Nu Janet - "So Excited"

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have you head it ? best thing she's done in a decade

― Vichitravirya XI (Vichitravirya XI), Thursday, 14 September 2006 12:14 (nineteen years ago)

almost great enough to negate the damage of "Damita Jo"

― Vichitravirya XI (Vichitravirya XI), Thursday, 14 September 2006 12:14 (nineteen years ago)

I don't really like the single - there's hardly a tune there to speak of.

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Thursday, 14 September 2006 12:24 (nineteen years ago)

remember when she used to sound like nobody else?

― Konal Doddz (blueski), Thursday, 14 September 2006 12:25 (nineteen years ago)

Except her brother.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Thursday, 14 September 2006 12:25 (nineteen years ago)

best thing she's done in a decade

wow, that good?

― a rapper singing about hos and bitches and money (Enrique), Thursday, 14 September 2006 12:27 (nineteen years ago)

Janet's done some amazing things in the past decade though:

"Empty"
"You"
"Doesn't Really Matter"
"All 4 U"
"Someone To Call My Lover"
"All Nite (Don't Stop)"

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Thursday, 14 September 2006 12:31 (nineteen years ago)

I don't know, I just like the bludgeoning mammoth-like hook that her non-voice rides in style, like days of old. It's kinda remniscient of "All Nite," now that I think about it. The video is fun, and a direct reference to her b00b controversy with her clothes disappearing - as her arm covers her tits - and then reappearing.

Mind you, I think most of what she's done post Velvet Rope is complete shit, so me saying this is "the best" prolly = faint praise

Tim, I'd say the first single with Nelly, "Çall on Me" was the tuneless puddle. It failed instaneously, and then she releases this like a few weeks later. Sure you're not confusing them ? =)

― Vichitravirya XI (Vichitravirya XI), Thursday, 14 September 2006 12:35 (nineteen years ago)

x-post - I thought "Someone to Call My Lover" was adequate at the time, and "Sexhibition" is a guilty pleasure, but aside from "All Nite" and maybe her part in that 1999 Busta single her quality control seemed to have dropped post VR.

"You" is one of her best written songs, and VR in general was an under-rated album. Much stronger than "janet"

― Vichitravirya XI (Vichitravirya XI), Thursday, 14 September 2006 12:37 (nineteen years ago)

I liked 'Feel It Boy' (was this her only Neptunes-produced track?)

― Konal Doddz (blueski), Thursday, 14 September 2006 12:38 (nineteen years ago)

oh yeah that was ok.

― a rapper singing about hos and bitches and money (Enrique), Thursday, 14 September 2006 12:40 (nineteen years ago)

i haven't heard the nu janet but 'all nite (don't stop)' is a real Lost Pop Gem.

― The Lex (The Lex), Thursday, 14 September 2006 12:41 (nineteen years ago)

I was talking about the Nelly collab-o upthread, sorry.

Actually there was a really great unreleased (or, like, Japan-only) Neptunes-produced Janet track from 2001 called "Who" - search!

And don't sleep on the remix of "All Nite (Don't Stop)" with Elephant Man!

"Feel It Boy" was good but not as good as "Girls Dem Suga".

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Thursday, 14 September 2006 12:45 (nineteen years ago)

Haha Tim I just knew you had to be talkin bout the wrong song - or else it would have broken the years-old mind-meld between your, mine and Lex's tastes (nice job on the JT review btw, but kinda unexpected to see your name gracing the 'Fork)

I'd really like to get yr opinion on "So Excited," - the video is all over You Tube. I never heard those Neptune tracks or the All Nite remix, but she seemed to miss the boat on really reaching out to other producers outside her Jam & Lewis safety net...way back in the mid-90s, when she could've taken advantage of Missy or Timbaland, if she wanted to. But in a strange way, I admire her "loyalty" - rare in pop, for that long - or tenacity towards (keeping) J&L. It's sort of an unspoken acknowledgment that they're a steadfast team.

― Vichitravirya XI (Vichitravirya XI), Thursday, 14 September 2006 12:54 (nineteen years ago)

Although ironically it's rarely acknowledged that The Velvet Rope featured perhaps the first non-Timbaland tracks to start jocking the late 90s R&B sound in a major way, J&L were nothing if not canny in that regard - I still think "Empty" is an unprecedented and unrepeated masterpiece.

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Thursday, 14 September 2006 12:58 (nineteen years ago)

The almost faux-Asian ethereality of the opening xylophone (?) notes of Empty always made that song stand out for me, and that's before the glitch-like beats click in. It's a pared down Bjork song without Bjork's excessive instrumentation. It also gains in power by its juxtapositioning with the explosive "What About" right afterwards.

The whole album is so well-written compared to what she did just before and afterwards. "You" sounds especially powerful if you imagine it being addressed to her brother, as some suggested. Why can't she get all angsty again?

― Vichitravirya XI (Vichitravirya XI), Thursday, 14 September 2006 13:08 (nineteen years ago)

This new one incidentally begins with the same sort of clicking clock sound that reminds one of "Hung Up" or that Gwen single

― Vichitravirya XI (Vichitravirya XI), Thursday, 14 September 2006 13:11 (nineteen years ago)

If this has anything better than "Doesn't Really Matter", I will be overjoyed.

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 14 September 2006 13:17 (nineteen years ago)

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