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Is Emo similar to punk in that it is all about the attitude and the clothing?
It seems that the music itself sounds like slightly updated Bob Jovi Pop-rock--only the singers pretend to be depressed because it's trendy and it makes teenage girls think they are sensative.
I swear if I hear one more kid sulking "Moooooooom, how can I be happy if no one thinks I'm depressed?!?" because mommy wont buy then black clothing, I'm gonna pas gas in a crowded elevator...

― Paul Edward Wagemann (PaulEdwardWagemann), Saturday, 15 July 2006 00:07 (eighteen years ago)

paul edward wagemann

― cutty (mcutt), Saturday, 15 July 2006 00:16 (eighteen years ago)

pew

― mookieproof (mookieproof), Saturday, 15 July 2006 00:16 (eighteen years ago)

southern New Jersey

― less-than three's Christiane F. (drowned in milk), Saturday, 15 July 2006 00:17 (eighteen years ago)

can someone explain 'paul edward wagemann' to me?

― cutty (mcutt), Saturday, 15 July 2006 00:17 (eighteen years ago)

he's just a man, with a man's courage

― mookieproof (mookieproof), Saturday, 15 July 2006 00:19 (eighteen years ago)

If anyone is interested in addressing the question, here is some research material:

http://www.fourfa.com/

― Paul Edward Wagemann (PaulEdwardWagemann), Saturday, 15 July 2006 00:44 (eighteen years ago)

Here's another article:
http://entertainment.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,14932-2257342.html

― Paul Edward Wagemann (PaulEdwardWagemann), Saturday, 15 July 2006 00:46 (eighteen years ago)

oh, paul edward wagemann

― cutty (mcutt), Saturday, 15 July 2006 01:18 (eighteen years ago)

Can someone explain 'Emo' to me?

Worst troll this week.

― Shoes say, yeah, no hands clap your good bra. (goodbra), Saturday, 15 July 2006 01:23 (eighteen years ago)

Being emo is like being gay, except you don't have sex with anyone.

― edward o (edwardo), Saturday, 15 July 2006 01:25 (eighteen years ago)

if sex is where babies come from, emo is where crybabies come from.

― ornaldo latebloomer (latebloomer), Saturday, 15 July 2006 02:03 (eighteen years ago)

The reason emo has an association with punk is because it grew out of that movement at least emotional hardcore did which is different from bands these days that are labelled. For true honesty and passion see Rites of Spring.

― jazzrule (jazzrule), Saturday, 15 July 2006 02:08 (eighteen years ago)

keyboard player for roxy music, "inventor" of ambient music according to some, music theorist.

― s1ocki (slutsky), Saturday, 15 July 2006 02:09 (eighteen years ago)

I guess what my question really is, in Twenty years from now will people be looking back at 'emo' as the 2006 equivilent to Postpunk or the 2006 equivilent to yacht rock

― Paul Edward Wagemann (PaulEdwardWagemann), Saturday, 15 July 2006 02:20 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.emophilips.com/content/emo_images/emo_philips_schmuck.jpg

― timmy tannin (pompous), Saturday, 15 July 2006 02:26 (eighteen years ago)

Hey look, we already did this:

what is emo?

― Marmot 4-Tay: what those guyz make music 4. (marmotwolof), Saturday, 15 July 2006 02:38 (eighteen years ago)

Also:

Indie kids hate emo kids, right?

― Marmot 4-Tay: what those guyz make music 4. (marmotwolof), Saturday, 15 July 2006 02:40 (eighteen years ago)

no one cares about fucking emo on this message board

― cutty (mcutt), Saturday, 15 July 2006 02:42 (eighteen years ago)

Emo, no. Emo Philips, yes.

P.E.W., maybe do some more reading and posting and before you do more thread creating, hmm?
Most any kind of "explain [genre]" thread can already be found in the archives.

― Marmot 4-Tay: what those guyz make music 4. (marmotwolof), Saturday, 15 July 2006 02:48 (eighteen years ago)

I don't really think anyone would care for fucking emo.

― less-than three's Christiane F. (drowned in milk), Saturday, 15 July 2006 02:50 (eighteen years ago)

Judy Tenuta did, at one point.

― Marmot 4-Tay: what those guyz make music 4. (marmotwolof), Saturday, 15 July 2006 02:52 (eighteen years ago)

Oh my lord, where's the perfect Corky St. Clair screencap when you need it.

― less-than three's Christiane F. (drowned in milk), Saturday, 15 July 2006 03:02 (eighteen years ago)

I accidentally joined an emo band and went to practise tonight

― ornaldo latebloomer (latebloomer), Saturday, 15 July 2006 03:09 (eighteen years ago)

I DID read the thread on emo and I still dont understand it...

― Paul Edward Wagemann (PaulEdwardWagemann), Saturday, 15 July 2006 03:11 (eighteen years ago)

emo-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o
come on and dance
come on and dance

― mookieproof (mookieproof), Saturday, 15 July 2006 03:27 (eighteen years ago)

It's very easy. When you you read something written by a music critic, and you you don't understand a word, simply ignore it. It's a made-up word by the critic trying to fake his/her way through.

― nicky lo-fi (nicky lo-fi), Saturday, 15 July 2006 03:34 (eighteen years ago)

I DID read the thread on emo and I still dont understand it...

Then you revive it and ask for some elucidation rather than starting A WHOLE 'NOTHER FUCKING POINTLESS EMO THREAD.
;-D

― Marmot 4-Tay: what those guyz make music 4. (marmotwolof), Saturday, 15 July 2006 05:59 (eighteen years ago)

there are two types of emo. old emo which is rites of spring, embrace, etc. that is essential old style hardcore but with emotional lyrics and more melodic guitar parts and then there is new emo which is kids in sweaters whining over open chords. any further explanation needed then let me know.

― Pop Ryan (Rebelwordsmith), Saturday, 15 July 2006 06:12 (eighteen years ago)

Embrace?!?!

― Si.C@rter (SiC@rter), Saturday, 15 July 2006 11:20 (eighteen years ago)

Oh, THAT Embrace. As you were.

― Si.C@rter (SiC@rter), Saturday, 15 July 2006 11:25 (eighteen years ago)

old style hardcore with emotional lyrics...What do you mean by 'emotional lyrics'?
Are the lyrics emotionally charged or is the way the singer sings them emotional--or both?

― Paul Edward Wagemann (PaulEdwardWagemann), Saturday, 15 July 2006 13:49 (eighteen years ago)

and can some explain the term pwns? As in, "he totaly pwned him". American sayings !

― Angharienne Bradshaw (Angharienne Bradshaw), Saturday, 15 July 2006 14:16 (eighteen years ago)

Yeah I'd like to know that too!

― More Tongue Feldman (noodle vague), Saturday, 15 July 2006 14:19 (eighteen years ago)

Basically, we hate you all and wish everyone everywhere drowned in rotten suet.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 15 July 2006 14:21 (eighteen years ago)

Can someone explain to me the meaning of life?

― Arthur Dent (Arthur Dent), Saturday, 15 July 2006 14:32 (eighteen years ago)

And what's all this so-called Jazz i been hearing about?

― More Tongue Feldman (noodle vague), Saturday, 15 July 2006 14:33 (eighteen years ago)

Jazz was created by gnomes in Zurich as accompaniment to their clog folk dances.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 15 July 2006 14:34 (eighteen years ago)

Thank you. Now how do I shot penis?

― More Tongue Feldman (noodle vague), Saturday, 15 July 2006 14:35 (eighteen years ago)

I'm honestly trying to get a handle on this whole 'Emo' thing, and 'm getting no where. Has our culture become so saturated that it is impossible for the creation of any kind of 'original' movement? Hippies counter-culture and punk rock seemed to have at least SOME substance...But Goth or Emo or hipster/yupster culture seems pretty vacant...

― Paul Edward Wagemann (PaulEdwardWagemann), Saturday, 15 July 2006 14:35 (eighteen years ago)

Oh,penispaws.

― Arthur Dent (Arthur Dent), Saturday, 15 July 2006 14:36 (eighteen years ago)

I'm honestly trying to get a handle on this whole 'Penis' thing.

― More Tongue Feldman (noodle vague), Saturday, 15 July 2006 14:37 (eighteen years ago)

Shaft, Shaft is the man. John Shaft.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 15 July 2006 14:39 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.stomptokyo.com/badmoviereport/pics/H/ht8.jpg

― More Tongue Feldman (noodle vague), Saturday, 15 July 2006 14:40 (eighteen years ago)

paul: it's both, the lyrics are more emotional and the actual singing is more emotional and less screamy in the old style. the OG emo.

― Pop Ryan (Rebelwordsmith), Saturday, 15 July 2006 16:27 (eighteen years ago)

paul: unfortunately what has come to be known as emo will probably be the more remembered style and it's pretty bad so i won't be remembered fondly. however the original style of emo a la embrace and rites of spring is already remembered fondly and is sometimes lumped into Post Hardcore a la Nation of of Ulysses because of the negative connotation of emo today.

― Pop Ryan (Rebelwordsmith), Saturday, 15 July 2006 16:30 (eighteen years ago)

Dolemote is mostly remembered as being a baaaaaad motherfucker.

― More Tongue Feldman (noodle vague), Saturday, 15 July 2006 16:33 (eighteen years ago)

I find it pretty incredible that someone could not see a connection between MCR/Fall Out Boy/Panic!/30 Seconds/etc and the melodic end of the 'good' emo of the 90s. Stop/start rhythms, droney guitars, screamed choruses, wordy lyrics, etc. What's missing? I said it before but if a lot of these songs came out on a Kerosene 454 7" ten years ago, they would have been the toast of zinetown.

― Sundar (sundar), Saturday, 15 July 2006 16:44 (eighteen years ago)

Sundar: what bands do you consider the melodic end of the "good" emo of the 90s? Because Embrace and Rites of Spring were mid 80s to very early 90s. Are you talking about Sunny Day Real Estate or those bands that link up more easily with MCR/Fall Out Boy, etc? Because that makes more sense than linking those pop emo bands with the earliest forms of emo.

― Pop Ryan (Rebelwordsmith), Saturday, 15 July 2006 17:18 (eighteen years ago)

Are you talking about Sunny Day Real Estate or those bands that link up more easily with MCR/Fall Out Boy, etc?

Yes.

― Sundar (sundar), Saturday, 15 July 2006 17:23 (eighteen years ago)

Skipping 12 messages at this point... Click here if you want to load them all.
So when did this term emo first start being used?
Why not let these shitty bands out today just have that label, and then you can call the old school emo (that people here think is good stuff) something else?
Or how about do like hip hop and say there is oldschool emo and new school emo...and maybe even some gangsta emo (okay I'm just being ridiculas here, but I'm serious about the other part)...

― Paul Edward Wagemann (PaulEdwardWagemann), Sunday, 16 July 2006 00:12 (eighteen years ago)

http://3eyes.co.uk/modules/output/generate_image.php?id=1173&w=500&h=500&sq=false

― Marmot 4-Tay: what those guyz make music 4. (marmotwolof), Sunday, 16 July 2006 00:29 (eighteen years ago)

Can someone explain "Nemo" to me?

http://www.geocuriosa.com/pointnemo/nemo.jpg

― The Mad Puffin (The Mad Puffin), Sunday, 16 July 2006 13:44 (eighteen years ago)

Can someone explain "remo" to me, the extinct language formerly spoken around the Amazon and in Peru?

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Sunday, 16 July 2006 13:50 (eighteen years ago)

Can someone explain "Femø" to me, the Danish island known for its use as a holiday destination for feminists and MTF transsexuals?

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Sunday, 16 July 2006 13:51 (eighteen years ago)

Can someone explain "TEMO" to me, a computer acronym standing for Tralix Embedded Mail Object?

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Sunday, 16 July 2006 13:51 (eighteen years ago)

Can someone explain "bemo" to me, a kind of Indonesian version of a jitney?

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Sunday, 16 July 2006 13:52 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.graphicpulse.com/medcom/hemo.gif

― More Tongue Feldman (noodle vague), Sunday, 16 July 2006 14:10 (eighteen years ago)

YOU'VE NOT EXPLAINED ANYTHING YOU'VE JUST POSTED A PHOTO.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Sunday, 16 July 2006 14:11 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.dexigner.com/database/images/designs/steamo-01.jpg

― More Tongue Feldman (noodle vague), Sunday, 16 July 2006 14:34 (eighteen years ago)

Hahaha, the guy who started this thread has a surname a little bit like "Wagamama". I wonder if he wants anyone to explain MISO SOUP to him!!!!!!!!!!

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Sunday, 16 July 2006 14:37 (eighteen years ago)

Dom Passantino: You're "On Notice"!

― Paul Edward Wagemann (PaulEdwardWagemann), Sunday, 16 July 2006 16:30 (eighteen years ago)

oh snap.

― Jessie the Monster (scarymonsterrr), Sunday, 16 July 2006 18:21 (eighteen years ago)

How could this happen to me?

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Sunday, 16 July 2006 18:23 (eighteen years ago)

this thread is so emo

― max (maxreax), Sunday, 16 July 2006 18:34 (eighteen years ago)

So all these teenage kids who are making this sad Emo music must be like living in Africa, starving and living in poverty, and being forced into wars by evil dictators, Right? I mean compared to that what does a spoiled teenage brat living in suburbia have to be sad about?
I mean come on people--this is f%$#ing America. We have everything handed to us on a silver f#@&ing platter! And what are we going to do with this blessing? Sing about how f%$#ing sad we are?
Seriously, can someone explain this to me, and why I shouldnt beat the livin snot out of the next whiney Emo I see?

― Paul Edward Wagemann (PaulEdwardWagemann), Monday, 17 July 2006 02:19 (eighteen years ago)

Do you actually listen to music?

― Marmot 4-Tay: what those guyz make music 4. (marmotwolof), Monday, 17 July 2006 02:25 (eighteen years ago)

why is this guy censoring himself?

― electric sound of jim [and why not] (electricsound), Monday, 17 July 2006 02:29 (eighteen years ago)

Because only poor Africans have earned the RIGHT to swear.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Monday, 17 July 2006 02:36 (eighteen years ago)

Remo vs. Emo
http://www.anni80.info/movies/images/remo.jpg

― timmy tannin (pompous), Monday, 17 July 2006 02:40 (eighteen years ago)

how can i be happy if no one thinks i'm depressed

― nervous (cochere), Monday, 17 July 2006 02:47 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.guypetersreviews.com/images/mrhappy.jpg

"Because I'm...just...so...fucking...SMART."

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 17 July 2006 02:52 (eighteen years ago)

wagemann was funnier when he was this guy

― nervous (cochere), Monday, 17 July 2006 02:53 (eighteen years ago)

LOL we're having equally as much fun with Mr Wagemann over here:

http://www.soundonsound.com/forum/showflat.php?session=9469db8b66c3653599dea6d0ca685a71&Cat=&Number=324792&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1#324792

Looks like his intellect is so vast that he has conjured a way of responding to different comments on different forums by calling on the powers of his enslaved familiars, ctrl-c and ctrl-v.

David Copperfield eat your heart out, please.

― Vince Van Horne (OneManBanned), Monday, 17 July 2006 13:24 (eighteen years ago)

can we ban paul edward wagemann

― cutty (mcutt), Monday, 17 July 2006 13:31 (eighteen years ago)

KUDOS PASH

― fongoloid sangfroid (sanskrit), Monday, 17 July 2006 17:26 (eighteen years ago)

http://pages.globetrotter.net/gcindy/images/oursonfimo2.jpg
FIMO EMO

― people eating fruit (aaron ef.), Monday, 17 July 2006 18:02 (eighteen years ago)

the powers of his enslaved familiars, ctrl-c and ctrl-v.

Gargamel and Azrael had a better relationship, it seems.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 17 July 2006 18:02 (eighteen years ago)

"thrash is what you do; emo is what you live"

― bernard snow (sixteen sergeants), Monday, 17 July 2006 18:05 (eighteen years ago)

http://myspace-624.vo.llnwd.net/00788/42/69/788039624_l.jpg
TEH BANNED!!!!

― Marmot 4-Tay: what those guyz make music 4. (marmotwolof), Monday, 17 July 2006 18:06 (eighteen years ago)

Jesus christ! Isn't that just a wee bit stalky, now?

― less-than three's Christiane F. (drowned in milk), Monday, 17 July 2006 18:11 (eighteen years ago)

Not if he posts his myspace link all over ILX!

― Marmot 4-Tay: what those guyz make music 4. (marmotwolof), Monday, 17 July 2006 18:13 (eighteen years ago)

three months pass...
http://www.10nbc.com/index.asp?template=item&story_id=20466

State police are investigating a series of death-threats against teenagers in the Gananda Central School District. The threats are being posted in on-line chat rooms and the targets are a group of kids known as "emos." If you talk to the students themselves, you'll hear "emos" defined as people who listen to hardcore punk music, who often wear black and sometimes have emotional problems. It's a term being used across the country, but it's what a group of kids in Gananda are doing with that label that has school administrators and police on edge.

"Emo is short for emotional because some kids just where black and those kids are emos because they're emotional," said Kyle Spogen, student at Gananda High School.

"Iit started off as a style of music and then people started making it a way people dress," said Clayton Leonhardt, student at Gananda High School.

At Gananda High School, emos are also targets of on-line bullying. A group of teenagers known as "the emo resistance program" or e-r-p is using myspace.com to spread hate against emos. Since the beginning of the school year, State Trooper Robert Frost has been monitoring e-r-p chat posted with the words, "help prevent emos in america."

Just because the threats are made behind closed doors, doesn't mean that they're hidden from view. In fact, school administrators have copies of them, and they're showing to them to students right now hoping to also show them the seriousness of the consequences.

We're making the students aware that any type of cyber-bullying that comes into the school will not be tolerated," said Superintendent Pat Roach. Students who bully face suspension or in some cases, criminal charges. "Sometimes they just don't understand the impact of what they're saying and doing and what others can see."

Clayton Leonhardt understands the impact. He says it's why he came to Gananda. "I moved from my old school, mainly because of people calling me emo."

What state police are monitoring now is how emos like Clay Leonhardt react to what they see on-line. "If you have pressure put over you and you're in a pressure cooker, than they're may be a time when you react to it," said Trooper Frost. So what started as a high school trend doesn't turn into a tragedy, information was given to students at an assembly, and letters are going out to parents and other school districts to educate them.

The investigation is not over. Police have taken a computer from the student who started the e-r-p group and will review its data looking for specific threats.

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 20:19 (eighteen years ago)

SAVE THE EMOS

― Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 20:25 (eighteen years ago)

emo, short for emotional problems.

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 20:26 (eighteen years ago)

"people who listen to hardcore punk music"
"people who listen to hardcore punk music"
"people who listen to hardcore punk music"
"people who listen to hardcore punk music"
"people who listen to hardcore punk music"
"people who listen to hardcore punk music"
"people who listen to hardcore punk music"
"people who listen to hardcore punk music"

― Rodney is a group! (R. J. Greene), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 20:57 (eighteen years ago)

Clayton Leonhardt understands the impact. He says it's why he came to Gananda. "I moved from my old school, mainly because of people calling me emo."

he moved schools because he was being bullied by being called "emo" and now he's been called "emo" in a newspaper where everyone can see it.
Way to go!

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 21:06 (eighteen years ago)

haha, reviving a PEW thread

― PappaWheelie: Giving out breaks to the needy since September 25th, 2006 (PappaWh, Wednesday, 18 October 2006 21:13 (eighteen years ago)

Haha I hadn't even noticed that! Itw as just the 1st one that came up in the search as it wasn't worth starting a new thread just for that.

Is he still banned?

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 21:29 (eighteen years ago)

only in America

http://icwales.icnetwork.co.uk/southwalesecho/news/tm_headline=police-crackdown-on-party-yobs%26method=full%26objectid=17958230%26siteid=50082-name_page.html

― DJ Mencap (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 19 October 2006 14:58 (eighteen years ago)

ts: emos vs. gothics

― ZR (teenagequiet), Thursday, 19 October 2006 15:00 (eighteen years ago)

hahaha Lambrini.

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Thursday, 19 October 2006 15:06 (eighteen years ago)

emo is short for emotional. goth is short for gothic. Goth's win.

Also: this thread is kind of awesome. & Why would PEW not be still banned?

― TROGDOR (Mr.Que), Thursday, 19 October 2006 15:20 (eighteen years ago)

oh i just mean in the sense of ridiculous subcultural descriptors. as a former goth it always pissed me off for some reason when i saw the word "gothics" because i thought it made the whole enterprise seem just that much stupider. goths at least were cool barbarians who destroyed civilizations, gothics were vampire/poetry types who'd probably never even heard of 45 grave.

― ZR (teenagequiet), Thursday, 19 October 2006 15:23 (eighteen years ago)

Oh okay right. I've never seen it as gothics until your post. I'd still rather hang out with them vs. The Emos. We didn't even have emos when I was in high school. We just had, um, Others? Weirdos?

― TROGDOR (Mr.Que), Thursday, 19 October 2006 15:30 (eighteen years ago)

the day pew's ban expires, he'll post, guranteed

― PappaWheelie: Giving out breaks to the needy since September 25th, 2006 (PappaWh, Thursday, 19 October 2006 15:52 (eighteen years ago)

It's not expired yet then.

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Monday, 23 October 2006 15:32 (eighteen years ago)

five months pass...
I'm sorry. I just had to do it.

― Stevie D, Wednesday, 4 April 2007 08:57 (eighteen years ago)

No I lied I massively regret bringing this thing up. Please put it away again. Please?

― Stevie D, Wednesday, 4 April 2007 09:07 (eighteen years ago)

twelve years pass...

i sort of love that fourfa.com still exists. that is a real piece of alt history right there. particularly the fashion tips page: http://www.fourfa.com/fashion.htm

some good recommendations on the 'best emo records of all time' pages too!

― Hmmmmm (jamiesummerz), Thursday, 25 July 2019 16:20 (five years ago)


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