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I am leaning heavily towards #2.

Dan (Although Really It's #3) Perry (Dan Perry), Sunday, 4 June 2006 13:37 (nineteen years ago)

i've only heard/got 3 and 5. and 3 is one of my favorite records, period.

geoff (gcannon), Sunday, 4 June 2006 13:40 (nineteen years ago)

Volume 1:

01 N.R.G. Feel The Fury (Piano Mix)
02 Urban Shakedown Bass Speaker
03 Yolk Bish Bosh
04 S.X. 3 Put It In
05 3 Thieves & A Liar Audio Fear
06 Kaotic Chemistry Illegal Subs
07 Yolk Music 4 Da People
08 Jem 77 Forbidden Planet
09 Core, The High In The Jungle
10 T-Boom! Feel That Feelin'
11 Mixrace Too Bad For Ya (Is 180 Too Fast For Ya)

Dan (And So On) Perry (Dan Perry), Sunday, 4 June 2006 13:44 (nineteen years ago)

Volume 2:

01 Cloud 9 You Got Me Burnin'
02 EOAD Love The Feeling
03 Hyper On Experience Imajika (Smiley Rock Remix)
04 Metalheads Kemistry
Featuring - Diane Charlemagne
05 Aphrodite Raw Motion
06 Cosmo & Dibs Star Eyes (Remix)
07 DMS S.O.S. (Gunshot Remix)
Remix - DJ Gunshot
08 Potential Bad Boy New Style
09 House Crew, The Euphoria (Nino's Dream)
Remix - Nino
10 Defender (2) Feel It (Bass) 2
11 Noise Factory Can You Feel The Rush

Dan (And So On) Perry (Dan Perry), Sunday, 4 June 2006 13:45 (nineteen years ago)

Volume 3:

1 Joint, The The Joint (5:47)
2 D'Cruze Want You Now (4:45)
3 Sonz Of A Loop Da Loop Era Breaks the Unbreakable (4:36)
4 Boogie Times Tribe The Real Hardcore (5:09)
5 2 Bad Mice Underworld (6:08)
6 Mixrace Mixrace Outta Hand (5:48)
7 DJ Hype The Chopper (5:30)
8 Omni Trio Mystic Stepper (6:48)
9 Hyper On Experience Lords of the Null Lines (5:18)
10 Austin Unity In Dub (5:49)
Remix - Krome & Time
11 Krome & Time The Slammer (6:08)
12 Blame A21 (5:34)
13 Foul Play Open Your Mind (6:21)

Dan (And So On) Perry (Dan Perry), Sunday, 4 June 2006 13:46 (nineteen years ago)

Volume 4:

1 Top Buzz Living In Darkness
2 Bay B Kane Wake Up
3 4 Horsemen Of The Apocalypse Drowning In Her
4 Origin Unknown Valley Of The Shadows
5 Omni Trio Renegade Snares (Foul Play Remix)
Remix - Foul Play
6 DJ Crystl Crystalize
7 Neuromancer Pennywise
8 S.L.M. Die Hard
9 Bonny & Highlander Summer Breeze
10 Cloud 9 Mr. Logic
11 LTJ Bukem & Tayla Bang The Drum
12 Metalheads Saint Angel

Dan (And So On) Perry (Dan Perry), Sunday, 4 June 2006 13:46 (nineteen years ago)

Volume 5:

1 Rood Project, The Thunder
2 Danny Breaks Dropping Science
3 Slipmatt Breaking Free
4 Q Project Champion Sound
5 Urban Shakedown Burning Passion
6 DJ Hype Roll The Beats
Featuring - MC GQ
7 DJ Mayhem Inesse
8 Renegade Terrorist
9 DJ Rap Spiritual Aura (DJ Rap Get Raw Mix)
10 S.L.M. Boof Dem!
11 Sunshine Productions Lonely
12 DJ Taktix The Way (V.I.P. Mix)
13 Deep Blue The Helicopter Tune (Rufige Kru Remix)
Remix - Rufige Kru
14 LTJ Bukem & Peshay 19:5

Dan (And So On) Perry (Dan Perry), Sunday, 4 June 2006 13:48 (nineteen years ago)

Volume 6:

01 Deep Blue The Helicopter Tune (Remix) (6:27)
Remix - Rufige Kru
02 D'Cruze Lonely (5:13)
03 Cloud 9 Blissful Ignorance (Remix) (5:58)
Remix - Tango
04 Boogie Times Tribe My Soul (6:36)
Co-producer - Krust , Roni Size
05 Blame & Justice Anthemia (Remix) (6:27)
Remix - Origin Unknown
06 Kings Of The Jungle Jungle Theme (Remix) (5:48)
07 Renegade Something I Feel (Remix) (5:38)
Featuring - Ray Keith
Remix - 2 Bad Mice
08 Lick Back Organisation Ruff N Rugged (5:16)
Co-producer - D'Cruze
09 Omni Trio Nu Grooves '94 (Remix) (6:00)
Remix - Deep Blue
10 Mickey James Nice N Deep (Remix) (6:14)
11 E-Z Rollers Rolled Into One (Remix) (7:29)
Remix - Droppin' Science
12 Flex & Fats Somebody (Remix) (5:05)

Dan (Never Really Warmed To This One) Perry (Dan Perry), Sunday, 4 June 2006 13:49 (nineteen years ago)

Volume 7:

01 DJ Force & The Evolution Ruffer
02 Jimmy J & Cru-L-T DJs In Full Effect
03 DJ Seduction On My Own (Slipmatt Remix)
Remix - Slipmatt
04 D'Cruze Bass Go Boom (Dope Remix)
Remix - D.O.P.E.
05 Krome & Time This Sound Is For The Underground
06 Sonz Of A Loop Da Loop Era Further Out
07 Slipmatt Hear Me
08 2 Croozin Code Red
09 Aphrodite You Take Me Up (A Zone Remix)
Remix - A Zone
10 Brisk Airhead
11 DJ Rap & Aston Vertigo
12 DJ Phantasy & Jack Smooth Dream On

Dan (Best Cover Of The Series) Perry (Dan Perry), Sunday, 4 June 2006 13:50 (nineteen years ago)

Volume 8:

01 DJ Red Alert & Mike Slammer The Ride
Producer, Written By - DJ Red Alert & Mike Slammer
02 Justin Time Help Me
Producer, Written By - Matt Carlton
03 DJ Slam Looking Into The Light
Producer, Written By - DJ Slam
04 Seduction & Eruption Break It Down
Engineer - DJ Seduction
Producer, Written By - Eruption , Seduction
05 DJ Trace By Any Means Necessary
Producer, Written By - Duncan Hutchinson , Justin Cohen , Pete Parsons
06 Justin Time JT Goes North
Producer, Written By - Justin Time
07 Brisk & Rebel Alliance (2) Floor Friction (DJ Brisk Remix)
Producer, Written By - Brisk , Rebel Alliance (2)
Remix - Brisk
08 Dougal & Seduction Cross Your Mind
Engineer, Mixed By - Seduction
Producer, Written By - Dougal , Seduction
09 Fokus On Line
Producer, Written By - P. Stokes , Pete Parsons
10 Sunshine Productions Take Me To The Top (Billy Bunter & JDS Remix)
Remix, Producer [Additional] - Billy Daniel Bunter , J.D.S.
Written By - Sunshine Productions
11 Citadel Of Kaos Warped
Producer - Jan Salisbury , Jason Cambridge
Written By - Jan Salisbury
12 Secrets Sunrise
Written By - Secrets

Dan (Thank You, Discogs.Com) Perry (Dan Perry), Sunday, 4 June 2006 13:51 (nineteen years ago)

Whatever happened to Yolk, anyway?

Dan (So So Good) Perry (Dan Perry), Sunday, 4 June 2006 13:54 (nineteen years ago)

Volume 8 looks tasty. I love that Jungle morphing into Happy Hardcore (or vice versa) sound.

breathny spears let me see the sex that you did. (noodle vague), Sunday, 4 June 2006 14:21 (nineteen years ago)

Volume 8 is pretty frickin' sweet, but my heart really lies with the beginning of the series; any given day could make 1, 2 or 3 be my favorite compilation ever.

Dan (D! M! S!) Perry (Dan Perry), Sunday, 4 June 2006 14:24 (nineteen years ago)

volume 5

volume 3: overrated (dubplatestyle), Sunday, 4 June 2006 15:14 (nineteen years ago)

Volume 3 by a pretty considerable margin (although 2, 4 and 5 are all excellent.)

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Sunday, 4 June 2006 15:14 (nineteen years ago)

There is no possible way that Volume 3 could be rated high enough. It's got six or seven of the best darkcore/jungle tracks ever on it.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Sunday, 4 June 2006 15:16 (nineteen years ago)

i stand by my contentious statement

jewess harvell (dubplatestyle), Sunday, 4 June 2006 15:25 (nineteen years ago)

That you secretly thought generic jazz/funk ambient sides on Rising High were better than all the above?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 4 June 2006 16:07 (nineteen years ago)

I think you guys might be sleeping on "Kemistry" by Metalheads and "Music 4 Da People" by Yolk.

Dan (WO) Perry (Dan Perry), Sunday, 4 June 2006 16:08 (nineteen years ago)

if there's a world where "terrorist" is jazz-funk, then sign my ass up for the next available spaceship.

jewess harvell (dubplatestyle), Sunday, 4 June 2006 16:10 (nineteen years ago)

Can we agree that, aside from "Helicopter Tune", 6 suck major ass?

Dan (Perhaps Even Colonel Ass) Perry (Dan Perry), Sunday, 4 June 2006 16:14 (nineteen years ago)

i still need to hear 4 and 6-8. 3 i have on tape, but tragically it broke after listening a couple of times. i should really get it on CD, huh? i like 5 the least, but i like a lot of the songs on it (if that makes sense).

i think i'd have to go w/2 too.

what about poo for the best of techno? how many are there? i have 3 and 4.

artdamages (artdamages), Sunday, 4 June 2006 16:55 (nineteen years ago)

There were at least 6 of those; my pick would either be 2 or 3.

Dan (Also: XL And Kaos Theory Comps) Perry (Dan Perry), Sunday, 4 June 2006 17:06 (nineteen years ago)

(I've got all 8 Speed Limits, 2-6 of the Best Of Technos, 2-3 of the XLs and Kaos Theory 4, BTW).

Dan (Ah, College) Perry (Dan Perry), Sunday, 4 June 2006 17:07 (nineteen years ago)

i'll rep for killer techno 1-3

artdamages (artdamages), Sunday, 4 June 2006 17:17 (nineteen years ago)

The XLs >>> Speed Limits. The 2nd Chapter esp. is a monster.

Volume 6 is the weakest, but there is more good stuff on it than just the Helicopter remix.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Sunday, 4 June 2006 17:27 (nineteen years ago)

I think Vol. 6 came out at about the time that hardcore/drum-n-bass was morphing into drum-n-blouse (aka Omni Trio's Haunted Science album) and I just wasn't feeling it.

I have much much love for XL-3, mostly because of "The Green Man" and "Hoovers And Spraycans".

Dan (Plus "DJs Take Control"!) Perry (Dan Perry), Sunday, 4 June 2006 17:37 (nineteen years ago)

(Haha I've never actually used "drum-n-blouse" here, have I? I basically mean that transition point when everything had softer edges and was super jazzy and muted, right before techstep and jump-up really took over.)

Dan (IE, The Aforementioned Omni Trio Album And Most Of Vol. 6) Perry (Dan Perry, Sunday, 4 June 2006 17:42 (nineteen years ago)

lol @ drum-n-blouse!!

jewess harvell (dubplatestyle), Sunday, 4 June 2006 17:42 (nineteen years ago)

personally i like volume 1. you can get most of the good stuff on volumes 3, 4 and 5 elsewhere and i was never crazy about volume 2 for some reason.

volume 1 does a good job of capturing this odd moment between breakbeat house and hardcore ... sort of like the ruff underground side of major breakbeat house acts like the shamen or the ebenezer goode guys.

also my older cousin gave me a copy on tape when i was a sophomore in high school and it pretty much changed my life.

renegade bear shot by cops on frat row (vahid), Sunday, 4 June 2006 17:50 (nineteen years ago)

for similar reasons i've always rated the "history of hardcore" comps over the "history of our world" comps.

renegade bear shot by cops on frat row (vahid), Sunday, 4 June 2006 17:52 (nineteen years ago)

most underrated hardcore comp OF ALL TIME

renegade bear shot by cops on frat row (vahid), Sunday, 4 June 2006 17:53 (nineteen years ago)

can you find those xl comps anymore? i have the american chapter.

artdamages (artdamages), Sunday, 4 June 2006 17:54 (nineteen years ago)

that sub base comp is up for 175 bucks on ebay

artdamages (artdamages), Sunday, 4 June 2006 17:56 (nineteen years ago)

wha? fuck that, just keep your eyes peeled. motherfuckers are just LAZY. it's not that bastard jd capshew is it? about three years ago every wherehouse records in the country had a copy of "sub base classics" in the bargain bin. i'm sure it's not that hard to find, if you don't need it today.

renegade bear shot by cops on frat row (vahid), Sunday, 4 June 2006 17:58 (nineteen years ago)

I don't think it's even that hard finding three seperate comps that cover like 90% of that!

Dan (LOL At Ebay Thieves) Perry (Dan Perry), Sunday, 4 June 2006 18:00 (nineteen years ago)

yeah, its been there for a while cause i think i saw you mention that comp a few months ago. i live in rural mn so i don't get out to the bargain bins much! xpost

artdamages (artdamages), Sunday, 4 June 2006 18:02 (nineteen years ago)

"that sub base comp is up for 175 bucks on ebay"

That's crazy.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Sunday, 4 June 2006 18:04 (nineteen years ago)

The five Drum & Bass Selections are the high point of Surburban Base/Breakdown and probably of the entirety of jungle.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Sunday, 4 June 2006 18:06 (nineteen years ago)

i mentioned that comp a LONG time ago ... i'll try to dig up the post.

dan is right, it's not really hard to cover 90% of it (hell, "history of hardcore vol 1" would cover about half!). but the hard-to-find tracks are just GOLD.

first, there's "mad ragga jon" - who MUST be jon carter of "monkey mafia" - doing an awesome diva-led house that switches between 4/4 and breakbeat passages.

second, there's the REMIX of dj ss "want you now", which sounds JUST like the most blissed-out reinforced records sounding moments of the dj assault catalog (cf gareth), stuff like "jungle love" and "sex on the beach", except five years or so before the fact.

third, the "hells bells" remix of "weird energy".

finally, there's a flow and energy to it, courtesy of AK1200, that's hard to beat.

renegade bear shot by cops on frat row (vahid), Sunday, 4 June 2006 18:07 (nineteen years ago)

i've got all the speed limit comps from ebay for 99 cents and i know all this stuff is still floating around at used cd stores and pawn shops, but i wish i would have been looking for this stuff 4 years ago when i lived near record stores.

i've got 2 copies of drum and bass selection 4!

artdamages (artdamages), Sunday, 4 June 2006 18:10 (nineteen years ago)

my original comments

The "History of Our World" comps were preceded by a pair of comps called "History of Hardcore" vols. 1 and 2. It's actually more like a history of Moving Shadow and Urban Shakedown, but these are also totally essential - especially the second, which has got renegade snares, the helicopter tune, cloud 9 by jazzmin, dred bass, terrorist, etc.

Also look for "Sub Base Classics" on Moonshine. It's in the same vein as the "History of..." comps, but it's got some real weird stuff too, like a D'Cruze remix by DJ SS that sounds like DJ Assault's entire playbook. It also gives you a real good feel for the "evolution" of hardcore by starting out with a bunch of breakbeat house tunes by Rachel Wallace and Mad Ragga Jon (Carter).

-- vahid (vfoz...), August 31st, 2002.

renegade bear shot by cops on frat row (vahid), Sunday, 4 June 2006 18:11 (nineteen years ago)

All right, reading this thread is too much -- *puts on XL - The Second Chapter -- ah, so beautiful.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 4 June 2006 18:13 (nineteen years ago)

I don't have Subbase Classics, but I do have (wait for it): CLASSIC SUBBASE and SUBBASE FOR YOUR FACE. Cute.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Sunday, 4 June 2006 18:13 (nineteen years ago)

i must have read it a few months ago! i look over all the old jungle/hardcore threads every few months. not stalking you - promise!

artdamages (artdamages), Sunday, 4 June 2006 18:14 (nineteen years ago)

mad ragga jon and rachel wallace are SO DOPE.

renegade bear shot by cops on frat row (vahid), Sunday, 4 June 2006 18:18 (nineteen years ago)

"XL - the second chapter" is more of a belgian-type thing, though, right? more along the lines of "breaks, beats and bleeps"?

renegade bear shot by cops on frat row (vahid), Sunday, 4 June 2006 18:20 (nineteen years ago)

History Of Our World came out in 1994.
A History Of Hardcore came out in 1996.

(Yes, XL2 is a big Belgianfest and is awesome.)

Dan (Hmmm) Perry (Dan Perry), Sunday, 4 June 2006 18:23 (nineteen years ago)

I wonder if there's any chance of finding those Kaos Theory compilations anywhere... They were basically my introduction to electronic dance music back when I was thirteen or so. That's where I first heard Krome & Time's "This Sound is for the Underground", which was my favourite hardcore tune back then, and still is.

Tuomas (Tuomas), Sunday, 4 June 2006 18:25 (nineteen years ago)

xpost

hm! weird!

the MUSIC certainly predates the stuff on "history of our world" ... doesn't it??

renegade bear shot by cops on frat row (vahid), Sunday, 4 June 2006 18:25 (nineteen years ago)

in my defense, "a history of hardcore" is a US reissue of a brit comp that came out in 95 on suburban base (as opposed to sub base USA), which itself was more or less a reshuffling of "the joint" (compilation CD), which came out in 1993, but yes, you win.

renegade bear shot by cops on frat row (vahid), Sunday, 4 June 2006 18:27 (nineteen years ago)

Speed Limit Volume 3 is The Joint just mixed. Nothing on A History of Hardcore is later than 93 though IIRC.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Sunday, 4 June 2006 18:29 (nineteen years ago)

The History of Harcore Part 1 tracks are co-existent to History of Our World Part 1 tracks.

Dan (From What I Remember) Perry (Dan Perry), Sunday, 4 June 2006 18:31 (nineteen years ago)

i'm going to lunch before the limits of my apparently limitless knowledge base become any more apparent.

renegade bear shot by cops on frat row (vahid), Sunday, 4 June 2006 18:32 (nineteen years ago)

(Yes, XL2 is a big Belgianfest and is awesome.)

YES IT IS. I had forgotten how much I loved Set Up System's "Fairy Dust." (Was there ever a perfect catchall name for That Kind of Techno Riff, ie something that sounds like grating metal played by hyperactive insects?)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 4 June 2006 18:36 (nineteen years ago)

MENTASM!

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Sunday, 4 June 2006 18:37 (nineteen years ago)

can we talk about other early moonshine releases? i don't like this: http://www.discogs.com/release/38835

artdamages (artdamages), Sunday, 4 June 2006 18:38 (nineteen years ago)

Tuomas there's a few pre-owned Kaos Theory compilations going on Amazon.co.uk

Konal Doddz (blueski), Sunday, 4 June 2006 18:40 (nineteen years ago)

Thanks!

Tuomas (Tuomas), Sunday, 4 June 2006 18:43 (nineteen years ago)

MENTASM!

I'll accept that. Of course what's so perfectly great about nearly all these songs is the beat, which more than anything else is just...well, indescribable.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 4 June 2006 18:44 (nineteen years ago)

OMG that Journey By DJs comp looks inexcusable. Only "Shift" isn't making my skin crawl.

Dan ("Song Of Life" On Extremely Tolerant Days) Perry (Dan Perry), Sunday, 4 June 2006 18:59 (nineteen years ago)

the only tracks on that first JbDJ comp i know are 'Kinetic', 'Shift', 'Song Of Life' and 'I Trance You' and I like all of those - enough to want to hear the rest of the mix even.

Konal Doddz (blueski), Sunday, 4 June 2006 19:08 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, "Kinetic" is on there??? I completely missed that!

Dan (Silly Me) Perry (Dan Perry), Sunday, 4 June 2006 19:34 (nineteen years ago)

sl140+bpm #3 for me (one of my two entries to the "draw album covers in mspaint" thread!) - "mystic stepper" is still thee best thing ever.

history of hardcore comps are great (I found the second one in smalltown new zealand!) - listen to them more than a history of our world v2 but nowhere near as much as v1 (speaking of which - where's matos? & when's marooned coming out?).

xl-3's pretty sweet - always fun to drop "keep the fire burning" into a set. really wish "hoovers & spraycans" lived up to the title slightly more.

hey, what about low price music's best of underground dance?

etc (esskay), Monday, 5 June 2006 02:43 (nineteen years ago)

I only own the first three. I heard #6 once and did not like.

#3 really is very strange music, it amps up so many of the cliches that they're not really recognizable anymore, they're just alien sounds. it's my favorite way (if not the most representative way) to introduce people to that period

will have to seek out #5

milton parker (Jon L), Monday, 5 June 2006 03:56 (nineteen years ago)

I like no. 5 a lot though 3's still the champ. I remember really liking 6 at the time too, very dark, but I should really go back and reassess them all.

Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Monday, 5 June 2006 20:15 (nineteen years ago)

Wow, I didn't think 6 was dark enough!

Dan (Explains The Panacea Love, Anyway) Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 5 June 2006 20:25 (nineteen years ago)

well, that's how it struck me at the time. not scary, just sort of minimalist and moody, which meant "dark" to me at the time. 5 is really kaleidoscopic--not the way 1 is (the ravey element is mostly gone), but for mature D&B it's pretty colorful. I thought 6 was something of a downturn from that.

Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Monday, 5 June 2006 20:28 (nineteen years ago)

2 was really disappointing at the time (hated it, sold it back) but later I realized how many songs on it I liked a lot in other contexts. by far my least favorite of the first six; 7 and 8 are hard to measure against them in that way.

anyone wanna rep for the unnumbered A New Beginning one? I also can't believe no one's mentioned Law of the Jungle, or to give it its full title, Speed Limit 140 BPM Plus Presents Law of the Jungle.

Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Monday, 5 June 2006 20:31 (nineteen years ago)

hmm, owning all of these would be pretty useful right about now.

Konal Doddz (blueski), Monday, 5 June 2006 20:32 (nineteen years ago)

I also can't believe no one's mentioned Law of the Jungle

But I hate that! (I actually do like it better than all the 'regular' entries in the series.)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 5 June 2006 20:33 (nineteen years ago)

haha I'm about to embark on a really stupid project that I could use them for myself. alas all my stuff's in Seattle while I'm in NYC. gotta fix that one of these days.

xpost Ned you're the one I was looking at when I typed that earlier

Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Monday, 5 June 2006 20:34 (nineteen years ago)

"Lipsing Jamring" oh you wonderful choon

Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Monday, 5 June 2006 20:34 (nineteen years ago)

Hooray!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 5 June 2006 20:34 (nineteen years ago)

Law of the Jungle is pretty ace, yeah. "Lipsing Jamring" opens a Grooverider mix I have and it's an awesome opener.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Monday, 5 June 2006 21:27 (nineteen years ago)

(Hey Tim, did you get that e-mail I sent?)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 5 June 2006 21:35 (nineteen years ago)

Moonshine was a really weird label.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Monday, 5 June 2006 21:48 (nineteen years ago)

You know, upon replaying the second half of volume #1 is REALLY FUCKING MONSTROUS. Take-a-chance-take-a-chance-take-a-take-a-chance-chance!

Jesus Dan (Dan Perry), Monday, 12 June 2006 16:29 (nineteen years ago)

3's highlight is "The Slammer", with that barking dog bit: bark! bark! say sumting! ruff! say sumting! ruff! (unintelligible)...

4's highlight is "Wake Up", with that Price Is Right intro...

hank (hank s), Monday, 12 June 2006 18:30 (nineteen years ago)


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