are disco edits the new electroclash?

It seems to be about a third a degree away from bootlegging at this point.

(Also, welcome Mike!)

edits that bring something new to the table (betty botox, editions disco, krivit edit of 'trans europe express' I just got that pretty much turns it into basic channel) = now we're talking.

might be onto something w/ the electroclash comparison, insofar as it's a bit of a personality-driven thing. even the ones where pseudonyms are involved since everyone knows who they are anyway (you don't hear anyone going "oh, I wonder who this TANGOTERJE character is").

Then there is the Krivit school of editing which is more about making a track work better for you when you dj. in the early 90's I started using a hardware sampler to do edits, specifically aimed at the audience I dj to. This was much easier than cutting tape but would still take a couple of solid days work to do each edit as it meant sampling one or two bars at a time and then cutting and pasting. The memory of the sampler was very limited and the on board cutting and pasting was very slow and tedious.

Around 2000 I got a computer and this changed everything. What had previously taken days took hours and it was now possible to get tracks that had previously been wildly out of time to stay rigidly in time so that they could be mixed. About 50% of my dj set is things I have re edited. It was really important to me as a dj to have lots of exclusive edits that no other dj had and I had no intention of making them available beyond that.

After a LOT of persuasion I was talked into doing an EP of edits and then the two subsequent albums and was pleasantly surprised at the reaction.

I completely agree that the disco edit thing has gone crazy. Firstly they are in vogue so everyone wants to have a go and secondly, today's technology makes it (too?) easy to do. So, there are endless, often pointless, often rubbish edits flooding the shops. I'm sure they will go out of fashion again.

But, the edit has always been a vital part of dance culture and hopefully there will always be a place for the more creative and imaginative ones. I have several hundred unreleased edits and I intend to keep most of them unreleased as, as I said earlier, I like having versions that no one else has. I'm not sure if there will be any more Betty Botox releases but it has definitely been fun getting them out there. Learning how to edit is an important production skill to have and I think it has definitely helped when I do my own productions or actual remixes.

At the end of the day though, when I listen to something Chep Nunez did 25 years ago, I really feel like a bit of a fraud. Maybe I should dig out my reel to reel again and get real?

http://www.discogs.com/release/133043

Mantronik, Chep Nunez and Omar Santana go to town.

I think a lot of people don't realise how easy the audio editing software is (it's just cutting and copying and pasting like Word.) The hard bit is being creative!

there are definitely more edits than there used to be but i don't think there's been a deluge of them, at least not in the shops i buy from.

jess have you heard this? or this??

the first i didn't buy because i don't trust people with names like "mark de clive-lowe" (i know, so very stelfox/hunta-d of me) and the 2nd because i don't trust philly ;-)

anyway, i would get that one if you're gonna pay no more than, like, 7 bucks. seiji is usually a good sign; domu i've had intermittent luck with, though he's a seriously hot drums guy when he's on. i also don't trust people with names like mark de clive-lowe.

the presence of "talking drum and stroke percussion" leads me to believe you should ignore the other one. the problem with this shit is that these guys have such variably taste and quality issues that it's impossible to know without hearing. there could be some sick shit on that, but i doubt it.

One way I see it is a lot of DJs are using it as a way to get into production, maybe practice their chops. It's not always so easy, depending on the track, and it's definately more a question of the choices made.

'black to the future' has its jams (agent k, charlie dark, capitol a) but has too much filler. ditto on the philly distrust.

stick with the bugz fabric, seiji remixes, and the agent k album 'feed the cat' (total brilliance). and domu is 80% quality jams, 20% throwaways, but when he's on, HE'S ON.

this is pretty decent, I picked it up last week. Word is that Tim Sweeny is behind this one.

and as we've discussed elsewhere, BEARDO DISCO is not merely the new electroclash, it is actually the new TRIP HOP.

1) pastiche factor = "hey look, the best moments of old school rap, WITHOUT THE RAP"

2) uneasy hipsters = "hey, couldn't i just be spinning alice coltrane records instead of major force west??"

ronnie laws + kirk degiorgio, yizzeard??

check for it

why not start a new thread! (and leave this one alone?)

Exactly, nowadays it can be as simple as just running a live drum based song through ableton to set the tempo perfectly.

boring

like putting stabilisers on your bike

Eh, works for me.

no one here is taking a purist "all edits are bad" stance, right?

we can all agree that there are good ones and bad ones, however different that may be defined.

anyone who says all edits are bad has obv never heard anything by beatconductor or tangoterje

well i think the thing that should be questioned is whether or not they should be pressed and offered for sale. altho of course it'd be impossible to make that kind of judgement, the impression i've always gotten is that dj's would make em for personal use, personalized for their own sets. i mean, if you're a budding producer or whatever it's probably a nice way to learn stuff but i don't know about building a whole reputation on edits.

Oh yeah, I'm speaking purely in terms of edits as a DJ tool. Occasionally, an edit is worth releasing, but it's rare.

nothing wrong with stars on 45 is there?

Love the Tangoterje edit of Paul Simon's "Diamonds on the Souls of her Shoes". It ends up halfway between Studio and Arthur Russell's "In The Light of the Miracle".

If they are using Ableton/Audacity/Whatever to tighten up the beats on these edits they need to do a lot better job cause I still have to warp the shit outta them!

Rune Lindbaek's Afrika I'm looking at you here.

Geraldo Pine - Heavy Heavy Heavy (Catch & Release Heavy Lifting Edit)

I am obsessed with Peter Visti's remix of Dolly Parton's "Jolene". Amazing.

how do you all feel about bands doing covers a la mountain of one "can't be serious"

Who/ what is this a cover of? It's cool.

it's by Ginny.
http://www.flexx.be/distro/items.php?id=flexx004

got big on the DJ Harvey Sarcastic Disco mix.

surely the irony is that AMO's cover version is totally serious and straight faced.

holy crap -

http://discoedits.com/

ahha
this one is one of the best out there...

http://sci-fi-pogo.blogspot.com/

this just in: disco edits are still 99% retarded. that said, hearing Mike Dunn play disco records in Chicago sort of changed how i look at edits.

thank god ILX is ok until end of june

http://www.grahamphillips.net/Ark/Ark_2_files/moses_with_tablets.jpg

best edit i have heard lately is the dr. dunks' 'keep it cheap', nice echoey looping business as heard on rub n tug's beats in space mix.

yellow cards? are we playing soccer here?

the yellowcard is ILXs own way of calling you retarded, bro

Soccer? What's that then? I

^^ RIP us / europe zinger

Is pipecock banned again already or something? If not, I'm interested in hearing more about the Mike Dunn set and in what way it changed your view.

http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/4662/img00036v.jpg

no wai

wai

that wasn't even at a nerdy record store. was just at your run of the mill hipster haberdashery

This has been a fun thread to reread.

Was this a joke TOM PETTY - You Got Lucky (Cosmic Instrumental) b/w Don't Come Around Here No More (Synth-drum Dub)?

never heard a version of You Got Lucky but there is definitely a track out there called Don't Dub Around Here No More (Italians-related ... I think it's done by Tiedye under a different name)

it's by västkustska ryggdunkarsällskapet, which is tiedye + sankt goran. if you're actually curious

I made a 'combination' mix with Let Me In by El Perro Del Mar and Don't Dub Around Here. I enjoy listening to it this way. Maybe you will to.

^ this is awesome! good work

Okay, the Cleo & Patra On the Nile EP is really wonderful.

haven't heard an edit i've liked for weeks and weeks now

"african disco power" sort of a nadir in my mind

tornado wallace does stuff that sound like disco edits but aren't

cool, i'm hoping people can prove me wrong on this one

and why is it the nadir?

how funny is it that the only edits i've heard of being released in the past few months is by the starter of this thread

more like a personal nadir - the track title / credentials had me totally excited, and then when i heard it, just total pffffft

the new edits from Personal Nadir are amazing.

Afro Cosmic with a Halloween vibe.

(xxpost) Jaxon - Bim Marx just released our latest 12" this month.

and how are those Simonetti edits? i was underwhelmed by a 12" he put out and have avoided the others since then.
seconding Bim Marx.

are r&b edits the new disco edits?

my friend charles sent me a disco edit that he made - and made an acetate of - in 1979 of Instant Funk and man was he ahead of his time. so cool. everything new is old again.