Vince Welnick from the Grateful Dead RIP

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Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 3 June 2006 19:57 (nineteen years ago)

Welnick. He played with them in the '90's, long after their days as psyche-pioneering upstarts. He played with the bloated Dead.

cosmo vitelli (cosmo vitelli), Saturday, 3 June 2006 20:41 (nineteen years ago)

SAMBA IN THE RAIN BRAH

jinx hijinks (sanskrit), Saturday, 3 June 2006 20:49 (nineteen years ago)

Also played with The Tubes and Todd Rundgren, so it says. His ties to the Dead obliterate all that, though. Go to the Haight to find out.

jake frye (cosmo vitelli), Saturday, 3 June 2006 21:00 (nineteen years ago)

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Still, RIP

The Jazz Guide to Penguins on Compact Disc (Rock Hardy), Saturday, 3 June 2006 21:06 (nineteen years ago)

the curse lives on.
HORNSBY U R NEXT.

rip Vince.

jinx hijinks (sanskrit), Saturday, 3 June 2006 21:10 (nineteen years ago)

Worse than the Spinal Tap drummer spot. Sheesh.

According to one poster, he got fucked over by the Dead after Jerry died:

"Do you hear me, Phil? Do you hear me, Mickey? Do you hear me, Bobby? Do you hear me, Bill? That's all he fucking wanted, was to play music with you guys. He loved you and you fucking treated him like shit. To see your "heartfelt" message on Dead.net today sickens me to no end, you fucking bunch of lying hypocrites."

J (Jay), Saturday, 3 June 2006 22:24 (nineteen years ago)

Some monster keys work on the debut Tubes album. RIP

Joe (Joe), Saturday, 3 June 2006 23:13 (nineteen years ago)

he played a hippie fest here in maine every year for a long time. always seemed like a nice guy. RIP.

Emily B (Emily B), Sunday, 4 June 2006 03:53 (nineteen years ago)

Somewhere right now Vince is playing a cheesy keyboard line and angles are cringing. Here is the full post from the webmaster at VinceWelnick.com:

"Vince Welnick is gone. He was the sweetest human I have ever known. Kind, generous, funny and warm hearted. He was my friend. He was talented, so fucking talented. I was lucky to know him. So, damned lucky to know him and Lori. God bless you, Lori. I'm so, so sorry.

Vince never got over the cruel way that the Grateful Dead band members treated him after Jerry died. He never got over the sorrow of losing Jerry, facing his own demons without his friend and could not understand how the remaining fellow band-members treated him like shit the past several years.

I cannot possibly describe to you the hurt and anguish he felt when "The Dead" decided to have a "Family Reunion of the SURVIVING MEMBERS" of Grateful Dead, a band that he was no mere sideman for its last five years, but a full member of by order of Jerry Garcia. How damned insulting was it to have a "surviving members family reunion" and not invite your new brother? He was the proverbial red-headed step-child to them. Did it occur to you how that hurt him, Bill, Bob, Phil, Mickey? The truth is that you selfish bastards did not care if it hurt him. He's a big boy, he just had to get over it, right?

I remember seeing Todd Rundgen at the "Walk Down Abbey Road" show in Concord, CA around the same time when that "Family Reunion" was booked. He asked how Vince was, and I told him about this "family reunion" concert of SURVIVING MEMBERS and how Vince was specifically not invited, but in fact was playing a gig at a campground not far from the show. Todd said, "Uh, Vince isn't dead, isn't he a surviving member?" He got the irony. I got the irony, but I also saw the hurt like none of you can believe. Vince kept a brave face about it, trying to remain cheerful, hoping that somehow, someday the tide would turn, the phone would ring and it would be Bob Weir calling him. Calling just to say, "How are you, Vinny?" Something. Anything.

I am certain that Jerry would have been completely disgusted with the terrible, cruel and despicable way that Vince was treated by the band, the management, etc. following his death. The lack of compassion displayed toward him, the ostracizing he felt burned and hurt Vince very deeply. He was a sensitive, sweet soul. He just couldn't handle the rejection. He and I spent hours and hours talking about these things, trying to get the demons out, which led to him pouring out his heart when that show happened, right on this website.

I told Vince to get his story out, tell everybody what happened on that Ratdog bus, tell them everything. Tell them how Bob and Ratdog sent him, having overdosed on the tour bus, to a hospital alone in the back of a taxi cab, without a friend in site, and had him checked in as John Doe, while they played the show anyway. Tell them, Vince how you were despondent over facing life-threatening cancer, a simultaneous diagnosis of Emphysema, and instead of staying home to try to heal and get immediate surgery, how you chose to give the fans the ill-fated summer 95 Dead tour. Tell them how nobody in the band even acknowledged, though they damned well knew, that Vince was very sick.

Tell them Vince, I said, how you didn't want to let the fans and the band down, and how eery it was on the tour knowing all these people who were your "friends" never asked how you were while on the road or even stepped aside with you to acknowledge that struggle you were facing. Tell everyone, Vince, how when you returned from the road, and Jerry was dead, how you were flung into the hell of depression facing lung disease, cancer and now your friend dying, and how you saw your world crash around you ever more when months later the band unceremoniously announced it was over. Tell them Vince, tell everyone and get the demons out.

Even more amazing than the band being cold to him, I could never understand why so-called "dead heads" and "fans" spent hours coming into this site and fucking with Vince, taunting him, posting evil, nasty lies about him. I finally had to turn this into a registration-only website to help shield my friend from the cruelness that some people took sport in on the message boards. Vince could take a joke, he could take a lot, but he finally couldn't take any more.

I had long, heart to heart talks with him for months before he told some of that story to you here, though not even close to all that detail. Vince didn't want to hurt the other guys, he just fucking wanted to play with them.

Do you hear me, Phil? Do you hear me, Mickey? Do you hear me, Bobby? Do you hear me, Bill? That's all he fucking wanted, was to play music with you guys. He loved you and you fucking treated him like shit. To see your "heartfelt" message on Dead.net today sickens me to no end, you fucking bunch of lying hypocrites. There is nothing left to hold back on now. Is it so hard to return the man's phone calls? Is it so hard to understand what he went through back then and how far he had come since that dreadful night on that Ratdog bus? Where is the love? Where is the compassion? Hippy love? Bull-fucking-shit. You guys could have been nice to him, invited him along, not made him feel like an ass and like he was bugging you if he called. Are you happy, Cameron? Are you? Go fuck yourself. "

Suzy Creemcheese (SuzyCreemcheese), Sunday, 4 June 2006 04:38 (nineteen years ago)

Hippy love? Bull-fucking-shit.

true dat

Q('.'Q) (eman), Sunday, 4 June 2006 05:00 (nineteen years ago)

that's pretty fucked up.

kyle (akmonday), Sunday, 4 June 2006 13:10 (nineteen years ago)

To flesh out that tour bus story, Short Shorts Bobby Weir gave Welnick a shot to play keyboards in Ratdog (Weir's shitty post-GD band - who wants all-Bobby?). Welnick ODed before the show even started; now, after about 15 years of dealing w/ a doped-up Garcia (and the last 5 years Garcia doing this w/ Welnick), I think Weir was just done w/ addicts.

Basically, Garcia was the only one who wanted Welnick around; after Garcia died, no one was willing to put up w/ Welnick (and they probably saw Welnick as a bit of an enabler).

But yeah, Vince was a good fit for Tubes.

Suzy Creemcheese (SuzyCreemcheese), Sunday, 4 June 2006 14:25 (nineteen years ago)


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