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http://www.decibelmagazine.com/features/sep2006/gaysinmetal.aspx


(reason why i heart decibel #666)

scott seward (scott seward), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 04:21 (nineteen years ago)

blabbermouth response to thread:

http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=56083

scott seward (scott seward), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 04:25 (nineteen years ago)

in other news, the new york times continues to impress:


"So you could age out of the relentless grimness, or grow numb to it. You could follow music and not be aware that Slayer existed anymore: the music has changed so much in 20 years, and Slayer fans tend to be the people who are invisible to the news media: immigrants, kitchen workers, unpopular teenagers."


just don't tell these guys:


http://www.hessian.org/metal/culture/underground_metal_disagrees_with_mainstream_political_trend/

scott seward (scott seward), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 04:41 (nineteen years ago)

I didn't know kitchen workers listened to metal!

Domenico Buttez (ESTEBAN BUTTEZ~!!!), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 05:09 (nineteen years ago)

Doesn't the Hessian Underground or whatever see that metal, too, is designed to keep us all docile and in our places etc. etc. blah blah.

A little learning is a dangerous thing. Though the article that guy's responding to is stuuupid.

Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 05:14 (nineteen years ago)

Er, presuming he's a guy. She. Whatevs.

Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 05:14 (nineteen years ago)

Decibel article *very* cool.

Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 05:20 (nineteen years ago)

Decibel article no more or less cool than pompous hessian.org article. Six of one, half dozen of other. Nominate 'em both for the New Yorker or the Atlantic, I say. Me, I'm also interested in the book on Golem reprints done up the NY Times book review. The Golem was heavy metal incarnate, and could've easily been perceived as a manufactured totem, fashioned as a drug-gobbling fag, particularly if you read Gustav Meyrink. (And can't AC/DC and Bon Scott -- "he was a fag" meme because he wore a dress and sang "Big Balls," and other things be worked in somehow?)

And what about Saxon covering a Skyhooks hit? The Skyhooks were really fags.

Boy, if I were your academic advisor and grading these things as MS theses, and I've done that, I wouldn't know what to think.

As for the "kitchen workers" thing . . . well, I'm going to have to remember that for my blog when reaching for an insult. I can guarantee it will be funnier.

And how did Manowar as pinnacle of homoeroticism and closeted fags get left out? "Hail, hail to England! Hail, hail, hail!" You know damn well a lot of heartland Americans think Limeys are fags! Like Tony Blair.

Now excuse me, I'm going to put on my Slojack and Extra Fancy CDs.
Cycle Sluts from Hell, too, because the male models have their butts pointed at the cameras.

Urnst Kouch (Urnst Kouch), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 07:49 (nineteen years ago)

Mmm, good points, but I still think the Decibel article gets a lot done in the space allowed -- which may be the real issue. I'd read a book on this, and I'm tolly a metal amateur compared with people like Scott or Phil Freeman.

Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 08:13 (nineteen years ago)

Do I mean Phil or George the Animal? Sheesh, amateurs.

Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 08:18 (nineteen years ago)

...How old is Halford, and how long has he been a practicing card carrying homo? One thing you have to say for him is this: He hasn't gotton AIDS yet. That says something about how careful he is.
I honestly don't agree with or endorse the homosexual lifestyle on any level whatsoever. I think it's immoral and wrong. But...I respect the hell out of Halford as a metal frontman. And I'm glad he doesn't shove his sexual proclivities down our throats.

DJ Mencap (DJ Mencap), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 08:35 (nineteen years ago)

Is there a worse messageboard than Blabbermouth in the entire world?

DJ Mencap (DJ Mencap), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 08:35 (nineteen years ago)

"I'm glad he doesn't shove his sexual proclivities down our throats."

This is almost as good as the time I heard a local newscaster refer to gays and their "in-your-face sexual practices."

Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 08:45 (nineteen years ago)

I had no idea any of those folks other than Halford were gay, and I've interviewed two of 'em. I guess it's my fault for caring mostly about how the record sounds.

pdf (Phil Freeman), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 12:55 (nineteen years ago)

And by the way, I know they're not very active these days, but how did that article get published without even a mention of Accept? "London Leatherboys"? "Head Over Heels"?

pdf (Phil Freeman), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 13:02 (nineteen years ago)

there aint nmo fagsgotz in mentral if they were we'd kick their fag asses!!!

rawkfan6969 (ESTEBAN BUTTEZ~!!!), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 13:03 (nineteen years ago)

xp: Yeah, Phil, I was just a couple minutes ago making the exact same point about Accept in my MTV Urge metal blog! I even linked to "London Leatherboys"'s lyrics before I read your post! (Not to mention Leather Nun and the Skatt Bros.!)

xhuxk (xheddy), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 13:05 (nineteen years ago)

c'mon, guys, accept weren't gay. just way into masculinity.

(didn't the guitarist's wife write all of their lyrics?)

GOD PUNCH TO HAWKWIND (yournullfame), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 13:55 (nineteen years ago)

Yournull: No, you're thinking of Manowar as the "just into machismo" band.

js (honestengine), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 16:55 (nineteen years ago)

Turbonegro and Nudist Priest, immediately report to thread.

Urnst Kouch (Urnst Kouch), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 23:30 (nineteen years ago)

It's a highly entertaining article. I'm curious, Scott, as to why Accept are never mentioned in articles like this however? Was Accept not, after all, overt gay metal, and from the very early 80's?

rattusnorvegicus (ratty!!), Thursday, 17 August 2006 01:50 (nineteen years ago)

An afterthought... Edguy often gets called 'gay power metal' as if it's a genre, but in my opinion that band is metrosexual metal.

rattusnorvegicus (ratty!!), Thursday, 17 August 2006 01:52 (nineteen years ago)

they didn't mention queen either. certainly a huge huge huge influence on metal of all stripes. but, yeah, accept. balls to the wall being one of the gayest metal anthems of all time. dude was stressing the modern scene though. with the exception of rob. but rob is still a big metal presence. accept not so much. i think a case could be made for queen being just as influential as priest as far as modern metal goes. okay, maybe not. but close.

scott seward (scott seward), Thursday, 17 August 2006 02:49 (nineteen years ago)

I totally agree, and I think Rob Halford might too.

rattusnorvegicus (ratty!!), Thursday, 17 August 2006 04:37 (nineteen years ago)

queermetal.net response to thread:

http://www.queermetal.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=166

Pete Scholtes (Pete Scholtes), Friday, 18 August 2006 05:35 (nineteen years ago)

Re queernetal.net: Good to see that even the gay metal guys are splitting hairs (in so many words) between scenes. What'd Lester Bangs say about "beating up the kids from Spain"?

Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Friday, 18 August 2006 08:23 (nineteen years ago)

What did he say? I must have missed it. I didn't get the idea that anything on the Dictators' "Go Girl Crazy" had anything to do with teh gays. And my band played half the songs. My impression -- in de Seventies -- was that it had to do with the knee-jerk desire to beat the 'Ricans. But, y'know, I only lived in eastern Pennsy which was lots closer to the Dics than the King of Cough Syrup. Who lived in Orange County.

So, wha'd Adny Shernoff tell 'im? That "Weekend" was specifically about beating up queers? My ass. You got a citation on that?

Urnst Kouch (Urnst Kouch), Friday, 18 August 2006 11:29 (nineteen years ago)

Or maybe it was just because someone needed a rhyme for "time to go a bit insane!"

Beatin' up the kids from Spain! I'm tired of this social change! Weekend!

Urnst Kouch (Urnst Kouch), Friday, 18 August 2006 11:34 (nineteen years ago)

queermetal.net response to thread:

About five responses, slightly better than what one might expect from the stiffs in a local morgue.

Urnst Kouch (Urnst Kouch), Friday, 18 August 2006 11:42 (nineteen years ago)

The article is a good attempt. I'm glad for it. It's made the site busier.

Christopher Mika (Wagnerian), Wednesday, 23 August 2006 22:05 (nineteen years ago)


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