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"It was the worst retirement in history"

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― gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 14 September 2006 16:56 (nineteen years ago)

What's (still) up with hip-hop's fascination with Chris Martin?

― Josh in Chicago (Josh in Chicago), Thursday, 14 September 2006 17:03 (nineteen years ago)

maybe he's the nu Phil Collins?

― gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 14 September 2006 17:04 (nineteen years ago)

Hova and Phil covering "Easy Lover" would be bliss.

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Thursday, 14 September 2006 17:08 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.people.carleton.edu/~tonksn/aronofsky/images/injection2.jpg

― gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 14 September 2006 17:13 (nineteen years ago)

hova should have done the "in the air tonight" cover for miami vice

― gear (gear), Thursday, 14 September 2006 17:13 (nineteen years ago)

LOL at "Beach Chair."

― danzig (danzig), Thursday, 14 September 2006 17:25 (nineteen years ago)

hahha "beach chair" i wonder if all his new material is culled from his retirment.

"Beach Chair"
"Nothing Beats a Hot Cup of Tea and the NY Times Crossword in the Morning"
"Sandals Really Let Your Feet Breathe, You Know?"
"I Really Should Mow The Lawn, But I Just Got Season Two of Entourage"
"Beyonce, Can You Answer That?"
"I Finally Have Time to Catch Up on My Reading"
"I Fucking Told You, I Don't Care Where We Get Takeout From!"
"God, My DSL at Home Sucks"

― M@tt He1geson: Real Name, No Gimmicks (Matt Helgeson), Thursday, 14 September 2006 17:50 (nineteen years ago)

hahahaha

― Raymond Cummings (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 14 September 2006 17:55 (nineteen years ago)

"I Fucking Told You, I Don't Care Where We Get Takeout From!"

dying here

― Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Thursday, 14 September 2006 17:57 (nineteen years ago)

"6 Hours Straight of Minesweeper, I Wish Someone Would Call Me"

― katie quirk (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 14 September 2006 17:59 (nineteen years ago)

"Fuck a Netflix and Scratched DVDs"
"Dust Off Your Scarface Poster"

― David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 14 September 2006 18:01 (nineteen years ago)

"George Bush Doesn't Care About My Tech Portfolio"

― James.Cobo (jamescobo), Thursday, 14 September 2006 19:18 (nineteen years ago)

"99 Problems but Lawn Care Ain't One"

― Danny Aioli (Rock Hardy), Thursday, 14 September 2006 19:21 (nineteen years ago)

"(Can I Get A) Prescription Voucher?"

― James.Cobo (jamescobo), Thursday, 14 September 2006 19:37 (nineteen years ago)

"Big Nappin'"
"99 Problems (And Gettin' Out This Chair Is One)"
"Jigga My Ah Forget It"
"Slow Clock Strife"
"Dead Presidents (Wish I Was One)"
"Money, Cash, Ennui"

― Edward III (edward iii), Thursday, 14 September 2006 19:48 (nineteen years ago)

"Change Clothes."

― max (maxreax), Thursday, 14 September 2006 19:58 (nineteen years ago)

"Beyonce, Can You Answer That?"

Still my favorite.

― Edward III (edward iii), Thursday, 14 September 2006 19:58 (nineteen years ago)

Hova is finally going to do his album of standards.

― A-ron Hubbard (Hurting), Thursday, 14 September 2006 20:16 (nineteen years ago)

"Yo B, you ready? Brushes! Walking bass! I'm in the mood for love/simply because you're near me..."

― A-ron Hubbard (Hurting), Thursday, 14 September 2006 20:20 (nineteen years ago)

hova should have done the "in the air tonight" cover for miami vice
-- gear (speed.to.roa...), September 14th, 2006.

He's already done a track with Glenn Frey!

― deej.. (deej..), Thursday, 14 September 2006 20:23 (nineteen years ago)

ahah. thanks guys, this thread has provided my first office laugh of the day.
pretty wtf about "coldplay" (as timbaland calls him), though... I kinda wish he would start to dress all wigga style...

― AleXTC (AleXTC), Friday, 15 September 2006 08:57 (nineteen years ago)

Can't say I'm surprised by Coldplay...

Hova and Phil covering "Easy Lover" would be bliss.
=OTM

― Baaderonixx: the lost ILX years (baaderonixx), Friday, 15 September 2006 09:10 (nineteen years ago)

"Old Day."

― Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Friday, 15 September 2006 09:12 (nineteen years ago)

I'm quite stupidly excited for this.

― Why does my IQ changes? (noodle vague), Friday, 15 September 2006 11:24 (nineteen years ago)

"I Finally Have Time to Catch Up on My Reading"

"Videovixen" is hopefully not one of'em.

― Nathalie (stevie nixed), Friday, 15 September 2006 11:52 (nineteen years ago)

He's an Uzi lover!

― Rowlando for the kidz (Sam Rowlands), Friday, 15 September 2006 23:12 (nineteen years ago)

It's probably not going to be that great now that he wears sandals.

― A-ron Hubbard (Hurting), Friday, 15 September 2006 23:12 (nineteen years ago)

I was hoping Kanye West and Jon Brion would continue their overweight-scenester cred producing supergroup for all eternity. Alas, it was not to be.

― Squirrel_Police (Squirrel_Police), Friday, 15 September 2006 23:18 (nineteen years ago)

I'm quite stupidly excited for this.

Oh, I poke fun, but I'll absolutely be buying this ASAP.

― James.Cobo (jamescobo), Saturday, 16 September 2006 23:10 (nineteen years ago)

Me too, there've only been a few rap albums so far this year (E-40, Ghostface, Roots) that I really got into. This seems like a sure thing.

― Marmot (marmotwolof), Saturday, 16 September 2006 23:17 (nineteen years ago)

overweight-scenester cred producing supergroup

I had to read that all out of order to make any sense out of it. I'm still not sure I know what the hell you're saying.

x-post

And HELLS YES I'll be purchasing this.

― Hoosteen (Hoosteen), Saturday, 16 September 2006 23:19 (nineteen years ago)

It means he thinks that they are well liked by fat hipsters, I think?

― Marmot (marmotwolof), Saturday, 16 September 2006 23:23 (nineteen years ago)

hahha "beach chair" i wonder if all his new material is culled from his retirment.
"Beach Chair"
"Nothing Beats a Hot Cup of Tea and the NY Times Crossword in the Morning"
"Sandals Really Let Your Feet Breathe, You Know?"
"I Really Should Mow The Lawn, But I Just Got Season Two of Entourage"
"Beyonce, Can You Answer That?"
"I Finally Have Time to Catch Up on My Reading"
"I Fucking Told You, I Don't Care Where We Get Takeout From!"
"God, My DSL at Home Sucks"

-- M@tt He1geson: Real Name, No Gimmicks (matt@game[remove]informer.com), September 14th, 2006.

What a great post

― Billy Pilgrim (Billy Pilgrim), Saturday, 16 September 2006 23:45 (nineteen years ago)

yay!

i finally picked up Reasonable Doubt, too.

― poortheatre (poortheatre), Monday, 18 September 2006 13:53 (nineteen years ago)

(shoulda went triple)

― A-ron Hubbard (Hurting), Monday, 18 September 2006 13:58 (nineteen years ago)

two weeks pass...

http://idolator.com/tunes/jay-z/leak-of-the-week-day-year-jayz-show-me-what-you-got-205822.php

― Hoosteen (Hoosteen), Saturday, 7 October 2006 05:46 (nineteen years ago)

HOVEMBER RAIN

― a|ex (Pareene), Saturday, 7 October 2006 05:59 (nineteen years ago)

STARTS NOW

― a|ex (Pareene), Saturday, 7 October 2006 05:59 (nineteen years ago)

IN HOV-TOBER

― max (maxreax), Saturday, 7 October 2006 06:05 (nineteen years ago)

OCT-HOV-ER SURPRISE

― a|ex (Pareene), Saturday, 7 October 2006 06:09 (nineteen years ago)

ROC-TÖBERFEST

― max (maxreax), Saturday, 7 October 2006 06:16 (nineteen years ago)

Kinda disappointing, but how could it not be? Sucks that he's still into that "Encore"/Elvis in Vegas sound that semi-ruined the Black Album, but this isn't quite as bad as "Bonnie & Clyde" or "Change Clothes". (So yeah, all this really proves is that Jay has gotten shit at picking first singles.) That Flav sample seems really tacked on and the drums are way too busy.

― Apocalypse '07: Rodney Strikes Back (R. J. Greene), Saturday, 7 October 2006 06:19 (nineteen years ago)

"and the drums are way too busy."

That's the beauty of it!

― MRZBW (MRZBW), Saturday, 7 October 2006 12:40 (nineteen years ago)

I like the beat. It usually takes me a few listens for Jay lyrics to really sink in.

Is that the Rumpshaker saxophone?

― A-ron Hubbard (Hurting), Saturday, 7 October 2006 13:35 (nineteen years ago)

it is the rumpshaker sax.

beat is soft soul cheese. crappy drum fills from 'the blazettes'. lazy endless loop of a beat.

sounds like a blueprint/black album outtake or something that didnt make the cut last time.

not really much of a fanfare for the new album.

hope nas' first single is better.

― titchyschneider (titchyschneider), Saturday, 7 October 2006 14:23 (nineteen years ago)

I heard Nas' album is will.i.am'd out like a motherfucker, so uh don't hold your breath.

― James.Cobo (jamescobo), Saturday, 7 October 2006 15:43 (nineteen years ago)

will.i.am >>>> just blaze

― and what (ooo), Saturday, 7 October 2006 15:49 (nineteen years ago)

I know ILM is a contrarian contest, but fuck, man, you're just out of line now.

― Alex in Baltimore (Alex in Baltimore), Saturday, 7 October 2006 16:11 (nineteen years ago)

I mean this new song is no "Hovi Baby" but I love JB's spastic jazz fusion drums.

― Alex in Baltimore (Alex in Baltimore), Saturday, 7 October 2006 16:12 (nineteen years ago)

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I finally heard one of the new songs on 92Q last night but the DJs didn't say what it was called - the chorus was "30s are the new 20s" or something like that.

i heard them play 'lost ones' and thought it was weaker than a bottle of coors cutter

― am0n (am0n), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 20:42 (nineteen years ago)

i've got this now. pretty bad.

― gbx (skowly), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 23:05 (nineteen years ago)

sohh says that the leaked version is not the version that's gonna be in stores
-- max (maxrea...), November 15th, 2006. (maxreax)

Rappers insisting that the retail version will be different from the leak: C/D?

― Hoosteen (Hoosteen), Thursday, 16 November 2006 01:59 (nineteen years ago)

jay seems to be claiming the existence of tracks not on the cd, incl. a collabo w/ nas and cam diss track

― max (maxreax), Thursday, 16 November 2006 02:07 (nineteen years ago)

does anyone else think the first 5 or so lines are a subliminal at 50? not to be like a total nerd. he just sounds like he's intentionally biting 50's flow/voice sound.

― max (maxreax), Thursday, 16 November 2006 02:09 (nineteen years ago)

got it. not v. good. he's got some pretty nice rhymes in there along with a lot of filler and unconvincing, forced laughs. but he doesn't make you want to listen to him anymore, which i think encapsulates it all.

beats will be remembered as late era dre, neptunes and kanye before they all vaporised into oblivion.

― Janus Køster-Rasmussen (Vesterbrunch), Thursday, 16 November 2006 11:30 (nineteen years ago)

unconvincing, forced laughs

like at the start of show me what ya got? i.e. "He, he, I'm back, he, he."

― am0n (am0n), Thursday, 16 November 2006 14:22 (nineteen years ago)

haha, at least he says he's sorry at the beginning of that song. actually, though, "Show Me What You Got" has slowly grown on me, when it comes on the radio I leave it on.

beats will be remembered as late era dre, neptunes and kanye before they all vaporised into oblivion.

I wish that was true, but I think they'll all be charging six figures for a beat until they're 80. it's definitely symptomatic of one of Jay's problems the last few years, though. aside from a handful of no-names, every producer he's worked with on this and the Black Album have been established people he's worked with forever, when he used to discover producers or get with whoever's new and hot at the moment. not that I necessarily want to hear Jay do songs with Cool & Dre or whatever, but it seems like he's unwilling to go out of his comfort zone and will just take whatever Pharrell or Just Blaze comes up with.

― Alex in Baltimore (Alex in Baltimore), Thursday, 16 November 2006 14:36 (nineteen years ago)

yeah its a nice track, but that beginning is awkward

― am0n (am0n), Thursday, 16 November 2006 14:38 (nineteen years ago)

also, the homoeroticism on Do U Wanna Ride:

»I know some places we can go (Yeah nigga)/Do you wanna ride with me?«

― Janus Køster-Rasmussen (Vesterbrunch), Thursday, 16 November 2006 15:12 (nineteen years ago)

I'm really starting to lose my appreciation of this guy. He's becoming, like, the rap Donald Trump or something.

― A-ron Hubbard (Hurting), Thursday, 16 November 2006 15:49 (nineteen years ago)

His hyper-capitalist schtick was sort of likeable when he was still the scrappy underdog fighting his way to the top, but now he just comes off as a boor.

― A-ron Hubbard (Hurting), Thursday, 16 November 2006 15:51 (nineteen years ago)

I kinda like the video to "show me what you got" in an out of control 70's soap opera bling way. makes the track more fun.

― AleXTC (AleXTC), Thursday, 16 November 2006 16:30 (nineteen years ago)

i like it a little better now, after a few listens. esp. "oh my god" and "do u wanna ride". that chris martin song still doesn't make sense, though. the album is on par with, or slightly better than, the black album. that isn't much of a praise, i know, but then, it isn't meant to be.

― Janus Køster-Rasmussen (Vesterbrunch), Thursday, 16 November 2006 18:35 (nineteen years ago)

The front sleeve looks alright until you pull it from the tray. Then it turns comical.

― Pamplaxico Polancobon (Andy_K), Thursday, 16 November 2006 20:41 (nineteen years ago)

heard some track reusing the break from the guru joint off first fam 4 life

― and what (ooo), Friday, 17 November 2006 02:30 (nineteen years ago)

and the 1st quas album

― and what (ooo), Friday, 17 November 2006 02:31 (nineteen years ago)

xpost
really, it's on par with/better than the black album ?
first thing here that gets me interested in it since everybody seemed to say it's he's worst ever.
I really like the black album (I seem to be the only one on earth, though). I might consider getting this one then...

― AleXTC (AleXTC), Friday, 17 November 2006 10:07 (nineteen years ago)

dr dres beats on this are pretty poor - they sound low budget and cheap (but then so do a million other beats these days) and weirdly, two of them sound like j dilla!

Lost One and Trouble, right? I initially thought the piano runs were Anthony Hamilton rip-offs. Then I scanned the credits: Mark Batson, Hamilton's producer, co-produced them.

― Pamplaxico Polancobon (Andy_K), Friday, 17 November 2006 14:18 (nineteen years ago)

Alex, I also really like the Black album and I think that save "30 Something" this is garbage, no better than the subpar leaked stuff.

― Hoosteen (Hoosteen), Friday, 17 November 2006 17:06 (nineteen years ago)

I really like "Trouble." All in all the album's ok, or at least nowhere near depressing as the fact that Jay has gotten himself dragged into a beef with JIM JONES.

― Alex in Baltimore (Alex in Baltimore), Friday, 17 November 2006 17:08 (nineteen years ago)

JIM JONES

who tf?

― Janus Køster-Rasmussen (Vesterbrunch), Saturday, 18 November 2006 16:36 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.biography.com/notorious/images/episode_images/Jim_Jones_320x240.jpg

― Dan Barramouss (jimnaseum), Saturday, 18 November 2006 18:01 (nineteen years ago)

Jim Jones is a douche.

A DOUCHE I SAY

― Hoosteen (Hoosteen), Saturday, 18 November 2006 19:02 (nineteen years ago)

Hoosten OTM

― dommy p is alright WHICH IS A LOT MORE THAN I CAN SAY ABOUT A LOT OF PEOPLE (Dom, Saturday, 18 November 2006 19:06 (nineteen years ago)

On the plus side he's never released anything as risable as "Beach chair".

― Dan Barramouss (jimnaseum), Saturday, 18 November 2006 19:11 (nineteen years ago)

I'm really starting to lose my appreciation of this guy. He's becoming, like, the rap Donald Trump or something.
-- A-ron Hubbard (Hurtingchie...), November 16th, 2006 3:49 PM. (later)

haha Jay actually says "I'm Trump-like" on the Jim Jones diss (which is FULL of those annoying forced laughs, btw).

― Alex in Baltimore (Alex in Baltimore), Saturday, 18 November 2006 19:50 (nineteen years ago)

Jim Jones is coming off better than Jay.

I haven't heard the JJ album but I think I want to.

― deej.. (deej..), Saturday, 18 November 2006 21:58 (nineteen years ago)

I love that as soon as Jay put out his diss Jim was like REMIX!

― Hoosteen (Hoosteen), Saturday, 18 November 2006 22:10 (nineteen years ago)

Nas (feat. Jay Z) - Black Republican (album version) -

www.f-forge.com?d=t0rYIJUvmMzeg23fHoij

Amazing

― Erock Lazron (Erock Zombie), Sunday, 19 November 2006 22:18 (nineteen years ago)

Contrarian-ass motherfuckers in 3...2...

― Hoosteen (Hoosteen), Sunday, 19 November 2006 22:24 (nineteen years ago)

Damn ILM is dead today.

― Hoosteen (Hoosteen), Sunday, 19 November 2006 22:45 (nineteen years ago)

TS: posting "ysi?" on ILM vs. posting ysi's noone asked for of songs a week after it'd leaked and most of the people who were interested in it had heard it already

― Alex in Baltimore (Alex in Baltimore), Sunday, 19 November 2006 23:01 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, I DID post it a week ago when it leaked .... when it was a radio rip with DJ's on it, and when it leaked again with one DJ on it, I posted it again,

Just thought some people might want the CD quality album version, but I guess you already had that a week ago when it didn't leak yet

― Erock Lazron (Erock Zombie), Sunday, 19 November 2006 23:30 (nineteen years ago)

I was referring more to Hoosteen's shock that there wasn't an army of immediate responses to your link.

― Alex in Baltimore (Alex in Baltimore), Monday, 20 November 2006 00:09 (nineteen years ago)

I was just sort of speaking into the vapor, there don't seem to be that many answers in general today.

― Hoosteen (Hoosteen), Monday, 20 November 2006 00:23 (nineteen years ago)

dude, it's a Sunday.

― Alex in Baltimore (Alex in Baltimore), Monday, 20 November 2006 00:23 (nineteen years ago)

yet here we are.

*cue good/bad/ugly*

― Hoosteen (Hoosteen), Monday, 20 November 2006 00:28 (nineteen years ago)

hoosteen otm

― and what (ooo), Monday, 20 November 2006 00:48 (nineteen years ago)

this album is better after a few plays. if you forget its meant to be some grand return and all that PR bluster and just think of it as yet another jay z album, its fine. its no way as bad as everyone is making out. i have no idea what everyone as expecting. he hasnt been on fire for years, this doesnt change that, but its still good.

― titchyschneider (titchyschneider), Monday, 20 November 2006 11:41 (nineteen years ago)

I'm glad I paid for this just for the bonus disc that came with it. Three live tracks, sounds like the Roots + horn section, it's hot like fire.

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 15:28 (nineteen years ago)

As for the rest I'm into the three Just Blaze tracks (Oh My God OMG!) and the Neptunes one, the rest, not yet.

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 15:29 (nineteen years ago)

yeah, Oh My God is a rad track.

but seriously what is this garbagey crap crap:

I felt like dyin/but I ain't cryin/what didn't kill me/made me strong as I am

― Cap'n Guthrie (Digestion is Easy!), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 15:39 (nineteen years ago)

I thought he was saying "strong as iron."

― Alex in Baltimore (Alex in Baltimore), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 15:41 (nineteen years ago)

regardless, its still GCC

― Cap'n Guthrie (Digestion is Easy!), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 15:43 (nineteen years ago)

Two Words: Washington Wizards

― Scott CE (Scott CE), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 17:20 (nineteen years ago)

two months pass...

did anybody read the review of "beach chair" in last month's wire? i think it's actually my favorite piece of writing about Kingdom Come.

― Raymond Cummings (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 1 February 2007 16:41 (nineteen years ago)

two years pass...

finally i know who played drums on this. amazing & sick:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3yCNnN25FUE

― Ømår Littel (Jordan), Tuesday, 6 October 2009 21:51 (sixteen years ago)

man this thread is a fuckin time capsule

― some dude, Tuesday, 6 October 2009 22:39 (sixteen years ago)

daaaaamn

― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 7 October 2009 05:41 (sixteen years ago)

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