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Hard rock, hard hard rock, always some pesky gravel falling through ILXspace, getting lodged somewhere way down the anatomy of ThreaddGoddz. George Smith and xxuxx sang about Leanne Kingwell on this year's Rolling Metal pt.1 (xxhux also on Rolling Country), and yes she's luvly (and my own microview is on villagevoice.com today), but who's gonna see it on RM, that might think it's all about old leather mustachios and younger beetlebrowed sacrifices in 11/58 time and ironic versions of same? Such thread-weenies deserve to miss her, you say? Maybe, but she don't, and neither do The Back Door Men, the ones from Sweden (maybe the others too, but the Swedes are all I've heard), on their collection Sodra Esplanaden 3 (Subliminal Sounds, try forcedexposure.com), who crush most post-post-punk, and hold their own with other early 80s (in terms of tunefulness, vividness, ROCKINGness, if not conceptually as distinctive as Go4, JoyD); Atomic Bitch, who keep seeming like they're gonna get monotonous, but never ever do, not on my watch, anyway;Brain Surgeons NYC's Denial Of Death, Particle's Transformation Live, that tape of the LP of Man's Rhinos, Winos And Lunatics I just found behind my Dad's home entertainment center (home of his ancient VCR etc), and a lot of other stuff I haven't got time to write about at the moment. And you?

don (dow), Thursday, 6 July 2006 15:58 (nineteen years ago)

Also, did anybody see the documentary on Rock School (the basis for Jack Black's School Of Rock, sort of, but his isn't so good I'm told)? It was on A&E, but I'm hoping there's a DVD with bonus material, cos lots of questions (like who are the other instructors, aside from the piano teacher, who criticizes the main guy for ridiculing the p.t.'s daughter's church band, the Friends With Attitude or something; they're Quakers see--aside from these two, seems to be students teaching students, and do they get paid or discounts or what??)

don (dow), Thursday, 6 July 2006 16:07 (nineteen years ago)

Yes, I saw it. I hate Jack Black. So Rock School is better by default. Also in execution, because it's real. Philly dude who was a guitarist in a hair band in Pennsy, cut his hair, and started it as a livelihood. The documentary follows some of his students and two tiers of the bands formed at the school. One, made up of ridiculous and pathetic very young children trying to play Black Sabbath and turning it into a thoroughly humiliating experience. And the cream of the crop, assembled to play "Inca Roads" at a Zappa festival in Germany, with a Zappa sideman included. (It's the guy who is touring with Zappa Does Zappa, a longtime frontman and singer for Frank who name escapes me.) They do a good job.

Some of the kids who sign their kids up for his school are the usual upper middle class mainline types and they make your skin crawl in their hubris and desire to have little Johnny be a rockstar. In particular is the family of one young guitar freak, who does the Eddie van Halen thing on a guitar that's bigger than he is. Because he's a freak, he sticks out, not because of his "musical" ability which is run of the mill Saturday afternoon at Guitar Center, if you know the experience.

When he has to play some rock 'n' roll, ie -- not an Eddie van Halen solo, he's horrible. He's a kid machine trained in finger gymnastics. At one point he has to go to a hospital to have a defect in his leg corrected, so he does his Eddie van Halen thing sitting in a chair in front of a crowd, like Blind Lemon Malmsteen. It's unintentionally absurd and perverse.

I rented it and it was worth the cash money. There's also a CD. Horrible patience-trying version of "School's Out" on it with Alice Cooper sitting in. Imagine a robot-like band of kids playing the tune, repeating the chorus ad nauseum as Alice gamely sings. It made me sweat during the end credits, which was the point, I think.

Lots of brow-beating by the headmaster and one kid, a suicidal mumbler, who is such a loser he eventually gets thrown out, but still manages to steal much of the "show" by dint of his "character."

Urnst Kouch (Urnst Kouch), Thursday, 6 July 2006 17:15 (nineteen years ago)

The first set of the Black Sabbath was horrible, but he gave them a talking to, not a rant as usual, and the second set was much better, I thought,at least by comparison. Yeah, i don't even like the real Eddie Van Halen, most of the time, why would I like that kid doing his Starlicks freezedried shit. The Zappa set, at the German Zappa festival, was much better than I thought it would be, since I'm not that hot for Zappa either. That girl's voice is petty powerful for her Sheryl Crow coffee house set and "Inca Roads," not to mention the Quaker hip hop.The Zappa sideman is Napoleon Murphy Brock.

don (dow), Thursday, 6 July 2006 17:40 (nineteen years ago)

And the headmaster was ripping into somebody, got reproached by a kid (they do resist his methods at times, healthily enough), and said something like ,"Sh-h-h, it'll look go on Reality TV," and gets some knowing chuckles. Not quite a crazy person deciding to "act" crazy (maybe), but still. The xpost suicidal mumbler has some pretty good comments.

don (dow), Thursday, 6 July 2006 17:46 (nineteen years ago)

there's a band called Chooglin' in mpls right now that does pretty good 70s hard rock (sometimes) w/horns....couple dudes are ex-Midnight Evils who were a more biker rock thing that put an album out on Estrus a couple years ago.

M@tt He1geson, Rendolent Ding-Dong (Matt Helgeson), Thursday, 6 July 2006 18:06 (nineteen years ago)

What 70s hard rock with horns do they do? Yes, time for a biker rock update! I'd say Brain Surgeons NYC's Denial Of Death, Copperhead's Live, and--?

don (dow), Thursday, 6 July 2006 18:18 (nineteen years ago)

I AM LISTENING TO RANDY HOLDEN RIGHT NOW.


scott seward (scott seward), Thursday, 6 July 2006 22:18 (nineteen years ago)

ha ha, note this album's title....how many of these songs are we still allowed to call "heavy metal"?

For Immediate Release

June 9, 2006

HEAVY METAL ROCKS

NOW MORE THAN EVER

IN

Heavy Metal: The First 20 Years
In Stores July 25th

Head Banging Tunes From

Iron Butterfly, Motorhead, Kiss,

Alice Cooper, Judas Priest, The Scorpions and More

Fairfax, VA --- When nearly every town in the country has a radio station that still plays songs like Kiss’ “Detroit Rock City,” “Rock You Like a Hurricane” by the Scorpions and Judas Priest’s “Breaking the Law,” there’s no escaping the fact that heavy metal, rock n’ roll’s brazen and histrionic stepchild, has endured the test of time. Heavy Metal: The First 20 Years (in stores July 25th, Time Life) is a tribute to the bands that rocked, filled with songs that manage to be both nostalgic yet as relevant as ever. Vintage metal videos still run on VH1 Classic around the clock and fans still wear their beloved tour t-shirts, but this time around, their adolescent kids are wearing them too.

Filled with songs from the first two decades of earsplitting rock (1964-1984), Heavy Metal boasts stadium anthems by Alice Cooper, Kiss and the Scorpions and the over-the-top orchestrations by acts like Iron Butterfly and Queensryche. Quiet Riot’s pop-crossover hit, “Cum on Feel The Noize” is tempered by Dio’s sonic masterpiece “Holy Diver” and Motorhead’s speed metal “Ace of Spades,” showcasing the full spectrum of the heavy metal genre. Defined by its loud instrumentation, relatively simple song structure and raucous lyrics, heavy metal first roared on both sides of the Atlantic in the 1960s and continues to be one of the most enduring and popular forms of rock.

About Time Life Inc.

Headquartered in Fairfax VA, Time Life Inc. was founded in 1961 as a direct marketing company specializing in music and books. It has since grown to become one of the world’s largest direct marketers of audio and video products, selling more than 13 million units each year throughout North America, Europe, Asia and Australia, and is the largest advertiser of music products in Germany, Australia, and the United Kingdom. Time-Life set the standard in the direct response industry by pioneering direct marketing techniques, building one of the most trusted and recognized brands in commerce. The company now also sells their products through major traditional and non-traditional retailers around the world as well as via the Internet. Time Life is a registered trademark of Time Warner Inc. used under license by Direct Holdings Americas Inc., which is not affiliated with Time Warner Inc.

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Heavy Metal: The First 20 Years
Tracklisting

1. You Really Got Me / The Kinks

2. In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida / Iron Butterfly

3. Eighteen / Alice Cooper

4. Easy Livin / Uriah Heep

5. Detroit Rock City / Kiss

6. Free-for-All / Ted Nugent

7. Godzilla / Blue Öyster Cult

8. Kill the King / Rainbow

9. Ace of Spades / Motörhead

10. Breaking the Law / Judas Priest

11. Hot Love / Aldo Nova

12. Heavy Metal Love / Helix

13. Cum On Feel the Noize / Quiet Riot

14. Holy Diver / Dio

15. Queen of the Reich / Queensrÿche

16. Screaming in the Night / Krokus

17. Balls to the Wall / Accept

18. Rock You Like a Hurricane / Scorpions

xhuxk (xheddy), Friday, 7 July 2006 00:02 (nineteen years ago)

i love Dio

XD (eman), Friday, 7 July 2006 00:31 (nineteen years ago)

how many of these songs are we still allowed to call "heavy metal"?

Take it over to Rolling Metal 2006 - Zwei and ask for wisdom. Wait, that's impossible.

Urnst Kouch (Urnst Kouch), Friday, 7 July 2006 00:50 (nineteen years ago)

anyway, some good 2006 HARD ROCK WE'RE PROBABLY NOT ALLOWED TO CALL HEAVY METAL ANYMORE BECAUSE OF SOME STUPID FASCIST FUCKS WHO ARE STILL CHILDREN: victory brothers/ damone/kentucky headhunters (*flying under the radar*, compiles best tracks from the last three albums they put out, the first of which i never heard -- this is great, and "back to the sun" is as beautiful a song as i've heard this year!)/leanne kingwell/huck johns /crash kelly/electric boogie dawgz/hank davison band /def leppard/riverside /john palumbo (new solo album!)/shannon brown/lucas mccain/flyleaf /jesus h christ and the four hornsmen of the apocalypse/shooter jennings/variant cause/carter falco/science fiction idols/atomic bitch/towers of london/uncle billy's smokehouse/*rollerball* /crucified barabara

also, i can't find my copperhead CD! does anybody know where i put it? i thought it was older, but *live and lost* actually only came out in 2005, which means it's eligbile for 2006 lists by definition!

xhuxk (xheddy), Friday, 7 July 2006 01:33 (nineteen years ago)

"STUPID FASCIST FUCKS WHO ARE STILL CHILDREN"

Aww.

lrsn (larssen), Friday, 7 July 2006 01:38 (nineteen years ago)

also, "chug a lug" on that new kentucky headhunters LP is a very good stretched-out "dance mix" ("do the jerk! do the watusi! do the chugalug!"), so, NOT the same version as on their all covers album last year. BUT "big boss man" IS the same version, making this the best album with their version of "big boss man" on it, which, since that was possibly the hardest rocking track ANYBODY made in 2005, somewhat MATTERS. also there are a couple never-before-released tracks, apparently, but I haven't figured out which ones they are yet, since i've been too lazy to read the liner notes. and "go to heaven" sounds like if john anderson (who covered "keep your hands to yourself" once) actually JOINED the georgia satellites. hotdamn.

xhuxk (xheddy), Friday, 7 July 2006 01:43 (nineteen years ago)

aggagagahjajjaahaaa there's no Dio thread on ILM? search brought up lots of radiohead threads but NO DIO THREAD WTF DO I HAVE TO START A DIO THERED OR WHEAT

XD (eman), Friday, 7 July 2006 01:49 (nineteen years ago)

sorry nm i found the ronnie james one :-])

XD (eman), Friday, 7 July 2006 01:53 (nineteen years ago)

The stupid fascist fucks are just stupid fucks. Fascist implies control and no one has any control whether or not we choose to annoy them in various threads.

Urnst Kouch (Urnst Kouch), Friday, 7 July 2006 03:08 (nineteen years ago)

Oh of course you crybabies can call anything metal, All Is Permitted. And bring it along, butt this is for other stuff too, umkay??? Kin Ah finish? Will yew let me finish. Here's The Back Door Men: http://www.subliminalsounds.se/ http://www.doloresrecordings.com/

The God Of Hellfire (dow), Friday, 7 July 2006 04:12 (nineteen years ago)

Oh yeah, Subliminal Sounds' Thai Beat A-Go Go triology is erratic, but the best tracks are hothouse strobe disrobings and drastic bar band surgery on the Sick Sixties. Vols. 2 & 3 have more good tracks than Vol. 1, but the latter's good is more like GREAT

The God (dow), Friday, 7 July 2006 04:26 (nineteen years ago)

The ZZ Top deluxe editions of Tres Hombres and Fandango:

http://www.dickdestiny.com/blog/2006/07/guitars-vice-and-religion-zz-tops.html

Urnst Kouch (Urnst Kouch), Wednesday, 19 July 2006 19:18 (nineteen years ago)

I bought Black Stone Cherry on the Gooze's recommendation, which can be iffy 'cuz he's sometimes gets sucked in by the budget-pricing at BestBuy. Ten dollars! Cheap! The right price, actually.

The deluxe edition comes with a DVD that tells you more about them in fifteen minutes than you want to know. White trash from Kentucky, two of 'em are sons of Kentucky Headhunters. But that's as far as it goes. Grew up in a town like where I grew up, but anyone who was any good in town got run out, so right away you're suspicious when the locals start professing love on camera and testifying as to how much the local boys sure do rock. Takes a trip to the pool hall to show you the salt-of-the-earth standard inbred of the interior where there are always two surnames in the thin phonebook of 1000+ with at least two hundred entries.

They say a number of times how old school they are. This means the posters in their rehearsal space are old and that they went to an old high school, an old school being one that looks like it was built in the late 80's or 90's.

Fair version of "Shapes of Things." Some of it sounds like a southern slant on Alice in Chains. Band says on camera how they want to open the door for southern rock. I thought the door was already wide open on CD Baby. "Tired of the Rain" is boosted by an organ line that penetrates the double Les Paul Marshall sludge.

Mostly, it's too slow and not hook-filled enough for what they aspire to. "Rollin' On' and "Hell or High Water", for example, only get near Copperhead territory when they should be right dab smack in the middle of it. The latter might grow on you.

Meta tags: bags of model glue, Boones Farm, bag of Chuckles, salt-of-the-earth, cow flop, pasture, cave, shed, clapboard, rural route 2, downtuned guitars into Marshalls or Peavey 5150's, trudge, earnest lyrics, hated school, love grandad and Old Grand Dad, annoying suvvern heevahava drawl, look like young Lynyrd Skynyrd minus one or two but sure don't sound anything like them, sent nationwide for a mercilessly brief run on the pure milk of human kindness.

C+, maybe a B- if they'd written more like "Hell or High Water,"

Urnst Kouch (Urnst Kouch), Tuesday, 25 July 2006 21:49 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, I forget in "meta tags:" cigar store redskins, Fram Filters, Castrol.

Urnst Kouch (Urnst Kouch), Tuesday, 25 July 2006 21:52 (nineteen years ago)

Can you actually buy Chuckles by the bag? I would if I could.

scott seward (scott seward), Tuesday, 25 July 2006 22:45 (nineteen years ago)

Yes, but they're not always called Chuckles. The Mex markets in the neighborhood have them. But the distribution to blue-blood northeast island-ville, or anything in a vaguely similar demographic is shit, I would think.

The first seven tunes from Black Stone Cherry could have been left on the hard drive in Hollywood. Then it's track number eight to thirteen which are acceptable, throwing out one as accidental dreck. Autotune also very present. I don't detest obvious autotune, but it's not necessary, by any means, in this sort of music.

The title of this thread bites it, guaranteeing few to none will read about an idiom already thought, mistakenly, to be marginal. Thanks for overthinking, dudes.

Urnst Kouch (Urnst Kouch), Wednesday, 26 July 2006 05:01 (nineteen years ago)

I made an error. Pasadena is blue-blood, too. But pockets of the servant class exist within it, which have led to markets which serve cheap meats, vegetables, dry goods, boozes and candies -- like Chuckles, none of which can be found in the white people's markets a block away. So if that kind of market exists in northeast island-ville, they could still have Chuckles or something that is the same only named different. That's the way it works here, anyway.

Reminds me of the ACME in Pine Grove, Schuylkill country, combined with the late 70's Liquor Control Board State Store.

Urnst Kouch (Urnst Kouch), Wednesday, 26 July 2006 05:32 (nineteen years ago)

ugggh, george got way further into that black stone cherry CD than i did; the rustic trappings lured me tino putting the thing on (though i had no idea that scions of kentucky headhunters, whose *flying under the radar* might be my favorite album of the year, were involved), but they just sounded constipated like creed. if i still have it around, i'll check out those later tracks, but i doubt i do.

anyway, here are hard rock albums i paid either 50 cents or $1 for at antique barns upstate last week; which should i listen to first?

angel - white hot LP
aviary - aviary LP
bighorn - bighorn LP
billion dollar babies - battle axe LP
derringer - derringer live LP
david essex - all the fun of the fair LP (assuming this is hard rock; did he do anything else like "rock on," ever? i have no idea)
janitors - thunderhead 12-inch EP (brit postpunk artfuck hard rock?)
labelle - chameleon (probably not hard rock but i noticed that nona hendryx wrote most of the songs so you never know, now do you?)
reo speedwagon - good trouble LP (followup to hi infidelity, which i like a lot though it's long after their "golden country" peak, hmmm.)
tom robinson band - power in the darkness double LP (gay new wave shoutalong hard rock which may or may not actually rock hard enough)
tom robinson band - trb two LP (ditto)
starvation army - mercenary position LP (cleveland artfuck hard rock? or maybe not? supposedly doug gillard was in the band once)
the three degrees - live LP (almost definitely not hard rock but they cover "free ride" so what the hell i'll list it here anyway)

xhuxk (xheddy), Wednesday, 26 July 2006 13:00 (nineteen years ago)

Derringer Live is a fairly hot example of what the guy was doing in the mid-70's, which was be in a band, as opposed to solo. Danny Johnson is on second guitar so there's a lot of shit hot axe dueling, like on "Across the Universe." "Sailor" is a fairly good slice of hard and fast rock with hook and great wah-wah solo to the beat in the middle. Version of "Teenage Love Affair" is good, too. "Hootchie Koo" is long, drawn out for concert show-boating. The band was great if you saw 'em, completely thrashing Aerosmith at the Spectrum when Steve & Joe were getting into their totally wasted before going onstage habits.

Aviary sounds like a harder rock version of Supertramp. Sometimes a bit of prog, sometimes a little Queen, they sound veddy British but were from Washington state.

"White Hot" is Angel's power pop record. Some of the songs are good in a sub-Slade way. Frank Dimino's voice is kind of wearing over much more than thirty minutes. They were trying desperately for a radio hit, the record company was about to give up on 'em and that was the studio show until a live album came out the following year and they were dropped.

Billion Dollar Babies' "Battleaxe" is amusing, about as good as Alice Cooper's "Muscle of Love." The mini-opera, "Battleaxe Suite," is kind of cool. Manowar lyrics before Manowar. They performed it live about once, I think, in Michigan the same year the album came out before breaking up. The pre-production version of "Battleaxe" -- included in the Billion Dollar Babies box set (yes, amazingly, there is one) -- is a better record because the record company took the songs and made them re-record them prettied up a little for pop consumption. There's one really embarrassing song on "Battleaxe" which, I think, was aimed at being a single, "Too Young," which sounds like something Kim Fowley would have written for the Runaways or Venus & the Razorblades or the Orchids. "Rock 'n' Roll Radio" is kind of hokey, too.

First Tom Robinson Band double certainly rocks hard enough with blazing guitar on most of the cuts. Check "Long Hot Summer." Second doesn't rock hard at all, almost sounding like a different band.

Urnst Kouch (Urnst Kouch), Thursday, 27 July 2006 05:47 (nineteen years ago)

Oops, error. "Sinful" was Angel's powerpop record. "White Hot" preceded it. Has a cover, the Rascals' "Ain't Gonna Eat Out My Heart Anymore" which they slaughter. Not much substance to it. Glammy, really trying to be pop metal but too clumsy or twee when it doesn't have to be. Not as good as "Sinful." I have some CD-Rs of Angel catalog sitting around. Maybe I should make a composite 80-minute including live stuff. In that context, Angel is fair more often than not. The live album wound up being a favorite after the fact. When I was a kid me and my brother fooled ourselves into thinking we liked the first two albums which are heavy mixed metal and prog messes with sludged production that makes the material sound more imposing.
I pull them out maybe once a year for old time sake. Dressing all in white seemed cool, a year or two on they just looked weird and hapless.

Zappa wrote a song about the guitarist, Punky Meadows, called "Punky's Whips," which is hysterical. It's on Baby Snakes and Lather in a live version from NYC. The lore was that it was about FZ's drummer, Terry Bozzio, masturbating to a record company promo shot of Meadows. The lore also was that Meadows liked it but I find that part unbelievable. The song is funny but mean-spirited.

In today's rapidly changing world
Rock groups appear every fifteen minutes,
Utilizing some new promotional device.
Some of these devices have been known
To leave irreparable scars
On the minds of foolish young consumers.
One such case is seated before you:
Little skinny Terry 'Ted' Bozzio,
That cute little drummer!
That's right!
Terry recently fell in love
With a publicity-photo of a boy named Punky Meadows...
(Oh Punky!)...
Lead guitar player from a group called Angel.
In the photograph,
Punky was seen with a beautiful shiny hairdo
In a semi-profile which emphasized the pootched out succulence
Of his insolent pouting rictus,
The sight of which drove the helpless young drummer mad with desire!

I can't stand the way he pouts
'Cause he might not be pouting for me!
Punky Meadows, pouting for you?
Ha! You bet sailor!
You mean,
You mean he's not...he's not pouting...
He's not pouting for me?
His hair's so shiny and it's done real nice
'Til I squirm with ecstasy

Punky, Punky, give me your lips to die on!

Oh Punky, isn't it romantic?

Punky, Punky, give me your lips
To die on...I promise not to come in your mouth
Punky, Punky, your album's the shits!
It's all wrong!

I ain't really queer
But if he ever got near
Steven Tyler would PAY to see!
PAY to see!

Punky's lips, Punky's lips
His hair's so shiny,
I love his hips!
I love his teeth and his gums and such!
Punky
(What is it? You come home!)
You're an Angel!
You're too much
(Oh God!)

The boys of my thoughts in my lonely teenage room!

He's been havin' a rash
(No shit!)
That keeps the girls away
(It's true)
Skin doom
(Skin doom)
Is what the doctors say
And that makes me wonder
I wonder what Punky is rehearsing today
I'll just go over, and hear him play
His hair is so pretty...I'd like to bite his neck
I've heard a rumor he's more fluid than Jeff Beck
BUT I AIN'T QUEER
I AIN'T GAY
(He's a little fond of chiffon in a wrist array-ee-ay-ee-ay)
A wrist array-ee-ay
(That's all that is, I swear!)

Punky's lips, Punky's lips!
Oh! I love his hair while eatin' dunk-y chips
Yeah! I love his blink and his blank-blank-blank
Why, maybe he'd like to yank my crank?
YANK IT PUNKY!
YANK IT FASTER!
YANK IT HARDER!
YANK IT ALL NITE LONG!
COME ON PUNKY!
GET FUNKY!

I AIN'T QUEER
No no no no!
I AIN'T GAY
No no no no!
(He's a little fond of chiffon in a wrist array-ee-ay-ee-ay)
Wrist array-ee-ay
And then he told me now:
I AIN'T QUEER!
(Hey!)
I AIN'T GAY!
(Hey! Hey!)
(He's a little fond of chiffon in a wrist array-ee-ay-ee-ay)

I-I, Lord,
I'm fo-o-o-ond of chiffo-on
In a wrist array-ee-ay
Oh oh oh oh!
I-I, I said I'm fo-o-ond of chiffo-on
In a wri-i-i-i-ist array
Come on Punky!
Give me your lips!
Ride on my Venus-trip!

Urnst Kouch (Urnst Kouch), Thursday, 27 July 2006 17:53 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, Creem found inspiration in Angel,too (Reek Johnson's Punky Meadows Lip Farm, for one thing).Frank's really getting off on Terry getting off on Punky, eh? Reminds me of Particle's "space porn." Speaking of which, I just wrote this, for Brian O'Neill: http://www.uweekly.com/stary.php?iidart=3434

don (dow), Thursday, 27 July 2006 19:39 (nineteen years ago)

sorry! http://www.uweekly.com/story.php?iidart=3431

Rudy Wontfail (dow), Thursday, 27 July 2006 19:45 (nineteen years ago)

shit fuck! That was Tapes 'N' Tapes, this is Particle: http://uweekly.com/story.php?iidart=3434

Rudy Wontfail (dow), Thursday, 27 July 2006 19:49 (nineteen years ago)

Chuck, you're going to want to dig up the Teaze debut -- just reissued, if you don't have it. Budget-priced, couldn't pass it up. Why am I even spraying out these ideas?

Canadian quartet in the same place as Brooklyn's Riot. Guitar's are a hair more incinerated than Riot's first two, which says something. They look glam and cartoon happy on the cover but sound altogether more carnivorous in the grooves. Competitive with the Nuge, knuckle-dragging dumbo muscle car rock and roll lyrics (It's takes all kindsa people to make this world a better place, so come along and sing & live rock 'n' roll with us, etc, it's the boy's night out, smokin' and swearin' 'till daybreak, boy they're real bikers, ha-ha-ha, let's go curse!), whiplashing lead, built on songs for the most part. Stuff greases Angel easy. Slays Kiss at one hundred yards.

Didn't translate to the States, except Texas, where they were big in San Antonio, where there was a hard rock nuts dominating FM station. Everyone was big in San Antone.

Found it hard to believe Joan Jett is priced at 20 dollars for her new one. Looks like it covered Westerberg's "Androgynous" and Badfinger's "Baby Blue" but JJ records are no way worth parting with that green. Where's the nice price? Eesh.

Urnst Kouch (Urnst Kouch), Thursday, 27 July 2006 20:30 (nineteen years ago)

Wait, didn't she already cover "Androgynous" a few years ago?

Yeah, thought so (not sure if I ever heard this album, though):

http://allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&token=ADFEAEE67818DE4EAD7E20C79A3A40CDAD67FD1BFE5AFB86112F0456D3B82D40AF1844C34FA39A81B6E577B366ADFF2EA21609D9CEEC5CFFD9765D40&sql=10:ouaqoaralij9

xhuxk (xheddy), Thursday, 27 July 2006 21:43 (nineteen years ago)

that bighorn album isn't that great. if it's the one with a bighorn sheep on the cover. or at least i can't remember much about it. i always liked that billion dollar babies album. i liked the spiders from mars album too. weren't starvation army from chicago? maybe not. i think this scary dude i met once was there singer at one time. brian something. he died. he was a scary junkie. he was gonna sing one nite at the anthrax with my friends malcolm and jim in their band the king hatreds but he was so fucked up that he just ran off stage. he scared me. i remember jim slackjaw knipfel wrote an obit for him in the philly free paper. i like all angel albums. so much better than kiss rekkerds. i used to have that TRB double album, but i only ever played sing if yer glad to be gay and the one about the ford cortina. the motorway song. derringer rocks of course. is bobby caldwell on drums? i can't remember. my hero. the three degrees are great. i don't own any REO albums. i've never heard aviary or the janitors. the david essex is probably either really good or really bad. ha!

scott seward (scott seward), Thursday, 27 July 2006 22:20 (nineteen years ago)

is bobby caldwell on drums

No, it was one of the Appices, Vinnie, I think. I'm digging through piles for the Angel Cd-Rs. You can never find it when you want it, then it shows up when you're looking for something else.

Killola's Louder, LOUDER! was a recent pleasant surprise. Nothing like what's been talked about above, though.

Urnst Kouch (Urnst Kouch), Thursday, 27 July 2006 22:35 (nineteen years ago)

So wot's it like, then?

don (dow), Thursday, 27 July 2006 23:54 (nineteen years ago)

Holly & the Italians' first album, The Right to Be Italian. Crunchy guitar, great girly singer. Pop tunes with spine. Rock 'n' roll.

Urnst Kouch (Urnst Kouch), Friday, 28 July 2006 00:16 (nineteen years ago)

Ha ha, the Aviary's guy's high notes on Side 2 sound EXACTLY like the guy from the Darkness, cool. (Scott would hate it, I guess!)

xhuxk (xheddy), Friday, 28 July 2006 01:10 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, I have two albums by them and it predates the Darkness by around twenty years. They were total Anglophiles.

Urnst Kouch (Urnst Kouch), Friday, 28 July 2006 02:07 (nineteen years ago)

First side of the Angel album I bought ends with a decent half-assed Zep rip. Second side is *weird*: disco turning into fast rock with crazy vocal echoes, more fake Zep, bizarre mixes of doo-wop vocals with church choirs in the background singing about winter. So yeah, more fun than Kiss for sure, even on this supposedly subpar (sez everybody from Martin Popoff on down) LP. But not as good as Starz.

Killola look very promising, but there's no way to contact the band on either their website or (see below) cdbaby page. Am I actually going to have to listen to their songs on line?? God forbid...

http://cdbaby.com/cd/killola

xhuxk (xheddy), Friday, 28 July 2006 02:12 (nineteen years ago)

the david essex is probably either really good or really bad

uh....I'm thinking really bad so far. (part of lyric of the first song: "jack the lad/king of kings/lord of the rings", honest!) but cool sound effects! which "rock on" obviously had, too. it might take me a while to figure this out. his voice just sits there most of the time, totally immobile. i'm realizing that i have no concept of essex at all. who the hell was he? a teen idol? a studio whiz? i guess i figured he was following in marc bolan's footsteps, maybe? was "rock on" an anamoly? this is ickily twee cups-and-cakes singer- songerwriter music by some dork who likes sgt. pepper's too much, but....i can imagine somebody, somewhere, finding it interesting. (like maybe people who like apples in stereo or guided by voices?)

xhuxk (xheddy), Friday, 28 July 2006 02:28 (nineteen years ago)

Must say it again! The Ron Goedert (White Witch singer) solo album, Breaking All the Rules, from 1980 on Polydor - if you ever see it ...

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Friday, 28 July 2006 02:34 (nineteen years ago)

xp: I mean, Aviary were just as twee, even more so, but way prettier and catchier about it. More rock, too, even if it was Sparks-rock or 10cc-rock or yeah Supertramp-rock (though they *look* like they'd be a metal band, which is interesting). Essex sings so clunky, it's hard to imagine anybody hearing beauty in this. And with music like this, without beauty, what the hell's it good for? (Yet I don't ever remember thinking "Rock On" sounded clunky. I've been jumping up and down in my blue suede shoes for as long as I can remember. Weird.)

xhuxk (xheddy), Friday, 28 July 2006 02:40 (nineteen years ago)

more than you will ever need to know:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Essex

scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 28 July 2006 02:42 (nineteen years ago)

xp (Okay, Sparks-rock verges toward hyperbole; don't wanna get Tim's hopes up. George had it right the first time with Supertramp.) (Essex now using pow-wow sound effects a la "Indian Reservation" or Chief Nokahoma. Might be interesting if he could make the song rock.)

xhuxk (xheddy), Friday, 28 July 2006 02:43 (nineteen years ago)

Now he is trying to boogie. (And thanks Scott. Not sure if I'll read that, though; I sort of want to retain my ignorance about the dude.)

xhuxk (xheddy), Friday, 28 July 2006 02:52 (nineteen years ago)

Sparks-rock verges toward hyperbole; don't wanna get Tim's hopes up

I appreciate that.

There's an amazingly twee song on the Goedert album about a little boy and little people in the fields and his space friend who lands on his roof.

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Friday, 28 July 2006 02:52 (nineteen years ago)

ok, essex's voice actually works better with the more macho (but still not very good, i don't think) rock song "here it comes again" that he almost ends the album with, but by then it's too fucking late. guess it's not worth selling the LP on ebay, either, damn:

http://search.ebay.com/search/search.dll?sofocus=bs&sbrftog=1&from=R10&satitle=david+essex+%22all+the+fun%22&sacat=11233%26catref%3DC6&sargn=-1%26saslc%3D2&sadis=200&fpos=ZIP%2FPostal&ftrt=1&ftrv=1&saprclo=&saprchi=&fsop=1%26fsoo%3D1&coaction=compare&copagenum=1&coentrypage=search&fgtp=

xhuxk (xheddy), Friday, 28 July 2006 03:01 (nineteen years ago)

Killola look very promising, but there's no way to contact the band on either their website or (see below)

Yes there is. Killola at gmail. Which I schwicked off their website. They sent me a CD posthaste for PTW.

I dug out my home remaster of Angel's Live Without a Net and it's about the best because it roughs up the weird and the pop from White Hot and Sinful, and smooths out the pompous prog on the first two. Was '80 and way too late for 'em to match Kiss Alive which it's better than as a meat and potatoes lively hard album with keys and guitars veering between bubblegum late 60's rock and Keith Emerson, on the whole. And when I was decades younger I liked Kiss Alive. Their highest chart was for the single "20th Century Foxes," also in '80 which was the theme for "Foxes," the Jodie Foster/Cheri Currie/Scott Baio vehicle about bad good bad and loose girls in the San Fernando Valley. Angel had a cameo rock gig and Peter Frampton played their manager, the Foster character's estranged dad, I think. It was as close as they came to the mainstream.

Aviary was produced by Gary Lyons who was fresh off of Hustler and Foreigner's first and he was a specialist in making hard rock records. Drank an incredible amount of booze when I saw him in action. Second album was never released until the CD age, the record company paid for it and bailed when the first did nothing.

Another band I dig out once or twice a year.

Urnst Kouch (Urnst Kouch), Friday, 28 July 2006 07:47 (nineteen years ago)

Hah-hah, I've scored a copy of the Def Leppard "Yeah!" bonus disc from Wal-mart with "Search & Destroy" and such and I didn't even have to go there. When I have a chance to listen I'll tell you about it. Too much other things this weekend.

Urnst Kouch (Urnst Kouch), Friday, 28 July 2006 07:53 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.chaoticworks.com/meadows/washington_city.html

This is interesting. Everything you ever wanted to know about Angel, maybe too much. I was wrong -- Meadows didn't mind "Punky's Whips," his bandmates did. But my gut feeling was right that their live album was better than Kiss Alive. Hard to believe Casablanca spent so much money on them they were over a million and a half in the hole when they were 86'd. It sure didn't show up in the records.

Urnst Kouch (Urnst Kouch), Friday, 28 July 2006 08:04 (nineteen years ago)

Haha, from Wikipedia, always good for comedy:

For better or for worse, Angel was quite influential in their own way - particularly on the hair metal boom of the 1980s - and represent a kind of missing link between keyboard-driven hard rock bands of the '70s such as Uriah Heep and '80s acts like Poison.

Urnst Kouch (Urnst Kouch), Friday, 28 July 2006 13:59 (nineteen years ago)

David Essex also starred in a movie about a rock star who had just peaked, can't remember the title; Ringo Starr was his manager or something. So, re Aviary et al, maybe Pavlov's Dog should have gone metal, or did they, or where they anyway? (a dealer tried to hype me on a previously unreleased album, back before CDs, but I'd never even heard the one or ones that came out in their lifetime, so passed). TRB's Power In The Darkness was confusing at the time, because didn't fit the stereotypes. He was emphatically gay, but just looked like a regular bloke, and didn't play glam or disco, or even punk. True, "Grey Cortina" and the one about looking back on the Great Class War Of '79 (recorded in like ''77 or so) were kind of Mott, and "Glad To Be Gay," in a minor key, was kind of Mott too, and some Kinks in there, but they also tried to heavy up, but then again not metal exactly, more like a bar band, but with some real earbleed solos and "rhythm" (and not the good kind of earbleed) And "Power In The Darkness" itself had kind of a "Black Magic Woman," tap-tap-tap on the chorus, but was still pretty good, I think (haven't listened to any of this in 20 years, so might be totally wrong, but if you're trying to decide what to listen to next, FYI). I don't remember TWBII at all, but then he had this pretty good postpunk (having skipped actual punk entirely?) band, Sector 27, and some good solo albums like North By Northwest (also got married and had kids, but o course might still be gay)

don (dow), Friday, 28 July 2006 19:10 (nineteen years ago)

This show is still ostensibly about hard rock:

http://www.dickdestiny.com/blog/2006/08/supernova-summary-faults-which-render.html

Urnst Kouch (Urnst Kouch), Wednesday, 2 August 2006 08:00 (nineteen years ago)

Some stuff on Wounded Bird, one of my most cost effective buys. More and Foghat releases.

http://www.dickdestiny.com/blog/2006/08/wounded-bird-successfully-catering-to.html

And some print characterization that was worth ridicule:

http://www.dickdestiny.com/blog/2006/08/metal-band-into-scat-entertainment.html

Seemless came in the mail. Looks like modern no-listen metal. PR starts with tearsheet from Terrorizer, so it would be odd if it were my bag.

"Best of Teaze" encaps the Canadian group's product outside the first album. Third of it is produced by Miles, the April Wine main man and voice, so it has a glistening finish aimed at radio. In fact, it reminds you of a slightly harder version of April Wine, which would make them . . . Moxy with Mike Reno? About of third of it is rougher from "On the Loose," an album that put together the first album's toughness with somewhat finer production. Good version of "Gonna Have a Good Time Tonight." Lots of people rise to the occasion for Vanda & Young compositions and so did Teaze.

Urnst Kouch (Urnst Kouch), Saturday, 5 August 2006 21:38 (nineteen years ago)

The ZZ Top reissues are freaking great. I kind of wish they would have put even more live tracks from that show on the Fandango one, as there is just not very much live ZZ Top available.

I think the Black Stone Cherry would sound better if they didn't down tune the guitars so much.

Earl Nash (earlnash), Saturday, 5 August 2006 22:56 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, they are great. There was a bootleg CD I saw back in the Eighties that looked like a product of those tapes. "I'll Be Your Teddy Bear" from XXX was also a great live cut.

Agreed on Black Stone Cherry. They could throw out the first eight cuts, because those are the ones where they do the strenuous and trudging he-man downtuned rock thing.

Urnst Kouch (Urnst Kouch), Sunday, 6 August 2006 01:13 (nineteen years ago)

Now I'm starting to write about X, and just went back to hear them in the context of We're Desperate: The L.A. Scene (1976-79), from Rhino's old DIY series. The Pop! 's "Down On The Boulevard" so-what "power pop"; Motels' "Counting" not as good as their pop hits, like "Suddenly Last Summer, " but this is a demo; The Germs' "Forming": bitching about the music, and then "I quit", how punk, but he's the worst one on here (track and album); ditto their "Lexicon Devil." But the Dils "I Hate The Rich" (and the poor too, I think they mention, though weren't they supposed to be Marxists then? The truth about Commie losers!)"Mr. Big" is okay too, and The Weirdos' "We Got The Neutron Bomb," etc.(But X's "We're Desperate" and "Los Angeles" sound better on the Los Angeles/Wild Gift/most of Under The Big Black Sun C-100 I unearthed.) Faves by far so far are the Zeros' "Don't Push Me Around"; the Plugz pushing "La Bamba" around(it's okay, Tito was really Mexican, and "La Bamba" was only Spanglish)(but real good); the Quick's "Pretty Please"(thought they were from D.C.?); and Alley Cats' "Nothing Means Nothing Anymore," true gutter flair, worthy of a 60s garage rat disc Chris Cook made me a long time ago. So, what else should I have from these last four (or any others)?

don (dow), Sunday, 6 August 2006 03:05 (nineteen years ago)

Nothing. The Motels are something, but not hard rock. Pop's "Down On the Boulevard" is not one of their best tunes. Almost everything on their first vanity pressing was better. I had the Plugz album and it was fair to snore. The Alleycats first solo album was similar. LA punk rock barrel-scrapers and I like bs'ers but not these.

The Hypnotics should have made it to CD. Now there was a soCal band. First album made entirely by the song "Natzi Schnatzi" with the chorus, doubled, of "Heil Hitler!" Way more outrageous than watching twentysomething dingbats, mostly girls, going nuts to the Angry Samoans' "They Saved Hitler's Cock" at the Knitting Factory in modern times.

One of the most interesting features of punk rock that's popular now is that it's a favorite now with all the high school and post high school kinds on MySpace who, as a social class, would have hated the music and beaten the bands up when it was fresh. Nothing new here but it's astonishing to see the dumb girls and jocks at Samoans gigs in contrast to when they were pushing records outside the mainstream. Ten thousand plus "friends," mostly girls, on MySpace!

The Teaze records kill this shit. Dive bar 70-80's hard rock, fought out bitterly on fruitless and futile tours in Canada and the midwest. Plus I remastered and edited the Dead End Kids' "You Don't Like It, We Don't Care" which was in the same vein. For the mid-80's, featured one of the great rock singers (could do the righteous shout as well as the melodic croon) who never made it in any shape or form.

Was reading the press on Seamless, which drops the names of Pete Seeger and Don McLean because of recording at some 1,000 buck a day famous rock and roll chateau. Only the last song on the CD sounds classic rock, though. It could pass for good emulation of Pink Floyd but the rest is I'm-an-emotionally-depressed-man downtuned power rock with diversions to stoneland. The singer is good but has no songs to sing. And I wish this stuff were better because they're so earnest and striving but they never get beyond 90 bpm where 110 would be good. No guitar solos. Did I say they were earnest? Can't get enough of earnest and serious. Earnest with a big E and serious with a big S.

They seem to indicate they hate Creed but that's who they remind me of. Or Staind or Trapt so they're aiming for the five year old arena sound, which the production allows them to nail. And if they stuck to Pink Floyd, instead of saving it for the end, they might have made a much better record. Maybe it will grow on me, but most likely, not.

And "Girls Got Rhythm" crushes all this. As usual, the girls beat the hell out of the boys.

Plus the Gooze was recommending a relook at the Action Swingers. He claims "Decimation Boulevard" was face-punching.

And how 'bout the Blackjack reissue on Lemon?!? Pre-fame Michael Bolton with the guitarist who went on to Kiss and Pat Travers' drummer!

Urnst Kouch (Urnst Kouch), Sunday, 6 August 2006 04:38 (nineteen years ago)

(He Poos Rolling Stray Hard Rock Oort Clouds.)

Rockist_Scientist (RSLaRue), Monday, 7 August 2006 00:33 (nineteen years ago)

Yee-hah!

Urnst Kouch (Urnst Kouch), Monday, 7 August 2006 00:41 (nineteen years ago)

how i would rank the old hard rock albums i played this evening:

1. the godz - nothing is sacred LP
2. derringer - derringer live LP
3. billion dollar babies - battle axe LP
4. angel - white hot LP
5. aviary - aviary LP
6. bighorn - bighorn LP
7. rail - rail EP (really catchy the second time through)
8. janitors -thunderhead EP (just barely a keeper; the singer stinks.)
9. tom robinson band - trb two (this is amazingly pathetic. it's like he's inventing billy bragg or something. what the hell happened?)

xhuxk (xheddy), Monday, 7 August 2006 00:50 (nineteen years ago)

i told ya, TRB only had two good songs.

right now i'm listening to the excellent double album by Smoke Rise, *The Survival Of St.Joan*. It's a concept album about the life of Joan Of Arc. I dig it out about once a year. they could definitely rock. and they had awesome greasy rocker mirror shade looks. 1971. paramount records.

scott seward (scott seward), Monday, 7 August 2006 01:00 (nineteen years ago)

great cover:

http://www.popsike.com/php/detaildata.php?itemnr=2542997494


but the crazy gatefold and the back cover picture of the band with half-skull faces might even be better.

scott seward (scott seward), Monday, 7 August 2006 01:02 (nineteen years ago)

i told ya, TRB only had two good songs

Wrong, Scott! I'm listening to Power in the Darkness now, and it rocks! (Also, "2-4-6-8 Motorway" and "Grey Cortina", contrary to what you suggest above, are two different songs, not just one!) (Well, they sort of sound alike I guess, but that's okay.)

Weird, though, how on the first TRB album, the most famous and most of the best songs are on the "bonus EP." What was up with that? (They sorta debuted with an album and a half, like Rock City Angels.)

xhuxk (xheddy), Monday, 7 August 2006 01:10 (nineteen years ago)

isn't that true of sham 69 too? if the kids are united came on the bonus 12-inch.

scott seward (scott seward), Monday, 7 August 2006 01:13 (nineteen years ago)

i bought power in the darkness at a library sale at my town library when i was a kid. that sale changed my life. i got buzzcocks, teenage jesus and the jerks, tubeway army, vibrators, tons of cool stuff. i was probably 13. all the albums had been owned by a guy named jim stockman. he wrote his name on all of them. i owe that guy a lot.

scott seward (scott seward), Monday, 7 August 2006 01:17 (nineteen years ago)

Power in the Darkness would rank above the Godz LP on the list I posted a half hour ago, I think. I honestly forgot how great this album is. Huge difference between their debut & followup.

xhuxk (xheddy), Monday, 7 August 2006 01:24 (nineteen years ago)

now i am listening to The McCoys and their Human Ball album. Heavy bluesrock action on display. this was their attempt to distance themselves from sloopy and all things sloopy-related.

scott seward (scott seward), Monday, 7 August 2006 01:37 (nineteen years ago)

two weeks pass...
So how well did that work out, Scott? Seems like I read that the Jokers, mentioned in "Rock 'N Roll Hootchie-Koo," were an Ohio band that incl. Dickey Betts, anybody ever heard 'em? The X piece turned out considerably shorter than I was originally told it would be, so recent projects are folded into the last graf, and I dunno what "wailing in harmony" means; it was writ as " wailing, shifting from harmony to unison, back and forth." And a few other things, but basically, I hope it still conveys why anyone might want or have wanted to delve (the music, not the Behind The Music)(written while remembering how Riegel's Love piece in Voice, several years ago, was the only thing I'd read in decades that indicated why the *music* was worth checking out): http://charlotte.creativeloafing.com/gyrobase/context?oid=oid:66634

don (dow), Friday, 25 August 2006 03:05 (nineteen years ago)


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