Beyonce - "Deja Vu"

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Just heard this on the radio. Another one in the "Crazy In Love"/"1 Thing"/"Ain't No Other Man" mold. A bit more mid-tempo but still pretty fuckin great. They're gonna play it again at 3, so I'll record it and post it (elsewhere, ysi watchdogs).

It's Rodney, pimp! (R. J. Greene), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 20:46 (nineteen years ago)

Who's playing it at 3 (presumably pm, presumably PST)?

Thomas Inskeep (submeat), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 20:50 (nineteen years ago)

Kube 93 in Seattle

It's Rodney, pimp! (R. J. Greene), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 20:54 (nineteen years ago)

Dammit. (Since I'm L.A., I mean.)

Thomas Inskeep (submeat), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 20:55 (nineteen years ago)

They probably have an online station.

It's Rodney, pimp! (R. J. Greene), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 21:02 (nineteen years ago)

Follow the trail of links...

http://rodneyhateshiphop.blogspot.com/

It's Rodney, pimp! (R. J. Greene), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 21:35 (nineteen years ago)

thanks, rodney.

this is good, but man definitely no "Crazy in Love". is this seriously the best Beyonce + Hov + Beyonce and Jay's people could do?

sean gramophone (Sean M), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 21:41 (nineteen years ago)

I dunno about that. Of course it isn't as good as "Crazy...", but Beyonce's vocal performance is muy hot.

It's Rodney, pimp! (R. J. Greene), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 21:46 (nineteen years ago)

Thanks, seconded. (Just please leave it long enough for me to get home, like 4 hours...)

Thomas Inskeep (submeat), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 21:48 (nineteen years ago)

Call me crazy, the song sounds a lot like that Michael Jackson track...You Rock My World? It definitely has that feel to it. Good song, though.

musically (musically), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 21:50 (nineteen years ago)

that song is HOT

kelly baaad (whatatotaldrag), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 22:43 (nineteen years ago)

Am I the only one in here that thinks Beyonce has no charisma at all?

Mr. Snrub (Mr. Snrub), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 01:00 (nineteen years ago)

I adore Beyonce (ADORE), but this is sort of weak. Perhaps she should've spent more than 2 weeks on the album....

The Brainwasher (Twilight), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 02:07 (nineteen years ago)

HOT!
Rodney, I kiss you.

Thomas Inskeep (submeat), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 02:41 (nineteen years ago)

Jay's rehashed verse aside this sounds good on first listen. We'll see how long before I'm sick of it.

deej.. (deej..), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 02:46 (nineteen years ago)

Her voice does not peak well.

deej.. (deej..), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 02:47 (nineteen years ago)

boy, another collaboration between those two, it's a wonder people don't speculate that they're a couple!

Alex in Baltimore (Alex in Baltimore), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 03:17 (nineteen years ago)

what's Jay's verse rehashed from? I don't recognize any lines from anywhere else.

I love the moment right at 1:25 when the beat drops out for a second and her voice eases into the 2nd verse.

Alex in Baltimore (Alex in Baltimore), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 03:19 (nineteen years ago)

what's Jay's verse rehashed from? I don't recognize any lines from anywhere else.

In the opening section he has some line that sounds like its explicitly referencing a verse from the black album, but its all 'rehashed' in that its another terrible verse about how great a rapper he is, all hype no substance.

deej.. (deej..), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 15:08 (nineteen years ago)

Haha I sound like people who hate rap, "just rapping about how great he is."

deej.. (deej..), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 15:09 (nineteen years ago)

I know what you mean though Deej. Not only is he coasting on his legacy, but he's rapping about coasting on his legacy (see also: his sold out 10th anniversary "Reasonable Doubt" show in NYC next month)...

paulhw (paulhw), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 17:47 (nineteen years ago)

I don't catch the Black Album connection, but I haven't listened to it in like 2 years or so.

Sure its not his best but (CLICHE ALERT!) his tossed-off verses sound better than most people's A-game, so its hard for me to be disappointed. I actually think his 2nd verse is really good.

It's Rodney, pimp! (R. J. Greene), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 20:43 (nineteen years ago)

His verse is good, but I was a bit like, "Ok, I get it by now. Rap game = crack game. You used to deal coke... how many years ago???"

Overall I think the song would be better without it.

Abbadavid Berman (Hurting), Thursday, 15 June 2006 02:25 (nineteen years ago)

But its so CUTE when they do songs together!

max (maxreax), Thursday, 15 June 2006 02:32 (nineteen years ago)

GOD this is great. Best part: they way the 808 totally obliviates everything except the vocals. I mean just utterly erases everything - it's like "Crazy In Love" turned nearly inside out.

Also I spent all day with the "Used to run base like Juan Pierre" line in my head, so there's that.

James.Cobo (jamescobo), Thursday, 15 June 2006 05:03 (nineteen years ago)

god i hate radio rips - the shitty quality of it all completely distracts me from whether the song is any good or not. but on balance i say YES! and i can't wait to hear it properly.

The Lex (The Lex), Thursday, 15 June 2006 07:11 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.beyonceworld.net/main.htm has a high quality version. I don't think Beyonce has the vocal cords to pull this one off - I'd love to hear xtina do this.

danzig (danzig), Thursday, 15 June 2006 08:13 (nineteen years ago)

felt v blank when i first heard this, but it hit me hard this morning! i like the deceptive judder of the beat and the herb in me loves the brand new heavies chord change (the horns are prime 'midnight at the oasis' or 'nights over egypt' or something as well). fuck, may as well throw in the bassline as well.

so it is super effective both as genre exercise and as song too: "I don't think Beyonce has the vocal cords to pull this one off": this i don't buy one bit - the xtina of 'no other man' would bludgeon these tight cruising swerves, the whole tenacity of the thing, like with that gritted-teeth "cant get ov!-er! you!/ all i see!-is! you! / ...no substi!-tute!" with hornpunches holepunching the document of b's etc etc finish my sentence off. beyonce gets pretty wild by the end anyway. i mean it is called 'deja vu', "boy i try to catch myself / but i'm not in control", it has an extra layer of questioning self-regard that isn't exactly xtina's one statement of "hurrah, new bloke!!"

also by rights it's quite proper for jay to just be stylin' away in the background, it's like the camera is seeing what beyonce is on about with all this charisma she can't escape. he doesnt have to address the audience with a long essay about the nature of temps perdu or anything cos it's not his song. (altho come to think of it it does work quite well as a song about how the rap community just won't let jay go whatever he comes out with innit)

nb. still not really feeling the xtina song btw, but i can admit it as an interesting counterpart at least.

rtccc (mwah), Thursday, 15 June 2006 10:17 (nineteen years ago)

actually does he say "is he the best ever? / that's the argue of men"? or "argu-a-ment"? argue of men is great!

rtccc (mwah), Thursday, 15 June 2006 10:28 (nineteen years ago)

and did rodders really start a whole new blog just for this song? i respect that.

rtccc (mwah), Thursday, 15 June 2006 10:31 (nineteen years ago)

otfm with brand new heavies comparison! i was listening to this while walking to get lunch just now, and was like, i recognise that chord change. 'midnight at the oasis'.

beyoncé not having vocal cords to pull this off is almost as crazy and nonsense as that dude on the xtina thread saying it'd be better performed by tom jones.

both xtina and beyoncé sing like they're head-over-heels excited to be in love, but xtina's feeling it for the first time in her life in 'ain't no other man', while beyoncé's getting deja vu, and is a bit more wary, but she gives in by the end anyway.

The Lex (The Lex), Thursday, 15 June 2006 11:54 (nineteen years ago)

and did rodders really start a whole new blog just for this song? i respect that.
-- rtccc (giaou...), June 15th, 2006.

Ha. I actually started the blog a while back and made like two posts, then kinda gave up on it. It just seemed a convenient off-shore place to post the link. I might start it up again now, though.

It's Rodney, pimp! (R. J. Greene), Thursday, 15 June 2006 18:44 (nineteen years ago)

I'd have liked the refrain better as Destiny's Child rather than just multitracked Beyonce. At least she doesn't do her theremin impersonation like she did on "Check On It."

Joseph McCombs (Joseph McCombs), Thursday, 15 June 2006 18:54 (nineteen years ago)

t/s: "Used to run base like Juan Pierre" versus "Is your game MVP like Steve Nash?"

Tape Store (Tape Store), Thursday, 15 June 2006 19:06 (nineteen years ago)

two months pass...
Angry Beyonce is SO HOT!:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CLa5HEX0BiQ

(The video for her new, Swizz Beats-produced single "Ring the Alarm." It's the logica follow up to the Deja Vu video... she's so in love with him that she's can't help but dance like a madwoman, and now he's cheated on her and she's having a mental breakdown basically!).

The Brainwasher (Twilight), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 10:15 (nineteen years ago)

Holy shit that's an insane video. Not only is she being influenced by Sharon Stone there, but bits of it seem remarkably similar to the Rihanna SOS video as well, whom the song itself is rumored to be about.

danzig (danzig), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 14:05 (nineteen years ago)

I love that thing she does with her weave near the end.

The Brainwasher (Twilight), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 14:09 (nineteen years ago)

I'm glad they're rushing the follow-up to "Deja Vu" (I mean, dropping the next video just 2 months after it leaked and maybe a month after the video? damn, I know a lot of people hate it, but it did go top 5), but that doesn't really sound like a hit either. I like it, though, and it will probably grow on me some more, since I love "Check On It" and Swizz's whole refusal to switch up his chaotic herky-jerky style for an R&B track (compared to smoother older tracks like Eve's "Gotta Man"). I mean, that big snare hit out of nowhere is awesome.

Alex in Baltimore (Alex in Baltimore), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 15:50 (nineteen years ago)

Spizzazzz are right about the album: the best track is the ballad "Irreplacable" - by far. I think it must be the most emotionally affecting thing she's done, the chorus is amazing:

You must not know bout me
You must not know bout me
I could have another you in a minute
Matter fact he'll be here in a minute

You must not know bout me
You must not know bout me
I could have another you by tomorrow
So don't you ever for a moment
Get to thinking you're irreplacable

Okay so that probably doesn't convey it's brilliance. But the way she performs it, it's total stiff upper lip, lump in yr throat heroic fronting - Beyonce riding off into the sunset, a tear still drying on her cheek.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Monday, 28 August 2006 12:06 (nineteen years ago)

I quite like the other ballad "Resentment" too, though it's more overblown.

The album as a whole is like this odd illustration of "be careful what you wish for". It's everything yr average critic wants from a Beyonce album, or it tries to be at any rate, and ends up kind of a heroic failure.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Monday, 28 August 2006 12:09 (nineteen years ago)

i love "to the left, to the left... everything you own in the box to the left" so much as well - the way you think it's a dance before the hit comes, or how it's like beyonce forcing herself on her hampered march forward.

(...without the er other right leg she was standing on aka the boyfriend! altho haha that would be walking around in a circle, forget i said anything)

it's at once vulnerable as it is resolute, basically, and it kills.

rtccc (mwah), Monday, 28 August 2006 13:48 (nineteen years ago)

And the spiteful self-negation in the bridge!

"So since I'm not your everything
How about I'll be nothing
Nothing at all to you!"

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Monday, 28 August 2006 13:55 (nineteen years ago)

yeah I totally agree with you guys. "Irreplaceable" is the best thing she's done IMO.

The Brainwasher (Twilight), Monday, 28 August 2006 17:03 (nineteen years ago)

Also, "Irreplaceable" cements Ne-Yo's place as one of the best pop songwriters of the decade IMO. (he co-wrote the song with Bey)

The Brainwasher (Twilight), Monday, 28 August 2006 18:43 (nineteen years ago)

is this the song with the siren where she dresses up basic instinct style? b/c I like that song

()()()---()()() (internet), Tuesday, 29 August 2006 00:18 (nineteen years ago)

No I imagine that's "Ring The Alarm".

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Tuesday, 29 August 2006 01:22 (nineteen years ago)

not sure I understand how "what yr. average critic wants" translates into heroic failure, tim. b'day's fun, loud, funky and frequently exhilirating - if this is what yr. average critic wanted from beyonce, then maybe yr. average critic was right. at the very least it's an improvement on dangerously in love.

Josh Love (screamapillar), Tuesday, 29 August 2006 14:27 (nineteen years ago)

http://graphics.stanford.edu/~lucasp/pictures/italy/apartment/bidet.jpg

a rapper singing about hos and bitches and money (Enrique), Tuesday, 29 August 2006 14:39 (nineteen years ago)

Ha. I had been privately calling this album "Bedet" in my own mind.

Rodn y Greene (R. J. Greene), Tuesday, 29 August 2006 15:04 (nineteen years ago)

"not sure I understand how "what yr. average critic wants" translates into heroic failure, tim. b'day's fun, loud, funky and frequently exhilirating - if this is what yr. average critic wanted from beyonce, then maybe yr. average critic was right. at the very least it's an improvement on dangerously in love. "

I was kinda including myself in the definition of "yr average critic". I think the album is certainly loud and funky, and often fun, and I think it's probably a better album than Dangerously In Love, but in an odd way the combined forces of "Crazy In Love" and "Baby Boy" may have been worth more than a consistent Beyonce album.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Tuesday, 29 August 2006 15:23 (nineteen years ago)

Absolutely.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 14:40 (nineteen years ago)

is anyone else totally grooving on the dc gogo throwback bonus track?

Sterling Clover (s_clover), Sunday, 24 September 2006 19:18 (nineteen years ago)

which is, ok, just "get me bodied" in an extend remix but its totally awesome.

Sterling Clover (s_clover), Sunday, 24 September 2006 19:35 (nineteen years ago)

Considering that Mya's new single is a straight up Go-Go jam featuring DJ Kool it seems kind of silly to still be freaking out over every vaguely Go-Go-ish R&B track that Rich Harrison or Chucky Thompson produces.

Alex in Baltimore (Alex in Baltimore), Sunday, 24 September 2006 19:41 (nineteen years ago)

i thought the track was swizz beatz?

Sterling Clover (s_clover), Sunday, 24 September 2006 20:01 (nineteen years ago)

yeah that occurred to me after I posted but my point still stands!

also, in light of "Freakum Dress," I think whatever license to coin neologisms that Beyonce thinks she earned after "Bootylicious" needs to be revoked.

Alex in Baltimore (Alex in Baltimore), Sunday, 24 September 2006 20:12 (nineteen years ago)

What's the Mya tune called?

Jordan (Jordan), Sunday, 24 September 2006 20:14 (nineteen years ago)

Ayo!

Sterling Clover (s_clover), Sunday, 24 September 2006 20:27 (nineteen years ago)

but the thing is i think the "get me bodied" remix is totally awesome anyway. i've never really heard beyonce do the full on vamp thing before and it highlights how the swing in her voice is a key strength on lots of her best tracks.

Sterling Clover (s_clover), Sunday, 24 September 2006 20:29 (nineteen years ago)

I agree, the extended remix of "Get Me Bodied" is excellent, I wish that she'd just put that version on the album.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Sunday, 24 September 2006 21:51 (nineteen years ago)

I was going to mention that the extended version of "Get Me Bodied" is the best thing ever. (And yeah, it should have been the one on the album.)

Bidet is pretty damn good. "Get Me Bodied" (double dutch goodness!) and "Resentment" (yay! more emo&b ala "Unfaithful") are my faves.

Rodney doesn't like polka. He is racist. (R. J. Greene), Sunday, 24 September 2006 22:21 (nineteen years ago)

i think this one is the most boring beyonce to date. and i didn't think it could get worse after ring the alarm!

jay z is all that saves her these days. i used to be screaming the praises of beyonce but just can't for this weak song.

nijoli (nijoli), Monday, 25 September 2006 00:01 (nineteen years ago)

What the fuck with no one diggin' on get me bodied till now?

Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Monday, 25 September 2006 02:58 (nineteen years ago)

Didn't hear the album 'til yesterday, that's why. Already listened to it three times (which makes up for the massive letdown of the Lupe album.)

Rodney doesn't like polka. He is racist. (R. J. Greene), Monday, 25 September 2006 03:27 (nineteen years ago)

the album really is very very good! i keep returning to it.

The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 25 September 2006 06:39 (nineteen years ago)

'get me bodied' is the only track i ever skip though.

The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 25 September 2006 06:40 (nineteen years ago)

"Kitty Kat" is sometimes good and sometimes just there. I do like this album a lot. Maybe I have unrealistically high standards w/r/t what I want from a Beyonce album.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Monday, 25 September 2006 07:19 (nineteen years ago)

Like, I feel more comfortable with the Cassie album just because neither Cassie nor I are trying so hard.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Monday, 25 September 2006 07:19 (nineteen years ago)

beyoncé album is better when drunk though.

(when one is drunk not when it is drunk.)

'kitty kat' is classic because for most of it beyoncé is addressing her own vagina.

'freakum dress' is a MONSTER banger!

i think because i didn't rate 'crazy in love' quite as highly as everyone else did, i don't see beyoncé's other bangers in that vein as living in its shadow.

The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 25 September 2006 07:41 (nineteen years ago)

i do love the cassie album even more but for entirely different reasons.

The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 25 September 2006 07:42 (nineteen years ago)

i think because i didn't rate 'crazy in love' quite as highly as everyone else did, i don't see beyoncé's other bangers in that vein as living in its shadow.

Ditto.

Re: the Cassie album, the first couple songs are great, as are the last couple. The rest is just kinda there. As a whole it doesn't do much for me. It reminds me very much of Aaliyah's self-titled album, but not nearly as good.

Rodney doesn't like polka. He is racist. (R. J. Greene), Monday, 25 September 2006 14:14 (nineteen years ago)

Yes well that's a bit of an unfair comparison, not many albums are that good! I kinda like the awkwardness and tenuousness of the Cassie album - e.g. it's the fact that "Long Way 2 Go" is such an unconvincing stab at dismissive superiority that makes it work. Likewise there's something fascinatingly awkward about the syrupy sweetness of "Ditto". I sort of like how she's introducing Aaliyah to Lumidee a bit - every other R&B singer who's drawn on Aaliyah's sound has been intensely professional about everything, which you could never accuse Cassie of being.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Monday, 25 September 2006 21:11 (nineteen years ago)

unconvincing stab at dismissive superiority

yeah have u seen the 'long way 2 go' vid? haha, half of it is just her rejecting friend requests on myspace

rtccc (mwah), Monday, 25 September 2006 21:23 (nineteen years ago)

that sounds awesome

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Monday, 25 September 2006 21:30 (nineteen years ago)

it really does!

The Lex (The Lex), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 06:52 (nineteen years ago)

three months pass...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A1P5-fvYglU

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Sunday, 14 January 2007 18:08 (nineteen years ago)

Big deal.

The Brainwasher (Twilight), Sunday, 14 January 2007 18:45 (nineteen years ago)

botherd

lex pretend (lex pretend), Sunday, 14 January 2007 19:01 (nineteen years ago)

it's a good song, as times goes by I've realized she's a good singer.

m coleman (lovebug starski), Sunday, 14 January 2007 19:52 (nineteen years ago)

I admit, I'm kinda surprised people would think she isn't!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 14 January 2007 19:53 (nineteen years ago)

three months pass...
I'm sure everyone else has heard it by now, but the Freemasons mix of "Ring the Alarm" has basically made the original listenable (and quite good at that).

musically, Tuesday, 17 April 2007 23:59 (eighteen years ago)

Déjà Vu was really underrated. Better than Crazy In Love!

aaron d.g., Wednesday, 18 April 2007 00:03 (eighteen years ago)

xpost - a thousand times, yes! You should all vote for the Freemasons mix for the 2006 tracks poll.

danzig, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 00:28 (eighteen years ago)

haha, it was such a bitch picking only 20 tracks, now I have to bump one more off? I'm considering it, though; the remix is WICKED.

musically, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 00:38 (eighteen years ago)

oh is this the gay house mix that tim wz on about then

beyonce + freemasons is usually good! if we're talking shock & awe at making rubbish listenable though then we should be be discussing the 'beautiful liar' rmx cos that really is some sort of alchemy

r|t|c, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 00:53 (eighteen years ago)

(not that it's that great or anything, just that 'beautiful liar' is beyond hopeless)

it's great when every big obvious single from a big obvious album gets remixed to infinity! b-day remains a pleasant memory while still being ubiq.

oh also check out the random new mix of 'green light' as well, a poor man's 'fallen rmx'! but with young buck on the amen break! i especially like how it seems to ramp up the blatant amerie-baiting of the original just that bit further.

r|t|c, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 01:10 (eighteen years ago)

I thought the Freemason remix of "Déjà Vu" was also better than the original. It made the verses longer which are the best part of the song and cut out the annoying bridge.

LeRooLeRoo, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 01:21 (eighteen years ago)

B'Day's ubiquity to be further extended by it's rerelease complete with a DVD of music videos of every track on the album! I'm actually really excited by this, despite the fact that I've already seen all of them on youtube.

This really is ingenious of Beyonce - Why do other artists not do this?

danzig, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 02:43 (eighteen years ago)

Is it really ingenious to showcase gigantic piles of crap like the new songs Beyonce is inflicting on our ears and eyes?

HI DERE, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 02:49 (eighteen years ago)

I was mad wrong to hate "Ring The Alarm".

The Reverend, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 05:22 (eighteen years ago)

(Apparently this isn't the thread where I ranted about it, but still.)

The Reverend, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 05:26 (eighteen years ago)

Assuming it is the same remix of "Ring The Alarm", I'm glad people are coming around to it. I think a big part of what makes it work is that by slowing down the "she'll be rocking..." section it makes it seem less frenzied and manic and more, I dunno, Beyonce forcefully pronouncing (or channelling even) some immutable law of existence.

It reminds me of how when USSR leaders gave big speeches, at the end when everyone clapped, they clapped along too, as if to say, "I am humbly appreciative of the grace with which the laws of historical materialism spoke through me."

Tim F, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 06:16 (eighteen years ago)

i especially like how it seems to ramp up the blatant amerie-baiting of the original just that bit further.

the video is pretty much exactly the video for '1 thing'.

lex pretend, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 06:21 (eighteen years ago)

Tim Finney you just blew my mind.

The Reverend, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 06:38 (eighteen years ago)

Possibly the worst international hit ever written by Norwegians.

Stargate, please go home to Trondheim and stop destroying mainstream pop with your crap!

Geir Hongro, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 09:14 (eighteen years ago)

I was mad wrong to hate "Ring The Alarm".

DUDE I TRIED TO TELL YOU THIS BEFORE

HI DERE, Thursday, 19 April 2007 01:40 (eighteen years ago)

(at least I think I did)

HI DERE, Thursday, 19 April 2007 01:40 (eighteen years ago)

Dan: 1, Rodney:0.

The Reverend, Thursday, 19 April 2007 02:14 (eighteen years ago)

So the problem is the Des'ree cover?

If Timi Yuro would be still alive, most other singers could shut up, Thursday, 19 April 2007 07:55 (eighteen years ago)

most of the new tracks on the bidet reissue are fairly average except 'if', which is awesome!

lex pretend, Thursday, 19 April 2007 14:20 (eighteen years ago)


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