June 1999

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4 Jamiroquai Canned Heat
13 Shed Seven Disco Down
22 Gay Dad Joy!
21 Underworld Jumbo
14 DJ Sakin & Friends Nomansland (David's Song)
35 Mike & The Mechanics Now That You've Gone
2 Wiseguys Ooh La La
11 Supergrass Pumping On Your Stereo
6 Chicane featuring Maire Brennan of Clannad Saltwater
19 Garbage You Look So Fine
16 21st Century Girls 21st Century Girls
34 Osmonds Crazy Horses (re-issue)
40 Leilani Do You Want Me?
1 Baz Luhrmann Everybody's Free (To Wear Sunscreen)
6 Another Level From The Heart
3 Chemical Brothers Hey Boy Hey Girl
37 Chieftains featuring The Corrs I Know My Love
22 Feeder Insomnia
27 Mauro Picotto Lizard (Gonna Get You)
30 No Doubt New
26 Blondie Nothing Is Real But The Girl
15 Red Hot Chili Peppers Scar Tissue
24 Bjork All Is Full Of Love
12 Cher All Or Nothing C
15 Brandy Almost Doesn't Count
2 Madonna Beautiful Stranger
1 S Club 7 Bring It All Back
7 Cartoons Doodah!
20 Tatyana Ali Everytime
36 Raphael Saadiq & Q-Tip Get Involved
37 My Life Story It's A Girl Thing
33 Next Of Kin More Love
1 Vengaboys Boom Boom Boom Boom
24 Blank & Jones Cream
38 Jewel Down So Long
5 Adam Rickett I Breathe Again
19 Jason Nevins vs Cypress Hill Insane In The Brain
16 Lit My Own Worst Enemy
13 Aerosmith Pink
39 Flaming Lips Race For The Prize
23 Marilyn Manson Rock Is Dead
3 Britney Spears Sometimes
9 N Sync Tearin' Up My Heart
36 Moffats Until You Loved Me

1999 was supposed to be the year that everything changed, but it was such a gradual process you can't really throw out a month to prove so. This seems like the most interesting of months though: My Life Story still having hits a good three years after anyone stopped caring, gay pin-up/saviour of the right Adam Rickett's career high-point, the Moffats and Next of Kin bringing that post-Hanson failed teen-guitariness, the Wiseguys just missing #1, "Maybe you'll dance the funky chicken on your 50th wedding anniversary", and the last Shed Seven song you can actually remember.

Does this month prove anything?

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 08:12 (nineteen years ago)

I got a promo copy of a shed7 single as a prize, "Why can't I be you" (bad title for obvious reasons), the blurb with it was all 'never missed the chart ever' ..

The first time was also the last time.

Suffice to say, yes I cannot remember how it goes.

― mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 08:16 (nineteen years ago)

Heh, "Crazy Horses" beat out one of the first really lame Flaming Lips tracks. There's proof of something there.

xpost

― Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 08:16 (nineteen years ago)

"Race for the Prize" is probably the only FLips track I really like, it seems a good balance between their early "HERE COMES THE WACK-EEE!!!" stuff, and their later Radio 2 drivetime mogadoncore.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 08:19 (nineteen years ago)

Lit really did pave the way...

― Konal Doddz (blueski), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 08:26 (nineteen years ago)

Mmm; I hear "Bad Days" as a better bridge, but I take your point, Dom. I'm enough of a softie that I guess I'm glad they're having a good time, but I don't own anything after "Clouds Taste Metallic."

― Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 08:29 (nineteen years ago)

It's corny but this time was dominated by constant playings of 'Remedy', 'Surrender', 'Beaucoup Fish', 'Rhythm & Stealth' and 'The Middle Of Nowhere'. And I finally managed to get to Glastonbury so memories all tied up with that.

― Konal Doddz (blueski), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 08:31 (nineteen years ago)

1999 was supposed to be the year that everything changed

'Splain?

― DJ Mencap (DJ Mencap), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 08:37 (nineteen years ago)

I think he means 2000; no more years began with "19."

― Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 08:38 (nineteen years ago)

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 08:40 (nineteen years ago)

1999 was supposed to be the year that everything changed

world peace, flying cars, aliens etc.

― Konal Doddz (blueski), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 08:41 (nineteen years ago)

It's somewhat hard to explain, you just get a feeling about 1999 though... I think a lot of people thought "OMG, THE TIDE HAS CHANGED" when "Baby One More Time" stopped "Tender" from getting to number one. Whether they were right or not, I dunno. I nearly chose January 1999 for this thread, but, y'know, no Mauro Picotto no credibility. "Lizard" has been rereleased 2247 times since.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 08:42 (nineteen years ago)

Y'know, one interesting thing about BOMT is that it was such a massive smash that everyone from po-faces like Travis to relative wiseasses like Fountains of Wayne had to respond to it via covers. Certainly not the first nor the last time, but maybe worthy of note in the current context?

― Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 08:49 (nineteen years ago)

yes they did seem to open the terrible terrible floodgates somewhat.

― Konal Doddz (blueski), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 08:51 (nineteen years ago)

'99 - when Moby's 'Play' was still tolerable!

― Konal Doddz (blueski), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 08:51 (nineteen years ago)

this was around the last time i got promos. it was only an 'everything CHANGED' moment for me cos of that. iirc it was this summer that "the timbaland sound" broke in the UK, also uk garage did things speed garage had not done, popwise. the way it felt then was that the uh 'mantle of phuturism' had passed from the post-88 dance heritage and kind of diffused itself.

on the other hand, 'surrender' is the best chemical bros album.

― Bashment Jakes (Enrique), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 08:52 (nineteen years ago)

There's a lot less trance in there (ie two songs) than my ailing memory would have assumed

― DJ Mencap (DJ Mencap), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 08:55 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, my mind had summer 1999 down as the summer of trance as well, but that's not borne out by this. When did Radio 1 stop playing trance anyway, 2001?

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 08:59 (nineteen years ago)

summer 2000 was the absolute pop-trance peak, iirc.

― Bashment Jakes (Enrique), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 09:00 (nineteen years ago)

July '99 saw at least five pop-trance hits in the charts inc. ATB's #1, Alice Deejay's 'Better Off Alone', Gouryella, Yomanda and Space Bros.

― Konal Doddz (blueski), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 09:03 (nineteen years ago)

Although if we go one month hence from this, we get "Better Off Alone", which must be the quintessential pop-trance track, right? Or is that still "Zombie Nation"?

(xp)

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 09:05 (nineteen years ago)

that one track that goes 'get ready for the launch' -- whatever that is, defines summer 2000, for some reason, in my head.

― Bashment Jakes (Enrique), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 09:06 (nineteen years ago)

I'm sorry.

― Konal Doddz (blueski), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 09:07 (nineteen years ago)

2 DJ Jean The Launch Sep 1999

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 09:08 (nineteen years ago)

this is some philip k dick shit.

― Bashment Jakes (Enrique), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 09:40 (nineteen years ago)

man, 1999 sucked a lot.

― wogan lenin (dog latin), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 10:18 (nineteen years ago)

naw, it was great!

― Bashment Jakes (Enrique), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 10:22 (nineteen years ago)

june was especially great.

― Bashment Jakes (Enrique), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 10:22 (nineteen years ago)

2006 is better than 1999, but 1999 was better than both 1998 and 2000.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 10:26 (nineteen years ago)

TS: June 1999 vs Space 1999

― mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 10:32 (nineteen years ago)

2006 is better than 1999, but 1999 was better than both 1998 and 2000.

2000 > 1999 >>>>>>>> 1998

1999, or "wow, has it really been SEVEN YEARS since the beginning/end of Tatyana Ali's career as a recording artist?"

― NoTimeBeforeTime (Barry Bruner), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 10:51 (nineteen years ago)

When I think of '99 I think of Basement Jaxx and "Sweet Like Chocolate" and the first three singles off Destiny's Child's The Writing's on the Wall. I didn't really get into Britney until "(You Drive Me) Crazy" came out so I tend to associate my interest in her with 2000. But yeah the combination of the above basically primed me for a phase of rabid poptimism which sustained me throughout the following 2 years.

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 10:51 (nineteen years ago)

Naturally I disagree with doglatin but this really was a crap month for the top 40. 'Jumbo' is my favourite thing in it, but mainly for the great Tom Middleton mixes.

― Konal Doddz (blueski), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 10:52 (nineteen years ago)

"Jumbo" is awesome in any form.

The songs by Garbage, Chemical Bros, Bjork, Vengaboys, Madonna and Marilyn Manson are also good.

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 11:05 (nineteen years ago)

"21st Century Girls" and "My Own Worst Enemy" are quite a distance ahead of anything else on that list, tbh.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 11:11 (nineteen years ago)

1999 was supposed to be the year that everything changed

The year everything changed has not occured since the mid 80s or something.

The year when all things hip-hop and R&B vanishes completely from the charts will be the year that everything changed.

― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 11:31 (nineteen years ago)

I liked the Raphael Saddiq track quite a bit.

― Konal Doddz (blueski), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 11:34 (nineteen years ago)

1999 < 2000 < 2002 < 1973 < 1967 < 1983

― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 11:37 (nineteen years ago)

1983 is the worst year for music ever, plankton!

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 11:40 (nineteen years ago)

The year when all things hip-hop and R&B vanishes completely from the charts will be the year that everything changed.

You can't argue with that!

― DJ Mencap (DJ Mencap), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 11:41 (nineteen years ago)

Geir Hongro: it's Norwegian for "truth"

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 11:44 (nineteen years ago)

B-b-but Marcello, surely you knew that Depeche Mode's Construction Time Again, featuring rare and pivotal pop-songwriting from Alan Wilder, was released in 1983!

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 11:45 (nineteen years ago)

1999 WAS the year Napster was invented so in that respect perhaps Dom's original statement retains some weight.

The '2s and 7s' theory:

1952 (Elvis)
1962 (Beatlemania begins)
1967 ('summer of love')
1972 ()
1977 (UK punk, Kraftwerk's electro blueprints galvanise)
1982 (hip hop emerges as a major force independent of disco and funk, other music also popular)
1987 (acid house and illegal raves, E culture manifests in mainstream)
1992 (Grunge is everywhere)
1997 (Diana dies and takes Britpop with her, sort of - Hip-hop rules the world, sort of)
2002 (everything from 'mash-ups' to The Strokes hailed as a watershed, by poxy fewls...bah)

2007 ?

(yeah this is bollocks i know)

― Konal Doddz (blueski), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 11:58 (nineteen years ago)

beat me to it -- i had just thought DUH! YEAR NAPSTER BROKE

and thus the year i stopped knowing shit-all.

i have never used p2p.

― Bashment Jakes (Enrique), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 12:00 (nineteen years ago)

1972 ()

bowiemania? glam anyway.

― Bashment Jakes (Enrique), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 12:00 (nineteen years ago)

I love how random some of these year-cycle theories are.

Does anyone remember there was an article back in 2002 arguing some sort of 12 year cycle 1967 - 1979 - 1991 - 2003, and saying that the fact that the peak year was coming round again was evidenced by... Clinic?!?

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 12:10 (nineteen years ago)

Interesting theory about years, except 1982 was more about New Romantics and Synthpop than about hip-hop, which didn't become dominant until years later. (And New Romantics really did start in 1980-81 rather than 1982)

― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 12:10 (nineteen years ago)

sleaze nation, in 1998, had an 11 years theory: 1966-77-88-NEXT YEAR!

― Bashment Jakes (Enrique), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 12:11 (nineteen years ago)

that would mean when 'everything changed' in '99 it would completely change again the following year.

― Konal Doddz (blueski), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 12:17 (nineteen years ago)

no i mean, in 1998, it was NEXT YEAR!

― Bashment Jakes (Enrique), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 12:24 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah it was funny how the longer journalists had to wait for an all-change, the longer they would make the cycle.

You could modify Steve's version into a 15 year cycle:

1962 (beatlemania)
1977 (punk)
1992 (alternative nation)
1997 (panic! at the discoes)

x-post yeah but if it's 66-77-88-99, then surely 00 is also an important year?

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 12:26 (nineteen years ago)

beatlemania didn't start till 63/4 really... but then i don't understand the rest of tim's list either! australian i guess.

66-77-88-99-10 -- it's an eleven year cycle.

― Bashment Jakes (Enrique), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 12:30 (nineteen years ago)

I'm still awaiting a satisfactory explanation of what actually changed in 1999.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 12:39 (nineteen years ago)

-napster broke
-the timbaland sound broke
-blur failed to get to number one with an eight minute long break-up dirge

― Bashment Jakes (Enrique), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 12:40 (nineteen years ago)

which is more than what happened in 1977.

― Bashment Jakes (Enrique), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 12:40 (nineteen years ago)

Napster, fair enough.
The other two are irrelevant.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 12:42 (nineteen years ago)

"beatlemania didn't start till 63/4 really... but then i don't understand the rest of tim's list either! australian i guess."

I don't believe in my list! Just hypothesising about what this year's articles will claim.

Punk = Punk
"Alternative Nation" = shorthand for grunge going overground
"Panic! At The Discoes" = populist bouncy emo

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 12:50 (nineteen years ago)

1999 didn't change because of Timbaland, in the same way that 1982 didn't change because of Trevor Horn.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 12:55 (nineteen years ago)

"Panic! At The Discoes" = populist bouncy emo

we had very different 1997s! i don't think i heard the word 'emo' till like 2001.

― Bashment Jakes (Enrique), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 13:05 (nineteen years ago)

i think we've demonstrated conclusively that EVERYTHING is going to CHANGE either next year or in 2011.

― Konal Doddz (blueski), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 13:38 (nineteen years ago)

actually that Mayan-Prophesized Apocalypse IS scheduled for 2012...

― Konal Doddz (blueski), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 13:39 (nineteen years ago)

by which time Mel Gibson will be back making Lethal Weapon movies.

― Konal Doddz (blueski), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 13:39 (nineteen years ago)

As Robbie Williams reminded us in 1993: "Everything changes but YOU!"

We would do well to listen to the wisdom of Robbie.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 13:47 (nineteen years ago)

SHAKE YER RUDEBOX

― Konal Doddz (blueski), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 13:52 (nineteen years ago)

"
"Panic! At The Discoes" = populist bouncy emo

we had very different 1997s! i don't think i heard the word 'emo' till like 2001."

ah sorry I meant 2007! 15 years b/w 1992 and 2007

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 14:07 (nineteen years ago)

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