Syd Barrett RIP

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Apparently.

― Hello Sunshine (Hello Sunshine), Tuesday, 11 July 2006 12:01 (nineteen years ago)

fuck off

― [URL]Internet casino gambling online[/URL] (eman), Tuesday, 11 July 2006 12:04 (nineteen years ago)

There are rumours, but nothing yet confirmed.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 11 July 2006 12:09 (nineteen years ago)

http://arts.guardian.co.uk/news/obituary/0,,1817952,00.html

RIP Syd, 1967 would not have been the same without you.

― myopic_void (myopic_void), Tuesday, 11 July 2006 12:18 (nineteen years ago)

― steal compass, drive north, disappear (tissp), Tuesday, 11 July 2006 12:20 (nineteen years ago)

Surinder Kaur and Don Lusher also both gone, I see... :-(

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 11 July 2006 12:23 (nineteen years ago)

ah, jeez. i had "the madcap laughs" in high school, as part of my total immersion into "good music" thanks to my boss at the record store. still dig it out every once in a while and enjoy very much listening to it. a say day.

― Emily B (Emily B), Tuesday, 11 July 2006 12:23 (nineteen years ago)

Casketful of Secrets

― 100% CHAMPS with a Yes! Attitude. (Austin, Still), Tuesday, 11 July 2006 12:23 (nineteen years ago)

RIP.sad news.

― emekars (emekars), Tuesday, 11 July 2006 12:23 (nineteen years ago)

― beanz (beanz), Tuesday, 11 July 2006 12:24 (nineteen years ago)

Ah well, cue endless plays for "Shine on you crazy diamond" ..

Me, I'll cue up "Love You" and dig the time sigs.

― mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 11 July 2006 12:26 (nineteen years ago)

He seemed like a ghost even at the time of The Madcap Laughs.

I will listen to his music tonight with a glass of port, and drink to his memory.

Piper At The Gates Of Dawn was in most ways the beginning of my "time."

RIP.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 11 July 2006 12:28 (nineteen years ago)

I too will raise a glass. Wayward genius with his words and his gentle delivery. RIP Syd.

― Daniel Giraffe (Daniel Giraffe), Tuesday, 11 July 2006 12:32 (nineteen years ago)

OK, Mods?

Could we rename this thread to "Syd Barrett RIP"?

― mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 11 July 2006 12:38 (nineteen years ago)

He had a real talent. The rest of the story is ephemera. RIP.

― Toad Roundgrin (noodle vague), Tuesday, 11 July 2006 12:39 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.nme.com/news/pink-floyd/23570

Early version...

― mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 11 July 2006 12:39 (nineteen years ago)

What a sad, brilliant life. RIP...

― Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Tuesday, 11 July 2006 12:41 (nineteen years ago)

:( I was just listening to Syd at the weekend. RIP.

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Tuesday, 11 July 2006 12:42 (nineteen years ago)

I renamed it, don't see why it was necessary but there you go.

Anyway, RIP - a very sad story IMO.

― Tom (Groke), Tuesday, 11 July 2006 12:42 (nineteen years ago)

I have a huge Syd Barrett poster above my computer. Its quite upsetting to see his pic as a young healthy man just staring down at me.

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Tuesday, 11 July 2006 12:44 (nineteen years ago)

His songs have meant so much to me for so many years. Very sad today.

― J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Tuesday, 11 July 2006 12:45 (nineteen years ago)

I am going to have candy and a currant bun in his honour.

I liked Syd. This seeems much sadder than your average rock star death.

― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Tuesday, 11 July 2006 12:46 (nineteen years ago)

I feel uncomfortably numb.

― The Velvet Overlord (The Velvet Overlord), Tuesday, 11 July 2006 12:47 (nineteen years ago)

i don't know what to say other than this is incredibly sad and will probably fuck up the rest of the day for alot of people i know.

RIP.

― GOD PUNCH TO HAWKWIND (yournullfame), Tuesday, 11 July 2006 12:52 (nineteen years ago)

yikes, so out of the blue. how sad. i loved him and his voice and songs since i was a kid. i'll listen to him as long as i live. 99.99% of all people who think they know what he or his life was like should probably shut up about it. cuz they don't know nothin'.

― scott seward (scott seward), Tuesday, 11 July 2006 12:54 (nineteen years ago)

goodbye syd you were really something :-(((

― Ward Fowler (Ward Fowler), Tuesday, 11 July 2006 12:56 (nineteen years ago)

With Scott's point in mind, about the only thing I can add is that it seems my wish for him on this board a while back came true -- that whenever his inevitable time came, he would pass quietly and peacefully at home surrounded by his loved ones, with the outside world far away and not prying at him. More should be so lucky, and in his case, it was no less than he deserved. RIP.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 11 July 2006 12:56 (nineteen years ago)

This is really fucking me up. God damn it God damn it God damn it.

― J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Tuesday, 11 July 2006 12:57 (nineteen years ago)

:( RIP

― Raw Patrick (Raw Patrick), Tuesday, 11 July 2006 13:02 (nineteen years ago)

Ned OTM. Seems he's more famous as a demented recluse than as an artist. Maybe now people will leave him alone.

― DAVE's secret to fortu-Oh look! Shiny! (dave225.3), Tuesday, 11 July 2006 13:04 (nineteen years ago)

my friend/colleague had told me, last week or so, that he was surprised to hear that syd was still alive and had just assumed he wasn't

RIP

― RJG (RJG), Tuesday, 11 July 2006 13:05 (nineteen years ago)

The first two Floyd LPs and Relics were v.important to me from 76-80 as a reminder that there were cool ways to express yourself before J. Rotten swept us up. I was pleased to recognize that it was important to bands like the Soft Boys, TV Personalities and Swell Maps too. I've always loved that posh English tab-of-acid and a cup-of-tea English psych thing, I guess Syd-era Floyd was my first exposure to it. RIP, Syd.

― Dr.C (Dr.C), Tuesday, 11 July 2006 13:06 (nineteen years ago)

my favorite...what more can I say.

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Tuesday, 11 July 2006 13:08 (nineteen years ago)

RIP Syd

― willem -- (willem), Tuesday, 11 July 2006 13:09 (nineteen years ago)

this is really upsetting to me. and of course i have a strong need to hear the madcap laughs now, but i can't until i get home from work. r.i.p., syd.

― spastic heritage (spastic heritage), Tuesday, 11 July 2006 13:10 (nineteen years ago)

Mr Ragett so OTM per normal. This is turning into a shit year for music eccentrics.

Christ, Syd, I wanted you to outlast all of them.

"Won't you miss me, wouldn't you miss me at all?" RIP and thanks for everything.

― Guilty Boksen (Bro_Danielson), Tuesday, 11 July 2006 13:12 (nineteen years ago)

balls

well...thats just no news i care to hear...

― bb (bbrz), Tuesday, 11 July 2006 13:13 (nineteen years ago)

such a talent and such a troubled life. in this case rest in peace doesn't feel like the usual reflexive cliche. RIP.

― m coleman (lovebug starski), Tuesday, 11 July 2006 13:16 (nineteen years ago)

The guy's music - his unconventional melodies, beautiful singing voice & charming lyrics - meant shitloads to me ever since I was a pretty young kid. Not what I wanted to hear at all.

― Pashmina (Pashmina), Tuesday, 11 July 2006 13:25 (nineteen years ago)

i'm sure he doesn't worry about it anymore. RIP

― rizzx (Rizz), Tuesday, 11 July 2006 13:25 (nineteen years ago)

This is surreal and overwhelmingly sad.

I never pondered the man's mortality, but I've spent decades listening to his music and living in his sound and word world. One of my all-time favorites, and I've always been so grateful for the handful of songs he gave us.

Wish You Were (Still)Here, Syd.

― Brooker Buckingham (Brooker B), Tuesday, 11 July 2006 13:25 (nineteen years ago)

He was a true original. RIP.

― kornrulez6969 (TCBeing), Tuesday, 11 July 2006 13:27 (nineteen years ago)

Dear Syd,

I really love you, and I mean you. RIP.

― LC (Damian), Tuesday, 11 July 2006 13:32 (nineteen years ago)

I hope he found some sort of peace away from the public gaze. RIP indeed.

― Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Tuesday, 11 July 2006 13:39 (nineteen years ago)

RIP SYD!

― hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 11 July 2006 13:40 (nineteen years ago)

"Jiving on down to the beach
to see the blue and the gray
seems to be all and it's rosy-it's a beautiful day!"

Remember that he'd probably want us to be singing. RIP.

― trees (treesessplode), Tuesday, 11 July 2006 13:46 (nineteen years ago)

― js (honestengine), Tuesday, 11 July 2006 13:50 (nineteen years ago)

Ivor, Syd, who's next? Roky? Jandek? Daniel Johnston?

― Edward III (edward iii), Tuesday, 11 July 2006 13:53 (nineteen years ago)

dude, not cool.

― hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 11 July 2006 13:55 (nineteen years ago)

SET THE CONTROLS FOR THE HEART OF HEAVEN :(

― choinklate (nickalicious), Tuesday, 11 July 2006 14:07 (nineteen years ago)

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SYD FAKED HIS DEATH AND IN SIX MONTHS TIME WILL BE HANGING OUT IN BRAZIL WITH KEN LAY!

Discuss.

― mark 0 (mark 0), Wednesday, 19 July 2006 09:13 (nineteen years ago)

>There's more than three chords in "Dark Globe" tho, there's definitely a 7th in there somewhere<

Well, I, IV, and V chords, right? If there's a V7, you could say it's just a variant of the V chord. "If It's in You" has these chords, too.

― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Wednesday, 19 July 2006 16:29 (nineteen years ago)

8. Bruno or Anton from the Homosexuals
9. Hans Keller

― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Wednesday, 19 July 2006 19:14 (nineteen years ago)

10. Richie Manic

― richard wood johnson (rwj), Wednesday, 19 July 2006 20:18 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, re: the NME tribute:

My favorite bit: where they reprint the original NME review which states that Syd wrote all the tracks but two, one a co-write with all the band, and one a "cover of Muddy Waters' "Take up thy stethoscope and walk"..."

I'm sure Roger's still sulking about that one.

― mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 20 July 2006 08:11 (nineteen years ago)

11 dave brock
12 nik turner
13 twink

― Pashmina (Pashmina), Thursday, 20 July 2006 08:43 (nineteen years ago)

14. Muddy Waters

xpost

― mark 0 (mark 0), Thursday, 20 July 2006 08:51 (nineteen years ago)

noise means a lot of things to a lot of people, but when Cutler describes something as 'Noise' and then immediately brings up AMM, you can kind of get the picture of just how extreme some of those live shows probably were

-- milton parker (milton.parke...) (webmail), July 14th, 2006 5:12 AM.

You know, listening to The Piper at the Gates of Dawn again, I take back what I said about Cutler overdramatizing. It's remarkable how extreme the performances on the RECORDS were.

― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Tuesday, 25 July 2006 04:35 (nineteen years ago)

been listening to the 'Have You Got It Yet' set...pretty outstanding stuff there. esp. the early PF singles...
too bad that they never quite got that 'hipness' back, just made the over-blownly huge albums a bit later.
over-all, a pretty solid set.

― edde (edde), Tuesday, 25 July 2006 13:36 (nineteen years ago)

FWIW, I understood where Syd Barrett was coming from
a LOT more when I got into Bob Dylan. Dylan's imagery
is, in many cases, just as strange and surreal as Syd's,
and he was as major influence.

PS. I can't believe Dave and Rog decided to go with that
particular take of "Dark Globe" on _Madcap_. It seems
almost deliberately cruel.

― Squirrel_Police (Squirrel_Police), Tuesday, 25 July 2006 23:43 (nineteen years ago)

do you post on ilm from a gameboy?

― Lmaoborghini (eman), Wednesday, 26 July 2006 00:44 (nineteen years ago)

New Issue of Mojo

http://www.mojo4music.com/newissue/

http://images.q4music.com/design/mojo/images/issues/big-issue.jpg

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Saturday, 29 July 2006 11:38 (nineteen years ago)

The photo, layout and headline ("Farewell you crazy diamond") are not the work of human hands. (And by "human" I mean a person we might recognize, like Syd Barrett.) They were clearly executed by robots connected to a weather computer rejigged to answer, with tedious exactitude, the spiritual needs of UK boomer consumers.

― Momus (Momus), Saturday, 29 July 2006 13:34 (nineteen years ago)

Rumor of Pink Floyd tribute gig:

http://www.contactmusic.com/news.nsf/article/barrett%20tribute%20gig_1003914

― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Sunday, 30 July 2006 00:38 (nineteen years ago)

they should only do that if they play Piper in it's entirety

― kyle (akmonday), Sunday, 30 July 2006 01:14 (nineteen years ago)

w/encore: Arnold, Candy, Emily, Apples, Vegetable, Scream.
No '70s hits.
They'll probably just do the regular set with extra Syd songs, we'll see.

― Marmot 4-Tay: I'll sip from his well without hesitation. (marmotwolof), Sunday, 30 July 2006 01:31 (nineteen years ago)

you forgot Jugband Blues...

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Sunday, 30 July 2006 04:17 (nineteen years ago)

So I did. Probably should play that one last.

― Marmot 4-Tay: I'll sip from his well without hesitation. (marmotwolof), Sunday, 30 July 2006 04:50 (nineteen years ago)

"Reaction in G"!!!

― Stormy Davis (diamond), Sunday, 30 July 2006 04:53 (nineteen years ago)

if this actually goes down I'd probably be willing to fly anywhere and pay almost any price to attend..

― Stormy Davis (diamond), Sunday, 30 July 2006 04:53 (nineteen years ago)

Bob Dylan may have been an influence on Barrett, but Barrett also had the temerity to kill his own idols,like when he mocks Dylan in the song Bob Dylan Blues. There is something to be said about having the nerve (and thoughtfulness) to speak irreverently about your own dead or dying icons - especially relevant to this particular thread.

Apparently he became desillusioned with Dylan after seeing him at one of his shows. He perceived him as a kind of sellout caricature of himself. He went back home and wrote that song. I can understand anticlimax over Bob Dylan, I felt that way after viewing the documentary: Don't Look Back.

If i hear shine on you crazy diamond one more time i am going to laugh, but maybe Syd had no problem with caricaturalizing himself as the archetypal madman, after all he named his own solo effort Madcap Laughs. Or was that supposed to be self-satire? Does it make a difference to the audience?

Squirrel Police, what problem do you have with Dark Globe on Mad Cap Laughs, why do you find it cruel, do you think it is too raw and revelatory of Barrett's breakdowns? The Opel version is even more so!

P.S. Can someone tell me if it's possible to edit one's own post after posting it?

― no_mirror (no_mirror), Monday, 31 July 2006 08:34 (nineteen years ago)

I rememebered the other day when the Jesus and Mary Chain were allowed to set their own music quiz in the NME or MM or something and one of the questions was: "Which boring bastard replaced Syd Barrett in Pink Floyd?"

I thought it was funny.

I have not read this thread so forgive me if I am repeating.

― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Monday, 31 July 2006 08:42 (nineteen years ago)

I remember the Mary Chain moaning that every time they played Glasgow there was always some drunken arsehole shouting for Vegetable Man between songs. So the next time the came to Glasgow I got drunk and was that arsehole.

They didn't play it :(

― Onimo (GerryNemo), Monday, 31 July 2006 09:38 (nineteen years ago)

I wouldn't worry, Onimo - it was never as good as the Floyd version anyway.

― Guilty Boksen (Bro_Danielson), Monday, 31 July 2006 10:23 (nineteen years ago)

Aye, and at least nice men like you play it when drunken arseholes request it in your house :-)

― Onimo (GerryNemo), Monday, 31 July 2006 10:32 (nineteen years ago)

I think I remember that drunken arsehole, but I might be embellishing things.

― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Monday, 31 July 2006 11:53 (nineteen years ago)

See if this helps:

VEGETABLE FUCKIN MAAAAAANN!!!

― Onimo (GerryNemo), Monday, 31 July 2006 12:03 (nineteen years ago)

More word from sister Rosemary:

http://www.cambridge-news.co.uk/news/city/2006/08/02/a86de92f-fef2-4ea1-9e27-c3868ad175fb.lpf

― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Saturday, 5 August 2006 01:35 (nineteen years ago)

Haha, the Madcap! From here: http://www.pink-floyd.org/barrett/TimLastSyd.html

One bit of unpublished news. Not Syd's last words - but still, some very interesting ones. When he was at home, in the last week of his life, his sister asked him what he thought about God and the after-life. "Do you know," Syd replied, "it never occurred to me."

― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Saturday, 5 August 2006 17:26 (nineteen years ago)

two weeks pass...

Auction to be held in November:

http://uk.news.launch.yahoo.com/dyna/article.html?a=/060822/340/gk3ju.html&e=l_news_dm

― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Wednesday, 23 August 2006 06:38 (nineteen years ago)

The bike!

― mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 23 August 2006 07:51 (nineteen years ago)

... and the yellow shoes, the blue velvet trousers, the paisley shirt, the turquoise waistcoat... the blue velvet trousers might have to go to the cleaners first, there's a kind of a stink about blue velvet trousers y'see

― dud Hab 'C' dEva (Dada), Wednesday, 23 August 2006 07:55 (nineteen years ago)

The bike has been withdrawn : There was some dispute about ownership.

― mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 23 August 2006 07:58 (nineteen years ago)

i'd take a painting!

― edde (edde), Wednesday, 23 August 2006 16:11 (nineteen years ago)

The bike has been withdrawn : There was some dispute about ownership.

he borrowed it.

― richard wood johnson (rwj), Thursday, 24 August 2006 03:01 (nineteen years ago)

four weeks pass...

hello,

this is in response to what Momus was getting out of Syd Barrett's silence and seclusion:

SUSAN SONTAG:

But the choice of permanent silence doesn’t negate their work. On the contrary, it imparts retroactively an added power and authority to what was broken off; disavowal of the work becoming a new source of its validity, a certificate of unchallengeable seriousness. That seriousness consists in not regarding art… as something whose seriousness lasts forever, an “end,” a permanent vehicle for spiritual ambition. The truly serious attitude is one that regards art as a “means” to something that can perhaps be achieved only by abandoning art; judged more impatiently, art is a false way or (the word of the Dada artist Jacques Vaché) a stupidity.

Though no longer a confession, art is more than ever a deliverance, an exercise in asceticism. Through it, the artist becomes purified — of himself and, eventually, of his art, The artist (if not art itself) is still engaged in a progress toward “the good.” But formerly, the artist’s good was mastery of and fulfillment in his art. Now it’s suggested that the highest good for the artist is to reach that point where those goals of excellence become insignificant to him, emotionally and ethically, and he is more satisfied by being silent than by finding a voice in art…

So far as he is serious, the artist is continually tempted to sever the dialogue he has with an audience. Silence is the furthest extension of that reluctance to communicate, that ambivalence about making contact with the audience which is a leading motif of modern art, with its tireless commitment to the “new” and/or the “esoteric” Silence is the artist’s ultimate other-worldly gesture; by silence, he frees himself from servile bondage to the world, which appears as patron, client, audience, antagonist, arbiter, and distorter of his work.

from:

http://www.popmatters.com/pm/blogs/crazedbythemusic_post/syd-barrett-silence-and-fan-contracts/

― no_mirror (no_mirror), Friday, 22 September 2006 17:51 (nineteen years ago)

five years pass...

man this is expensive but it looks AMAZING.

http://barrettbook.com/

― pathos of the unwarranted encore (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Wednesday, 28 September 2011 01:43 (fourteen years ago)

oh wow

― Trip Maker, Wednesday, 28 September 2011 02:20 (fourteen years ago)

why did they think it was necessary to charge three hundred quid for the "special" version?

― Mr. Snrub, Wednesday, 28 September 2011 02:43 (fourteen years ago)

four years pass...

Ten years ago. RIP Syd.

― timellison, Thursday, 7 July 2016 19:17 (nine years ago)

http://www.sydarthurfestival.com/july-7th-2006-death-of-syd-barrett

― jaywbabcock, Thursday, 7 July 2016 20:54 (nine years ago)

Is that meant to be a pun on 'siddhartha'?

― Mark G, Friday, 8 July 2016 05:55 (nine years ago)

What else?

― Hare in the Gated Snare (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 8 July 2016 06:04 (nine years ago)

Dunno, it took a while for me, it could have been a coincidental.

― Mark G, Friday, 8 July 2016 06:13 (nine years ago)

Syd Barrett / Arthur Lee

― They could have been Stackridge. (Tom D.), Friday, 8 July 2016 10:05 (nine years ago)

Quite.

― Mark G, Friday, 8 July 2016 10:08 (nine years ago)

Some nice punning going on there. Has everybody heard these interviews with Syd from Aug. 1967? Syd and interviewer both sound out of their gourds but, Jesus, the interviewer, what a dick: Part 1 and Part 2.

― They could have been Stackridge. (Tom D.), Friday, 8 July 2016 10:47 (nine years ago)

seven years pass...

Saw the new documentary last night:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FtR19VBThkA

I'm on the outside here, but I thought it was okay--a bigger fan might feel more strongly in either direction. Wished they'd used the Television Personalities song towards the end (I left immediately, so maybe it turned up later in the end credits). Was able to order both his albums for around $30 from Amazon when I got home.

― clemenza, Sunday, 13 August 2023 15:20 (two years ago)

I’m kind of interested in this but there are roughly 15,000 documentaries about Syd currently available on YT, including hour-plus long unedited interviews with each of the other four Floyd members. Having just gone through a p big early Floyd thing, I def. came away thinking that his is not a legacy that has gone unexplored these last 15-20 years.

― Naive Teen Idol, Monday, 14 August 2023 20:39 (two years ago)

Didn't know that. You'll probably want to skip this--doubt there's anything new in there for you. (They also haul in this hokey framing device.)

― clemenza, Monday, 14 August 2023 21:19 (two years ago)

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