Let's rave about the new Art of Noise box set.

Poor reasoning, but threads have been started on less.

"What, no China Records-era box set?"

Now, I loves me some "Hoops and Mallets," but come ON kids...

But yeah, I'll just take a single-disc China-era B-sides CD, thanks.

OK, I need to order this ZTT box soon.

Disc one.

Beat Box (One Made Earlier)

... same as on "Belief System."

Once Upon A Lime

... a demo version of "Snapshot." Pretty similar to the released
version, with echo-laden interjections from some NYC hip-hop radio emcee breaking
the song into two mirroring halves.

War (Demo 2)

... An excerpt of "A Time For Fear" without the "Military forces,
military forces..." radio samples.

Close to the Edge

... An endearingly cheesy early version of "Close" with warm string
pads similar to those you hear during the fade-in to "Edited."

Confession

... a weird little Linndrum-and-synth improv jam that's about a minute long.

Moments in Love

... It's basically "Moments in Love" with a different approach to
the mix of instruments. A bit more dry than the final mix.

Sign on Relief

... another very similar version of the "Snapshot" demo. I'm not
sure this track is legit, as it's literally just the Once Upon A Lime demo cut
in half, but I can't think of why someone would swap out this one track as a
fake. Otherwise I see no point for it to be included.

Who's Afraid of Scale

... same as on "Belief System."

So What Happens Now

... another demo of "A Time For Fear" with slightly different mix
preferences to the final version and a handful of swapped-out and/or missing
samples. Despite the title, they haven't found the "So what happens now?"
sample yet, but the eerie middle bit is here.

The Subject Has Moved Left

... same as on "Belief System."

It's not fair

... Anne Dudley laughing and going "It's not fair!" before an improvisational
jam with the funk bass from "Beat Box (Diversions 3 & 4)" kicks
in. Then the whole song goes to Hell with jarringly swapped-out samples everywhere.
You can pretty much tell that "Who's Afraid?" was the result of about
100 hours of studio jamming. Most of which will be reproduced here under tantalizing
new names, apparently.

Close to the Edge (Ruff Mix)

... Similar to "Close to the Edge" above, but a little more polished
(despite the name) and closer to the well-known version. It sticks around on
the "To be in England..." moody string part for a lot longer, but
without the narration.

A Time for Fear (Who's Afraid)

Version #3. A pretty firm split between "So what happens now" and
the album version, with a lovely new coda.

Moments In Bed

"Moments in Love" with odd vocal interjections.

Hidden Track

A full minute's worth of the tinny swing-music sample that comes out of nowhere
during a breakdown in "A Time for Fear."

Once Upon A Lime

... a demo version of "Snapshot." Pretty similar to the released
version, with echo-laden interjections from some NYC hip-hop radio emcee breaking the song into two mirroring halves.

I wonder if that's the World Famous Supreme Team? Horn & Dudley's production work on Malcolm McLaren's D'ya Like Scratchin' was already using a lot of the samples that would turn up on "Beat Box", I wouldn't be surprised they helped themselves to some leftover samples from the previous project...

Moments in Love (12 inch B Side idea)

The first minute is an "a cappella" version utilizing the "mo - ments - in - love" samples + drum machine. The remaining two minutes feature some riffing on the synthesized flute against the usual backdrop.

Tears out of a Stone

Another weird sample loop experiment like "Resin" from "Belief System," this time using what sounds like a Willie Nelson sample against a synth-waltz backing track with a distorted sample of the choral bits from "Realization." Doesn't do much for three minutes.

Samba #2

A radio sample, plus drums from "A Time For Fear."

The Chain of Chance

The springy rhythm track from the album mix of "Who's Afraid" in test patterns with various elements from "Who's Afraid (Of Scale)".

Fairlight-in-the-being

Various elements from "Close-Up" in experimental combinations. Ultimately coheres into something very much like "Close-Up."

Diversions 3

As the title says, it's half of "Diversions 3 + 4" from the NME Department of Enjoyment cassette.

Close (To Being Compiled)

More excerpts and tweaks from "Close-Up", including crotchety British narrator. Gets very strange around 2:30.

Diversions 5

This is "Diversion 4", now apparently #5.

Damn it all

More of the same from "Tears out of a Stone."

Structure

Same as on "Belief System."

The Angel Reel: Hymn 1 (Take 2) + Hymn 3 + Fairground

Some pipe organ playing. Sounds like they were trying to work out the monstrous organ in "How To Kill."

And what have you done with my body, God?

Early version of "How to Kill" with lots more footsteps + organ.

Klimax

"A Time for Fear" (again) with the radio samples intact.

Who Knew?

Even more of the same from "Tears out of a Stone." ("Why Bother?" would have been a better title.)

War (Demo)

"A Time for Fear" with the radio samples intact. It's "Klimax" but longer. All the major elements are now intact.

The Focus of Satisfaction

Some synthy '80s keyboard riffing segues into a danceably recombinant jam on "Who's Afraid" which then settles in on the couch and has a nice mixed drink for eleven minutes.

Moments In Love (Rejected 7" Version)

Yep, it's a 7" version of "Moments in Love."

It Stopped

Despite the title, not a working mix of "How to Kill," but another stab at "Beat Box" with more sample-swapping in the breakdown. Not too far afield of what we've heard before. It rocks here and there. And gains an electronic flute solo. And some solo piano. And then it goes into bits from "Diversion 3." At one point they swap out the funk bass for drum samples. Anne goes, "It stopped!" So it does.

The Uncertainty of Syrup

Vocal samples alternately drifting and glitching. Vladislav Delay is listening in diapers, somewhere. Oh, and now it's "Realization."

The Long Hello

Thunder, footsteps. "How to Kill!" And that fucking sample from "Tears out of a Stone" again. (They desperately wanted to work that in somewhere...) More organ, more tears, and now an actual live choir singing along with Anne. "How to Kill" is now even more pretentious than in the album version: yes, it's possible.

The Vacuum Divine

The creepy interlude from "A Time for Fear."

The Ambassadors' Reel: Beat Box

It's the American 45 version of "Beat Box."

The Ambassadors' Reel: Medley

I know I've heard this before, but where? It's "Love Beat" (aka "Three Fingers of Love") mashed into the creepy interlude from "A Time for Fear" mashed into "How To Kill" mashed into the verses of "A Time For Fear" mashed into ... well, you get the point. It's like a really long version of "A Time To Hear (Who's Listening?)" except using different bits of the songs and in different sequence.

The Ambassadors' Reel: Oobly

It's all Linn-drummy and 1980s Soloflex workout commercial. I want sweatbands and a mullet. Super-unsure what to make of this. Someone's playing a real guitar.

Goodbye Art of Noise

"Tears out of a Stone" sample + choir from "How to Kill" for 30 seconds. Again. And why not?

Hidden Track

An edited mix of the very first "Moments in Love" from Disc 1 which ends abruptly.

Into Battle.

The EP. Original vinyl version of "Beat Box," but uses the 5:10 "B-Attle Edit" of "Moments In Love" from the original UK cassette.

That Was Close.

The canonical 20-minute mix of "Close" featuring all of the major iterations as featured on the original UK cassette single.

Moments In Love (From Battle to Beaten).

The canonical 15-minute mix of "Moments" featuring all of the major iterations as featured on the original UK cassette single.

In case we sneezed

Studio chit-chat with reverb.

A Time To Hear (Who's Listening?)

Popular B-side "concentrate" of the Who's Afraid album.

(do) Donna (do)

Original B-side to "Close (To The Edit)". Longer version of "Donna."

Hidden Track

The crazy breakdown from "Beat Box" plus some other nutty found-sound, all played backwards.

...and that's it, except for the DVD portion. And the liner-notes, naturally.

So electronic music now has a band that can actually rival the jazz market for scrupulously compiled, endlessly rehearsed, and perhaps slightly too exhaustive working notes for remarkably brief final albums.

Oh, Art of Noise, we knew you had it in you all along...

Actually, I can't believe I forgot, but "Close-Up" was also appended to the recent CD/DVD reissue of Into Battle, which would cost you a heck of a lot less money.

oh for FUCK'S SAKE

As long as the original "Beat Box" from Into Battle is used, I'm happy... edited "Moments In Love" or not...

If you're a vinyl whore, 2 copies of Into Battle are essential equipment for going... er, into battle.

Maybe this box set is just trying to put stress on that bridge, and they'll follow this up with an eight track release of Into Battle called We Care Not For The Fuckers Who Must Seek Out Completion In A Debut Release, And Why Not? (Daring You To Play This Nevertheless)?

The box really is predominantly a set of working tapes. Even on the third or fourth listen, I find myself skipping some of the less pertinent tracks. It's clearly not presented in chronological order; some tracks are just shorter bits of other tracks; certain mixes only change a spot of reverb or add a sample. I don't think it's meant to be a consistent, linear listen in the vein of Join the Dots or Datapanik in the Year Zero. You really have to be interested in the process - the complete process - by which they arrived at their two reputation-cementing masterpieces. If all you want is a B-sides and remixes collection, there will be way, way, way more than you ever need to hear.

That said, if you haven't already heard those remixes - the likes of "Beat Box (Diversions 3 + 4)" and "That Was Close" - then you haven't heard how truly fucked-up and inside-out the AoN could be. They did more to subvert, expand, explode, and innovate the dance-music form than anyone of their era, and as crucial as Into Battle and Who's Afraid are, they just don't present the whole picture.

Regarding stress on the bridge ... the Art of Noise were all about excess, as anyone who has tried to collect all the myriad scraps, ambiguous remixes, and confusing re-pressings and repackagings can attest. This box is, on the one hand, the ultimate fuck-you (hence the constant re-naming of the same ten songs), but it's also the ultimate gift. Sorta depends on your perspective.

But since you asked... Five essential tracks:

1. That Was Close.
2. The Focus of Satisfaction.
3. Who's Afraid (Of Scale).
4. Beat Box (Diversion 3) + (Diversion 5) - formerly issued as one track under the name "Beat Box (Diversions 3 + 4)"
5. It's not fair.

At present, 1/2 way through CD1.

There is no DVD in it, by the way.

A compilation of the 12" singles and all the 'remix' versions of Beatbox/Close would be nice but hey heavy on the repetition for certain.

The first thing I thought reading Myke's take (and thanks, Myke — that was great) was The Complete Jack Johnson box from a few years back.

There is no DVD in it, by the way.

Is there even a fourth disc?

And indeed, was issued as a 45 in england too, under the title "Diversion 10". B-side was "Diversion 2" as per the "That was close" segment.

All is confusion.

What exactly is Bashful?

http://www.discogs.com/release/181039

Finally got this. Thanks Amoeba! And thanks whoever sold it back to them! And thanks store credit!

I like it, especially the EP, but how many versions of every track do you really need? Bit too much of a good thing at times.

Just dug this out of the loft, digging it all over again...

Bored the arse off me, frankly. Nice as an archaeological trinket.

I suppose because I like these sorts of Work In Progress sets.

The Stooges "Fun House" sessions, for example.

Hmm, what others? Not including jazz, which is quite well served in that area.

I love all eras of AON (even Below the Waste) but this... ugh.

Revive!

The box IS a lot to listen to -- and it needs to be said that a lot of AoN "remixes" aren't really all that different from one another. I count myself as a mini-obsessive over these guys (and would love a proper copy), but would have a hard time distinguishing one diversion of "Beat Box" from another. That said, they are awesome and deserve much love.

Also since this thread was started, Salvo has been putting out awesome deluxe reissues of ZTT stuff, including Influence, which is a collection of singles, soundtrack and unreleased stuff, as well as Into Battle with the Art of Noise, which is the EP correctly released at last along with an "unreleased" first version of Who's Afraid...(which, of course, was actually released on And What Have You Done...):

Art of Noise: Influence
2xCD: SALVODCD212 / Element 10

The A Side: Singles, hits, soundtracks and collabs...

A is for Beginning 02:23 *
Moments In Love 04:39 **
Beat Box (Diversion 10) 04:02
Close (to the Edit) 04:12 **
Love Beat 05:16

promenade one 00:32
Legs 03:30 **
Peter Gunn, featuring Duane Eddy 03:56
Paranoimia, featuring Max Headroom (The Paranoid Mix) 06:30 **
Dragnet (Art of Noise 7” Mix) 03:02

promenade two 00:38
Ode to Don Jose 04:13
Acton Art 02:50
(theme from) The Krypton Factor 00:53 *
Kiss, featuring Tom Jones 03:32

finale 02:38
Metaforce, featuring Rakim 05:47 *
Something is Missing 05:19 *
The Holy Egoism of Genius 07:56

The AA Side: Unreleased experiments, before and after science...

interlude one 00:15 *
Beep Beep 03:59 *
Beat Box (Diversion 3.4, extracted) 04:44 *
A Time For Fear (JJ's 12” Remix) 04:06 *
Dainty 01:42 *
Moments in Love (Anne to Tears Mix) 03:56 *
Moments in Love with Lucky Gordon (Monitor Mix) 02:07 *

interlude two 00:21 *
This is Your Life (take six, TCH Vox) 01:59 *
This is Your Life (take three, M Vox) 04:35 *
I’m A Stranger Here Myself 05:22 *
Cassandra 06:04 *

interlude three 01:33 *
Dr Gradus 02:00 *
Dreaming in Colour, via Way Out West 06:40 *
On Being Blue (New Vox) 05:53 *
Beau Soir 02:49 *
Balance – Music for the Eye (extract from Part Three: (i) Blue Murder, (ii) The Interrupted Serenade, (iii) Ce N'est Pas Fini! 03:20 *
Dr Gradus (reprise) 01:00 *
The Invention of Love 02:48 *

* previously unreleased
** previously unreleased on CD

A is for Beginning recorded live at the Coachella Festival, 10 September 1999.
Beau Soir recorded live in rehearsal for Coexistence, 01 June 2000

Part ten in ZTT's ever-expanding Element Series. A product of Zang Tuum Tumb, the organisation of pop. Literally, metaphorically, romantically and symbolically.

Art of Noise: Into Battle with the Art of Noise
CD: SALVOCD049 / Element 16

Into Battle
1 Battle
2 Beat Box
3 The Army Now
4 Donna
5 Moments in Love
6 Bright Noise
7 Flesh in Armour
8 Comes and Goes
9 Moment in Love

Worship
10 Who’s Afraid of the Art of Noise?
11 One Finger of Love
12 Diversions 1
13 Two Fingers of Love
14 the Uncertainty of Syrup
15 Damn It All!
16 Three Fingers of Love
17 Sign of Relief
18 Hands Off Love
19 Diversions 5
20 Goodbye, Art of Noise
21 Confession
22 Close (to the Edit)
23 Diversions 3
24 The Movement of Desire
25 And What Have You Done With My Body, God?
26 The Wounds of Wonder
27 A Time for Fear (Who’s Afraid?)

INTO BATTLE: made up in the capital FEBRUARY-AUGUST 1982, released SEPTEMBER 1983

WORSHIP: collaged in the capital JANUARY-APRIL 1984, locked in a vault, released APRIL 2011

This was always Number ONE in Zang Tuum Tumb’s blue Incidental Series.
“to the death for life”

i wish ZTT would put out the Frankie version of Slave To The Rhythm.

I'm not totally sure it exists -- but if it does, the place for it to be included would be a deluxe reissue of Grace's album (which is awesome).

Boy, these guys are hard to puzzle out. What's unique on that "Into Battle" reissue vis-a-vis the box set?

I believe nothing -- just that the "unreleased" early version of Who's Afraid is acknowledged as such...

Frankly, I pulled out the unique b-sides from the box and filed the rest of the works-in-progress and sample tracks away. Nice to have, not likely to ever go back to them.

yeah it does exist, WORD magazine's writer (name escapes me) was played it 'in a car' when the Propaganda/Frankie reissues came out last year.

Influence is pretty great -- all the best stuff off of not only the ZTT records but also the later China records, as well as lots of very interesting b-sides and curiosities.

For some crazy reason, I posted all of Myke's comments on these songs into my iTunes files the other night so if I ever had a "Hey, I need to play all the versions of 'How to Kill' RIGHT NOW!"

I am also a sick man.

I have both those sets above.

There's a deluxe version of the album coming up, I believe.

as well as Into Battle with the Art of Noise, which is the EP correctly released at last

― Naive Teen Idol, Wednesday, 8 June 2011 04:56 (6 days ago)

really?

What's unique on that "Into Battle" reissue vis-a-vis the box set?

― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Wednesday, 8 June 2011 06:58 (6 days ago)

I believe nothing -- just that the "unreleased" early version of Who's Afraid is acknowledged as such...

― Naive Teen Idol, Wednesday, 8 June 2011 07:18 (6 days ago)

MAKE UP YOUR MIND

The EP. Original vinyl version of "Beat Box," but uses the 5:10 "B-Attle Edit" of "Moments In Love" from the original UK cassette.

oh for FUCK'S SAKE

― kit brash, Saturday, 5 August 2006 13:39 (4 years ago)

The sleeve note on the new 'deluxe' version of the ep says the full version will be on the 'deluxe' edition of the album.

Also, "Beatbox diversion 3" is as per the NME cassette "Department of Enjoyment", although the "diversion 4" isn't on this...
(and neither has been on CD before, so I guess Div4 will be on the deluxe edition...)

The sleeve note on the new 'deluxe' version of the ep says the full version will be on the 'deluxe' edition of the album.

gggrrnnrgnngnngrnrnnngh

if you count Daft, this is, what, the fourth CD version of Into Battle to not actually have the tracklisting of Into Battle?

well, you can program "daft" to play the orig e.p.

a) doesn't have Battle, right version of Beat Box, right version of MIL, Moment In Love, or pretty much any of the tracks in the right durations IIRC
b) even if it did, it wouldn't flow the same way as the 12", pausing to re-spin the CD in between every track

In which case, you can't 'count' "Daft" as it's not pretending to offer up the ep.

well, that's why I made a caveat for it. it does sort of PRETEND to...

Wait, I'm pretty sure the deluxe Into Battle has the original version of everything -- including the correct "Beat Box." My point was that short of the 10-minute "Moments In Love," the box set had it already.

I like Duane Eddy best.

ok. forgive the dopey question, but are the differences between all these variations on beatbox, that different ?
i have never played any of these versions back to back, so not done a like for like comparison.

Well, there's "Beatbox", which spawned "Diversion 1"

and there's "Beatbox diversion 2" which we all know as "Close to the edit/edge"

One long version of BB1 fades into a piano version

Some of the orchestral stabe run backwards on some versions...

One long version of BB1 fades into a piano version

ahh .. this is the one i love.

of course.

Actually, that "Diversion 3" was the one I liked best, and I was amazed it wasn't on any record (or CD) for donkeys years, until this latest ep...

So NTI's saying the deluxe has the full proper Into Battle, then saying it doesn't, then saying he misspoke and it DOES... but meantime Mark has said that the sleevenotes specifically say that it doesn't...?

in the sentence

The sleeve note on the new 'deluxe' version of the ep says the full version will be on the 'deluxe' edition of the album.

what is the "full version" a version OF, and what "album" is having a putative future version?

The sleeve note on the new 'deluxe' version of the ep says the full version of "Moments in Love" that was on the original vinyl e.p. was the same as the version on the original LP, and as such will be on the 'deluxe' edition of the album, whereas the 'edit' version on the cassette version of the e.p. is not available on any other format (never been on vinyl), so has been called the 'definitive ep version' for the purposes of archive releases.

The USA cassette edition did contain the full version of MIL, and to make up for the five min difference in running time between side A and B, they added "BeatBox" onto the end of side 1 so that track is, effectively, twice on side 1.

whereas the 'edit' version on the cassette version of the e.p. is not available on any other format

But this is str8 bullshit because it is on the box set! and the whole point of using the cassette version of the EP there was because that whole disc was otherwise cassette-only tracks IIRC? Plainly they've just used the digital master made for the box set out of laziness/expedience. >:(

Oh, I know, etc.

It was worth getting purely for the "worship" album, which is how I would have liked the album to have been at the time, not the "Who's afraid" version which disappointed me at the time.

Don't tempt me, I'm sulking! It's only $11.95 online w/ free postage from the englands tho :-/

So NTI's saying the deluxe has the full proper Into Battle, then saying it doesn't, then saying he misspoke and it DOES... but meantime Mark has said that the sleevenotes specifically say that it doesn't...?

So, here's the deal: they messed up the reissue of Into Battle in 2003 or so and put the wrong version of "Beat Box" on it. Then, with the AWHYDFMG boxed set they included the whole EP with the CORRECT version of "Beat Box" except it included an edit of "Moments in Love" instead of the full 10-minute version. For most people, that wasn't a big deal b/c the original was on Daft.

The sleeve note on the new 'deluxe' version of the ep says the full version of "Moments in Love" that was on the original vinyl e.p. was the same as the version on the original LP, and as such will be on the 'deluxe' edition of the album, whereas the 'edit' version on the cassette version of the e.p. is not available on any other format (never been on vinyl), so has been called the 'definitive ep version' for the purposes of archive releases.

Yes. The deluxe version has the same track listing as the box -- the edited "Moments in Love," original "Beat Box." (I was wrong about them including the full "Moments in Love" -- for that I will be eternally sorry)

ok. forgive the dopey question, but are the differences between all these variations on beatbox, that different ?

The version on Into Battle—the "first" version—is shorter, lacks the piano ending and has lots of car-starting sample craziness. Because of the latter, it actually sounds a lot like "Close to the Edit" in places (supposedly the latter is a "radical remix" of "Beat Box").

So, now: It's on Spotify already (minus the DVD, obviously)..

Who's Afraid of the Art of Noise? (Deluxe)Posted on 22.07.11
Zang Tuum Tumb and Salvo Music are proud to present Who's Afraid of the Art of Noise? the Deluxe CD + DVD Edition.

The fearful audio disc: features the classic 1984 album remastered and the first release ever of AoN's BBC Radio 1 live sessions. The first, for Saturday Live in November 1984, includes studio interviews with JJ Jeczalik, Gary Langan, Anne Dudley and Paul Morley and live renditions of Close (to the Edit), Moments in Love and Beat Box (which morphs, only this once, into Video Killed The Radio Star). The second, recorded for Janice Long in March 1985, includes the From Science to Silence rendition of Donna.

The afraid DVD: features Anton Corbijn and Zbigniew Rybczynski's classic videos for Beat Box and Close (to the Edit), a documentary in two parts ('so what happens now?' and ‘so what happened next?’), nine TV adverts including Kenneth Williams' legendary spoken word sessions, previously-unseen live recordings including AoN 4.0 live at Coexistence, the full-length, made-for-cinemas Closer (to the Edit), and cinema trailers voiced by Patrick Allen.

Who's Afraid of the Art of Noise? (Deluxe) is released on 05 September 2011.

disc one (audio)
Who's Afraid of the Art of Noise? 1. A Time For Fear (Who’s Afraid), 2. Beat Box (Diversion One), 3. Snapshot, 4. Close (to the Edit), 5. Who’s Afraid (of the Art of Noise), 6. Moments in Love, 7. Memento, 8. How to Kill, 9. Realisation. Radio 1, November 1984 BBC live session: 10. ‘too busy talking’, 11. Close (to the Edit), 12. ‘exploring the jungle’, 13. Moments in Love, 14. ‘arranged in a circle’, 15. Beat Box (Diversion Seven). Radio 1, March 1985 BBC live session: 16. From Science to Silence, 17. Beat Box, 18. Moments in Love

disc two (dvd)
A Feast of Reason – All Art: 1. ‘so what happens now?’, 2. Beat Box, 3. Close (to the Edit) version one, 4. Closer (to the Edit) cinema version, 5. Moments in Love, 6. an Art of Noise live at The Value of Entertainment, June 1985, 7. Moments in Love live around the world, Summer 1999, 8. Beat Box and Close (to the Edit) live at Coexistence, June 2000. All Noise: 9. Close (to the Edit) version three,10. Moments in Love version two, 11. Close (to the Edit) version two, 12. Beat Box edit, 13. ‘so what happened next?’. When Art of Noise met Kenneth Williams (and Other Commercial Breaks): 14. Who's Afraid of the Art of Noise? TV commercial, 15. Close (to the Edit) TV commercial (“so cuddly”), 16. Close (to the Edit) cinema trailer, take one, 17. Close (to the Edit) cinema trailer, take two, 18. Close (to the Edit) TV commercial (“so cosy”), 19. Moments in Love TV commercial, 20. Moments in Love TV commercial (edit), 21. “sleak hectoring”, 22. Art of Noise at the End of a Century

well, that's not going to help me sell my copy

Oh, it's £6.99

The new set, not your copy.

Ohhh, those BBC session tracks have got my attention. On Spotify, you say? (Puts fingers together like Mr. Burns)

It would be nice if someone reissued the other Art of Noise albums (all of which are out of print) instead their first EP and album being reissued multiple times in countless permutations. In Visible Silence especially is a really good album, but it's pretty hard to find even a used copy for a decent price.

this music needs to come out as a soundtrack:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uEBNvczxdas&feature=relmfu

filled with art of noise things. doubt they had anything to do with it. so cool.

I still can't figure this out: does the box set contain everything that makes up "Worship"?

not if you take the 2011 version of Worship as being the definitive one

And where is "Edited", apart from the original 12" picdisc single?

Out in Feb a little box with an album of unreleased material, a rework of The Seduction of Claude Debussy and a dvd of two live gigs in 2000 (hmmm).

Def interested in hearing the new version of the Debussy album which is imho their best stuff outside of the early ZTT material. And if the unreleased stuff is from the same Horn/Dudley/Creme/Morley team then there will certainly be something worth listening to.

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41NdEkDjBcL._SY300_.jpg

I think one of the performances is the one featured in this dvd, I have fond memories of buying this from Music Zone back in the day

For sure some of the tracks on that dvd are from the same concert as track 8 on this one (others are from Coachella the previous year) but it's hard to tell what with all their renaming of stuff and so on.

Did the China-era records get reissued yet? Believe they were supposed to have been by now.