Boris' Pink - LP version differences

1) Japanese CD comes out sometime in late 2005.
2) Japanese LP (released later that winter) is a little longer.
3) US CD (released the following spring) replicates the Japanese LP.
4) US LP (released in the summer of 2006) is the longest yet.

It's all to fucking confusing -- and a greedy, shitty scam tactic besides. Just release the goddam album THE WAY YOU WANT IT TO BE and call it a fucking day.

The (Southern Lord) 2LP version is better than the Inoxia CD. Fine. I'm glad I have it. But it all woulda fit on one CD in the first place.

Key-riced.

Is the "surprise envelope" - acid tabs like with the cd version?(i dont have japanese or SL cd). I dont expect my SL vinyl to come until the weekend at earliest.

Do you have the Mabuta No Ura japanese or brazillian version? (theres 2 brazillian versions ordinary cd and a very ltd box set which theres only 200 of, which again was very expensive at $40)

If you think thats bad there was 5 different colours of Sunn o))) black one, and theres also now a pic disk.
The last Khanate album on Hydrahead(hydrahead also make you buy a tshirt or slipmat with all pre orders) had 5 different colours too.
Isis and Red Sparowes have US and Euro pressings with multiple colour versions.

Don't bug me when bands release vinyl in a variety of colors, or "deluxe editions" of CDs with elaborate packaging and bonus discs. That kind of thing appeals strictly to collectors and megafans, who seem perfectly happy to have new doodads to sink their disposable income into. Like the idiots that buy collectible vinyl figures.

The Boris approach, however, is a bit sneakier. Boris, lately, release a shorter version of the album, then slowly trickle out longer and longer versions in overseas and alternate-media releases.

It's not a question of packaging, which I don't give a shit about, but one of (seemingly) releasing an "edited" version of the album first, and then later releasing the full-blown "director's cut".

I mean, I love vinyl records, and was bummed to have missed out on the inoxia release. So, I'm happy to have the SL vinyl. But I paid about $30 bucks for that import CD, and if I wasn't a vinyl guy, I'd be fucking PISSED.

What, I have to wait for yet another "perfect version" CD release just to own the complete text of a record that I've shelled plenty of good money for? Bogus. Bogus bogus bogus.

Put extra material on the CD or LP? Fine. Release a limited edition with a bonus disc? Fine.

But don't keep releasing and rereleasing the same record in different versions. The "Mabuta No Ura" thing was especially annoying, 'cuz the record was so lackluster. I didn't buy it in ANY version, 'cuz I'm not an investor or a collector. I just like good records.

I think they're killing their own momentum with this shit.

Anybody listen to The Thing Which Solomon Overlooked 2 and 3 LP's? They're actually really great and deserve much more attention. The Vein LP should be released on Important very soon.

Again, it's part of the "marketing strategy." And yeah, they're GREAT records. But again, the whole thing leaves a bad taste in my mouth.

x-post.

yes. Theres akways ltd repressings. On different colours so collectors/hardcore fans will buy again.

"oh boy - if we really soak the fan boys, we'll make an extra 2 g's to share amongst ourselves!" -it's more likely entirely about aesthetics

that's kinda my point - profiteering is the motive being ascribed, but for real? "oh yeah I totally PWN3D that fanboy, now I have five bucks"

But I doubt it. I don't think that's the master plan. I think it IS all about aesthetics: Boris are working the aesthetics of cool. The, "you want me, but you can't have me," tactics are stylish, and they're what the art world has always relied on to create "value" and drive demand. Nothing wrong with that, right?

Right. But while big profits clearly aren't the driving factor, there is a "conspiracy angle" to Boris' strategy: I think they're very intentionally manipulating their (kinda scarily devoted) fanbase in order to build word-of-mouth among hipsters, critics and other tastemakers. And it's working like gangbusters.

Therefore, it kinda pisses me off. As a fan, I feel manipulated and used. If your music is worth hearing, make it available to me.

I don't give a shit about "collectability." And I don't have a ton of money to throw around. In this latter sense (if not the former), I suspect I'm representative of the band's fanbase. And I wish they'd quit jerking me around.

lucky me.
found a mint cd copy with all the inserts for a mere £2 in fopp today.
bought on coverart alone and some slight memory of them being loud (ha !)
have to say i struck gold with this.

southern lord or inoxia version?

man, i was a dork in this thread

southern lord

i aint into the transpotter stuff, as this is the first album i've heard by them.

guess i need to investigate more !

pink isn't a typical southern lord release though. much more pop than most of the stuff they put out.

Oh man and this is like their sixth or seventh best album! Depending on what you like most about them I can recommend a few directions to head in next.

yeah, would agree. otoh, it's the transition point between older noise/doom boris and newer pop/psych boris, so it's a pretty good place to start, imo.

I think it and Smile may be what he likes best then the albums after, knowing mark. But I will try to get him into the earlier stuff including Heavy Rocks (1) (they released another album last year called Heavy Rocks which is a different album completely) and Akuma No Uta. I will leave the best 3 Absolutego,Flood and Amplifier Worship til the end.

Oh yeah, its a great starting point for sure. I'd just say there are lots of directions to branch off in. I think he might also really like the collab with Michio Kurihara that has one of my favorite guitar solos ever on it.

suspect i'm more about the pop/noise aspect .. though the 20 minute closer is the track that pleases me the most.

speaking of boris and their wacky ways, has anyone heard the two long bonus tracks on the LP version of Rainbow? are they rockin'? i really like that album, but haven't heard those.

yeah, "just abandoned myself" kicks ass, but it's pretty unique in their catalog

that was to mark e.

phew : 'woman on the screen'

now that i could have a lot more of.

suspect they dont do the uptempo garage thing too often then ?

has anyone heard the two long bonus tracks on the LP version of Rainbow?

i've only got the standard LP, so no, but i'm downloading them as we speak. thanks for the reminder!

suspect they dont do the uptempo garage thing too often then ?

not really, no. the best albums for that are pink and akuma no uta. and maybe the original heavy rocks, though that's more medium tempo 70s metal.

xp do u know where i can dl them plz

i would be interested in this vital information as well

somebody got em on slsk, alls i know. will leonardo if they're decent.

okay, y'all. turns out that the "bonus tracks" are two 20-minute low-intensity drones. no beats, peaks, kurihara solos or nothing. just 40 minutes worth of new age vacuum cleaner tones. worse, they're very poorly ripped from vinyl, quiet but w/ lots of surface noise. if anyone still wants them, i'll post dropbox links to leonardo, but i won't be listening to them again.

if the files i downloaded are what they claim to be, that is...

Thanks for taking that bullet for us, contenderizer.

bummer! was hoping for some more Cloud Chamber-style jamz. that one is really good too.

stuck 'em up in leonardo anyway, in case anyone's curious. first one is pretty heavy, anyway.

Speaking of "Just Abandoned Myself," anyone care to explain to me why I love the doomy closing ~6-7 minutes, despite pretty much categorically hating doom otherwise?