What's everyones opinion on Ian Mackaye and what happened to Fugazi?

In your nice new outfit,
All straight clean lines.
There's blood in your mouth,
Dressed to the nines.
You're number one with a bullet,
That's money well spent,
Your mouth plastered like poster,
Address yourself success.

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It's cold outside and my hands are dry
Skin is cracked and I realize
That I hate the sound of guitars
A thousand grudging young millionaires

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Also Latin Roots, which as far as I can tell is just about having sex with a Hispanic girl and hearing her parents coming up the steps. Or "Do You Like Me," which is a fairly funny setting of a corporate merger as a teenage crush.

I love the evens stance of playing shows. Saw them at a Salvation Army Hall on Oxford St, London recently. He mentioned how he wanted to take music away from corporate sponsored venues (i hate all Carling venues, and i hate Carling beer :) ) . I couldnt agree more.

Evens were pretty incredible too!

i could never give a shit about straight edge and honestly never really cared that much about the political side of fugazi, but they wrote great songs, great rhythm section, great sense of dynamics, and they fucking slayed live.

ian gets a lot of love for me for the way he chose to conduct his band's business, ran a small but successful label, and did things on his own terms.

i always thought it was about being a transvestite within a traditionally macho culture ("your father's footsteps / in your mother's shoes") but that makes as much sense.

lay down that link if you find it home digididy.
-- Addison Braden, June 7th, 2006.

here it is:
Fugazi : Classic or Dud ?

at the end of the thread

Yeah, but don't you you think that dude has something to answer for SINCE HE PRETTY MUCH HELD UP THE ENTIRE PUNKER ANTI-DRINKING MOVEMENT?

As soon as they started ordering fans to sit down at shows, I gave up. I don't care how good they're music is, that behavior is fucked.

As soon as they started ordering fans to sit down at shows, I gave up. I don't care how good they're music is, that behavior is fucked.

wtf you act like he's fucking earth crisis or something...he wrote a song that a bunch of people turned into a ridiculous "movement", he's got no obligation to them or anyone...

...i never saw anyone ordered to or sitting down at a fugazi show...i think they would just stop real violent moshing where they thought people were getting hurt.

PSF: How did the idea of 'straight-edge' come about?

It was just the title of a song that i wrote. I guess I coined the phrase but certainly never intended to start a movement.

PSF: Do you still follow this?

I am still straight, but have never really been involved with the 'straight edge movement'.

ps: ian mackaye said he had straight edge 25 years ago, when he was 19. i think his opinion may have changed a tiny bit since, though he's far from a chain smoking alcoholic now. and besides, i think any sXe person that gets all riled up and calls him a hypocrite is the also type of person that fugazi asks to chill out or leave at their shows when they're being rowdy and violent. i'll take the hypocrite who enjoys a beer once in a while over the violent douchebag hypocrite anyday.

Comments about the press focusing too much on their business practices and not enough on the music are OTM.

See, to me, that IS political. Semantics, I guess. Agreed that people should have been writing more about the music and less about the "OMG they will only play $5 shows" tagline.

I gotta listen to The Argument again, by default that is the one I've heard the least.