For fans of Throbbing Gristle... a question..

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Hey there... so I'm really getting into Throbbing Gristle's music and I'm wanting some music reccomendations from you fans of TG. Don't assume that I know nothing about "industrial" music as I've been a fan of Skinny Puppy and all those sorta bands for years. It just took me a long time to really get into TG. Now I love them...

So what else do you hardcore TG fans love to listen to that might be along the same lines? Electronic music particularly...

Thanks.

― erehwon (greentypewriter), Sunday, 4 June 2006 01:11 (nineteen years ago)

Einsturzende Neubauten and early Test Dept. are fun. I was never a fan of Psychic TV, but Coil is one of my favorite bands ever. Early Swans. Merzbow/Masonna/other noise. Merzbow's done a record with Genesis P. Orridge, as I recall. "Perfect Pain" or something.

At any rate, none of them are really "like" TG, but I don't think it's a terribly big stretch to say that fans of one have a reasonable chance of enjoying the other.

― vartman (novaheat), Sunday, 4 June 2006 01:20 (nineteen years ago)

Coil, Cabaret Voltaire

― latebloomer (latebloomer), Sunday, 4 June 2006 01:20 (nineteen years ago)

Coil. And Legendary Pink Dots, though they're a bit different...

― trees (treesessplode), Sunday, 4 June 2006 01:22 (nineteen years ago)

the normal, thomas leer/robert rental, fad gadget. similar to the more melodic elements of TG. I second the neubauten and swans shouts. the residents, maybe?

― simon 803 (simon 803), Sunday, 4 June 2006 01:46 (nineteen years ago)

S.P.K.
Nurse With Wound

― Q('.'Q) (eman), Sunday, 4 June 2006 02:09 (nineteen years ago)

chris & cosey

― pher (pher), Sunday, 4 June 2006 02:51 (nineteen years ago)

ditto on Thomas Leer and Robert Rental's the Bridge. Originally on TG's label industrial, should be easy to order the CD online. The record vacilates between slightly more accessible stuff dominated by either Leer or Rental, and amazingly beautiful ambient/industrial noisescape type stuff.

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Sunday, 4 June 2006 04:25 (nineteen years ago)

Very very different in overall sound, but not so much in effect: Sun Pandaemonium, by Hecker

― Thomas Tallis (Tommy), Sunday, 4 June 2006 04:44 (nineteen years ago)

TEH AFEX TWINS

― chaki (chaki), Sunday, 4 June 2006 05:10 (nineteen years ago)

get a copy of "the elephant table album" and "i hate the pop group"

plus thorax-wach, SPK, heldon's agneta nilsson, etc.

― GOD PUNCH TO HAWKWIND (yournullfame), Sunday, 4 June 2006 05:18 (nineteen years ago)

Cluster '71 is even better than this reviewer makes it out to be

― milton parker (Jon L), Sunday, 4 June 2006 05:28 (nineteen years ago)

whats the most accessible TG record for a novice?

― molly (bulbs), Sunday, 4 June 2006 06:45 (nineteen years ago)

You know what? I cannot find my CD of Cluster '71 and this bothers me an awful lot. I am not the sort of person to lose CD's and now I'm trying to figure out if I sold it for some reason. What the hell might I have been thinking? It's not fair.

― Has-been Hash Brown (Bimble...), Sunday, 4 June 2006 06:47 (nineteen years ago)

Greatest Hits
xpost

― Marmotdeth (marmotwolof), Sunday, 4 June 2006 06:53 (nineteen years ago)

cluster/kluster/conrad schnitzler, yeah, them too

― GOD PUNCH TO HAWKWIND (yournullfame), Sunday, 4 June 2006 08:33 (nineteen years ago)

molly - "20 Jazz Funk Greats" is a good place to start..

― Jack Battery-Pack (Jack Battery-Pack), Sunday, 4 June 2006 10:20 (nineteen years ago)

virgin eye blood brothers

hive mind

suicide

slicer by wolf eyes

― Ward Fowler (Ward Fowler), Sunday, 4 June 2006 10:40 (nineteen years ago)

whats the most accessible TG record for a novice?

When I was a TG "novice", I found 3rd Annual Report in a used record store. I had never heard of them, "industrial music", or anything more outre than Echo and the Bunnymen. I bought it 'cause the cover kinda puzzled me, and I wanted to know what the hell the "report" was. And it was only $2.

Naturally, the album confused the hell outta young me -- a sensation I later realized is rare and to be savored -- but I didn't immediately sell it back. I thought that 3AR was all just a bunch of awful disorganized noise...or was it? 20 spins later, I was totally addicted, not only to the record, but to confusion.

Sonic Youth got it mostly right with the title, Confusion is Sex, but not quite. Confusion is enjoyable and worth much pursuit, but you need to take a big enough hit to get your trip on. Thus, confusion = MDMA.

Don't work your way into TG via 20JFG. It's a great record, but it's what a friend of mine used to call a "tasty 1/2-hit". It's not enough to really hurt your brain, and if you take another tab later in the night, it's gonna be a waste. Go for the gold. Pack your bowl tight with TG bud, not the TG shake-n-seeds product.

Of course, none of this applies if your pantry is already stocked with Masonna CDs. However, I'd presume that, just like an aficionado of 70s Chicago soul will be already quite familiar with James Brown, no lover of noise ain't gonna already have a good handle on TG.

― Shoes say, yeah, no hands clap your good bra. (goodbra), Sunday, 4 June 2006 17:56 (nineteen years ago)

Early 80s Dark electronic "pop"

― jäxøñ (jaxon), Sunday, 4 June 2006 20:41 (nineteen years ago)

the first psychic tv album and their second, "dreams less sweet," are total classics i think. they later became a very different band.

― Michael J McGonigal (mike mcgonigal), Sunday, 4 June 2006 21:11 (nineteen years ago)

Seconded, Mike.

Also seconded: Coil, SPK (early), Pink Dots, Neubauten.

also that early Lustmord CD on Dark Vinyl, can't remember the title right now.

― sleeve (sleeve), Monday, 5 June 2006 02:06 (nineteen years ago)

Get thee one Leichenschrei by SPK. More consistent than any album TG put out, but just as baffling & unnerving. Einsturzende's Drawings of Patient O.T. and Halber Mensch are worthy companions as well.

"In The Nursery" from Dreams Less Sweet was probably the last time Genesis truly sounded like an escaped mental patient...

― Edward III (edward iii), Monday, 5 June 2006 12:33 (nineteen years ago)

I'm currently listening to 'Luke The Drifter' by Hank Williams. Excellent album from a true original. I'm not pissing you about, I just thought you should know what someone who was there is 'now' listening to.

― tolstoy (tolstoy), Monday, 5 June 2006 19:25 (nineteen years ago)

Nice piece Shoes. It was a little different for me, I'd picked up the buzz on them early on, but couldn't figure out what that would sound like until I bought 2nd Annual Report. I can still sense the disorientation and mental confusion it created way back then. I found myself having to question everything around me as it shifted the reality perspective several notches off the dial. I'm not a fan of nostalgia love-ins but I like to think that those getting into it today as an 'innocent' will develop an interesting route through life. It had that impact on me, but then everything was up for grabs back then.

― tolstoy (tolstoy), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 05:18 (nineteen years ago)

Oops syntax error, sorry!

― tolstoy (tolstoy), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 05:18 (nineteen years ago)

fixed it

― electric sound of jim (and why not) (electricsound), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 05:20 (nineteen years ago)

search out Landscape's "From the Tea-Rooms of Mars to the Hell-Holes of Uranus". there's a great track (Norman Bates) at bumrocks.com. i just found the album and it's pretty amazing.

― jäxøñ (jaxon), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 05:24 (nineteen years ago)

Thankyou kindly, sir.

― tolstoy (tolstoy), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 06:12 (nineteen years ago)

whats the most accessible TG record for a novice?

When I was a novice, the one that got me into them was "Heathen Earth". I bought it out of curiosity - it looked weird & interesting, didn't get it at all at first, but something kept me coming back & listening to it again. Soon enough, it was one of my favourite records.

For more music in a similar-ish vein, I'd go along with whoever suggested Coil, as well as (early) Cabaret Voltaire.

― Pashmina (Pashmina), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 09:26 (nineteen years ago)

Early Cabaret Voltaire. "Cluster '71". Faust. Tangerine Dream. Stockhausen. Robert Rental & the Normal, "Live at West Runton Pavilion". Hawkwind, "Space Ritual". Early SPK. Early Neubauten.

― Who Are You... The Nerve... I Wanna Get Out, I Wanna Get Out (Dada), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 09:38 (nineteen years ago)

i find jg thirlwell (jim foetus) to always be fun and interesting. try 'scaping foetus off the wheel". in my opinion it's his best, esp. 'i'll meet you in poland".

― R.Kane (arcane), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 15:03 (nineteen years ago)

Heh! 'Scraping Foetus Off The Wheel' used to be one of my favs. Has it stood the test of time, I might look it up again?

I'm intrigued you include 'Space Ritual' Dadaismus, definitely the rest.

― tolstoy (tolstoy), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 16:14 (nineteen years ago)

"Space Ritual" = weird electronic noises + repetition + bare breasts

― Who Are You... The Nerve... I Wanna Get Out, I Wanna Get Out (Dada), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 16:29 (nineteen years ago)

i think 'hole' by scraping foetus off the wheel has stood the test of time. in fact, 'clothes hoist' sounds better to me now than it did in '84.

― stirmonster (stirmonster), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 16:33 (nineteen years ago)

one year passes...

Should I pay $40 to see TG live? (they play in paris next week)

― poortheatre, Friday, 30 May 2008 13:37 (seventeen years ago)

Yes.

― libcrypt, Friday, 30 May 2008 17:33 (seventeen years ago)

Fuck yes, yes you should!

― snoball, Friday, 30 May 2008 17:41 (seventeen years ago)

absofuckinglutely!

― stirmonster, Friday, 30 May 2008 17:42 (seventeen years ago)

Hells yes!

― Alex in NYC, Friday, 30 May 2008 20:53 (seventeen years ago)

Cosi is my new myspace friend.

― Nate Carson, Friday, 30 May 2008 21:31 (seventeen years ago)

definitely!

― dan, Saturday, 31 May 2008 04:29 (seventeen years ago)

Look, I'd go to any damn thing if Genesis was involved. The PTV3 show here last year was a revelation and three times better than I'd expected. You'd be a damn fool to miss this.

― Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You, Saturday, 31 May 2008 08:33 (seventeen years ago)

nine years pass...

https://roughtrade.com/us/events/throbbing-gristle-40th-anniversary-event-genesis-breyer-p-orridge-signing-q-a?mc_cid=34eb47e0ff&mc_eid=264297e452&utm_campaign=34eb47e0ff-EMAIL_CAMPAIGN_2017_11_10&utm_medium=email&utm_source=Rough+Trade+Subscribers&utm_term=0_aad2092322-34eb47e0ff-121639921

OK, let's put this here..

Gen is doing a signing at Rough Trade New York. Plus a question/answer session.

I know some good questions, but would they get answered? hmmmmmmm

― Mark G, Friday, 10 November 2017 15:52 (seven years ago)

Gen is going through chemo right now.

― kurt schwitterz, Friday, 10 November 2017 16:38 (seven years ago)

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