via Mark Prindle's site, which has a new interview with the man...
Prindle:
"So how did a bearded, long-haired hippie guy like you get into punk in the first place?"
Troccoli:
"Well, I thank you for asking as this is one of my fave topics. I have ALWAYS been in love with things Punk, even before Punk had a label. I tend to think of Punk as an attitude rather than a musical style. With that understanding, I think of guys like Lightnin' Hopkins who needed to play so badly that his first guitar was a broom handle jammed into a cigar box with a single string as being Punk. Picasso, who started as the most talented draftsman of his day, chucked it all to follow his own oddball muse and changed the art world for all time, I consider to be Punk. Hunter Thompson running for Sheriff of Aspen, that's Punk. Beefheart, Zappa, Sun Ra, all PUNK! Early Alice Cooper, even the earliest Grateful Dead is incredibly PUNK! Punk I think has always been here, and will always be here as long as there are artists and their followers available to blaze new trails of artistic expression. The first guy or gal to dip a twig in animal blood and smear an image on a cave wall was punk. All these folks truly were DIY! That being said, my first exposure to Punk Rock MUSIC was unforgettable. A band I was hanging with in 1977-78 was playing a place on a Sunday night called Blackie's. We drove down a night earlier to scope the place out some, and on stage were FEAR and an Black Flag. I had already HEARD some of this Punk Rock on the local airwaves, and of course had been seeing the safety-pinned cheek crew wandering the boulevards, but this was a whole different kettle of fish. The bands were loud, obnoxious, and extraordinarily talented - especially FEAR who to me sounded like they were playing stuff as complicated as Zappa's. If I had stumbled into a lousy bands' gig I probably would never have gone to another, but these bands were so awesome I NEEDED to investigate more. That led me to The Bags, the Urinals, The Germs, X, and so many others. I don't actually consider myself to be a fan of Punk Rock music, but I did see that there was at long last an opportunity for weirdos like me to finally make some headway in getting our stuff at least heard. That was the real gift. Little kids who never picked up anything more musical than a transistor radio were all of a sudden becoming 'The Omlits' and writing about things like "I Don't Watch TV Since They Cancelled James At 16." Yes, that was a real band, and that was a real song. Most of it was utter crap, but it was REAL, and it was THERE!"
― sleeve version 2.0 (sleeve testing), Wednesday, 30 August 2006 03:15 (nineteen years ago)
"James At 16"... man, I haven't thought about that show since like 1983.
― sleeve version 2.0 (sleeve testing), Wednesday, 30 August 2006 03:15 (nineteen years ago)
this interview is so entertaining... Tom also sez that Raymond Pettibone started Black Flag!
and one more great quote...
"Well I was already hanging out in LA doing a lot of punk rock shows and hanging out in the punk rock scene, and in those days punk rock was not what it became. This is the pre-Germs era punk rock I’m talking about. In the pre-Germs era punk rock, punk rockers weren’t 17 years old; punk rockers were 27 years old. There were people like Alice Bag, John Doe from X.... these guys were all older guys. And Greg Ginn is a year older than me, Dukowski I think is two years older than me, even the guys in Black Flag... all of the original punk rock bands were actually older guys who were more like disenfranchised hippies who felt like the hippie dream sold them out down the line, so they decided to reclaim some of it while at the same time being very angry towards hippies. So I was already hanging out seeing all these guys my age making crazy music that was really inspired by Frank Zappa and Captain Beefheart, which was always more my speed anyhow, and so I fell into it."
― sleeve version 2.0 (sleeve testing), Wednesday, 30 August 2006 03:57 (nineteen years ago)
weird, I was just reading Troccoli on Prindle's site last night (Troccoli posted a comment to Prindle's Nig Heist review...)
― Stormy Davis (diamond), Wednesday, 30 August 2006 03:59 (nineteen years ago)
Yeah I read that interview a few days ago, funny how all those guys hate each other now!
Didn't Tom Trocolli turn up on a thread on ILM once?
― Colonel Poo (Colonel Poo), Wednesday, 30 August 2006 06:48 (nineteen years ago)
yeah, he's on the TS: Flag vocalists thread.
― kit brash (kit brash), Wednesday, 30 August 2006 06:58 (nineteen years ago)