Supergroup on VH-1 is the best show, even though the stars suck

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Where's the thread that was obviously already created? I couldn't find it. Sebastian Back is more than just an annoying embarrassment! He's actually someone to look forward to watching!!!!

Uri Frendimein (Uri Frendimein), Saturday, 10 June 2006 04:11 (nineteen years ago)

http://tvland.classictvhits.com/WelcomeBackKotter/Pics/WBK01.JPG

Sons Of The Redd Desert (Ken L), Saturday, 10 June 2006 04:16 (nineteen years ago)

I love the perpetual "what the fuck am I doing here?" look on Scott Ian's face.

Marmot 4-Tay (marmotwolof), Saturday, 10 June 2006 04:19 (nineteen years ago)

He's actually someone to look forward to watching!!!!

You're a better man than I, Uri. Hearing him cry and watching him hug Doc Magee, repeatedly saying "I love you" and variations of thereof made my thumb jerk on the channel changer. The series crashed and burned the first week, making everyone look like a fool. The only person spared was Jason Bonham who left to do some lame Foreigner reunion gig even the original drummer is too embarrassed to do. Ted Nugent in a Hawaiian grandpop shirt makes me flinch. I love the man but there's a limit.

Urnst Kouch (Urnst Kouch), Saturday, 10 June 2006 06:00 (nineteen years ago)

That was the best episode yet! When I saw the aerial view of him acting like a drunken slut to non-caring Doc Magee, I realized what an incredible show this would be. It has someone MORE EMBARRASSING AND OUT OF IT than Ozzy Osbourne! Did you like that scene where he's being all "sophisticated" with the $5 bottle of wine?!?! Hilarious!!!!

Uri Frendimein (Uri Frendimein), Saturday, 10 June 2006 06:02 (nineteen years ago)

Sadly, no. My DNA is so handicapped my skin crawls when I see people volunteering to be made decayed fools of for the sake of voyeurs on cable. I detest and destested Ozzy Osbourne for setting the standard. His rep is not so much for being a singer for Black Sabbath in the US, as being a shambling, profane, over-medicated brain-damaged fool for cable TV. Often, it now spoils my enjoyment of old Black Sabbath records. Anything for a thick bankroll.

Sebastian Bach was an intelligent, opinionated man who was an acquired taste. To see him act the broken down wretch on a trivial VH1 show is horrid. A minute and a half was more than enough. I don't enjoy watching the wings being pulled off flies.

Urnst Kouch (Urnst Kouch), Saturday, 10 June 2006 07:07 (nineteen years ago)

scott ian is incredibly even-tempered by reality-show standards

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Saturday, 10 June 2006 07:24 (nineteen years ago)

Maybe I like the show because the only one I really have any respect for is Jason Bonham. He's regular, smart guy who just wants to make a buck playing drums. I saw him play for The Who and he was great!

Uri Frendimein (Uri Frendimein), Saturday, 10 June 2006 11:20 (nineteen years ago)

I'm trying to understand the the Mr. Kotter photo. Was the poster welcoming me back, saying I look like Gabe Kaplan or directing these sentiments toward the Supergroup or some specific member?

Uri Frendimein (Uri Frendimein), Saturday, 10 June 2006 11:28 (nineteen years ago)

I think Bonham's "Wait for You" was a really good song.

Sundar (sundar), Saturday, 10 June 2006 14:12 (nineteen years ago)

I'm trying to understand the the Mr. Kotter photo.

"Sebastian Back" ..fucking genious, that Ken.

DAVE, for #1 Hits of yesterday and today! (dave225.3), Sunday, 11 June 2006 20:24 (nineteen years ago)

When was Seabastor "intelligent"? I missed that. "Opinionated," yas: AIDS cracks, for inst. Wish I'd missed those.

don (dow), Sunday, 11 June 2006 20:38 (nineteen years ago)

Not on this show. He's had his moments when not drunk, though. Black, no -- white! Red -- no, green!

Urnst Kouch (Urnst Kouch), Sunday, 11 June 2006 21:14 (nineteen years ago)

The other guys, even Ted, are so...abashed, I guess, like they're all mortified to be there, with this guy? Or is it the way it's edited? Both, prob, and the producers are building up the Puck Factor (the classick Real World ahole emissionary), for tension's sake (looks like one of the runty baldheads is beating Bach in the upcoming episode, ohboy) This show is so fucking bad

don (dow), Monday, 12 June 2006 02:18 (nineteen years ago)

This episode had Sebastian drooling over his own performace as a guest star on Gilmore Girls, so we know he will be intently watching the Supergroup series as well. What must he think of himself? I had an opinion of him from his little Vh-1/Mtv commentary gigs, but wow, I had no idea who he really was (even worse).

Uri Frendimein (Uri Frendimein), Monday, 12 June 2006 02:24 (nineteen years ago)

"Fist! Savage Animal! Savage Animal! It rolls off the tongue! How about Damnocracy?"

Dude didn't really care what the band was called as long as he thought of the name. Godwar was pretty dumb too, though.

looks like one of the runty baldheads is beating Bach in the upcoming episode, ohboy

Yeah, it's Evan Seinfeld decking Bach in the preview. Can't wait.

Speaking of Sebastian Bach assholism, does anyone else remember that dickish letter Rolling Stone published from him right after and regarding Kurt Cobain's suicide? I was looking for it online but came up empty.

Marmot 4-Tay (marmotwolof), Monday, 12 June 2006 04:23 (nineteen years ago)

This show is so fucking bad

Yeah, isn't it great to be festive, gleeful and make money over the plight of a raging alcholic? It's Bum Fights except the bums don't have bum fights tattoo'd on their foreheads for a case of beer. It costs more -- a couple weeks in a fancy digs in Las Vegas.

I've caught excerpts of the entire thing and even those leave you soiled. A fistfight is as predictable as garbage rotting in the sun. What a treat, Mr. Can't Wait!

like they're all mortified to be there, with this guy

And they don't bail. Anyone with an ounce of self-respect would. But Bonham's son abandoned his years ago when he decided to squeeze every penny possible out of his surname. Check him out in the "Rock Star" DVD and past photos. He's a poster boy for plastic surgery, looking younger than his dad when the man croaked.

Urnst Kouch (Urnst Kouch), Monday, 12 June 2006 08:48 (nineteen years ago)

Whatever. I was replying to don's sarcastic "ohboy" with an equally sarcastic "Can't wait", but I really don't care enough to argue about this. It's a bad show. Nobody is going to say it isn't. Sheesh.

Marmot 4-Tay (marmotwolof), Monday, 12 June 2006 08:57 (nineteen years ago)

(besides the OP)

Marmot 4-Tay (marmotwolof), Monday, 12 June 2006 08:58 (nineteen years ago)

I really enjoy it! Sebastian Bach has had plastic surgery, too, in case you didn't notice. When they signed 'em all up, I doubt they knew Sebastian was an alcoholic because he doesn't seem to realize it, either. And it's not exactly Bum Fights since he's the only one who's a drunk. The rest are like, "Oh boy, as soon as this is over, I'm out of here." What's to feel guilty about? The show is giving some otherwise washed-up rockers a 2nd chance and some much-needed (to them) exposure.

Uri Frendimein (Uri Frendimein), Monday, 12 June 2006 14:33 (nineteen years ago)

i love this show.

¨ˆ¨ˆ¨ˆ¨ˆ¨ˆ¨ˆ (chaki), Monday, 12 June 2006 16:11 (nineteen years ago)

Anyone see the scene where Sebastian is wine tasting like a pro, going on and on about what a great wine he's drinking and how it "opens your pores," etc. He was rinsing it around his mouth and wafting it into his nose, etc. Then, he goes to find Scott and says, "Man, you gotta try this wine, it's phenomenal" and, not to be enticed by Sebastian's typical raving enthusiasm, Scott casually says, "What kind is that?", then looks at the bottle and says, "Oh yeah that's [whatever]. That's like $5.99 a bottle over at [wherever]." Sebastian slouches in defeat, turns back to the camera and gives a devil-horn with a stuck-out tongue as if to say, "I may look like a total fool right now, but I'm still cool."

Uri Frendimein (Uri Frendimein), Monday, 12 June 2006 16:29 (nineteen years ago)

I think what Scott calls it is "two-buck Jock," cheapass wine, but indeed of French vintage, or lable (Name from "Three-Lock Box"? cheapass with metal label). Bach seems really nervous, insecure, almost all of the time (publicists are so relieved and agree that he seems most at ease, and most professional, when they finally get him to hobnob with male radio jocks)(most defensive and even scared, when queried by female print journalist, but not so at ease with his "bandmates," or even Doc Mcgee,either)

don (dow), Monday, 12 June 2006 17:48 (nineteen years ago)

guys it's "Two Buck Chuck" - from Trader Joe's. http://www.traderjoes.com/new/chuckshaw.asp

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 12 June 2006 18:04 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, that's it! Thanks, I'm going to buy me some tonight after work.

Uri Frendimein (Uri Frendimein), Monday, 12 June 2006 18:12 (nineteen years ago)

they serve a lot of two-buck chuck at art openings and other events where the hosts are cheap and most of the people attending are only there for the free wine (no matter how crap it is).

intensity in tent cities (Jody Beth Rosen), Monday, 12 June 2006 18:16 (nineteen years ago)

As far as Sebastian being insecure, the last episode had him drunkenly expressing that he drinks because he has all these "feelings" that he doesn't understand. It was hard to decipher what he was trying to say vs. what he was trying to hide, but it ended with him telling Scott he would never have another guitarist ever again in his life and Scott smiling politely saying, "Okay."

Uri Frendimein (Uri Frendimein), Monday, 12 June 2006 18:17 (nineteen years ago)

Two buck Chuck is alternately really good and really shitty, since it's the over-runs from other wine labels. It made a big name a few years ago when it was really fantastic, some of the best wine in the country, that was being sold because there was a giant glut in the market. Tasty stuff, usually, and anyone who makes fun of a bottle on price doesn't really know much about wine.

That said, that show was too much trainwreck. Bonham lost it for me when he wasn't even willing to listen to suggestions on how to make his drumming sound less Freedom Rock. "Bonham doesn't do punk," he says.

And yeah, that song they turned in was shitty and not even Darkness funny shitty.

js (honestengine), Monday, 12 June 2006 19:40 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, does this mean that, after this show's over, Seb's gonna be calling Scott up at 4 AM, crying and cussing, "You my dawwg, whatchoo mean about an Anthrax reunion, hey wait a minute, you guys can work with me, it'll kick ass on Dylan and The Band PICK UP DAMNIT!" (what I meant about the Puck Factor:as with Real World, I'm sure the producers do interview all applicants/possible recruits, and prob delib pick one guy who will at least rattle the others, and will prob cause some fireworks/interest)

don (dow), Monday, 12 June 2006 19:43 (nineteen years ago)

and anyone who makes fun of a bottle on price doesn't really know much about wine.

Although rarely is anything under $8 in the slightest bit good. Boone's Farm is $4/bottle isn't it? This $2 Trader Joe thing seems like a rare steal.

Uri Frendimein (Uri Frendimein), Monday, 12 June 2006 20:16 (nineteen years ago)

It looks like he may've designed this website himself:
http://www.sebastianbach.com/updates.html
Tommorrow DAMNOCRACY will tape SEVEN brand new TV shows for VH1 Classic Channel !! The seven shows will consist of 4/5ths of DAMNOCRACY watching the Supergroup episodes, then discussing the episodes for a half hour amongst ourselves. A muti-tiered metal TV extravaganza ! The seven VH1 Classic shows will air immediately after each episode of Supergroup on VH1.Why is it only 4/5ths of DAMNOCRACY you ask ? Because, of course, Mr. Terrible Ted Nugent is busy HUNTING IN ALASKA! %100 true.

Mike Dixn (Mike Dixon), Monday, 12 June 2006 20:51 (nineteen years ago)

ive been watching that. Baz is so AMAZED that hes HUNTING in ALASKA! Baz is so lovable.

¨ˆ¨ˆ¨ˆ¨ˆ¨ˆ¨ˆ (chaki), Monday, 12 June 2006 20:54 (nineteen years ago)

Although rarely is anything under $8 in the slightest bit good

trader joe's sells some VERY good under-$5s, but they're the exception. and wine @ west coast trader joe's is usu. a few bucks cheaper than east coast trader joe's, so what you get for $4 here goes for $7 or $8 back east. you just have to know what you're buying.

intensity in tent cities (Jody Beth Rosen), Monday, 12 June 2006 21:39 (nineteen years ago)

I'm going to start calling Two-Buck-Chuck "Two Bach Jock".

DAVE, for #1 Hits of yesterday and today! (dave225.3), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 01:06 (nineteen years ago)

He should start his own, like Paul Newman's salad dressing, etc.

don (dow), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 01:11 (nineteen years ago)

two buck bach

intensity in tent cities (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 01:12 (nineteen years ago)

Wish I lived in California where wine is available in grocery stores and wine country is just a short drive away.

Uri Frendimein (Uri Frendimein), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 01:57 (nineteen years ago)

He's regular, smart guy who just wants to make a buck playing drums. I saw him play for The Who and he was great!

jason bonham never played for the Who (and, lord willing, never will). you might be thinking of zak starkey. he's ringo starr's son and far more powerful and nuanced a drummer than jason bonham can ever hope to be. he also gets bonus points for not forming a band called "Starr."

Lawrence the Looter (Lawrence the Looter), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 12:55 (nineteen years ago)

That's what I've heard. But what I really want to know is this: which one of them played in that terrible group with Johnny Marr?

Sons Of The Redd Desert (Ken L), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 13:05 (nineteen years ago)

(I'm gonna be sad when the thread reaches fifty posts and I don't see Gabe K every time I open it)

Sons Of The Redd Desert (Ken L), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 13:22 (nineteen years ago)

But what I really want to know is this: which one of them played in that terrible group with Johnny Marr?

that was zak starkey too. he also was with oasis for the better part of a year. despite those two strikes against him, he is unbelievable with the who.

Lawrence the Looter (Lawrence the Looter), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 13:53 (nineteen years ago)

jason bonham never played for the Who (and, lord willing, never will).

I gues he played for the opener, then, who was Robert Plant. That makes sense, of course, but I sort of thought he played with both, or that, he definitely played with The Who. But, now that I'm thinking about it, I have no idea. The Who had a different bass player, I know that much.

Uri Frendimein (Uri Frendimein), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 14:01 (nineteen years ago)

They did? Hopefully Colin will come over from I Make Music to sort out who it was.

Sons Of The Redd Desert (Ken L), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 14:06 (nineteen years ago)


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