DJ'd an all Hip House set last night...the crowd almost killed me

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The Hip House made 'em angry, confused, violent even. Once they realized I wasn't being kitchy, but that I was playing 3 hours of Hip House...the crowd turned batshit crazy against me. I nervously stood my ground. Ice cubes chucking, middle fingers, evil looks, shouting, the whole bit.
Tough night...anyone else ever experience this sort of thing?

― astronautagogo (astronautagogo), Monday, 5 June 2006 08:22 (nineteen years ago)

Stan Boardman to thread.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 5 June 2006 08:26 (nineteen years ago)

what were you thinking?

― dog latin (dog latin), Monday, 5 June 2006 08:27 (nineteen years ago)

I dunno, I really love hip house...and when I saw how much people were dissing it....it just made me wanna take fast eddie's back to the death.
it seemed like the right thing to do.

― astronautagogo (astronautagogo), Monday, 5 June 2006 08:30 (nineteen years ago)

fair enough dude. you a brave mang.

― dog latin (dog latin), Monday, 5 June 2006 08:36 (nineteen years ago)

who doesn't like hip-house?

― Enrique IX: The Mediator (Enrique), Monday, 5 June 2006 08:37 (nineteen years ago)

Hiya!

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 5 June 2006 08:39 (nineteen years ago)

Er, no offence, bu if you realized the crowd hated what you were playing, shouldn't you have changed it to something else? If you're a DJ, generally your job is to give the people a good night, not make them angry.

― Tuomas (Tuomas), Monday, 5 June 2006 08:46 (nineteen years ago)

PLAY SOME STIFF!

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 5 June 2006 08:47 (nineteen years ago)

did you house them?

― Enrique IX: The Mediator (Enrique), Monday, 5 June 2006 08:48 (nineteen years ago)

You should have played "The House That Jack Built" by Tracie.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 5 June 2006 08:52 (nineteen years ago)

what kind of crowd was it? house or hip-hop?

or something else?

― Enrique IX: The Mediator (Enrique), Monday, 5 June 2006 08:53 (nineteen years ago)

Maybe they were expecting "Our House" by Madness.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 5 June 2006 09:01 (nineteen years ago)

and then astronautgogo realised he wasn't at a club but a wake.

― Konal Doddz (blueski), Monday, 5 June 2006 09:23 (nineteen years ago)

PLAY I WILL ALWAYS LOVE YOU YA BASS!

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 5 June 2006 09:26 (nineteen years ago)

*loops Amen Break*

― thatoldsoul (thatoldsoul), Monday, 5 June 2006 10:17 (nineteen years ago)

i'm kinda surprised that there are three whole hours *of* hip-house.

― Enrique IX: The Mediator (Enrique), Monday, 5 June 2006 10:25 (nineteen years ago)

There aren't, he played everything at 33 RPM

― StanM (StanM), Monday, 5 June 2006 10:29 (nineteen years ago)

Tuomas OTM. stop acting like yr some kind of savant for playing a hip house set (of all things) if the crowd were angry you should have changed the records. you sound like a bit of a dick to be honest.

― jed_ (jed), Monday, 5 June 2006 11:11 (nineteen years ago)

You did good. Salute to Those People Who Say Fuck You.

― breathny spears let me see the sex that you did. (noodle vague), Monday, 5 June 2006 11:27 (nineteen years ago)

Although you probably should've played an hour of Skacid in there somewhere.

― breathny spears let me see the sex that you did. (noodle vague), Monday, 5 June 2006 11:31 (nineteen years ago)

perhaps he only had Hip-hosue records on him

― grapple (grapple), Monday, 5 June 2006 11:49 (nineteen years ago)

I've had good times mixing in some hip-house inbetween my hip-hop and house records. Wee Papa Girl Rapper's Heat It Up produced by Adonis is great, all the DJ International hip-house records w/ Tyree, Julian Perez, and Joe Smooth (aka, not hip-hoppers trying to make house cuts but house producers making hip-hop cuts).

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Monday, 5 June 2006 12:02 (nineteen years ago)

hey some of the best hip house tracks are rappers making novelty or even parody songs! that rule doesnt hold

― karri miback (cruisy), Monday, 5 June 2006 12:07 (nineteen years ago)

i hope you played "grandpa's party". that could have been your theme song.

― scott seward (scott seward), Monday, 5 June 2006 12:23 (nineteen years ago)

what tuomas and jed said

― s1ocki (slutsky), Monday, 5 June 2006 12:44 (nineteen years ago)

It was a Sunday night so figured it would be a good opportunity to champion some underrated gems with a 40% hip house set. It was at a club on a night I never have played before. Maybe I should have clarified, to cover the whole 3 hours I also ended up playing anything I had on me with just a hip house cameo in it too.
Most all of the time I'm happy to play to the crowd. However, when I played my first hip house track, these girls looked me all crazy and then one came up and gave the, "This sucks, can't you play something GOOD?!" To which I always reply, "Define good please." Her answer?
Paul Van Dyk.
A couple homiesexuals were getting down to the vibe, while the rest of the crowd pretty much told me to fuck off. I started to enjoy the interaction and began flipping people right back.
So boo fucking hoo, I didn't play to the chach trance crowd for a change in favor of Tyree & Kool Rock Steady. I think it's good & healthy for any DJ to make an exception and punk rock once in a while.

― astronautagogo (astronautagogo), Monday, 5 June 2006 16:24 (nineteen years ago)

Hip House; why so bad and hated?

― js (honestengine), Monday, 5 June 2006 16:27 (nineteen years ago)

three hours of hip house = hell on earth.

― stirmonster (stirmonster), Monday, 5 June 2006 17:22 (nineteen years ago)

OK, I'm in the minority here, but I would've danced my ass off to a hip-house set.

― Tantrum The Cat (Tantrum The Cat), Monday, 5 June 2006 18:11 (nineteen years ago)

Bless you.

― astronautagogo (astronautagogo), Monday, 5 June 2006 18:15 (nineteen years ago)

Bridge & tunnel types vs hipster in icecube-throwing showdown!!!!

A plague on both your houses, really, although I'm a bit more sympathetic to the DJ... if the crowd was actively rude about his first track, they sort of deserved it - the dance music equivalent of the waiter tainting the food

― DougD (DougD), Monday, 5 June 2006 18:31 (nineteen years ago)

three hours of hip house = heaven on earth.

― lexurian (lexurian), Monday, 5 June 2006 18:37 (nineteen years ago)

I live in maybe the only city in the world where a certain strain of hip house is hugely popular and is spun in clubs every weekend, but even here I think 3 hours of it would be considered a bit much and before long people would be urging the DJ to put on some hip hop.

― Alex in Baltimore (Alex in Baltimore), Monday, 5 June 2006 18:43 (nineteen years ago)

get a life.

xpost

― stirmonster (stirmonster), Monday, 5 June 2006 18:44 (nineteen years ago)

Thing is: Hip-House has the best segue in-and-out-of tracks ever...

Into: Twin Hype "Do It To The Crowd" ("Shameek? LET'S HOUSE THIS CROWD!")

Out of: Jungle Brothers "I'll House You"

There. If you have these two songs, you can safely enter the Hip House zone, and - at a moment's notice -- safely exit the Zone.

― ((((((DOPplur)))n)))u))))tttt (donut), Monday, 5 June 2006 18:46 (nineteen years ago)

Not to mention Missy & Ciara's "Lose Control", to keep the If-It-Ain't-Popular-Now-You-B-Shit crowd at bay.

― ((((((DOPplur)))n)))u))))tttt (donut), Monday, 5 June 2006 18:48 (nineteen years ago)

xp to Al, OTM, they play hip-house all the time here although its probably different track selection, leaning more toward mid-90s booty stuff and remixes of rap songs, but yeah most DJs tend to mix it up with current rap to keep the crowd from flipping.

― deej.. (deej..), Monday, 5 June 2006 18:52 (nineteen years ago)

i play hip house with hip-hop influenced club music from the period like Todd Terry, Pal Joey, Renegade Soundwave, etc.

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Monday, 5 June 2006 19:29 (nineteen years ago)

i love tyree and fast eddie, but i agree--if you're the DJ, you should play to the crowd. if people really aren't having a good time, it's your duty to save the night and help them have a good time. if the dancefloor isn't moving, that's your cue to play something else.

i almost threw in the towel the other night when i was at a party and some dude, after fucking up like three segues in a row, started scratching over a kompakt speicher track. it sounded so bad, and i was so appalled, that i thought, right then and there, that enough was enough. if the dj is fucking up, i just go home. i don't have the tolerance to stick around the way i used to.

― geeta (geeta), Monday, 5 June 2006 20:09 (nineteen years ago)

The hip house tracks I play have gone over of, but they are few. My favorite is the B side of 'I wanna Be Rich' by Calloway. Does that count as hip house? I have to agree with geeta, when I DJ, reading the crowd drives my set, if I can't get people to dance to disco, I play italo, or old house etc, but I rarely play hours of the same style. Could someone play hours of hip house and have the set build to a peak; I mean it would seem anticlimactic.

Speaking of Pal Joey, can he have a thread of his own?

― Jacobs (LolVStein), Monday, 5 June 2006 20:29 (nineteen years ago)

i would've just walked out of the joint had i been asked to play Paul Van Dyk. right back to my trailer.

― Konal Doddz (blueski), Monday, 5 June 2006 20:30 (nineteen years ago)

xpost to geeta, there's a fine line, and I say this as one of the more accomadating djs around. Imagine you hire a plumber to do what a plumber does. He gets to your house and you realize the problem isn't the plumbing but the electricity. Can you expect him to fix the wiring? This usually isn't a problem, usually I won't even accept a party if I know before hand they're gonna want something I can't (or won't) offer, and with CDs I bring a wide enough range of stuff that within my realm of interests, if one thing isn't working, I can go in another direction, but often the crowd is like "yo you got reggae?" then what do you do? No choice but to stand your ground...or go home.

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Monday, 5 June 2006 20:33 (nineteen years ago)

xpost

OBVIOUSLY YOU FORGOT TO HOUSE THEM

― jinx hijinks (sanskrit), Monday, 5 June 2006 20:36 (nineteen years ago)

it's such a shame that hip-house isn't the best genre in the world. it totally should be.

― Tracey Hand (tracerhand), Monday, 5 June 2006 20:42 (nineteen years ago)

My idea of hip house is Marky Mark & the Funky Bunch's "Good Vibrations". How close to/far from the hip-house archetype is this? Also, Astronautagogo, any chance of you making a mix to upload?

― naus (Robert T), Monday, 5 June 2006 21:21 (nineteen years ago)

I think it's good & healthy for any DJ to make an exception and punk rock once in a while.
Absofukenlutely. Literally playing punk rock would be perfect, if you can get paid beforehand.

Also joining the...

― Pal Joey appreciation ..treehouse (blunt), Monday, 5 June 2006 21:29 (nineteen years ago)

I usually drop the odd hip-house tune into the middle of my techno/house/detroit sets that I do, and it usually slays. That's to a more accomodating crowd though, I guess.

― tylero (tylero), Monday, 5 June 2006 21:32 (nineteen years ago)

"Good Vibrations" is about as pop (which is to say, dusted with early-'90s Eurohouse -- hello, "Ride on Time!") as hip-house got (and popular!). It's not a good indication of the genre's sound (I'm sure the DJ International crew would call it "rap-house," even though the diffrence between rap- and hip-house was never articulately defined). It is, however, a good indication of its endearing stupidity.

A lot of hip-house was little more than speedy Chicago house, lean and mechanical. Sometimes the choruses were melodic. Often, Lyn Collins' "Think (About It)" was sampled and interpolated liberally (not just the "Whoo! Yeah!" as heard in "It Takes Two," and, y'know, EVERYWHERE ELSE, but even in similar high-hat patterns).

The thing is that I've spent a lot of time and money getting to know hip-house and I wouldn't want to hear a three-hour set of it. Dan's OTM in going there from time to time, but not setting up camp. It's far too lame of a genre to engage people over a length of time -- it's best use to punctuate. That's the only chance you ever have of making it sound cool, and ultimately, making it work.

M. Doc's "It's Percussion" is the best hip-house song of all time, by the way.

― Richj (Rich), Monday, 5 June 2006 21:32 (nineteen years ago)

what kind of asshole makes it a point of pride to deliberately annoy people with his record collection? Yr there to play records for people to dance to, do your job.

― Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 5 June 2006 21:34 (nineteen years ago)

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I will not apologize for my excessive hip house actions. With homiesexuals on my side, I will fear no bloated hipster.

― astronautagogo (astronautagogo), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 03:35 (nineteen years ago)

personally, if i'm playing somewhere and it becomes clear pretty quickly that i don't have the records that they know, the records that they like to hear, then i make the goal to win them over... to give them an unexpectedly good time. if they want paul van dyk, play some of the bigger more melodic kompakt shit, some border community, whatever, there's oodles of that stuff. it sounds to me like you BROUGHT 3 hours worth of hip house, and planned on experimenting on a crowd. if they didn't like it you got what you deserve, hyphotesis proved incorrect (or, if you're an asshole or just a bad dj, correct, i guess).

seriously, all dj's know that some crowds just won't ever get into what you're playing, usually if i have tried everything and i can't do it, and they're not being assholes, i'll stick around and just play discretely, or ask if one of the other dj's (if there is one) wants to take over. but most of the time, you can find a happy medium. if it's a club and not a bar, chances are most people there came to drink and dance, the bartender doesn't just hand them shitty drinks they can't drink-- you could be equally accommodating without giving up too much.

― firstworldman (firstworldman), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 04:30 (nineteen years ago)

to clarify, i'm not saying that i go in with a bag of records that i hope they all love already, but records that they might want to hear is what i meant. druuuuuuuuuunk.

― firstworldman (firstworldman), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 04:31 (nineteen years ago)

and what was the response you were hoping for in this thread?

― firstworldman (firstworldman), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 04:33 (nineteen years ago)

"Define good please." Her answer?
Paul Van Dyk.

ANON GIRL OTM

― fez (fez), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 06:34 (nineteen years ago)

The worst thing was, a guy probably came back the next week,

"guys, ive finally found it, last week this guy played only Hip-House, with Ten city at the end....its the club weve been looking for All These Years!"

― danny boy (danny boy), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 07:41 (nineteen years ago)

five months pass...

astronautagogo: a man ahead of his time?

― PRKLTR (flezaffe), Thursday, 9 November 2006 10:39 (nineteen years ago)

What, has there been more DJs almost killed for playing hip house?

― Tuomas (Tuomas), Thursday, 9 November 2006 10:55 (nineteen years ago)

hip house is poop.

― pipecock (pipecock), Thursday, 9 November 2006 20:48 (nineteen years ago)

CASSIUS FEAT GHOSTFACE KILLAH - "THRILLA" (BLAKE BAXTER REMIX)

^^^^not poop!!!!!!!

― HUNTA-V (vahid), Thursday, 9 November 2006 23:18 (nineteen years ago)

kool keith - "don't crush it (håkan lidbo club mix" yo

― gaseous (gaseous), Friday, 10 November 2006 07:12 (nineteen years ago)

two months pass...

when I get a chance i may post the controversial playlist.

STILL WAITING

― Tantrum The Cat (Tantrum The Cat), Friday, 26 January 2007 20:01 (nineteen years ago)

I picked up one of those DJ Ayres hip-house mix CDs and it is EXCELLENT.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Friday, 26 January 2007 21:59 (nineteen years ago)

six months pass...

This occurred to me on Rolling Snap, but LADIES AND GENTLEMEN THERE IS A HIP-HOUSE SONG IN THE US TOP FIVE.

― The Reverend, Thursday, 26 July 2007 05:44 (eighteen years ago)

CASSIUS FEAT GHOSTFACE KILLAH - "THRILLA" (BLAKE BAXTER REMIX)
^^^^not poop!!!!!!!

-- HUNTA-V (vahid), Thursday, November 9, 2006 1:18 PM (8 months ago) Bookmark Link

― gr8080, Thursday, 26 July 2007 05:56 (eighteen years ago)

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HEY!

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HEY! HEY! HEY! HEYYYYYYYY HEY! HEY THERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRE

HEY! THERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRE! HEY! HEY!

HEY THERE DELILAH!

― Tape Store, Thursday, 26 July 2007 06:26 (eighteen years ago)

LADIES AND GENTLEMEN THERE IS A HIP-HOUSE SONG IN THE US TOP FIVE.

And there is love.

― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 26 July 2007 06:34 (eighteen years ago)

ysi

― Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Thursday, 26 July 2007 07:25 (eighteen years ago)

best hip house ever = Fix 'Dope Computer' under 'Whoomp There It Is'

― blueski, Thursday, 26 July 2007 10:10 (eighteen years ago)

Honestly, this is no joke, but I downloaded whoomp there it is a few weeks back. . . It works perfectly under everything.

I think I have to make a mission out of removing the 'guilty' from guilty pleasure that's attached to hip house, it's great!

― mehlt, Thursday, 26 July 2007 16:07 (eighteen years ago)

And isn't the Villalobos remix of cellphones dead, at times, just a contemporary hip-house track?

And to go back to my previous post, Whoomp There it is + A Walking Contradiction by Adam Beyer is great, I was surprised to find out how fast whoomp there it is was, at like 135 BPM, not to mention how many obscenities it has, for something that was so popular among so many. But enough about whoomp there it is. . .

― mehlt, Thursday, 26 July 2007 16:12 (eighteen years ago)

When I first started buying music my favourite type of music was hip house - stuff like the Beatmasters, Tyree and Fast Eddie. Good times. Except everyone else at school was into stuff like Dire Straits & Aerosmith at that time so they would mock my "rap crap".

― Colonel Poo, Thursday, 26 July 2007 16:16 (eighteen years ago)

I have a CD single of Tyree Cooper's "Move Your Body" that is NOT FOR SALE, EVER.

― Tantrum The Cat, Thursday, 26 July 2007 19:10 (eighteen years ago)

Was the perfection of "Whoomp! There It Is" ever in doubt?

― The Reverend, Thursday, 26 July 2007 23:12 (eighteen years ago)

Brother Makes 3 -- Do You Wanna Dance

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I52XMbbl5zA

― Romeo Jones, Friday, 27 July 2007 00:28 (eighteen years ago)

Was the perfection of "Whoomp! There It Is" ever in doubt?

-- The Reverend, Thursday, July 26, 2007 11:12 PM

I thought Whoomp/Woop qualified as Miami Bass?

Is there more overlap between bass & hip-house than I thought?

(hint: I have not heard much hip-house)

― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 27 July 2007 00:32 (eighteen years ago)

Twin Hype's "For Those Who Like to Groove" is a total floor filler right now.

― Spencer Chow, Friday, 27 July 2007 00:33 (eighteen years ago)

Naw, it's not hip-house, but it is awesome.

― The Reverend, Friday, 27 July 2007 00:34 (eighteen years ago)

(That's re: "Whoomp", obv.)

― The Reverend, Friday, 27 July 2007 00:35 (eighteen years ago)

yeah it's not hip-house on it's own but mix it with a 4/4-based track and hip-house becomes it

― blueski, Friday, 27 July 2007 00:36 (eighteen years ago)

man, this shit. if you were an american kid in the late 80s, early 90s, this is basically the only music that you heard... this, and shit like ... Young MC and Salt and/or Peppa

― uhrrrrrrr10, Friday, 27 July 2007 01:52 (eighteen years ago)

man i wish i was an american kid in the late 80s, early 90s

― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 27 July 2007 02:00 (eighteen years ago)

You actually want to listen to Salt and Pepper. This explains a lot. Your Flying Burrito preferences no longer bother me.

― humansuit, Friday, 27 July 2007 02:03 (eighteen years ago)

Salt n Pepa is classic. Ban humansuit.

― The Reverend, Friday, 27 July 2007 02:04 (eighteen years ago)

Goddammit.

― humansuit, Friday, 27 July 2007 02:07 (eighteen years ago)

one year passes...

Man I really need to get hold of more DJ International records. . .

― mehlt, Sunday, 8 March 2009 03:52 (sixteen years ago)

thx 4 ^

― Terius (The Reverend), Sunday, 8 March 2009 04:18 (sixteen years ago)

No problem. It pains my heart that people like Tyree Cooper are being left behind in classic house revival uproar.

― mehlt, Sunday, 8 March 2009 04:20 (sixteen years ago)

new tyree cooper mix (from january, anyway) up on deephousepage.com

― moonship journey to baja, Sunday, 8 March 2009 04:59 (sixteen years ago)

though it's not as "hip house" as i'd hoped, meaning it's not 20 variations on dj fast eddie's "hip house"

― moonship journey to baja, Sunday, 8 March 2009 05:06 (sixteen years ago)

Ha. It's too bad I have so much childhood trauma attached to being called Fast Eddie, because hotdamn his hair in that video.

Yeah, I mentioned this in another thread, but I was so disappointed with that marc romboy Tyree collaboration from last year. Barely rapped on it, if at all, just zzzzz slowed down flangered vocals in the "why are the vocals so low" vein, over some also pretty zzzzz production.

It's probably better in the end, I can't even imagine how upset I'd be if Hip House ended up getting an ironic 'novelty-dance music' treatment.

― mehlt, Sunday, 8 March 2009 05:23 (sixteen years ago)

the success of kid cudi's "day and night" says to me that it's not unlikely that will happen

― moonship journey to baja, Sunday, 8 March 2009 07:40 (sixteen years ago)

or wiz khalifa. was just at pretty much a rave around the corner from my house. djs were playing the most annoying mix of nu rave, electro, industrial. all distorted to hell. and they dropped the alice dj tune and EVERYBODY was dancing. blew my mind. but i enjoyed it :-/

i also LOVE hip house

― (jaxon) ( .) ( .) (jaxon), Sunday, 8 March 2009 10:33 (sixteen years ago)

DJ's worst nightmare:

The Empty Floor

― Bob Six, Sunday, 8 March 2009 11:34 (sixteen years ago)

I gathered my record boxes together and slunk out of the DJ booth in shame, feeling utterly gutted and humiliated. My friends said all the right things – it’s a shit club anyway, your music was far better, don’t give up, you’ll get the right crowd another time. But I was inconsolable.

This, dear reader, is an object lesson in what not to do if you’re starting out as a DJ. I had broken two cardinal rules. I had made no attempt to connect with my audience, and I hadn’t allowed for any flexibility with the music.

― Bob Six, Sunday, 8 March 2009 11:35 (sixteen years ago)

wow, great find.

I've always found the delineation between those styles of hip-house interesting, with the Chicago house producers on one hand, where the music is great chicago house and the rapping a bit less top-notch, and the golden-era hip-hop artists who cut house tracks, Jungle Brothers, Queen Latifa, Special Ed etc, where sometimes the music is great but usually it's a good rapper doing a novelty club song (not that there's anything wrong with that...) but for the chicago guys to even cite a difference to someone like KC Flightt, who's a wickedly awesome, mad underrated producer, is interesting. I do see a difference I suppose, those DJ International Hip-House records sonically are really hip-hop at house tempos, the samples, the scratching etc, whereas KC Flightt's music is a bit more innovative house music...with rapping.

― dan selzer, Sunday, 8 March 2009 14:22 (sixteen years ago)

is that mike t-diva's site?

― (jaxon) ( .) ( .) (jaxon), Sunday, 8 March 2009 19:32 (sixteen years ago)

I love I Love My Radio by Taffy. It's cheesy italo, but it was also licensed by Rhythm King, home of Bomb the Bass and Renegade Soundwave, so I thought maybe it was somewhat respected.

― dan selzer, Sunday, 8 March 2009 19:40 (sixteen years ago)

damn i need to start jacking rocky jones style

― rip dom passantino 3/5/09 never forget (max), Sunday, 8 March 2009 19:42 (sixteen years ago)

five years pass...

where's the fuckin playlist

― getting strange ass all around the globe (Neanderthal), Saturday, 19 April 2014 16:35 (eleven years ago)

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