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did you ever come across a band whose image and description and maybe even a song or two totally put you off of them? and did you ever, some time down the road, find yourself loving them? a band who'd make you say, "there's no fucking way I'LL ever like this group," only for you to realize that, yes, there was a fucking way? call it the "tom ewing meets belle & sebastian" question, if you will.

fred solinger, Wednesday, 4 April 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Both Suede and Green Day fall into this category for me. (Underworld doesn't fit because by all rights I should love them unabashedly, but for some reason I only find myself really enjoying their live shows and about 50% of their recorded output.)

Dan Perry, Wednesday, 4 April 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Liking Belle and Sebastian was the best idea I've had in the last year. It does you good.

Anyway, them, obviously, and this is something which happens with me quite a lot. Most recently the Dismemberment Plan.

Tom, Wednesday, 4 April 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

man, i'll never like the dismemberment plan. but this did happen to me with richard buckner. at first, i was very put off by his voice.

matthew stevens, Wednesday, 4 April 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Early Manics. Seemed completely annoying and far too like Birdland (anyone remember them?) for comfort. But something about the songs hooked me in -- I won't go so far as to say that I *loved* them, but I did like a lot of the songs.

Nicole, Wednesday, 4 April 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Yeah, this happens all the time to me too. Yesterday, ferinstance, I realized I'd much rather listen to Daft Punk than the Milo Fine Free Jazz Ensemble OR your average Tom Waits record, and that I have lots of boring-ass shitty records to sell.

Why do I expect Fred started this thread to get us to admit to our embarrassing about-faces in taste so that he can not feel as bad about admitting to one himself?

Otis Wheeler, Wednesday, 4 April 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Hefner. God, his voice is SO annoying! Oh, actually they're quite good... Also, not really the band but possibly my favourite album ever I hated on first listen - The Go-Betweens' 'Before Hollywood'. What's this? It's got no tunes!

Ally C, Wednesday, 4 April 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I'm ashamed to say Stone Temple Pilots. Although really, I think I still hate them, but there was a while that these guys who I used to work with played this one album over and over and I hated it so much until slowly, I started to like it. Strange transformation. I'm not sure what album it was, I think it was called 'Tiny Music' or something like that. I haven't heard it in about 6 years so maybe I'll hate it now, but at the time I remember thinking, "Good Christ, I can't believe I like this crap ass band!" Talk about a "punchable face"!

Tim Baier, Wednesday, 4 April 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I wanted to puke the first time I heard Stinkfist by Tool. Now, they are practically the only band to emerge in the past 5 years that I actually like. Much better industrial like band than all the other rap rock shit like Papa Roach, Linkin Park, and Disturbed that is out there.

Luptune Pitman, Wednesday, 4 April 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Velvet Underground. A long time ago a friend of mine played me "Black Angels Death Song". It sounded nothing like Jan and Dean so I hated it.

I eventually came around etc etc....

Steven James, Wednesday, 4 April 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

oh god, birdland?!?! i would often threaten people i knew with forcing them to take my birdland ep if they ever made me really upset. once upon a time they were practically the nme house band. answering the question - uh someone like talk talk/mark hollis, i usually hate "serious" musicians but he is beautiful.

keith, Wednesday, 4 April 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Erm. I am the lone shark out there because I can't think of an example to say yes to this question. I am an unchangeable bitch, and there's nothing you can do about it. And we will never, ever make that Birdland comparison again, Nicole. You understand me? ;)

So, Fred, out with it, what is the embarrasing about face you've done cos I think everyone's right: you'd not have posted this without one in mind.

Ally, Wednesday, 4 April 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Yeah... That's how I feel about classic rock.

Keiko, Wednesday, 4 April 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I thought the whole point of Birdland was that they were the John the Baptist to the Manics' Messiah. Surely. ;-)

Hm...there's probably some chart-straddling nu-metal group I'd end up liking if I was exposed to it enough. But given the amount of goth/ glam subtexts in a lot of it, I suppose that's not too surprising...

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 4 April 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Creed. the voice. the video's. the massive overplay they recieve on the local stations here. and that they sound way too much like pearl jam.

Kevin Enas, Wednesday, 4 April 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Dismemberment Plan, that's one for me also. One of the very few times I found myself put off by hype, and I figured it was just straight-up indie rock that'd bore me. But that last full-length has a few excellent songs on it, and I began to see what others were talking about.

Mark Richardson, Wednesday, 4 April 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

When I was about 15, I heard "the Robots" by Kraftwerk, I hated it and the way they acted!! I was a metal fan and hated them coz I thought they were souless dance music. Glad I'm no longer 15!

jel, Thursday, 5 April 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Jay-Z.

Robin Carmody, Thursday, 5 April 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Many bands I wanted to hate. Suede probably springs to mind. But the big daddy of them all was Zeppelin. In my most punke rocke high school years, I swore they were the epitome of everything I hated. Until my best friend got me so drunk I didn't know what I was listening to, and sat me down and played me Zeppelin II & III. I've been ashamed ever since.

You know, if I'd ever met a Belle and Sebastian fan before hearing their music, or known *anything* about them, I'd have hated them on sight. Luckily, someone, I even forget who, put some on the back of an Eno/Suicide drone compilation tape, and I listened without even knowing what it was, and fell in love. SO there you go.

kate the saint, Saturday, 7 April 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

two weeks pass...
1. Cookie, you're right - it's got no tunes.

2. I have never quite understood Tom Ewing's view of Belle & Sebastian. He seems to think of them as music for sad lonely people, or something. I know that he is too intelligent and subtle to think anything quite as silly as that, and I thought his article on them last year contained some good things. But I still think he has misread them in some way. Or has he? Maybe it's a matter of emphasis - that B&S seem different if you're approaching them from top-10 stuff, rather than from somewhere else.

the pinefox, Thursday, 26 April 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

suede. They looked so STUPID, and the singer was/(probably still is) suck a complete knob (I am a bisexual who's never had a homosexual experience" should be carved on a big block of granite, and left outside whichever pub is hip in london indie circles at the time, pour encourager les autres, or whatever) BUT then I got "we are the pigs", and suddenly the old stuff sounded good too...

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norman fay, Thursday, 26 April 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

errr...ooops, that should say "such a complete knob". Don't know *what* I was thinking of :/

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norman fay, Thursday, 26 April 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

one year passes...
No one who's read my answers to other questions will believe this, but I didn't like Pink Floyd. They look like homosexual schmucks, and I watched the film of "THE WALL", which absolutely freaked me aged 8 as I was so I concluded that they were FUCKED-UP. Then one day I liked them. Also GONG. "You can't kill me" I found very scary when I was 9, but they grow on you.

Anna Rose, Wednesday, 22 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

!!!!!!

michael, Wednesday, 22 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I presume your !!!!!! is in reference to the "homosexual schmucks" part of Anna's post.

Alex in SF, Wednesday, 22 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Oh come on, one can be a homosexual AND a schmuck, look at some of chartpop lately

dave q, Wednesday, 22 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

No doubt about that, Mr. Q. I'm more curious about YOU visually identify homosexual schmucks.

Alex in SF, Wednesday, 22 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

See Anal Cunt's razor-sharp character study, "I Just Saw the Gayest Guy on Earth"!

dave q, Wednesday, 22 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

And he looked like a SCHMUCK too???!?!?!?!

Alex in SF, Wednesday, 22 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Well, according to the song he 'drinks Frappucinos' and wears local band t-shirts

dave q, Wednesday, 22 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Did Pink Floyd drink Frapuccinos?!?!?! Those homosexual schmucks!

Alex in SF, Wednesday, 22 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

a friend of mine stayed w/ me in boston for a month or so. we went to a burger joint one day, and i explained to him that in order to order a 'milkshake' in boston-speak, he had to ask for a 'frappe'. he told me, stunned, that 'where i come from, to frappe someone is to beat them with yr dick' and was frightened into ordering a soda

sorry, the 'frappucino' comment just reminded me of that somehow

geeta, Wednesday, 22 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

And I thought Boston was a BUTCH town. Jeez.

Alex in SF, Wednesday, 22 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)


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