Do you ever feel like you've discovered every band that really "clicks" with you and that everything else from here on out will just be a bunch of good but insubstantial albums?

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Because I do.

Lee is Free (Lee is Free), Monday, 19 June 2006 04:46 (nineteen years ago)

Patience.

Marmot 4-Tay (marmotwolof), Monday, 19 June 2006 04:50 (nineteen years ago)

Until you realize that you've been into insubstantial stuff all this time, and then Kenny G will come along one afternoon, while you're on hold calling your city government for an incorrect energy bill, and he will save your soul and change everything.

aDOring NUTbians (donut), Monday, 19 June 2006 04:51 (nineteen years ago)

Man I wish I could give you a hug. That is so sad.

trees (treesessplode), Monday, 19 June 2006 04:52 (nineteen years ago)

A lot of new bands are shitty. They usually are, most of them. Good ones will always turn up.
Patience! http://www.wonder-showzen.com/images/patience_th.jpg

Marmot 4-Tay (marmotwolof), Monday, 19 June 2006 04:55 (nineteen years ago)

Haha I'm not depressed about it. More frustrated than sad.

Lee is Free (Lee is Free), Monday, 19 June 2006 04:56 (nineteen years ago)

I could never feel like that - constantly hearing great new stuff . Although I definitely feel like there was a golden age around the time of my birth (1969) and I wonder if we'll ever have a period that good again ( stones,beatles,stooges,hendrix etc etc) - damn boomers - they had it all the bastards

grapple (grapple), Monday, 19 June 2006 05:18 (nineteen years ago)

And they threw it all away.

Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Monday, 19 June 2006 05:42 (nineteen years ago)

Most of us "fixate" on a particular slice of musical history. For me, the period 1980-1989 contains the music of the greatest emotional meaning. It's like language, though: At a young age, you locate a collection of signifiers against which you are able to triangulate all future signifiers. Because of their foundational significance in your musico-emotional geography, you grow fond of them. And who wants to, or can, simply give up the means by which he or she understands and integrates new musical experiences? I suppose it can happen, and I don't mean to say that your enjoyment of novel musical experiences is decreased, but I believe that when the moment of foundational musical meaning has passed, there's no way to return to it.

There's lots of music made after 1990 that I love and adore and cherish. None of it, though, defines music for me in the same way that Confusion is Sex or Groovy Hate Fuck does. Maybe not everyone fixates on the same relative period in their lives, and maybe a lot of people don't fixate at all, but I think that most people who love a part of "popular" music are thus.

Shoes say, yeah, no hands clap your good bra. (goodbra), Monday, 19 June 2006 05:56 (nineteen years ago)

yep

grapple (grapple), Monday, 19 June 2006 05:56 (nineteen years ago)

i felt this way last summer! then i started listening to leonard cohen, and everything changed. i thought i was done, and started to settle down in january. then i heard scott walker, and everything changed! i'm 23 now, and am still finding touchstones. i hope i have many, many more miles to go.

haha, i felt this way when i was 16, specifically w/r/t stereolab!

derrick (derrick), Monday, 19 June 2006 06:09 (nineteen years ago)

that last album that really clicked with me was CYHSY, so I say no. also, I'm finding tons of singles all the time. I always thought of myself as an album person, but maybe it's time to get an ipod.

nicky lo-fi (nicky lo-fi), Monday, 19 June 2006 06:22 (nineteen years ago)

fortune says: in the next 3 years, you're going to discover a band that's been studying your genetic makeup. Everything will fall into place. Then you'll ask the mods to delete this thread.

cosmo vitelli (cosmo vitelli), Monday, 19 June 2006 06:44 (nineteen years ago)

I feel like this whenever I discover a new song/album/band. "Man, this is IT. Nothing can ever top this." And then you find a new song/album/band. Rinse and repeat.

musically (musically), Monday, 19 June 2006 06:46 (nineteen years ago)

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Shoes say, yeah, no hands clap your good bra. (goodbra), Monday, 19 June 2006 07:00 (nineteen years ago)

A lot of new bands are shitty.

so you're in support of devolution theory? me, i adhere to the evolutionary stance: everything just gets BETTER and BETTER. every new experience brings me to a bigger orgasm. i suspect that one day, after hearing mc cheesnites maybe, i will explode.

Nathalie (stevie nixed), Monday, 19 June 2006 07:38 (nineteen years ago)

you are high

Marmot 4-Tay (marmotwolof), Monday, 19 June 2006 07:43 (nineteen years ago)

A lot of new bands (in every era) are shitty.

Marmot 4-Tay (marmotwolof), Monday, 19 June 2006 07:44 (nineteen years ago)

I felt like that for a while, then I discovered a new (er, old) era that I really dig -- early, early rockabilly....Johnny Burnette Trio and such. There's so much stuff out there you're bound to discover a song, album, or band that makes you wonder how you could ever have gone without it for so long.

Ben Crazee (Ben Crazee), Monday, 19 June 2006 08:40 (nineteen years ago)

Most new bands are shitty.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 19 June 2006 10:28 (nineteen years ago)

Some people are just born pessimists.

Shadow of the Waxwing (noodle vague), Monday, 19 June 2006 10:33 (nineteen years ago)

As technology improves and computer-assisted production techniques become more and more advanced, music can only get better. Viva life!

adam (adam), Monday, 19 June 2006 10:34 (nineteen years ago)

Soon we'll just have computers onstage who (oops! which) will bump into eachother, wrecking their hard drives. I can't fucking wait for cyberpunk.

Nathalie (stevie nixed), Monday, 19 June 2006 10:49 (nineteen years ago)

Cloning technology will allow the formation of hitherto undreamt of supergroups. Yay Band of Elvis!

Shadow of the Waxwing (noodle vague), Monday, 19 June 2006 10:52 (nineteen years ago)

you get over this sort of feeling

first thing you gotta do is ditch ideas that you just happened to be around for some magical era: everybody feels that way, poets have been writing about it for centuries, it's called "youth"

Thomas Tallis (Tommy), Monday, 19 June 2006 11:15 (nineteen years ago)

(and it plays bass in an English postpunk band HAR HAR HAR)

Thomas Tallis (Tommy), Monday, 19 June 2006 11:15 (nineteen years ago)

i suspect that one day, after hearing mc cheesnites maybe, i will explode.

this is scandalous libel. i have never taken a cheesnite in my life.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 19 June 2006 11:26 (nineteen years ago)

anyway, exceptions who have pretty much demolished that rule in my world this year (so far): burial, joan as police woman, broken social scene (phase III), meligrove band, final fantasy, luciano, kiki, magik markers, breakage, spank rock (if i don't listen to the lyrics), alex smoke, gnarls flipping barkley even...always something new and better around every corner, if you decide to stay alive long enough.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 19 June 2006 11:30 (nineteen years ago)

always something new and better around every corner, if you decide to stay alive long enough.

genuine fucking cheers to that Marcello, across the Atlantic I'm raising my coffee cup to yr health

Thomas Tallis (Tommy), Monday, 19 June 2006 11:33 (nineteen years ago)

spank rock (if i don't listen to the lyrics

Heh. I know wot you mean, it can get a bit too 2LiveCrewish but overall I just love it.

Nathalie (stevie nixed), Monday, 19 June 2006 11:51 (nineteen years ago)

this thread is a bit like the Gamblers Fallacy, as applied to music consumption...(i.e. "I can keep buying CD's without guilt, because I know the more I buy, the sooner I'll score "the one", and I'll never have to buy anything else...ever)...

hank (hank s), Monday, 19 June 2006 11:55 (nineteen years ago)

you get over this sort of feeling
first thing you gotta do is ditch ideas that you just happened to be around for some magical era: everybody feels that way, poets have been writing about it for centuries, it's called "youth"

This is very good sense. The 'all new bands are shite' fallacy may also be engendered by the fact that people only bother to remember the good old bands. Compared to those most bands seem shite, but I tend to assume that the proportion of drivel to quality is fairly constant.

alext (alext), Monday, 19 June 2006 12:00 (nineteen years ago)

hank, dude, you're serious!?! next you'll say we're victims of capitalism!

Nathalie (stevie nixed), Monday, 19 June 2006 12:18 (nineteen years ago)

we're victims of jay z and cristal

latebloomer (latebloomer), Monday, 19 June 2006 15:01 (nineteen years ago)

FAKE ACCENTS, DUDES

SQUARECOATS (plsmith), Monday, 19 June 2006 17:20 (nineteen years ago)

hank, dude, you're serious!?! next you'll say we're victims of capitalism!
-- Nathalie (stevi...), June 19th, 2006.

serious as heartburn...I'm talking about grown-up things like setting budgets for things like music, which most of us will blow out pretty much every time we set foot in a record store...I can generally fool myself (not such a sharp one, me) by reasoning that this latest binge will increase my odds of finding that mythical "perfect album", which will tide me over until my golden years, and can be passed on to my grandchildren's children...

hank (hank s), Monday, 19 June 2006 18:12 (nineteen years ago)

hank, listen to zizek: the longing is the reward, not the record itself.

Nathalie (stevie nixed), Monday, 19 June 2006 18:20 (nineteen years ago)

prescient advice, though I suppose if it's true there must be scores of happy Scritti Politti fans out there...

hank (hank s), Monday, 19 June 2006 18:29 (nineteen years ago)

I think the answer is redefining your value system. I've yet to fully do it but it seems half of ILM has within the past few years. If you can't do it by choice, it will choose you eventually - or you'll end up like Alex in the Big Chill, and we mourn you on the board, take inventory of the old days, forget about it shortly after, and rant and rave about some new crappy band...right before making a list about the 10 best Beach Boys songs that don't feature Dennis.

PappaWheelie 2 (PappaWheelie 2), Monday, 19 June 2006 18:38 (nineteen years ago)

No, actually. I think it's the same genetic defect that leaves me unable to compile lists. Things click, I feel like the band hit me at exactly the right moment with the right sounds, and then I go looking for something new. I'll always love that old album for being in the right place at the right time, but as soon as I've heard it, I'm changed. And once I'm changed, I need to hear something new that hits me right where I am right then.
My tastes are moving targets, and while occassional moments of brilliance will slow them down, nothing's stopped them yet.
It helps, I think, to listen to mostly "pop" music (everything but classical, which tends to stagnate).

js (honestengine), Monday, 19 June 2006 18:42 (nineteen years ago)

Um, I don't know about anyone else but I was able to pretty much cut out a $150/week CD-buying habit cold turkey by getting married. It's really not that hard!

Jesus Dan (Dan Perry), Monday, 19 June 2006 18:45 (nineteen years ago)

I was able to cut out a $150/week CD-buying habit cold turkey by getting Soulseek.

Tom Nook (Dan Deluca), Monday, 19 June 2006 19:07 (nineteen years ago)

I only just got a $150/month music buying budget since getting married. Before that, it just went on credit that we'll be paying off until we die.

matt2 (matt2), Monday, 19 June 2006 19:16 (nineteen years ago)

"Um, I don't know about anyone else but I was able to pretty much cut out a $150/week CD-buying habit cold turkey by getting married. It's really not that hard!"

For me it was basically a combination of marriage, baby and soulseek. Sure, I still listen to music, but so much less than before. I just simply don't have the time anymore. And if I do, I usually read instead.

Nathalie (stevie nixed), Monday, 19 June 2006 19:26 (nineteen years ago)

You need to jumpstart your system. Instead of looking for music that "clicks", try overdosing on music that does the opposite. Listen to the worst possible music for a week, you'll come back and be able to apreciate new things again.

By the way, this is probably complete bullshit...

silence dogood (catcher), Monday, 19 June 2006 19:28 (nineteen years ago)

This is very good sense. The 'all new bands are shite' fallacy may also be engendered by the fact that people only bother to remember the good old bands. Compared to those most bands seem shite, but I tend to assume that the proportion of drivel to quality is fairly constant.

Actually, this is completely wrong. You have to remember that 20 years ago there wasn't a pro-tools rig with a commerical cdr dup machine in every neighborhood. The reason music appears to be worse is because it is worse. Most of the music released today never would have made it through the gates 20 years ago because the entry fee was so much higher.

Music is also worse because you don't have good recording technology at the moment. Digital audio is still in it's infancy and it doesn't sound as good as a well pressed record from the 70's. It isn't just vinyl, the pre-amps are not as good, the boards are not as good, the mastering engineers are not as good, and the skills of the recording engineers is not as good. Recording technology peaked from about 1970-1985. You had a mature analog technology, with techs who knew how to make it sound good. It took 60 years for it to get it to that point and then we threw it away because digital was the new thing.

Digital reverb killed music in the 80's. Digital has been creeping into everything ever since and it has wrecked an entire generation of music. Take a cd from the 90's and compare it to an old soul record from the early 70's and the cd will lose every time. Digital mastering still sucks. It sure is loud, but it doesn't sound good yet.

Before you flip out on me. Please realize that I am not an analogue snob per se, I just think analogue had 60 years to become a mature technology. Digital is getting better and it will be as good as analogue in the future. Unfortunately, that is not helping anybody with a recording project right now.

Disco Nihilist (mjt), Monday, 19 June 2006 20:21 (nineteen years ago)

recording engineers are not as good

Disco Nihilist (mjt), Monday, 19 June 2006 20:24 (nineteen years ago)

At least with me, once I got a pretty substantial stash of music, I don't really need to go find something new to have something I want to give a listen. I figure there are bunches of things going on that I might like, but then again, I've got a few hundred that I have not played out. This kind of listening usually leads me sideways and backwards into older music instead of forward into new artists when I do go out to acquire some more music.

Earl Nash (earlnash), Monday, 19 June 2006 21:55 (nineteen years ago)

i constantly find new stuff to love, and i'm still catching up on my back catalog. i plan to someday hear everything wonderful that's ever been recorded. i haven't felt bored by music, um, ever. if someday it so happens that i get tired and stop finding things to obsess over, then that will be a sad day and i'm not looking forward to it at all.

Emily B (Emily B), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 00:34 (nineteen years ago)

Digital audio is still in it's infancy

Disagree! Digital audio was in its infancy in the 80s and early 90s. It has definitely matured and there have plenty of great sounding digital recording in the last 15 years. They don't sound like 70s recordings, but why should they? If you are looking for something that sounds like music of the past, you will be constantly be disappointed. Even new "retro" music sounds like music of now.

Matt Olken (Moodles), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 04:06 (nineteen years ago)

I can't keep up with the massive number of great recordings that continually come out.

I've recently resolved to come to terms with John Zorn's output and am feeling slightly overwhelmed. I think he put out something like 20 albums in the last year or so.

Matt Olken (Moodles), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 04:09 (nineteen years ago)

(in answer to thread question)

No. Many new breathtaking moments always await.

sleeve (sleeve), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 04:18 (nineteen years ago)

Do you ever feel like you've discovered every band that really "clicks" with you and that everything else from here on out will just be a bunch of good but insubstantial albums?

Because I do.
-- Lee is Free (sonicyouth4...), June 19th, 2006 1:46 AM.

That's sad. Says to me you've given up trying to find good, new music.

Thomas Inskeep (submeat), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 17:36 (nineteen years ago)

Maybe you just need to take a break. I mean, I certainly get tired of music from time to time, but that doesn't mean I don't come crawling back after a few weeks.

polyphonic (polyphonic), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 17:42 (nineteen years ago)


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