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Is anybody else following this on Youtube?

Imagine Detroit kids breaking to bass tracks in their mom's basement in front of a 200 dollar minidv camera. The beats and the dances are dope. The Chicago people are talking about Footwork but they don't have the breaking, the groundwork, or the locking that the jit scene has. Check it out:

X-Menn:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QF3TTrHLIRE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1heEvFW6Gic

Linwood Crew:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a7ZkF7HiPso

Devonaire:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oN-JgUyQrxc

DJ Hollow Interview:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75M8PlOoMrA

Mr. So Seductive:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bpr4S19rZoQ

Jit battle for 105.9fm:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DP2K5XZxwM4

― Disco Nihilist (mjt), Sunday, 20 August 2006 00:48 (nineteen years ago)

I think that finally made the last month of ILM worth it. Awesome.

― bad hair day house (fandango), Sunday, 20 August 2006 01:11 (nineteen years ago)

These are totally great. What is the connection to the chicken noodle soup/toe wop/tone wop stuff happening in Harlem? Is there one? Youtube has tons of clips of that, and nobody on ILX seems interested (unless I've missed the threads, in which case sorry, but "Chicken Noodle Soup" by DJ Webstar featuring Young B is still my single of the year, I think). (Also, what is the Chicago stuff called? This is the first I've heard of that. I'm so out of it.)

― xhuxk (xheddy), Sunday, 20 August 2006 01:20 (nineteen years ago)

haha there's a whole youtube scene for this for baltimore club too. (do a search for "club" or "baltimore" or check the baltimore thread on the noize board...i can't be bothered to dig up all the links i posted there already.) the best part is that there might be eastside/westside dance beef! i guess every regional dance scene in the country had the same idea at the same time?!

― PARTYMAN (dubplatestyle), Sunday, 20 August 2006 01:22 (nineteen years ago)

okay so it wasn't that hard to look up

Baltimore

(i have found a TON more since then.)

― PARTYMAN (dubplatestyle), Sunday, 20 August 2006 01:26 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=chicken+noodle+soup&search=Search

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_type=search_videos&search_sort=relevance&search_query=toe+wop&search=Search

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_type=search_videos&search_sort=relevance&search_query=tone+wop&search=Search

― xhuxk (xheddy), Sunday, 20 August 2006 01:37 (nineteen years ago)

xxxpost - i haven't watched these videos yet, but jess posted these in the noize baltimore thread.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=hTYL6XNA4H0&mode=related&search=B-MORE
http://youtube.com/watch?v=tzdUwtAzjSA&mode=related&search=B-MORE
http://youtube.com/watch?v=czR0KiQhFLk&mode=related&search=B-MORE
http://youtube.com/watch?v=WHmcddLNIpw&search=Baltimore
http://youtube.com/watch?v=555ncN5CXIU&search=Baltimore
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ynF6iy_LZk

― jaxon (jaxon), Sunday, 20 August 2006 01:41 (nineteen years ago)

DN, whatupdoe?

Some Detroit-related historical context:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OtIPD5lbsx8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ogJx2WlrvKU
http://www.thescenedetroit.com/1149222.html

― Andy_K (Andy_K), Sunday, 20 August 2006 01:51 (nineteen years ago)

One Detroit-Baltimore link: "Doo Doo Brown" was huge in and around Detroit.

― Andy_K (Andy_K), Sunday, 20 August 2006 01:53 (nineteen years ago)

it's all hip-house at the end of the day y'all

― PARTYMAN (dubplatestyle), Sunday, 20 August 2006 04:26 (nineteen years ago)

Best thread in a while. This stuff is great. (Though I just got a horrifying image of what the Irvine equivalent would be.)

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 20 August 2006 04:35 (nineteen years ago)

Faily in-depth article with a mention of "MetroPlex's 'No UFOs'":

http://www.detroitdepot.net/depot/jit.php

― Andy_K (Andy_K), Sunday, 20 August 2006 07:43 (nineteen years ago)

Fairly, that is.

― Andy_K (Andy_K), Sunday, 20 August 2006 07:49 (nineteen years ago)

linwood clip 2 sounds like ltj bukem

― the art ensemble of chicago house (vahid), Sunday, 20 August 2006 08:42 (nineteen years ago)

Thank you, this thread made my week!

― Ice Cream Electric (Ice Cream Electric), Sunday, 20 August 2006 13:58 (nineteen years ago)

do the"turtle on your back.. arms and legs wiggling" and "push up position" dances actually work in a club?? I'm thinking these must be strictly mom's living room/basement permutations, because who in their right mind would touch a club floor with anything but their feet?? I guess if the groove takes you there you can't hold back.. but ew!

― Spruce Joints (soulex45), Sunday, 20 August 2006 14:51 (nineteen years ago)

The Detroit drive time DJs are dropping Baltimore club tracks these days in with the usual D-town ghettotech. "Hey big girl!"

― Jeff Sumner (Jeff Sumner), Tuesday, 22 August 2006 22:11 (nineteen years ago)

The Jit tracks sound to electro to be ghettotech. What are they?

― Whiney G. Weingarten (whineyg), Wednesday, 23 August 2006 03:06 (nineteen years ago)

The first innovators of this new type of ‘jitting' were the 'Errol Flynns’, east side of Detroit’s most notorious gang, who gathered at full capacity with common-folk in basement parties and clubs, skylarking their signature hand signs called the ‘Errol Flynn’.

that sentence is like a whole new frontier of cool.

― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Wednesday, 23 August 2006 03:30 (nineteen years ago)

(Though I just got a horrifying image of what the Irvine equivalent would be.)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aacY_4jI7BQ
http://youtube.com/watch?v=SVc0OJMOKnU
http://youtube.com/watch?v=yjaC6EtR_BU

― tylero (tylero), Wednesday, 23 August 2006 04:02 (nineteen years ago)

The Jit tracks sound to electro to be ghettotech. What are they? Mostly Twilight 76 affiliated stuff:

http://www.discogs.com/label/Twilight+76+Records

especially:

http://www.discogs.com/label/D.E.T.+Only

― tylero (tylero), Wednesday, 23 August 2006 04:04 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.discogs.com/release/512942

― Andy_K (Andy_K), Wednesday, 23 August 2006 11:12 (nineteen years ago)

Who shall be the Disco D of jit?

― Whiney G. Weingarten (whineyg), Wednesday, 23 August 2006 11:56 (nineteen years ago)

probably all the baltimore club carpetbaggers once they get bored

― PARTYMAN (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 23 August 2006 12:09 (nineteen years ago)

hollertronix presents the jitjizzle blendizzle

― PARTYMAN (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 23 August 2006 12:10 (nineteen years ago)

Anyone see Flex N Brooklyn on Brooklyn Public Access?

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=47794860
this girl and others host a show where dance troupes meet anywhere from the VFW to big clubs in manhattan and do this combination of breaking/popping/stepping/I don't know what else and it's pretty off the hook. The boys particularly dance to this homemade music that mixes new hip hop hits, dance classics and tons of samples from movies like Robocop and Terminator and Total Recall, and most of the dance moves seem to mimic Anime movies.

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Wednesday, 23 August 2006 13:21 (nineteen years ago)

here's some:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Jxo7WHaNvg

but usually it's bigger, amazing group choreography stuff

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Wednesday, 23 August 2006 13:25 (nineteen years ago)

OMG WHERE'D SCOOBY'S HEAD GO?!

― jaxon (jaxon), Wednesday, 23 August 2006 13:35 (nineteen years ago)

probably all the baltimore club carpetbaggers once they get bored
-- PARTYMAN (wt...), August 23rd, 2006 9:09 AM. (link)

Partyman, you're such a Grumposaurus Rex

― oh, wrinklepaws! (Wrinklepaws), Wednesday, 23 August 2006 13:39 (nineteen years ago)

There's gonna be a movie about Jit in Detroit: Footwork

― js (honestengine), Wednesday, 23 August 2006 15:47 (nineteen years ago)

I am so having Rubber Johnny flashbacks right now.

― Brakhage (brakhage), Wednesday, 23 August 2006 23:24 (nineteen years ago)

is it bad if i think this is sorta wack?

― the art ensemble of chicago house (vahid), Thursday, 24 August 2006 00:19 (nineteen years ago)

do we really need to big up every last mediocre regional rap scene / teenage dance craze just for existing?? (second comment down says it all)

― the art ensemble of chicago house (vahid), Thursday, 24 August 2006 00:32 (nineteen years ago)

you're more mercurial than any of these pro-pop motherfuckers!

― PARTYMAN (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 24 August 2006 00:36 (nineteen years ago)

ok first of all a couple good e-40 tracks and a couple good youngstarz tracks does not equal HYPHY MOVEMENT WORLDWIDE 2006

see also unlistenable 80 minute snap music / baltimore club / baile funk mixtapes with three anthems and 70 minutes of boredom ...

aka OH WOW streets rap / obscuro rap is prone to the same failings as mainstream / commercial rap.

scenius vs zzzzzenius

― the art ensemble of chicago house (vahid), Thursday, 24 August 2006 00:42 (nineteen years ago)

haha how does this square with your love of inane banging techno?

― PARTYMAN (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 24 August 2006 00:44 (nineteen years ago)

seriously these jit / hyphy videos aren't any more or less boring than videos of korean kids in WST / tribal / LRG throwing down to the incredible bongo band or jimmy castor - which is to say it's pretty boring.

there've basically been three major innovations in breakdancing in the last 20 years and those have been 1) crip walking 2) dave elsewhere and 3) over-serious suburban kids w/ time + money (see #2) and this stuff basically addresses #1 while losing the ambition of #2 and #3 and it has a slightly better soundtrack SO WHAT?

― the art ensemble of chicago house (vahid), Thursday, 24 August 2006 00:49 (nineteen years ago)

it's all hip-house at the end of the day y'all
-- PARTYMAN

― PARTYMAN (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 24 August 2006 00:51 (nineteen years ago)

regional rap lacks the sexy ideological rigor of rotterdam hardcore.

― the art ensemble of chicago house (vahid), Thursday, 24 August 2006 00:54 (nineteen years ago)

flirting fascism >> flirting via youtube

― the art ensemble of chicago house (vahid), Thursday, 24 August 2006 00:55 (nineteen years ago)

also this jit music sounds suspiciously like aux 88 w/ rap samples

― the art ensemble of chicago house (vahid), Thursday, 24 August 2006 00:56 (nineteen years ago)

Feelin Their Thizzle
How the culture of Ecstasy has changed as the drug moved from raves to hip-hop.
http://www.eastbayexpress.com/Issues/2006-03-15/news/feature_full.html

― consigliere (consigliere), Thursday, 24 August 2006 02:59 (nineteen years ago)

OMG B-BOYS ON E SO 98

― the art ensemble of chicago house (vahid), Thursday, 24 August 2006 03:01 (nineteen years ago)

why'd vahid have to go ruin another thread? Haven't we discussed this already? You're supposed to start a NEW thread called The Detroit Jit Scene...(haters thread).

Anyway, I've seen groups on Flex-N-Brooklyn do shit above and beyond any of these clips, I just can't believe none of it is on youtube. There's like, 5 vids of kids doing solo Tut-ing in front of TVs which are always turned on, but none of the 5 man choreographed Robocop live-action Anime Breakdancing I used to watch every friday night on brooklyn public acccess.

Hell, they even gave me a shout out in one of their episodes after someone called my name in!

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Thursday, 24 August 2006 05:00 (nineteen years ago)

Why didn't my hometown have a dance scene :(

― Whiney G. Weingarten (whineyg), Thursday, 24 August 2006 06:15 (nineteen years ago)

ruin a thread? ruin a thread?

― the art ensemble of chicago house (vahid), Thursday, 24 August 2006 06:30 (nineteen years ago)

to get this thread back on track, more essential hottness:
http://tinyurl.com/qh7gh

― oh, wrinklepaws! (Wrinklepaws), Thursday, 24 August 2006 11:12 (nineteen years ago)

I think somebody has been sippin on:

http://images.google.com/images?q=tbn:1oysqcLv9z1M9M:http://static.flickr.com/1/38082_96b4e7313c_m.jpg

― Disco Nihilist (mjt), Thursday, 24 August 2006 16:14 (nineteen years ago)

Hello everyone. I'd like to briefly clear up some info for everyone here. First, Detroit invented techno, there is no question here even for Chicago house people. Detroit techno/electro came first and started the whole electronic dance movement from kraftwek. Next as far the dance of Jit. This dance grew up with Techno and it is no wonder why these clips include fast pace electro, aux 88 beats and the like... this is the music done to this dance!

As far as this post goes:

"here've basically been three major innovations in break dancing in the last 20 years and those have been 1) crip walking 2) dave elsewhere and 3) over-serious suburban kids w/ time + money (see #2) and this stuff basically addresses #1 while losing the ambition of #2 and #3 and it has a slightly better soundtrack SO WHAT?"

Breakdance, david elsewhere and crip walking have nothing to do with each other. Nothing. This is basic, basic information that could be googled.

While Chicago may have this dance called footwork or juke, it really lacks history, style, and innovation in comparison to Detroit jit. I may be biased, but the jitters in Detroit can do some amazing things. Half of these clips are just people fooling around, when a true cypher comes out that is when these groups showcase their best.

Remember Popping, Locking, bboying(breakdance), Jit, etc are all completely DIFFERENT dances.

Peace

― Nick R (nick124567), Monday, 28 August 2006 22:19 (nineteen years ago)

i love that comment that's all "man the gas prices were pretty low when this video was made." in the video vahid linked to.

― firstworldman (firstworldman), Monday, 28 August 2006 22:47 (nineteen years ago)

nick r you r a jackass

― the art ensemble of chicago house (vahid), Monday, 28 August 2006 23:11 (nineteen years ago)

peace

― the art ensemble of chicago house (vahid), Monday, 28 August 2006 23:12 (nineteen years ago)

jit fite

― hippo eats dwarlf (lfam), Tuesday, 29 August 2006 00:12 (nineteen years ago)

This is basic, basic information that could be googled.

― mr. brojangles (sanskrit), Tuesday, 29 August 2006 00:52 (nineteen years ago)

ilm is basic information that could be googled.

― PappaWheelie, Olives, Red Wine, Coffee, Scotch, and Me (PappaWheelie 2), Tuesday, 29 August 2006 01:35 (nineteen years ago)

chicago house Why?

― Nick R (nick124567), Tuesday, 29 August 2006 02:02 (nineteen years ago)

why?! why?! why?!

http://heatherw.com/mk/pics/events/sttb/nancy2.jpg

― PappaWheelie, Olives, Red Wine, Coffee, Scotch, and Me (PappaWheelie 2), Tuesday, 29 August 2006 02:16 (nineteen years ago)

some more regional dance steps.

Philly & South Jersey's WuTang
http://youtube.com/results?search_query=wu+tang+dance+philly&search=Search
http://www.philadelphiaweekly.com/view.php?id=12826

and Atlanta's Poole Palace
http://youtube.com/results?search_query=poole+palace&search=Search

― jaxon (jaxon), Wednesday, 30 August 2006 05:07 (nineteen years ago)

two weeks pass...

Doing the chicken noodle soup dance in an Introduction to Ethnomusicology class---

http://soulimperialist.blogspot.com/2006/09/pedagogical-utilizations-of-chicken.html

― curmudgeon (DC Steve), Friday, 15 September 2006 17:04 (nineteen years ago)

that chicken noodle soup dance is cool!

why is it called "chicken noodle soup"?

― M@tt He1geson: Real Name, No Gimmicks (Matt Helgeson), Friday, 15 September 2006 17:48 (nineteen years ago)

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