which technology in the music recording/producing/creating process (from the artists head to your ears)

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Is it the instruments, the amps, the mics, the wiring, the hardware, or the actual compact disc, the files on the CD or the stereo which reproduces the sound which is limiting the current music experience the most from sounding like you're "actually there." Which brings up other questions in terms of electronic music or musics that arent reproducing something live or there isnt any place to "Actually be."

Maybe a better question would be which of these has come the furthest? And I understand that there's a world of difference between a top of the line and bottom of the line stereo.

David Allen (David Allen), Wednesday, 2 August 2006 23:29 (nineteen years ago)

Not sure what you mean by "the current music experience."

Are you sure that it is meant to sound like you are "actually there?"

Aren't plenty of records made with the exact opposite in mind?

Matt Olken (Moodles), Wednesday, 2 August 2006 23:47 (nineteen years ago)

which is limiting the current music experience the most from sounding like you're "actually there.

If there's any generalization to be made, I'd say it's probably the speakers you're listening on. But sometimes it's also a result of compromises made during mixing to make the record sound good on the crappy speakers most people listen on.

See also: Uncompressed records in this day and age

Steve Go1dberg (Steve Schneeberg), Wednesday, 2 August 2006 23:47 (nineteen years ago)

And also mp3 compression.

Steve Go1dberg (Steve Schneeberg), Wednesday, 2 August 2006 23:49 (nineteen years ago)

If you are talking about something sounding live or not live, it mostly has to do with choices made in the recording and mixing process.

Matt Olken (Moodles), Wednesday, 2 August 2006 23:50 (nineteen years ago)

Aren't plenty of records made with the exact opposite in mind?

I wanted to bring that up but it kind of felt like another thread entirely. That's a big issue to it. Even in straight forward rock producing, theyre doing compression, overdubs and tons of things with no pretense of reproducing what the band sounds like live. I wouldnt say most producers even care. Except maybe some lame producer who would say "I saw their live show and just wanted to reproduce their energy man!"

More so I was thinking about how music was once recorded and how it is today, the differences, and what still has the longest way to go. Because most people aren't even trying to be "real" any more, there is the problem of "go where?" but I still think there's something to talk about.

David Allen (David Allen), Wednesday, 2 August 2006 23:57 (nineteen years ago)

That's pretty much the discussion that came up during the "so dated now" thread.

Steve Go1dberg (Steve Schneeberg), Thursday, 3 August 2006 00:00 (nineteen years ago)

I think that for a lot of people who make music, it doesn't entirely start out in their head - it takes shape as they play around with their tools. When you listen to a record mediated by other technology, that *is* the "current music experience".

xavier (xave), Thursday, 3 August 2006 00:08 (nineteen years ago)

what you talking about? I think very few records these days even have the intention of it sounding as though the musician is playign the instrument in the room with you.

Savin All My Love 4 u (Savin 4ll my (heart) 4u), Thursday, 3 August 2006 02:21 (nineteen years ago)

I think that for a lot of people who make music, it doesn't entirely start out in their head - it takes shape as they play around with their tools. When you listen to a record mediated by other technology, that *is* the "current music experience".

OTM

graf cycliz (graf cycliz), Thursday, 3 August 2006 05:23 (nineteen years ago)

haha, but no really

Curt1s St3ph3ns, Thursday, 3 August 2006 05:42 (nineteen years ago)

I think that for a lot of people who make music, it doesn't entirely start out in their head - it takes shape as they play around with their tools. When you listen to a record mediated by other technology, that *is* the "current music experience".

yes, xpost and OTM

...or sometimes the as of yet unproduced sound starts off in the artist's head, and through trial and editing, is produced as closely as possible.

production ideas and their execution have been a major part of pop/rock music since the 60's.

nicky lo-fi (nicky lo-fi), Thursday, 3 August 2006 06:08 (nineteen years ago)

in a word, mastering

simon 803 (simon 803), Thursday, 3 August 2006 09:00 (nineteen years ago)

Dynamic Range of CD: 96dB
Dynamic Range of "live": about 120dB

But I imagine this is a minor factor when considered alongside mixing and mastering choices.

steal compass, drive north, disappear (tissp), Thursday, 3 August 2006 09:09 (nineteen years ago)

sounds livehttp://www.bwspeakers.com/images/SpeakerModel/images/Model_Nautilus/main.jpg

jodawo (jodawo), Thursday, 3 August 2006 21:08 (nineteen years ago)


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