Tangerine Dream 'Nebulous Dawn'

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I've never heard anything by Tangerine Dream before, and was just wondering if this compilation is a good place to start (3cds, and pretty cheap). I like all the stuff that they've supposedly influenced - The Orb, the trancey end of DFA (Delia & Gavin, Black Dice) etc. Would I be better off checking out one of their better-known releases first?

― Ruari Wirewool (Ruairi Wirewool), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 08:43 (nineteen years ago)

That looks like a really fucking great compilation! It's got all 4 of their early albums PLUS rare singles - I'm buying it! I should warn you that their early stuff sounds nothing like the Orb et al.

― Who Are You... The Nerve... I Wanna Get Out, I Wanna Get Out (Dada), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 08:51 (nineteen years ago)

It's a pretty good comp if you're already into the band (CD3 has tracks on it that were super-rare/near-unobtanium back in the pre-P2P days), but if yr wanting to get an idea of that they sounded like at their best, "Ricochet" is a much better pick.

― Pashmina (Pashmina), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 08:53 (nineteen years ago)

Ooh, this is going on my shopping list for next weekend! I'm presuming that the super-rare stuff doesn't include anything by their original line-up, with Peter Brotzmann doing his Brotzmann thing on sax?

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 08:56 (nineteen years ago)

The pick of it is "ultima thule parts one and 2", one side is some of the best t-dream moog sequencer music, the other is ludictous guitar/mellotron gnarl. Totally out of character & great. I'll pick one up as well, for sure.

― Pashmina (Pashmina), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 08:59 (nineteen years ago)

i hate to disagree w/ pash but nothing tops zeit in the tg discog, imho

i shall also be getting this - never heard ultima thule B4

― Ward Fowler (Ward Fowler), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 09:00 (nineteen years ago)

But Pash is right in so far as "Zeit" isn't in the the classic T. Dream style

― Who Are You... The Nerve... I Wanna Get Out, I Wanna Get Out (Dada), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 09:03 (nineteen years ago)

Ah, that looks great. Me want.

― NickB (NickB), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 09:03 (nineteen years ago)

... i.e. the style that the Orb and everyone picked up on (xpost)

― Who Are You... The Nerve... I Wanna Get Out, I Wanna Get Out (Dada), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 09:04 (nineteen years ago)

Phaedra/Rubycon/Ricochet are the pick of TD for me, "Zeit" probably next down from them.

― Pashmina (Pashmina), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 09:12 (nineteen years ago)

I haven't even got "Ricochet", I love "Rubycon"

― Who Are You... The Nerve... I Wanna Get Out, I Wanna Get Out (Dada), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 09:16 (nineteen years ago)

... next boxset coming up methinks

― Who Are You... The Nerve... I Wanna Get Out, I Wanna Get Out (Dada), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 09:16 (nineteen years ago)

Thanks peoples. If TDream's early stuff doesn't sound like Delia&Gavin, The Orb etc, what does it most resemble?

― Ruairi Wirewool (Ruairi Wirewool), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 09:28 (nineteen years ago)

The weird bits in Pink Floyd records all strung together

― Who Are You... The Nerve... I Wanna Get Out, I Wanna Get Out (Dada), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 09:30 (nineteen years ago)

...Probably about as near as yr going to get. The first 4 TD albums (Electronic Meditation/Atem/Zeit/Alpha Centauri), eh, it's kind of hard to compare them with anything, really. Even later T Dream!

― Pashmina (Pashmina), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 09:33 (nineteen years ago)

Well whole bits of them are lifted en masse from "Saucerful of Secrets" (see also early Ash Ra Tempel"), "Ummagumma" and "More"

― Who Are You... The Nerve... I Wanna Get Out, I Wanna Get Out (Dada), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 09:41 (nineteen years ago)

Sounds tasty. Worth a £9 punt, at any rate. Cheers!

― Ruairi Wirewool (Ruairi Wirewool), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 09:42 (nineteen years ago)

parts of the first 4 tg albs remind me of ash ra temple, cluster and esp. August 1974 by Taj Mahal Travellers (and therefore by extension halve maen by double leopards)

x-post

― Ward Fowler (Ward Fowler), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 09:42 (nineteen years ago)

three weeks pass...

Anyone got theirs yet? HMV have had mine on "special order" for ages, and I haven't seen it ain any "proper" shops. Not that I'm particularly impatient.

WHERE'S MY FUCKING NEBULOUS DAWN?

― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Friday, 30 June 2006 13:40 (nineteen years ago)

It's nebulous innit?

Mine still not either though.

― NickB (NickB), Friday, 30 June 2006 14:03 (nineteen years ago)

This looks good, but I already own three of the first four records.

What's the best comp for the second era that began with Phaedra?

― Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Friday, 30 June 2006 17:52 (nineteen years ago)

I would echo Pash's sentiments: start with Phaedra or Rubycon. These are the early albums, which are great, but not what I think most people would associate with as their 'classic' sound.

― Joe (Joe), Saturday, 1 July 2006 01:52 (nineteen years ago)

three weeks pass...

Finally picked this up in HMV yesterday. The Ultima Thule single is indeed one of the all-time grate dbl a-sides.

No mention of Brotz in the sleevenotes

― Ward Fowler (Ward Fowler), Wednesday, 26 July 2006 10:09 (nineteen years ago)

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