Kill Your Idols movie: anyone seen it? I did, and it sucks

Sure: Some Kind Of Monster.

There was definitely a tangible excitement in NYC around that time, trust me, the years just before were relatively dull. The Strokes got big (hype) in the UK, every band in america moved here except the 6 that moved to San Francisco and everyone was waiting to see who'd be next. And nobody, I mean nobody, thought it'd be Interpol. It's no suprise that everyone was working every possible connection. But I won't comment any more on the movie, again, as I haven't seen it.

Is Ut in it?

I'll probably see it anyway.

Depressingly idiotic.

The film did re-affirm my undying love for Lydia Lunch's unrelentingly fierce outlook on life.

She's going after that half-Korean valley girl market. That's a good market.

Watched this again recently. Dire. And to think how much better it should've been!

By the way, fuck the Liars.

dude the liars are gods compared to that coked up douche in A.R.E. Weapons. god remember them?

yeah anyway outside of some rad vintage footage this was such a fucking bad documentary...unreal how bad it was and even more LOL now in 2009 when they are trying to manufacture some imaginary "scene" that includes somehow gogol bordello AND black dice lol

actually at least the liars and black dice have at least a tenuous connection to the no wave stuff.

and even the old stuff was done pretty poorly and really cliched.

they really could have talked to more people.

it's like they complain that No New York distorted ppl's view of No Wave, boiling it down to a handful of bands, then they do the same thing

One big gripe I have with it, is that the musical connections (between then and "now") seemed pretty tenuous, and they devoted more time to exposing the Yeah Yeah Yeah's girl's vacuity than presenting the music, especially the old stuff. I don't think any of the vintage clips were over a minute and a half. Apparently, they were using crappy third/fourth-generation footage, and didn't bother making the effort to get anything closer to the original.

I have to be honest and say that the obvious device of cutting together Yeah Yeah Yeah's girl's vacuity and old people bitterness works pretty well. I remember a similar critique leveled at that King of Kong documentary, how it made Billy Mitchell more of a jerk purely for hacky dramatic purposes, but I didn't mind it at all.

It certainly didn't do YYY girl any favors in terms of intelligence or articulateness, as compared to Lydia Lunch and Glenn Branca. Most of the new generation came across as dumb-asses.

how it made Billy Mitchell more of a jerk purely for hacky dramatic purposes

as someone who has met billy, i suspect that movie was edited just fine.

ha! is there a story here?...

we were both making appearances at this video game thing in the mall of america, i didn't like hang out w/him for a long period of time but anyway put it this way, the way he came off in the movie was very much how he came off IRL (and i had met him years before king of kong)....(and yes he was wearing The USA Tie and a denim shirt)

anyone with similar story re: karen O?

lol not me

I met one guy that was part of the current "scene" they were trying to construct that was kinda douchey, but he wasn't in the film.

the guy from ARE weapons was mindblowing in that dept

god i love him

definitely -- it just exacerbated what I felt was the incoherence of the movie. It doesn't make a very good case for musical similarity; it doesn't make a good case for similarity of sensibility/personalities; it doesn't bring in any outside evidence of a comparison. To me, it was like 1/3 entertaining rants from Glenn and Lydia with not enough No Wave music footage, and the rest was a bunch of inarticulate idiots and their slightly less idiotic music.

the part where he goes off on this tirade about people like ESG was priceless

Glenn Branca was pretty awesome, too. It made me want to be his drinking buddy.

if i saw this movie again i'd probably only watch the ARE parts, maybe a few of the less whiny old people

The "whiny old people" were the best part as far as I'm concerned ...

who's the scene douche?

he has a solo project called S0ft C1rcle. Honestly, I was only in his presence for one evening ... I got a douchey impression from him, but it could have been totally circumstantial.

lee renaldo always seems like a very nice guy

circumstantial douchieness!

xp Yeah ... he and Arto Lindsay came across as good guys, as did Thurston Moore, who seemed like the Ron Howard of No Wave.

gira and branca seem like they would be hard to hang out with. lydia seems like she has never stopped talking once for like 25 years.

my favorite part was when lydia was going on and on about how "we all played music not because we wanted to because we HAD to...we had to exorcise this filth in our souls, this pain and torture" blah blah blah

and then cut to arto lindsay saying in a very nerdy and sincere way "well i thought i could sort of distill rock to its very base elements...i thought we could be unique and the more unique we were the faster we would be rich and famous" like it was a science project to him

lydia seems like she has never stopped talking once for like 25 years.

serious lol.

Upcoming Teenage Jesus & the Jerks dates

Oct 2 2009 8:00P Le National (Pop Montreal Festival) Montreal, Quebec
Oct 3 2009 8:00P Music Hall of Williamsburg Brooklyn, New York
Oct 5 2009 8:00P The Empty Bottle Chicago, Illinois
Oct 7 2009 8:00P The El Rey Theater Los Angeles, California
Oct 8 2009 8:00P Slim’s San Francisco, California
Oct 10 2009 8:00P Showbox Lounge @ Pike Place Seattle, Washington

Anyone else going or have seen them recently?

Wha? Really? More?

do they have a habit of saying "last ever shows"? These are being promoted as such to some extent.

no sightings in this? i did not see all of it though.

in the movie? No.

lydia seems like she has never stopped talking once for like 25 years.

serious lol.

― free jazz and mumia (sarahel), Monday, 24 August 2009 21:03 (1 month ago)

I think I laughed at this for the wrong reason.

because i posted it?

No, the comment you're laughing at. Because I thought of a notable moment on record when Lydia Lunch stopped talking.

ha! My friend who wrote a fan letter to her when he was 15 is in one of the bands opening the SF show next week, which I think is totally cute and awesome.

this is fucking terrible, and everyone in this is annoying as fuck

this is one of my most favorite thread titles

I still regret not talking to lydia lunch that time I saw her sitting by herself and looking a little forlorn at a butthole surfers show in 88

i met her and talked to her a few months ago - she did most of the talking.

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