Egregiously Revisionist Hyperbole on AllMusic

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Vying with Minor Threat for the title of "The Godfathers of Hardcore" are Gorilla Biscuits...Start Today is a terrific representation of the beginnings of hardcore music, and for those involved in the scene it is certainly required listening

Fuckin' AS IF! Look, I've got nothing against Gorllia Biscuits, but calling them the "Godfathers of Hardcore" is like saying Poison invented Glam Rock. And "the beginnings of hardcore music"? Hell, hardcore was already in its sickly death throes by 1985, and Start Today didn't even come out until `89.

HUMBUG!

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 14:44 (nineteen years ago)

Heya Alex.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 14:50 (nineteen years ago)

it's a new generational perspective. Gorilla Biscuits were probably way more influentual on the actual sound of what hardcore, er, straight edge would become, at least in the suburbs.

― Alicia Titsovich (sexyDancer), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 14:52 (nineteen years ago)

I've got something against the Gorilla Biscuits and it's that awful name!

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 14:53 (nineteen years ago)

Now we're talking!

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 14:55 (nineteen years ago)

it's a new generational perspective. Gorilla Biscuits were probably way more influentual on the actual sound of what hardcore, er, straight edge would become, at least in the suburbs.

That doesn't render the statement any less inaccurate.

Hiya, Ned!

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 14:56 (nineteen years ago)

Hey guys.

― Ruud Haarvest (Ken L), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 14:57 (nineteen years ago)

hey ruud. hey ned. hey alex

― winter testing (winter testing), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 15:25 (nineteen years ago)

Minor Threat beat them in terms of general EDGE music. The Biscuits were a bit too suburban and spawned lots of shithead Victory Records types who are much too macho and serious.

But, uh, the best American hardcore bands are the Germs and the Dead Kennedy's.

― trees (treesessplode), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 15:28 (nineteen years ago)

hey trees

― winter testing (winter testing), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 15:29 (nineteen years ago)

The statement remains inaccurate, Alex is right.

GB might have defined "88 style" or "NE suburban", or even "straightedge hardcore"*, but certainly not "hardcore" as an all encompassing genre, and the "beginnings of hardcore" comment is pure nonsense.

*GB didn't start straightedge, and there were plenty of bands before them who had X's. however, the argument that the sxe scene didn't really take off until after 88, and that more straightedge clone bands from the late 80s and early 90s list GB over say, crucial youth as an influence is an argument that's worthy. Minor threat started the straightedge spark, but it was GB that made it a scene and a sound.

― P1 (xcxre9), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 15:34 (nineteen years ago)

Does Peter J. D'Angelo,the author of that dubious hyperbole write anywhere else but Allmusic? I wonder how he got the hardcore niche there (google shows him reviewing a Pennywise cd for AllMusic).

― curmudgeon (DC Steve), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 15:40 (nineteen years ago)

Hi Alex good to see you posting again.

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 15:48 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah Alex. You rock ass.

― Mr. Snrub (Mr. Snrub), Thursday, 17 August 2006 00:11 (nineteen years ago)

History is a disgusting process.

― A Viking of Some Note (Andrew Thames), Thursday, 17 August 2006 00:14 (nineteen years ago)

"Egregiously", now THERE'S a hot word.

― A Viking of Some Note (Andrew Thames), Thursday, 17 August 2006 00:18 (nineteen years ago)

...Attila undoubtedly is the worst album released in the history of rock & roll — hell, the history of recorded music itself...colossal stupidity...heavy rock organ-and-drums...an atrocious combination...an unbearable, unholy noise...organ with piles of effects pedals, Leslie organs, distortion, and wah-wah...yells, not sings...flails away haplessly at his drums...impossible to make out the riffs...organ just sounds like a wall of white noise...no melodies, only shouting. Everything is turned to 11...style...instrumentation, attack, and effects never change...as if a drill has punctured the center of your skull...piercing, painful, and monotonous..."psychedelic bullshit." Remove the word "psychedelic" and you have an accurate description of the album...dressed as Huns on the cover...standing in a meat locker...the most ridiculous album package in rock & roll history.

Stephen Thomas Erlewine

!!!

― Myonga Von Bombast (Monty Von Byonga), Thursday, 17 August 2006 07:00 (nineteen years ago)

It's an album to build a career upon, which would be a remarkable achievement by any measure, but coming after the near career suicide of Stripped, it's all the more impressive.

also stephen thomas erlewine.

― you want pastrami? (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, 17 August 2006 07:24 (nineteen years ago)

Hahahaha yeah, I just read that like WTF?

― Marmot (marmotwolof), Thursday, 17 August 2006 07:25 (nineteen years ago)

(That album sold 12 million worldwide FFS)

― Marmot (marmotwolof), Thursday, 17 August 2006 07:27 (nineteen years ago)

...I mean, Jesus Christ, Erlewine: How can anyone read that and NOT want to hear Attila immediately?! I know I did.

― Monty Von Byonga (Monty Von Byonga), Thursday, 17 August 2006 07:41 (nineteen years ago)

I haven't heard Attila, but now I want to download it! It's Billy Joel, right?

― Marmot (marmotwolof), Thursday, 17 August 2006 07:45 (nineteen years ago)

This is what reporting on Hillary Duff for MTV does to a man.

― Domenico Buttez (ESTEBAN BUTTEZ~!!!), Thursday, 17 August 2006 08:21 (nineteen years ago)

Every time I read that review I want to hear that Attila album more. Hell, I want to compare it side-by-side with other bands named Attila (there's at least one other, some ultra-obscure prog act).

― pdf (Phil Freeman), Thursday, 17 August 2006 10:39 (nineteen years ago)

Here's a small clip of Billy Joel talking about Attila!

http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=A311E187637572A0

Amplifier Fire is a nice song to start with.

― Torgeir Hansen (MRZBW), Thursday, 17 August 2006 11:25 (nineteen years ago)

fourteen years pass...

not AllMusic themselves, but this person named "S1mon3 Appolon1" seems to have reviewed just about every metal album out there and seems to also have the worst taste in metal that has ever existed.

― Filibuster Poindexter (Neanderthal), Friday, 30 April 2021 23:02 (four years ago)

(they're a user, but it seems like they spent all of 2018 writing user reviews)

― Filibuster Poindexter (Neanderthal), Friday, 30 April 2021 23:02 (four years ago)

So what kind of stuff does he like/dislike?

― Siegbran, Friday, 30 April 2021 23:36 (four years ago)

they don't seem to like anything, lol....it's not a big deal, just find it funny that literally every time I've looked up a metal album on AllMusic, there's their review.

here's their page - almost everything is one or two stars, I think Borknagar and Lacuna Coil scored 3 stars lol

https://www.allmusic.com/profile/gybo_96/

― Filibuster Poindexter (Neanderthal), Saturday, 1 May 2021 00:27 (four years ago)

Siegbran, why hast thou abandoned the rolling metal threads? Your presence is missed.

― pomenitul, Saturday, 1 May 2021 00:36 (four years ago)

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