 16:02 (nineteen years ago)

anyway, i have been developing a taste for...fusion.

me too! not onto the hardcore stuff yet but an old friend from grade school does this one-man-band chapman stick stuff (Jon Edmunds, it's on iTunes if you wanna hear samples) - album called "Subzerosonic" keeps me nice and relaxed, which is kind of a priority for me in listening lately: I dig me some Jake Shimabukura, too, what can I tell you, I need to mellow out as much as possible

Thomas Tallis (Tommy), Saturday, 3 June 2006 16:08 (nineteen years ago)

I've gotten into some of the new "indie" metal, but I still turn it off when the cookie monster vocals start. Also, more varieties of electronic music than in previous years (although not much of anything including the word "house" in its subgenre).

Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Saturday, 3 June 2006 16:09 (nineteen years ago)

sorry that's "edmonds"

Thomas Tallis (Tommy), Saturday, 3 June 2006 16:11 (nineteen years ago)

More dance. More RnB. More classic rock. Less noise, unless you count an unhealthy obsession with Excepter's live sets.

trees (treesessplode), Saturday, 3 June 2006 16:13 (nineteen years ago)

scott, thank you for your contributionizing.

Rockist_Scientist (RSLaRue), Saturday, 3 June 2006 16:17 (nineteen years ago)

I'll "me too" the other half of scott's evolvement -- much to my surprise, I'm listening to a fair amount of "New Age" music these days. Well, not 80s new age, more recent stuff by Robert Rich mainly.

I'm taking a Yoga class once a week, which I enjoy, except about half the time our instructor plays this horrible music towards the end of class, which consists of lyrics about a "sacred place within your heart," sung by what appears to be a chorus of wood nymphs accompanied by bamboo flute and (incongruously) a variety of cheesy DX7 presets. This has clarified, for me, a division of new age music into good and bad.

Paul in Santa Cruz (Paul in Santa Cruz), Saturday, 3 June 2006 16:29 (nineteen years ago)

I had a yoga instructor who used to break into song at the end of class, just as we were all stretched out on the floor, chilling, heading into a state of deep relaxation. I think I must have sometimes visibly winced.

Rockist_Scientist (RSLaRue), Saturday, 3 June 2006 16:35 (nineteen years ago)

God help me, but I'm really enjoying Fall Out Boy and Panic! At The Disco. I would never have dreamed of dropping cash on this kind of music a few years ago.

Also, dubstep & electrohouse. But those are more of a continuum from my usual tastes.

Tantrum The Cat (Tantrum The Cat), Saturday, 3 June 2006 16:38 (nineteen years ago)

Paul do you dig Steve Roach? his better stuff is great to me

Thomas Tallis (Tommy), Saturday, 3 June 2006 16:44 (nineteen years ago)

i've realized that i pretty much hate anything that gets overheated praise from a certain sector of ilx that i would have had a lot more (too much) time for a few years ago (cf. oh, i dunno, gnarls barkley). i'm about as alienated from the radio as i've ever been. i no longer feel any sort of connection to the "london pirate radio continuum," after realizing sometime in 2005 that grime officially stopped having anything to do with dance music in early 2003 and we have plenty of wack rapping over shitty synthbeats in my own country. i really have no idea what is going on in indie rock at the moment, and i don't think i'd care to find out. i feel like i've come full circle with my rock listening, which now comprises about 35% metal and its derivatives and 35% weirdo crap, just like high school and college. (with another 30% devoted to random crap in various genres that i hear and like.) i'm actually both more (lotsa good stuff this year) and less (still so much crap) interested in rap that i have been in a while. 80% of everything in the wire remains more interesting to read about than listen to. electronic music bores the shit out of me with a handful of exceptions. given my job i spend far more time listening to and seeing local music than ever before. oh and the last time i tuned in to mtv i felt a weird sensation of vertigo.

that being said, i am still more obsessed with music than is probably healthy.

jewess harvell (dubplatestyle), Saturday, 3 June 2006 16:47 (nineteen years ago)

i really have no idea what is going on in indie rock at the moment, and i don't think i'd care to find out.

Tell me about it. Who are these bands?

trees (treesessplode), Saturday, 3 June 2006 16:56 (nineteen years ago)

i'm not tryin to hate on it, mind you, i'm just completely oblivious to what's going on on the ground. that's lack of time and (maybe) age more than anything else.

jewess harvell (dubplatestyle), Saturday, 3 June 2006 17:03 (nineteen years ago)

plus it seems like two of the biggest influences in 2006 are modest mouse and neutral milk hotel, both of whom i liked in their day but bands i would never think to build an aesthetic around.

jewess harvell (dubplatestyle), Saturday, 3 June 2006 17:04 (nineteen years ago)

i really just want to listen to this ALL DAY LONG:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gyD98eilvw4&search=tyr


(i have no idea if this is evolution or not. could be!)

scott seward (scott seward), Saturday, 3 June 2006 17:08 (nineteen years ago)

I've been in full-scale seek mode for a solid 4 or 5 years. This was after a 5 year period of not following new music, and listening almost entirely to blues.

But nowadays, just when I think I've heard it all, the plates shift and an entire universe of music reveals itself.

Lately, I've been gravitating towards:

Anything Brazilian. Tropicalia is great and all, but there's so much more. I've been digging Joyce, Chico Buarque (especially his collab with Ennio Morricone), Francis Hime, Hyldon, Adrianna Calcanhotto, Clara Nunes, etc. Can never get enough of Joao Gilberto or Caetano Veloso.

Pop. Cheap Trick, Db's, Bongos, Field Music, Big Star's Radio City (constant rotation for 15 years), early Bee Gees (Horizontal & Odessa).

Psych. Erkin Koray. Electronic Hole/Beat Of The Earth/Our Three Minute Standard Tune. New Comets On Fire.

And I grab an awful lot of CD-R releases off of Soulseek in the Free Folk, Volcanic Tongue-endorsed music spectrum.

Brooker Buckingham (Brooker B), Saturday, 3 June 2006 17:23 (nineteen years ago)

Erkin Koray is my new guitar hero. Find a copy of Elektronik Turkuler and check out the chops. He's like George Harrison, Richard Thompson and Sandy Bull all rolled up into one. Lots of raga riffing.

Brooker Buckingham (Brooker B), Saturday, 3 June 2006 17:25 (nineteen years ago)

the other thing that really pleases me these days, to my great surprise: guitar chops! straight jazz gtr records, eeeeaaaasy late 60's through mid seventies vibe (Wes Montgomery lately) just GET me in all the right spots

Thomas Tallis (Tommy), Saturday, 3 June 2006 18:04 (nineteen years ago)

At the beginning of 05 I was beginning to come out of my Talib Kweli-listening hiphop purist shell. I listened almost exclusively ro rap, with some schlocky neo-soul on the side. I liked a few mainstream R%B hits but god forbid I spend money on that crap. I also owned Elephant and A Rush Of Blood To The Head (in other words I was a total stereotype.)

Now that mainstream R&B crap makes up probably half my listening. Rap makes up a quarter or so, and the rest is pretty random. In any event, I'm a lot more open to whatever.

Dr. Rodney's Original Savannah Band (R. J. Greene), Saturday, 3 June 2006 20:16 (nineteen years ago)

RpercentB!

Dr. Rodney's Original Savannah Band (R. J. Greene), Saturday, 3 June 2006 20:23 (nineteen years ago)

Whoever mentioned Steve Roach = yowsa.

Anyway, as for me...more a focusing of specific tendencies of listening, I'd say. So for instance I've become a dedicated purchaser of nearly everything on Time-Lag and Foxy Digitalis, in large part because their approach and aesthetic fits a lot of what I like. But that's more 'active' purchasing, as opposed to evolution of taste, which as far as I can tell remains a combination of random 'oh that's nice' about a slew of stuff that charts and more thorough contemplation of long-established favorites, plus enjoying all sorts of this and that that I end up with thanks to all them promos. So far my favorite album of the year is by Tool and I am not surprised at all.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 3 June 2006 20:27 (nineteen years ago)

Peter Green's Fleetwood Mac and Little Feat, mostly due to recommendations given here.

Ben Harper, Warren Haynes, Derek Trucks, Dolly Parton, Hank Williams - all mostly because I finally decided to learn to play guitar.

My long running interest in the blues continues to increase, same for The Band, The Allman Brothers, Lynyrd Skynyrd, Johnny Cash, Kris Kristofferson.

P!nk: I think I'm in love. Such a straight-shooter.

Songwriters from all genres.

shorty (shorty), Saturday, 3 June 2006 21:14 (nineteen years ago)

Charalambides: turned onto them after reading Byron Coley's recent review in The Wire.

ILM turned me on to Scott Walker. Thankyou!

Otherwise mainly "devolving", I guess? Listening to much of the same musics I've always loved with greater frequency though no time or interest for indie rock. Completely out of touch with current hip hop/r&b. Those old Cure records never sounded better.

Jay Vee's Return (Manon_69), Saturday, 3 June 2006 22:01 (nineteen years ago)

Dance music/electronica

thatoldsoul (thatoldsoul), Saturday, 3 June 2006 22:05 (nineteen years ago)

Delayed reply to Tommy re: Steve Roach...

I don't really know his music, but I've been meaning to check it out -- you're not the first to recommend it. In fact, there's a Steve Roach and Robert Rich collaboration I've been thinking would be a good place to start (even though I started an ILM thread a while back to express my dismay at the terrible, terrible AMG review).

Delayed reply to RS re: Singing Yoga Instructor... Yaargh!

Paul in Santa Cruz (Paul in Santa Cruz), Saturday, 3 June 2006 22:44 (nineteen years ago)

Got into a mixtape circle and picked up terrible habit of evaluating songs based on how/where/if they would fit into a mix, grew out of that just as quickly thank god.
Can't seem to get a bead on any genre or buy into anyone's extra-musical mythos and b.s., which is good and bad.
dance music/electronica. I still don't know how to mainline it, getting my info secondhand from ILM, which is good cos it's kept that whole world vast and unknowable and fresh, even while being exposed to accompanying ILM dance vet burnoutism. I truly hope I never know the difference between house and techno. Prick my ears up at hip-hop again, after the corny requisite 98-2002 hiatus I'm full steam ahead, more or less, though it will take a long time to get back in 'fighting shape'. I've found my appreciation for mushy adult contempo goes disturbingly deeper than I consciously realized. Hungrily downloaded 'Almost Paradise' last week, and salivate at the Time-Life 'Ultimate Love Songs' box set...the search for irony has come up empty. Ah well.

tremendoid (tremendoid), Saturday, 3 June 2006 23:17 (nineteen years ago)

Charalambides: turned onto them after reading Byron Coley's recent review in The Wire.

Oh and not my writing about them, eh? THE NERVE. ;-)

being exposed to accompanying ILM dance vet burnoutism

I read that as 'burritoism,' which seems sensible enough.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 3 June 2006 23:46 (nineteen years ago)

Rediscovering my teenage love for Frank Zappa, after a decade of thinking he was lame (this is what indie rock does to young minds).

adam (adam), Saturday, 3 June 2006 23:46 (nineteen years ago)

I've basically been getting really into mid-late 90s rap from places other than New York a lot and trying to get a better perspective on how to think about it all, stuff that people used to talk about in high school but i don't see talked about anywhere else (i.e. ilm, blogs, magazines). Its a big world out there and I just got through a burnout period. I still listen to new rap but I'm not as concerned with keeping up as I was at one point. I like tremendoid's take on dance music and I agree; its fun when it seems bigger than you can get a handle on.

I never have as much fun listening to my ipod as I do listening to chicago radio (when its a DJ like boolumaster or dj lil john or dj kid scratch or...pretty much anyone they get on weekends/evenings on 92.3 or 107.5 and sometimes even 96.3. I also like '100.3 Love FM' for a pretty solid mix of 70s dance/soul music) or going to (certain) clubs. I'm afraid I'm getting less interested in albums or mp3s as my engagement with this shit goes.

deej.. (deej..), Saturday, 3 June 2006 23:54 (nineteen years ago)

I'm not gonna ask what makes that seem sensible enough xxpost

tremendoid (tremendoid), Saturday, 3 June 2006 23:55 (nineteen years ago)

I find listening to at least an hour and no more than about 4 hours a day of music keeps me on an even keel. I am happily not trying to keep up w/anything and at the same time i've been paying attention to everything i do ear a lot more. It could be my lurking on ilm has shaped my music taste a little too much, but i have less time to search out stuff (no money and nowhere to buy anything either) right now. I think I am now (mostly) totally uninterested in indie rock and I have ilm in part to thank for that (don't think ilm could do that for anyone anymore!) Anytime i try to check out an old favorite it tends to sound shoddy and embarrassing. I don't even like Sonic Youth anymore.

I have been listening to orange juice-haircut 100-vic godard and the subway sect-scritti politti-human league-prince-feelies etc esp. while doing dishes, but that type of thing has been going on for about 2 years now (not indie is it?). Lately i;ve had bass music, speed limit comps and killer techno tapes in the car (not much radio to speak of). Lfo, 808 state, "done in by the forces of nature", "3 feet high and rising", a guy called gerald peel session, "loaded"/"come together" and pills thrills and bellyaches - that summery blissy vibe. I hear a fair amount of new country and/or soul/sixties pop/ac while working at a radio station.

Besides listening while doing the dishes or cooking i listen stuff to stuff walking to class or around town on the ipod. I have a music room for more serious, focused listening w/records and cds. If i listen to records its usually something mellow like the carpenters, durutti culumn, willie nelson or some old country.

I still tend to download more music than I'll ever need and forget about it after a week or two (world domination enterprises anyone?).

I just finished "love saves the day" and have been thinking about delving into more disco beyond stray mp3s and a couple of records.

artfurnishes (artdamages), Saturday, 3 June 2006 23:58 (nineteen years ago)

I ignored music for a couple years because Austin stores are not that amazing and I an over mp3z. A friend of mine finally opened a good one. I have been buying used vinyl like a crackhead buys crack.

I have been buying a lot of old Detroit house that I ignored when it was new. I went dancing to it, but I did not buy the records. I have been getting into old Rick Wade, Theo Parrish, Rick Wilhite, and KDJ stuff. I learned that Black Riot/Day In The Life by Todd Terry is a godlike 12". I have been buying reissue disco stuff on Westend and other 70's bootleg disco records. I managed to get ahold of a decent clutch of early chi house records. 70's Patrick Cowley is tits. Deodato is fantastic, as is Irakere. I have been listening to a couple old 60's R&B comps, various jazz records. 70's Soul. I have also been getting into hip hop quite a bit. De La, Biz Markey, Schooley D, Son Of Bazerk, Ultramagnetic MC's, Nas, J. Rocc... I am bananas for that J Dilla Donuts record.

It isn't like I am discovering this whole new world of music. Music seems like a pretty dead end to me. I feel like I have figured out the big picture of music and now I am filling in the outlines with specific examples. At this point I do not think that there are very many western genres that I have not heard. I would like to know more about traditional Japanese music, weird 70's space moog jazz and African music, but that is about it.

I am much more interested in film and visual art at the moment.

Disco Nihilist (mjt), Sunday, 4 June 2006 00:24 (nineteen years ago)

My appetite for music between, oh, 1999-2003 was stronger than than it had been for a long time, but it's been downhill since then, speaking in terms of new things coming along regularly to keep me passionate. That Pitchfork piece on African music last year gave me a nice focus for thinking about African music again seriously. More seriously than when I dabbled ten years ago.

I've also been listening to a lot of Split Enz, having finally listened beyond True Colours and History Never Repeats. Although there's no real reason to call it nostalgia -- it's totally new to me, and it's not like, say, Jack White is breaking new ground -- I do feel like we're going through a relatively fallow period. Not to say that I don't still get excited, but it seems to be more of the d/l era way: random singles that come and go pretty quickly.

pleased to mitya (mitya), Sunday, 4 June 2006 00:31 (nineteen years ago)

xxxpost deej yeah being in a hermetic cocoon of good taste gets real old; after a few days of cycling through albums, even great ones(I drive alot) I yearn for the 'audience' dynamic from radio or MTV or something. Dipping into the megastations is still its own kind of exhilirating for short bursts, until you remember how numbing the rotation can be. I feel like for all the technological hoohaw going about changing the face of consumption I'll always be a mass Mass MASS culture symbiote to a degree by virtue of when I was born, and wonder if younger art-attuned people(maybe your generation but probably younger) will even have that monkey on their back.

tremendoid (tremendoid), Sunday, 4 June 2006 00:44 (nineteen years ago)

not that this has much to do with your post, I just saw the word radio and ran with it obviously.

tremendoid (tremendoid), Sunday, 4 June 2006 00:47 (nineteen years ago)

Ned - point me to your Charalambides writing.

Oh - and after reading the latest Wax Poetics I've decided to give Jay Dee another listen - mainly his instrumental work. Really want to hear the comps of demos he did and will probaby buy Donuts this week.

Jay Vee's Return (Manon_69), Sunday, 4 June 2006 01:21 (nineteen years ago)

They are much the same, but I have started listening to opera again.

youn (youn), Sunday, 4 June 2006 02:11 (nineteen years ago)

I seem to be becoming more interested in hearing things that remind me of classic rock and 60s and 70s rock and pop, in general, but that fold in sounds and approaches from later styles in a way that I like. Shiina Ringo (solo and with her band Tokyo Jihen) is the best example of an artist I've gravitated toward who does this. Often it's a matter of having a melodically strong (or maybe I really mean lyrical) song at the core, but combining it with twisty-turny arrangements or unexpected combinations of instrumental timbres. Oddly, I'm not all that interested in going back and listening to some of the music I am partially being reminded about. One problem is that I don't have much idea where to go for more music like this. (Almost all the indie rock I hear that has been discussed in terms of working largely out of a 70s pop sensibility ends up sounding awful to me.)

Nothing too much has changed for me regarding salsa, although this has been a good year for salsa CDs, at least partly due to the fact that Michael Stuart's Back to da Barrio was released (my pick for the best new salsa album to come out since I started listening in 1997). I have a pretty good idea of what sub-variants I like and don't like, so I don't have the same sense of having large blocks of music I want to hear just to get oriented in the genre. Salsa has a privileged position for me, because of my dance connection to it (even though that's been very on again off again in recent years) and I like keeping relatively close tabs on at least one genre.

In general I don't have much interest in difficult listening. I like hearing virtuosity (or at least some recognizable skill)in the service of good writing or good improvisational ideas. (Yes, I know that is vague to the point of almost being meaningless.)

Rockist_Scientist (RSLaRue), Sunday, 4 June 2006 02:18 (nineteen years ago)

Ned - point me to your Charalambides writing.

Heheh, I tease sir. And Byron's a better writer than I. Most of what I've written is on the AMG, and is somewhat scattershot. I need to update the biography!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 4 June 2006 02:19 (nineteen years ago)

"the other thing that really pleases me these days, to my great surprise: guitar chops!"

This is my chance to second that emotion. and not just guitar chops either. all kinds of chops. i'm just really enjoying the whole virtuoso thang right now. must be all that power metal i listen to.

oh, and one more thing i am digging lately: silence! (this is where ned comes in and sez: ah, very wise, grasshopper.) but my new job is music-free (for the most part), the first job i have ever had that was music-free, and i'm enjoying it. right now anyway. (course at home i've got the fam all around me in our little house all the time, so i might just be enjoying the opportunity to think a little on my own. don't tell the fam that though.)

scott seward (scott seward), Sunday, 4 June 2006 02:38 (nineteen years ago)

yeah silence! i have a vegetable garden like brian eno so i know all about it (i do admit i have gardened w/headphones though).

artdamages (artdamages), Sunday, 4 June 2006 02:49 (nineteen years ago)

I was enjoying silence years ago before it became all hivemind trendy.

Rockist_Scientist (RSLaRue), Sunday, 4 June 2006 02:52 (nineteen years ago)

Scott and Rockist, I too have been really digging the fusion in a surprising way lately -- usual suspects like Return to Forever and Mahavishnu Orchestra that I just didn't dig all that much in my earlier jazz days. In the last year or two I've been heavy into electric Miles though so I think it's the natural proression. Chops in general too - I've given up my resistance to them. I'm also really liking some straight metal. Lamb of God is rocking my shit.

I also continue to find myself more and more amazed by the richness and variety of Brazillian music and I generally really like the aesthetic of a lot of it.

Oh yeah, I'm also getting more into super dramatic soul like the Stylistics and the Delfonics and all those other -ics bands.

I generally find myself cycling between preferring heavier and lighter sounds, both in playing music and listening. And also I do increasingly appreciate silence, like a few other people have said.

Abbadavid Berman (Hurting), Sunday, 4 June 2006 03:08 (nineteen years ago)

(this is where ned comes in and sez: ah, very wise, grasshopper.)

Quite right. It's addicting.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 4 June 2006 03:11 (nineteen years ago)

i feel like i've come full circle with my rock listening, which now comprises about 35% metal and its derivatives and 35% weirdo crap, just like high school and college. (with another 30% devoted to random crap in various genres that i hear and like.)

Without trying to figure out these percentages right now, I think this is basically my situation too. Factor in 'inexpensive hardcore punk when I get round to buying it off people' and the fact that the Pearls And Brass album is STILL my fave LP of 2006, six months after I heard it...

DJ Mencap (DJ Mencap), Sunday, 4 June 2006 04:18 (nineteen years ago)

I being somewhat young and not a serious follower of dance music for only like, a year and a half at most. have evolved very much into following and listening to much of that. A big thing was, after buying turntables and seeing Jeff Milligan DJ, getting me from an enjoyer of minimal techno and microhouse into a full persuer of it. That was like a year ago, which has just grown more and more since then which I will attribute to it's constant growing popularity. My pursuit of most rock and certainly with hip hop went down significantly to make way for this, for techno and house. And I've never been much on following current music untill recent which I blame on this site and Philip sherburne's blog. This led to a decrease in IDM and early 2000's experimental techno and what have you. Ambient, avant-garde and otherwise have been on and off for awhile, and is in bad need of a revival, along with early 90's warp and whatnot ambient techno.

Thomas Mehlt (Tokyo Ghost Stories), Sunday, 4 June 2006 05:41 (nineteen years ago)

techno and the mountain goats

jergins (jergins), Sunday, 4 June 2006 06:33 (nineteen years ago)

evolvement, huh? for me it's been anti-evolution as much as evolution, with that same silly junior high desire for perfect pop. the gigantic r&b and hip-hop singles of right now come closer to that ideal than anything.

i can't think of a single rock band that i'd want to listen to. it's the first time in my life (okay, since fourth grade) that that's happened.

jergins (jergins), Sunday, 4 June 2006 06:37 (nineteen years ago)

i've also found a hell of a lot of satisfaction in my world music dilletantism, a track here and there on shuffle.

jergins (jergins), Sunday, 4 June 2006 06:41 (nineteen years ago)

Can't say there's been too much actual evolvement in this particular department, but at least I've tried recently to give the benefit of a doubt to some artists I previously been pretty much (not hating, but) just plain ignoring. So seeing some invitingly inexpensive compilations, I've bought some - Roy Ayers and Dolly Parton, e.g. Well Ayers I "get", to an extent. Parton's, though, was probably not the best kind of comp...
Otherwise, I feel I'm continuing to "evolve away" from most of "young upcoming" guitar combos, at least those thrust onto the screen via VH1, for instance.

tiit (tiit), Sunday, 4 June 2006 06:56 (nineteen years ago)

I can't bear anything even the slightest bit intrusive anymore. Stuff doesn't necessarily have to be quiet, loud and hypnotic works just as well. As long as I can think on top of it.
A real delicate flower, me.

Dan I. (Dan I.), Sunday, 4 June 2006 09:13 (nineteen years ago)

jazz jazz and more jazz for me this year so far. major re-vision of my negative opinion abt the dreaded 70s FUSION continues, though I'm steering clear of stuff like RTF and Mahavishnu and exploring the CTI and Blue Note labels in depth. Every other day or so I'll try a recent rock or pop thing, think "oh that's interesting" and then never go back to it. eavesdropping on my kid's musical diet keeps me current too: like the new Pink, but Ashley Simpson is a bad joke.

m coleman (lovebug starski), Sunday, 4 June 2006 10:54 (nineteen years ago)

see, that CTI type stuff from the 70's, the blend of funk/african/quiet storm/r&b with jazz, was always the ONLY non-trad 70's jazz i listened to in the past. well, i did always like the Mahavishnu stuff. but now i am giving time to the stuff that pretty much defined fusion to me like return to forever and weather report and the like. i also still have about 10 pat metheny records that i got at the dump that i am planning to listen to. i always ignored him completely.

thanks to the dump, i am now a Brand X fan. though they were proggy, not really fusiony. Moroccan Roll is a really good album. Apparently, there is, like, a three year period where i can really dig phil collins. cuz wind & wuthering and trick of the tail are from around then too, and they are the only genesis albums that i enjoy listening to.

scott seward (scott seward), Sunday, 4 June 2006 11:35 (nineteen years ago)

Brand X were sorta popular w/ the Zappaphiles back when I worked at a record store. I went through a brief fusion phaze around 1976 just before punk broke, bought some RTF Weather Report and Birds of Fire, quickly grew out of it all except electric Miles, of course. The CTI stuff missed me in the 70s, I thought it was all about Bob James and "Mr Magic" but boy was I wrong (again).

m coleman (lovebug starski), Sunday, 4 June 2006 11:44 (nineteen years ago)

yeah, there are tons of gems to be discovered there.

scott seward (scott seward), Sunday, 4 June 2006 11:53 (nineteen years ago)

i mostly listen to jazz from the 30's/40's/50's, but when i wanted to go into the 60's and 70's my go-to labels were always impulse, flying dutchman, cti, and kudu. i was just playing Joe Farrell's Upon This Rock the other day. I love that record. Me and 4000 acid jazz deejays, i guess. when there was an acid jazz. is there still an acid jazz?

scott seward (scott seward), Sunday, 4 June 2006 11:59 (nineteen years ago)

dunno. extacy jass? was CTI cocaine jazz? cuervo gold/fine columbian jazz maybe? been listening to Joe Farrell's Moon Germs myself, can't quite make up my mind about it. too much flute. need to get his s/t CTI debut w/McLaughlin that must be pretty hott.

m coleman (lovebug starski), Sunday, 4 June 2006 12:05 (nineteen years ago)

Then there's bizjazz.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 4 June 2006 12:11 (nineteen years ago)

upon this rock is nuthin' but funkyass breakbeats and guitar jammage.

scott seward (scott seward), Sunday, 4 June 2006 12:16 (nineteen years ago)

Scott and Rockist, I too have been really digging the fusion in a surprising way lately

I may be misunderstanding this, but I have not been getting back into fusion. Unless you've heard Tokyo Jihen and consider them kind of fusion, which wouldn't be unreasonable, since they do take a lot from jazz (though often with more funk/disco than I remember hearing in fusion), and there's one song ("Blackout") where the guitar reminds me of Caravan.

Rockist_Scientist (RSLaRue), Sunday, 4 June 2006 12:25 (nineteen years ago)

("Blackout" is also a terrific song.)

Rockist_Scientist (RSLaRue), Sunday, 4 June 2006 12:26 (nineteen years ago)

Oh sorry, Thomas Tallis was the one who said that, not you.

Abbadavid Berman (Hurting), Sunday, 4 June 2006 12:26 (nineteen years ago)

i'm pretty sure my own personal "evolvement" will involve me embracing the skronk. i have never been a big freejazz fan. for all my love of noise and extremes, i am a pretty trad dad and moldy fig. there have always been exceptions, like pharoah and late trane and archie and some others, but i have hardly dipped my toe into the water, really. my idea of a great 70's jazz record is rhythm willie by herb ellis and freddie green. i am so ilm-unfriendly when it comes to jazz.

scott seward (scott seward), Sunday, 4 June 2006 12:29 (nineteen years ago)

oh man, speaking of 70's jazz, Rockist, I hope like hell that you own a copy of the album that Wayne Shorter made with Milton Nasciemento, *Native Dancer*. What a great record. Yeah, I can see myself going further into South America before I ever buy another Ornette Coleman album. Maybe someday, Ornette!

scott seward (scott seward), Sunday, 4 June 2006 12:34 (nineteen years ago)

My jazz evolvement never gets off the ground. I was expecting to like more of the Aum Fidelity/Thirsty Ear/Hopscotch axis than has turned out to be the case. I still keep track of what William Parker and some others are doing, but it's not shaking me out of fundamentally not quite getting (or getting with) jazz. On the other hand, I seem to like faux jazz elements in non-jazz more than I ever have before.

x-post:

Hmmmm. Will have to maybe look into that. (Very definite there.)

Rockist_Scientist (RSLaRue), Sunday, 4 June 2006 12:37 (nineteen years ago)

someone gave me this weird sampler of Swedish jazz - new stuff - and it was like Ikea coffee-table jazz! it was pretty cool. very minimal and quiet. i didn't even think i would listen to it, but it's nice to read to. or relax to.

scott seward (scott seward), Sunday, 4 June 2006 12:42 (nineteen years ago)

i'm pretty out of touch now with current indie, current radio-"alternative" I'm hating as much as the nu-metal "alternative" of six years ago; I'm finding myself only able to listen to music I enjoyed when I was a teenager, so it's the Cure, the Smiths, and Roxy Music all the time now. I've finally bought all of Bryan Ferry's 70's solo albums and am really enjoying those along with Peter Gabriel's first two solo records, and the Free Design. So this is a full-tilt regression into the past, either out of fear of having a baby or just getting sick with everything else, dunno.

also, I like the Jane Birkin covers record. So i guess I'm old.

kyle (akmonday), Sunday, 4 June 2006 12:57 (nineteen years ago)

I am almost completely ensconsed in "comfort-food" mode when it comes to music these days; I am almost actively against hearing anything that isn't by someone I either am not already a fan of or is plopped in front of my by top-40 radio. I just don't feel the urgency to seek out new music the way I did 10 years ago, especially considering the legion of albums that have been released that I've heard and liked but don't actually own yet, or the missing gaps in various artists' back catalogues that I'm just now getting around to filling in (for example, I punted on purchasing PSB albums circa Very with the sole exception of Alternative and am just now discovering that I missed some really killer stuff).

Also I've been really getting into performing, so I haven't felt the need to scratch my musical itches with other people's recordings. What with doing opera choruses, singing in a professional church choir, and doing a 90s modern rock cover band with some coworkers, I almost don't have time to listen to other people's musical endeavors.

(Obviously there are exceptions, like Gnarls Barkley.)

Dan (Insular Little Man) Perry (Dan Perry), Sunday, 4 June 2006 13:07 (nineteen years ago)

Scott Seward's jazz taste is a lot like mine.

Abbadavid Berman (Hurting), Sunday, 4 June 2006 13:09 (nineteen years ago)

im having my own private minimal (trance) backlash, going to classic acid nights w/ really old djs (>30, can you believe it) and listening to electro techno. still not getting indie, undie, dance punk, hip hop, rnb, dnb and most of ibiza & electro house. thank god im not a professional music critic, lol

fez (fez), Sunday, 4 June 2006 16:55 (nineteen years ago)

i've also found a hell of a lot of satisfaction in my world music dilletantism

Very much ditto. (I'm talking about other stuff I listen to besides Afro-Latin, Arabic, and Greek, where I don't feel so much the dilettante.)

Rockist_Scientist (RSLaRue), Monday, 5 June 2006 01:06 (nineteen years ago)

lots of noise, drone & metal taking over from post-punk. It's great.

S- (sgh), Monday, 5 June 2006 02:38 (nineteen years ago)

I found myself getting gradually less and less interested in what club djs play in clubs and more and more interested in mix cds and podcasts, which seem to be much more adventurous in style. I totally gave up on grime but regained an interest in dancehall, which is probably what I listen to most on headphones these days. Vinyl-wise I pretty much cut out buying anything other than techno, hard sender-style techno. I enjoy playing it out, and it seems so much more urgent than most minimal house does these days.

Rap, I listen to albums for a week and then get bored of them. The only ones I really liked much this year were "The snap movement" and "King" but even they couldn't sustain interest beyond that one week threshold.

Jacob (Jacob), Monday, 5 June 2006 03:26 (nineteen years ago)

I've been mostly living in a hotel 4/5 nights a week since February, with a bust iPod, a bust laptop and a bust Discman at home. Hence I've all but stopped listening to music outside of the weekends, unless it's a gig I've been reviewing (or Eurovision). The surprising thing is that I haven't particularly missed it.

mike t-diva (mike t-diva), Monday, 5 June 2006 10:18 (nineteen years ago)

Oh yeah, I'm also getting more into super dramatic soul like the Stylistics and the Delfonics and all those other -ics bands.

Man last year I listened to so much Stylistics - have you got Fabulous, their toes-in-the-water-of-disco album? Totally, totally wonderful

Thomas Tallis (Tommy), Monday, 5 June 2006 12:43 (nineteen years ago)

I'm totally realigning HOW I listen which is having a profound affect on what I listen to. It's good fun.

Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Monday, 5 June 2006 13:21 (nineteen years ago)

are you moving to the sofa?

scott seward (scott seward), Monday, 5 June 2006 13:31 (nineteen years ago)

I think over the past year or so there's been a general trend in my listening habits towards more melodic and rootsier musics, away from ostensibly avant-garde or experimental things. More than half of my music purchases are older releases and re-issues. I've been getting into '60s and '70s folk- and country-rock, stuff like Gene Clark, Flying Burrito Brothers, Fairport Convention, some Dylan stuff, the Byrds, Bert Jansch, Van Morrison. I've also been getting into jazz that works with folk materials like Mihaly Dresch, Jenny Scheinman, and Michael Moore's Jewels and Binoculars group. Even the new releases I'm buying seem to be drawing more on that kind of sound. There are lots of exceptions of course.

o. nate (onate), Monday, 5 June 2006 15:27 (nineteen years ago)

Over the past couple of months I've been listening to every album that was namechecked in whichever chapter of Rip It Up And Start Again I was reading. I finally finished that up and lately I've been digging Cold Blood and Ten Wheel Drive - it's been hot out the past couple weeks and twelve-piece horn/rock/jazz bands from 1970 fit right into the weather.

LOL Thomas (Chris Barrus), Monday, 5 June 2006 15:33 (nineteen years ago)

Hmm... The move hasn't been so much in terms of sounds, but in terms of degrees. I've always liked psych and garage rock, it's just now I keep looking for weirder and weirder outposts. I'm getting back into industrial, which was what I listened to primarily in high school, but I was always more into the metal/industrial stuff then and now I'm more into the noise/dub/industrial. Still, it's been a bit odd going back through things like Machines of Loving Grace and trying to decide if it's worth selling...
I've detached in a big way from indie rock, since I never liked Modest Mouse or NMH all that much (whoever said that this was the dominant form of indie above was totally OTM). They're just kinda... boring to me now, something I wouldn't have thought was possible.
I've stoked my power pop/rock love to a white hot flame, finally filling out my collections of dBs, Blackhearts, Runaways, Dirtbombs, etc.

To the guy above who was just starting to love Erkin Koray, check out Baris Manchao (I'm not sure if it's spelled that way, but that's how it's pronounced). Also psych-Turk stuff that's really good. I'm looking for more stuff like that, but I've had a hard time finding any that's as good. There's a lot of crappy Turkish music out there...

It is funny how the zeitgeist seems to have turned, possibly because of the giant number of sharity blogs, to Brazil, psych and early electronic.

Oh, and through ILM I've come to love all sorts of stupid pop that I would have dismissed out of hand before.

As for jazz, coming from always loving the mid-60s through mid-70s jazz of nearly all stripes (afro, free, electric, fusion), I've found myself wandering back to things that I always thought were too square, like Dizzy and Armstrong... Maybe I'll dig into '80s jazz next, having always kinda dismissed it as an empty period...

Kinda like the delta at a river, I think my tastes are just getting broader and broader.

js (honestengine), Monday, 5 June 2006 16:01 (nineteen years ago)

Like js just said, I think expansion has been one of my key themes for the last four years or so. filling in all sorts of cracks in terms of genres, buying back records I stupidly sold in my youth, that sort of thing.

since 2005 my newfound love for stuff like Fannypack and Lady Sovereign has been surprising some people who know me.

the torrent world has led me to listen to a much higher percentage of live shows and outtakes as well.

sleeve (sleeve), Monday, 5 June 2006 17:24 (nineteen years ago)

I have mainly stopped listening to records and started getting excited about the ideas of records.

Eppy (Eppy), Monday, 5 June 2006 18:07 (nineteen years ago)

i started liking/listening to robert wyatt

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Monday, 5 June 2006 18:09 (nineteen years ago)

I deleted most of the earnest and/or slow songs from my iPod and substituted FUN SUMMER JAMZ, it's all LL Cool J and rai and Marisa Monte for me as I drive through town with my windows down

Haikunym (Haikunym), Monday, 5 June 2006 18:12 (nineteen years ago)

I found that I was in love with a Go-Betweens song, "Darlinghurst Nights," and saddened, really affected, by the death of Grant McLennan--he was about my age. Whatever it is that people have always said the Go-Betweens did, it never did it for me but that song does it.

edd s hurt (ddduncan), Monday, 5 June 2006 18:54 (nineteen years ago)

mattc, tracklist plz

deej.. (deej..), Monday, 5 June 2006 19:36 (nineteen years ago)

more pop, more disco-y stuff (but not a lot of actual disco-era disco), more rap, more songs, less albums, more always more handclaps

Huk-L (Huk-L), Monday, 5 June 2006 19:47 (nineteen years ago)

My music tastes have't evolved in any direction, I think, just become more of the same - a new hot-topic-emo band or two to join the ones I liked already, japanese boybands now there's no big UK or US ones to distract my attention (not entirely a musical thing but there's good pop songs in there too), more and more minimal bobbins (i've decided I fall on the minimal rather than the electro side), a lot of early/mid nineties eurodance (mostly new-to-me). I'm still trying and failing to catch up on indie-canon stuff, maybe one day I'll decide it's pointless to feel guilty about never having got into the Pixies or whoever, but I haven't got there yet. Generally, though, indie (and postrock and 'electronica' and genres of that sort) is becoming more and more a comfort&nostalgia thing, well-known records that don't require effort to listen to rather than new and exciting sounds.

permanent revolution (cis), Monday, 5 June 2006 19:52 (nineteen years ago)

Somewhat ridiculously, I seem to have developed a sudden interest in gypsy music since starting this thread. (At least, I've discovered two gypsy singers I expect to be buying things buy in the near future, and I've rarely ever bought anything gypsy.)

Rockist_Scientist (RSLaRue), Monday, 5 June 2006 20:04 (nineteen years ago)

I'm looking for more stuff like that, but I've had a hard time finding any that's as good. There's a lot of crappy Turkish music out there...

I agree. Some Seyfeten Sucu (sp?) is pretty good.

Rockist_Scientist (RSLaRue), Monday, 5 June 2006 20:30 (nineteen years ago)

When I was younger, I developed a theory (generously labeled) that committed music listeners had collections that looked like exponential curves, in that it grows slowly, slowly, slowly, and once it reaches a critical largeness goes through the roof. The formula would be something like Aggregating-Music-Knowledge + Increasing-Purchasing-Power = Huge-Music-Collection around age 30. Whether or not I was way off base with that concept, it seems to have been true for me: I've more than doubled my record collection in the last couple of years. Even so, I don't think I had it right, because I couldn't have accounted for the tremendous increases in access to music through mp3blogs, slsk, etc, and in corresponding increases in data storage capabilities. That is, I owe my big record collection to my computer more than to my wisdom or riches (this is all relatively speaking of course). Anyway, to answer the question, since I've gotten so much more new music, I've had to become very disciplined in forcing myself to listen to stuff that comes in and more diligent in making sure things don't fall through the cracks. I feel a bit like professional reviewers must feel like, with big stacks of CDs to go through every week. Which is neat, but since that isn't actually my job, I have a feeling that sometime in the future, I'm gonna get off that train. Maybe by the time we have an "07/08" thread, I'll be talking about having only downloaded one song a month.

Billy Pilgrim (Billy Pilgrim), Monday, 5 June 2006 20:31 (nineteen years ago)

still loving minimal techno sounds but really digging into disco and house. Loving the full arrangements of late 70s disco and in particular the edits that Todd Terje has been doing of said tunes.

Minimalism and maximalism.

Also rediscovering the hardcore (Black Flag etc..) of my youth. Poppy punk from my youth is making a big comeback with me.

Sabbath love is still going strong and an infatuation with the new Boris album without analyzing it too much.

hector (hector), Monday, 5 June 2006 22:20 (nineteen years ago)

I've rediscovered and made peace with the music of my formative years (80's/synth-pop/club music) and I no longer feel the slightest twinge of guilt when dropping completely obvious crowd pleasers from this era in my DJ sets.

jeffery (jeffery), Monday, 5 June 2006 22:28 (nineteen years ago)

I'd like to note that Brooker's post upthread marks the FIRST mention on ILM of Adriana Calcanhotto (incl. the early variant spelling Calcanhoto). She gets no respect--doesn't even have an AMG entry. Meanwhile she has easily as much great stuff as Maria Rita, Bebel Gilberto, Cibelle--heck, she even beats Marisa Monte, for my money (not really a fan)--even if her albums tend to be uneven... I've been meaning to do a TS of the contemp. Brazil chanteuses but can't rouse up the gumption.

So yeah, evolve w/Adriana C. Me I've been listening to Vinicius Cantuaria, who treads so closely to smooth jazz it feels downright dangerous. Horse and Fish especially good.

These Robust Cookies (Robust Cookies), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 03:59 (nineteen years ago)

Lately – or maybe over the last two years – I’ve come to the realization that 60% of what I get in the mail is stuff that I’m simply not into really, as far as personal taste goes: indie, nu post-punk, undie rap, boring folk, etc. Maybe one out of every three CDs fills a void of noise or weirdo stuff that I actually enjoy listening to (though I like that Jennifer O’Connor record I got the other day quite a lot so far). Really I guess what I need is a big bundle of cash to fall from the sky (or a decent computer and a Limewire membership) so I can investigate current interests and the stuff I’ve been reading about over the last couple years but never get around to getting into and/or affording (sure, some of it I could score via promo gravy train, but I feel lame trying to review stuff in genres I know nothing about): Brazillian music, metal of all varieties (Boris, Black Sabbath beyond the basics), Taylor Deupree, Richard Chartier, Liars, Mimeo, Dipset (I have a couple records tho), Iraqi music, African music, John Fahey, obscure tiny label odd-ass limited edition CD-r stuff, more I can’t remember right now. Can’t get excited about much indie these days either – was given a shot at reviewing the new Built to Spill but shrugged. I thurst for extremes. Actually I’ve picked up a couple great records over the last few months in stores or via friends – Sunn O))), Bleeding Kansas, Aphex Twin’s “Druqks,” Mr. Airplane Man, Throbbing Gristle, etc. – but never can spend quality time with them due to life and freelance music writing listening, which makes me wonder if I’d even be well served by getting into this newfangled downloading stuff the kids are all about these days.

Raymond Cummings (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 11:44 (nineteen years ago)

indie rock needs to start rocking again for me to show interest. and the indie-pop i hear is way too anemic and boring to take seriously. is that why so many indie-rock fans are turning to metal? and indie-rock musicians?? must be. i'm talking about american stuff for the most part. there are probably twee spanish and latvian indie-pop bands doing good stuff that i've never heard though. there always are. wasn't canada supposed to be saving indie-rock? did they drop the ball? again! those bastards!

scott seward (scott seward), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 11:55 (nineteen years ago)

Totally STOPPED listening to/'keeping up with' most forms of dance/electronic music (apart from NOIZE, which I guess remains my main 'area of focus') - I've still not heard anything that MOVES me in the same way as the classic Basic Channel/Chain Reaction recs (esp. Maurizio)

fairly disenchanted w/ nu r'n'b-pop etc after the glory days of missy, aaliyah, destiny's child etc - 'one thing' seemed like the last of it's kind, a sweet endpoint. most of the chart music i hear these days seems to me totally undistinguished - no, downright BAD - British indie-rock - yer razorlights, and zutons, and killers, and editors etc. - just the most piss-weak watery mung. hehe xpost - like the trend-hopping indie kids i'm just starting to get down w/ doom-metal-sludgerock etc - been listening to 'dopesmoker', lots of sunno))), the new boris rec which i love. i'm totally into ppl biting sabbath in any/all directions.

after working in a jazz rec for three years or more, I kind've swore off the jazz for a while, but recently i've been re-digging some old faves - peter brotzmann esp.

Ward Fowler (Ward Fowler), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 12:20 (nineteen years ago)

scott see you nibbling around the edges on this jazz thing-just relax Miles with red-philly and trane-Lester and Billie-Hampton hawes and Kenny drew-Red Rodney (another philly guy)T Farlow/B Kessel/Chuck wayne-anything with Freddie Hubbard (2nd only to John Burks Gillespie-sing along with Helen Merrill-Start your nap with lee konitz -One hundred more to go!! but the real deal is within your grasp--JAZZTRUK

scott seward (scott seward), Saturday, 10 June 2006 17:24 (nineteen years ago)


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