The Britpop Wig-Out Thread : TS : Pulp's Sunrise vs Suede's The Asphalt World

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I like it when bands cut loose. As well as TS on the two above please recommend your favourite wig-out tracks from bands who don't normally do that sort of thing ( ie grateful dead can fuck right off )

winter testing (winter testing), Friday, 11 August 2006 23:02 (nineteen years ago)

OMG

they're both brilliant but Essex Dogs (which I've just mentioned on teh other thread) beats them both. Just.

If pressed, Sunrise.

Louis Jagger (Haberdager), Friday, 11 August 2006 23:06 (nineteen years ago)

to clarify:

The reason Pulp scrape the win is because the song was used at the (awesome) climax of brilliant BBC cartoon Monkey Dust, in the most stunning fusion of song and small screen I've ever witnessed. Also, it's the last song on their last album so awwwwww.

I feel bad; The Asphalt World was my pick as the 'song that best describes my city'.

Another great Britpop wig-out is actually a post-Britpop one: British Sea Power's 'Lately'. Which is pretty spectacular on any scale.

Louis Jagger (Haberdager), Friday, 11 August 2006 23:15 (nineteen years ago)

I've had that record ("the decline of...") since it came out and have never got round to playing it . in it goes now, better be good Jagger, or I wasted 9.99 about three years ago...

winter testing (winter testing), Friday, 11 August 2006 23:18 (nineteen years ago)

SFA's 'Mountain People' ends with a INSANE techno wig-out, incidentally.

Peoples, I feel like I'm the only one here! The thread topic may pander to two of my great loves (Britpop and wig-outs) but I promise promise PROMISE not to mention M****n or The E******c S**t P****e, so jump in!

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It isn't actually that good, WT, to be brutally frank, but it does have a couple of KILLER songs, namely 'Carrion' and the aforementioned 'Lately', which for its sins is nearly fourteen minutes long. A very guilty pleasure but a pleasure nonetheless.

Plus, you'll probably like it more than I did.

Louis Jagger (Haberdager), Friday, 11 August 2006 23:21 (nineteen years ago)

14 minutes later ... yep lately was ok, mixed a little timidly though, no?

( this is where we need Nick Southall to tell us all about The Evils Of Compression again )

winter testing (winter testing), Friday, 11 August 2006 23:40 (nineteen years ago)

i'm tangenting away from my own strict thread premise , but on the subject of wigouts, Malkmus's "No more shoes" , oh yes ...

winter testing (winter testing), Friday, 11 August 2006 23:45 (nineteen years ago)

oh yes, OTM, my speakers don't exactly sizzle even at the height of the carnage. Not so much Stooges as, erm, a rather angry Cure.

I've found another one: Rie's Wagon by Gomez *runs*

Do Spiritualized count as Britpop? If so, the possible contributions to this thread practically double...

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I've actually heard that song (courtesy of a friend) and noticed that it did actually kick arse significantly harder than the rest of that album. Great spot. And if we're not just on Britpop...

Louis Jagger (Haberdager), Friday, 11 August 2006 23:45 (nineteen years ago)

oh, and as I've said before, Pulp's most astonishing (if not best) wig-out is on the same album as Sunrise, but about 5 tracks earlier. ANYWAY, other examples include XTC's Complicated Game (an unfairly-maligned blinder), XTC's Travels In Nihilon (just to make sure everybody got the point), Dodgy's UKRIP, Crash Test Dummies' How Does A Duck Know, Beck's Diamond Bollocks......

Louis Jagger (Haberdager), Saturday, 12 August 2006 00:04 (nineteen years ago)

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no Spiritualized do not count as Britpop nor qualify for "wig-out tracks from bands who don't normally do that sort of thing" in fact i think they'd be the opposite.

But please don't get me started on how good Spiritualized are ( or even that in the battle of Summer '97 Ladies & Gentlemen pissed all over OK Computer yet OKC is held up as some great cultural totem whereas "Jason Who???".

winter testing (winter testing), Saturday, 12 August 2006 00:07 (nineteen years ago)

I thought the same thing actually upon re-reading the criteria at the top of the thread. Wig-outs are clearly one of Pierce's staples.

BTW, I own Albert Hall but not Ladies And Gentlemen, Pure Phase but not LGM, and Let It Come Down (arbitrarily). Should I invest in the other two pronto (not counting Amazing Grace), considering that the stuff I do have is magnificent? Is thinking L&G to be arbitrary considering I have most of the tracks live heresy? Is the fact I've heard I Think I'm In Love on both versions and think the live one destroys the studio one irrelevant? Tell me, do...

Louis Jagger (Haberdager), Saturday, 12 August 2006 00:11 (nineteen years ago)

Louis, you're asking me if the best rekkid of the 90's is worth buying? It was about £5.99 in Virgin last time I looked.

winter testing (winter testing), Saturday, 12 August 2006 00:33 (nineteen years ago)

*cowers* Yes sir, very good sir.

Although the band itself would wig out every thirty seconds on their first two albums, Lincoln's Eyes is the only true late-period Rev flameout I can think of (not-so-coincidentally the best thing they've done since Boces).

Louis Jagger (Haberdager), Saturday, 12 August 2006 00:46 (nineteen years ago)

'A Saucerful Of Secrets' really is Pink Floyd's only post-Barrett bona-fide wig-out. NOTHING they did after that would match it for noise, freedom of form or sustainment of assault.

Louis Jagger (Haberdager), Saturday, 12 August 2006 01:18 (nineteen years ago)

Jagger: Please invest some of yr time wisely and buy "ladies and gents..." it's far ad away their best album...

gekoppel (Gekoppel), Saturday, 12 August 2006 15:07 (nineteen years ago)

'The Asphalt World' edges 'Sunrise.' Just.

bkjj40a (bkjj40a), Saturday, 12 August 2006 15:34 (nineteen years ago)

i'm tangenting away from my own strict thread premise , but on the subject of wigouts, Malkmus's "No more shoes" , oh yes ...

I love that thing, but I wouldn't call it a wigout: if anything, it's super-controlled. Every note of that insane solo feels written (not to mention it's gloriously double-tracked!).

joseph cotten (joseph cotten), Saturday, 12 August 2006 15:34 (nineteen years ago)

eleven months pass...

Actually, Asphalt World in my mind is one of the best songs from the nineties; it is leagues away from Sunrise. It would make my top 10. I really cannot say enough how much I love this song.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0wKKeSbxGh8

humansuit, Thursday, 2 August 2007 22:03 (eighteen years ago)

one month passes...

wow, never seen that video before - ok, it's a bit lame, but man what a song! too close to call between that and sunrise though...but i guess suede win by default just for having been around longer.

CharlieNo4, Wednesday, 19 September 2007 10:41 (eighteen years ago)

aren't Spiritualized mostly about one step away from Bobby Gillespie in the "most persistent, tedious, unexciting allusions to like, hard drugs, broken harts and desperately real rock'n'roll from when it were good maaaan" (in the absences of better ideas) ever contest? meeeeeh sorry.

this is a weird one, I was thinking I remembered "The Asphalt World" being pretty great... then realised I was thinking of something completely different, i.e. "Stay Together"! that 8 or 9 minute single they released between the first and second album which sort of convinced me they were on to something good, a mood at least. Which they were sometimes (never more than on Dog Man Star probably) in between the frequent awfulness of Brett's "songwriting" (even at the time I was uh.. in two minds about them being actually any good and basically being haircut indie beta). It sure as fuck knocked Oasis's "big single" into a cocked hat though! "Whatever" indeed.

Britpop ... coming out in hives .. must leave thread....

fandango, Wednesday, 19 September 2007 12:12 (eighteen years ago)

(haven't heard much late Pulp sadly, probably great yes, will get round to it eventually... maybe)

fandango, Wednesday, 19 September 2007 12:14 (eighteen years ago)

I’m not a Suede fan by any measure but you can hardly find a better song than Asphalt World though admittedly the raunchy guitar riff that kicks in a minute from start feels a bit dated.

Mr. Goodman, Wednesday, 19 September 2007 14:48 (eighteen years ago)

"most persistent, tedious, unexciting allusions to like, hard drugs, broken harts and desperately real rock'n'roll from when it were good maaaan"

thank the good lord suede were able to steer clear of obvious allusions to hard drug use, melancholy, and 70s rock cliches.

That one guy that hit it and quit it, Wednesday, 19 September 2007 14:53 (eighteen years ago)

I wasn't pitting Spiritualized against Suede! good lord... (more tweaking the thread starter ;-) )

actually suspect I'd like the earlier (Spiritualized) stuff anyway from what I can recall hearing in a droney-weirdly-VU kinda vein, by the time of "Ladies and Gentlemen..." I just thought hmm what an enormous bag of dadrock bs to everything I encountered of 'em :/

fandango, Wednesday, 19 September 2007 15:23 (eighteen years ago)


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