The Evils Of Christian Rock

"On September 2, 1989, I went to a 'Christian rock' concert. While I was there, I danced, screamed, and sang in ways that were displeasing to God. I have many contemporary Christian music tapes, and I find when I listen to them that I get a rebellilous spirit."

Wow has he been listening to Low?

Old Fart!!!!

"My parents even gave me a dual cassette stereo system for memorizing Matthew 5-7. However, many of the tapes I ignorantly played caused sensual problems for me."

D'oh!!

Oh yeah, there is surely no evidence whatsoever that the giant of lust girl is actually a girl. It sounds to me like the giant of lust is a swift hand shandy.

Yeah, pretty much describes puberty up until... now.

Also the list of dead rock stars is unbelievably well researched for a bunch of inbred Okie bigots, including as it does members of the Godmachine, Lush, Heavenly and Big Star.

And also.. aargh! lightning bolt....

[the checking having been done by the original obsessive non-Xtian webnut, elsewhere].

some big christian site/paper just got smoked for guilelessly reprinting a spoof-story from The Onion as fact: as they had no brains or sense of humour, it hadn't occurred to them to check veracity - not that it was much less likely than all the back- masking/child-sacrifice nonsense they've been passing round for years

That song is unreasonably catchy.

"My parents even gave me a dual cassette stereo system for memorizing Matthew 5-7. However, many of the tapes I ignorantly played caused sensual problems for me."

LOL Sexual problems as in having sexual thoughts at all before marriage? :)

The Reverend DG

Two great posters for the price of one.

Agree that song is kind of catchy. It is the stage show that is just too hilarous for its own good.
I guess my favourite Christian rock act has to be Neal Morse, who has continued to make the same kind of great music he used to do with Spock's Beard. Shame about the lyrics though :)

Christian Rock will never die I'M TELLING YOU!

http://www.paviliontheatre.co.uk/images/shows/past/chris_m_pic.jpg

Nice one

goddamn when i was a kid they tried to get me to like Petra.

zap

"something of a legend"

always love this phrase

Yeah, I've never quite worked out what that means, apart from "actually not a legend."

Man, I forgot about Old Fart!!!!

zap

― a hat check clerk at an ice rink (n/a), Tuesday, September 16, 2008 10:31 AM (25 minutes ago)

Strange NY Times Op-Ed piece from a few days ago, written by MSU prof who's written a book about Christian pop music; in the piece, he argues that "religious and especially Christian themes" in secular rock and pop used to happen all the time back in the '60s and early '70s, but hardly ever do anymore; he seems completely oblivious to all the Christian subtexts that run from early U2 up through Creed, Collective Soul, and all those other Southern fake grunge bands, for starters, not to mention Madonna and Amy Grant and on and on. Mentions "Mr. Robinson" and "Fire And Rain" as having "explicit" religious themes, which I'd never noticed; mentions "Jesus" by the Velvet Underground too, not exactly a big hit -- if that counts, why don't all the Catholic references in say Hold Steady lyrics? Says "Judas" by Lady Gaga "offers a throwback to the less-segregated pop of the past," before Christian rock happened. So anyway, pretty dumb overall; surprised the Times printed it:

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/04/24/opinion/24Stowe.html

While the song is unlikely to herald an end to the religious/secular rift
in pop music

I have a hard time grokking why this would be a bad thing. I woulda picked Stryper to mention before some of those others.

Mike Huckabee is just plain bad. He ends all his shows with a musical performance, usually
an excuse to jam with a guest. I see that as his desire to get next to old rockers. You shoulda seen his performance with Phil Collen doing "Pour Some Sugar On Me." Cold sweat inducing.

There is no religious component in any of these Huckabee performances although there is in the show.

As for the phenomenon of "worship" rock as backing in church, we used to make jokes about these guys over on one of the other boards. There are lots of them and their reviews of guitars and effects were hysterical on harmony-central. They practice and development of playing rock music quietly and/or inoffensively. When you're no longer up to kicking out the jams in the local sodden dives there's always the refuge of Christian worship "rock" on Sunday.

Plus he unfairly neglected modern country where we know everyone drops the themes at the tip of the stetson.

That is REALLY weird -- almost sounds like Stowe just hastily constructed a thesis so he could write something about "Judas", which I suppose I should listen to at some point. It makes me wanna read his book just so I can yell at it. (The book might be good, who knows?) But anyway, he ALSO fails to note R&B radio, where "Birthday Sex" and whatnot gets played right beside Jesus songs by Kanye, Marvin Sapp, Mary Mary, Dr. Charles G Hayes (in Chicago, at least), etc. And what about Flyleaf? And Joan Osborne? I should stop. I mean, I've been blindsided by hearing Sister Janet Mead on '70s comps as much as the next kid, but if anything that should open your eyes to how many similar exceptions continue to hit.

OH, that reminds me. This thread REVIVAL seems like a SIGN to link to my recent expansive and little-read piece on Christian Hair Metal, featuring MEDITATIONS on 1990 albums by Holy Soldier, Stryper, and Extreme. It fits the theme of this thread cos I mention Jeff Godwin, who's made a living hating Christian rock.

This article was really strange, esp. as an op-ed. I think he had all the pieces there, but he put them together in a really weird way... conflating Jesus namedrops with religious intent, ignoring huge swaths of pop music that didn't fit his thesis, making dubious connections between music and politics. I don't know that I could take a whole book in this vein, although maybe he does better with 40K words than with 2K.

this seems like the most appropriate thread for this:
http://www.cnn.com/2013/05/08/showbiz/singer-lambesis-arrested/

Surprised this isn't getting more traction on ILM. Seems natural for a what's on your iPod thread, at the very least.

Its been talked about on 2009 critban and a little on rolling metal

This thread is reminding me of this religious kid I went to school with who used to evangelize to everyone about Stryper. Not his church or Jesus, just Stryper.

dc talk, yall

Surprised this isn't getting more traction on ILM. Seems natural for a what's on your iPod thread, at the very least.

― kornrulez6969, Wednesday, May 8, 2013 3:07 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

"lead singer of as i lay dying's wife who just discovered that your husband wanted to whack you, what's on your iPod?"

http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-lambesis-pleads-not-guilty-20130509,0,125432.story

Deputy Dist. Atty. Claudia Grasso said Lambesis several months ago sent his wife an email telling her that he no longer loved her or believed in God. His wife also learned that he had had several extra-marital affairs, she said.

Grasso said Lambesis gave the deputy posing as a hitman $1,000 and the address of his wife's home and the computer code to the front door. The tip about his desire to hire a hitman came after Lambesis allegedly told someone at his gymnasium that he wanted his wife killed.

"hey man, spot me on these reps? thx, I really want my wife killed"

$1,000!

Life's pretty cheap in Vista.

he should have paid dude in Trident Layers

Maybe the $1,000 was just a deposit. "I'll give you the rest of the money when the job is done."

"as promised" *hands over two quarters*

Since he let it slip at the gym, maybe it's all a misunderstanding. He could have said "I need a schvitz."

An essay reflecting on the arrest, reaction and larger issues. This is not the easiest of reads.

How did I never know that Kathy troccoli was Christian