DAN PERRY LIKES LINKIN PARK

That, and their songs are (relative to their peers) catchy. Hooks galore. Nice and shiny. Shimmy shimmy ya. Maura & others are so right - they're the nu-metal *NSYNC.

Creamed corn's not good for you, by the way.

I am hoping for an epic Linkin Park/N'Sync fan throw down...

Utterly and totally accurate. Simple as that. It's so brilliant a concept (I say nothing about the actual execution per se) that I'm still surprised it took so long. It really renders Limp Bizkit instantly irrelevant.

Whether these two tendencies ever should have been combined is a whole other issue.

Yes, they are the nu-metal boy band. I would have thought people would have figured that out once they realized that the other group out there most sonically similar to them is Stabbing Westward (who themselves are really a snarly version of Depeche Mode).

But the appeal of LP is totally in their MC-democratising. "Made me feel like I was part of ya PRO-PA-TEE!" etc. = perfectly designed for angsty boys who wanna throw their arms towards the ground, stamp their feet and bristle their eyebrows without learning how to twist their tongues like Ludacris or scratch up their throats like DMX.

Saw a great impromptu lipsynching of "It Doesn't Even Matter" by some guys I know, and I realised that LP's other trick is to take this laudable ease-of-use approach and combine it with Max Martin-style every-note-is-a-chorus economy. Only it's more like every moment is the glittering angst-ridden peak (by the end of the song my friends were physically exhausted from pretending to emote) shoved together in sucession, bam bam bam bam bam.

"Made me feel like I was part of ya PRO-PA-TEE!" etc. = perfectly designed for angsty boys who wanna throw their arms towards the ground, stamp their feet and bristle their eyebrows...

...which succinctly describes the key to success for most modern rock / pop crossovers, or for any "pop" success - ease of use (or implementation). It's not what they say, it's how they say it, from the phrasing of the lines to that certain zing! given to the guitars to the way the song(s) ebb & flow. In that aspect, it's brilliant - as well produced and well planned as any pop record.

In this case (and I'm guessing the pre-fab complaints made by Chaki are true), LP was made to be easily likable. Some other groups might stumble upon this likability by their own selves (outside of the auspices of handlers & A&R cattle-prodders & what have you). It's just a matter of embracing that user-friendliness at face value because it ROCKS!, or chafing against this because of one's ideological / aesthetic stance.

MAC VS. PC!

my probem stems from the fact that they sound like ass to these ears and all the genius conceptual moves in the world aren't overriding this so far.

tim, i'm not against yr mc nyquil's (puttin heads to bed) of this world...i love ma$e for chrissakes...

I loathe Ma$e. I abhor Ma$e. I despise Ma$e. I am disgusted by Ma$e. Hearing a Ma$e song at a club/party will cause me to leave. Seeing a Ma$e video will cause me to turn off the television. Seeing a picture of Ma$e fills me with white-hot incandescent rage at the three years of my radio- listening life that were tainted, sullied, and otherwise defile by this brain-dead fool's ubiquitous presence on the airwaves. To this day, even though the acts that are being marketed by Bad Boy are much better, I cannot look at or hear the name of that record label without shuddering because it will always remind me of Ma$e. If someone told me that the price of living forever would be to spend an hour each day listening to Ma$e's album, you wouldn't be able to pay me to do it.

I HATE MA$E.

I'm a little saddened at all the negativity flying around this forum, especially about myself. When a simple google search with your kids (who want to know what it was all about when daddy was a "famous rapper") turns up some guy you never met who says he loathes you, well man, that shit's not cool. Having accepted the lord into my heart, I'd like to suggest you might need to do the same, unless you want the demons in your own heart to overtake you like they threatened me a long time ago. To those that showed love, much respect.

Your Pal, http://members.aol.com/dubplatestyle/mase.jpg Ma$e.

I must commend Jess on finding the one picture of Ma$e that doesn't make him look mentally handicapped.

In fairness how could he?

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July 17th, 2007 at 11:14 am

kirk

http://boycottthemusic.blogspot.com

if you dont mind, i'd like to use this for my blog. Boycott The Music Industry.

let me know.

you could do that with lots of bands

quiet verse and loud chorus on the singles? SHOCKING.

Sssshhh, stop being so snarky, this is a damning indictment of the music industry here.

the trouble with that graphic? you still can't tell which ones suck bad and which don't suck quite as bad as the ones that suck bad

i know, i've been trying to think of a way to tell without having to actually listen to any of them

well the answer is Faint

I WON'T BE IGNOOOOOORED

Most of their songs have an undeniable cheap visceral appeal. They are all exactly the same though.

ya roomie and i agreed years ago that if you decide you need anything of this particular stripe, just get "faint" and put it on repeat until you get your fix. pretty much the epitome.

the LP remix of enjoy the silence is hilarious

jay-z vs. linkin park numb/encore duh

I would like to hear an album of covers from linkin park actually. or an EP at least. bacharach, english beat, three dog night, maybe some early bowie material. I think I would love it.

Their cover of Space Oddity currently playing in my head is pretty hilarious.

"GROUND CONTROLLLLLLL!"

Shitty rapper guy: YOU REALLY MADE THE GRADE!

It creeps, and leaps, and glides and slides
Across the floor
Right through the door
And all around the wall
A splotch, a blotch
Be careful of the blob

*pop*

BEWARE OF THE BLOB

Linkin Park am not Bizarro Jeff's favorite band!

LP's combination of nu-metal with Nirvanaesque i-hate-myself-and-want- to-die lyrics and attitude is something of an innovation

ROFL

That, and their songs are (relative to their peers) catchy. Hooks galore. Nice and shiny. Shimmy shimmy ya. Maura & others are so right - they're the nu-metal *NSYNC.

Naw. As Minutes to Midnight shows, they're more like the nu-metal Backstreet Boys.

god that record was insufferable

The song that Linkin Park desperately needs to cover is Journey's "Separate Ways".

Rapper: If, he, ev-er hurts you
Singer: True love won't deserrrrrrt you!!!
Rapper: You, know... I, still, love, you
Singer: Though we touched and went OUR SEPARATE WAYYYYYYYYYS!!!!!

Dear Ma$e,

You are awesome. Middle school was great because of you. Well, actually, I have to give partial credit to Will Smith and K-Ci & JoJo, but you definitely made things better. Don't let Dan Perry get you down.

Yours Truly,

rev

They finally did it. It only took three albums, a bunch of singles, and a collaboration with Jigga - but they finally suckered me in. I really like "Shadow of the Day". Kind of a lot, actually. I was sitting in Subway the first time I heard it and they were piping in their usual Top 40 station when it came on and I remember thinking, "hmmm... this is actually not too bad". I nearly shat myself when the DJ announced it as Linkin Park at the end of the song.

They finally did it. It only took three albums, a bunch of singles, and a collaboration with Jigga - but they finally suckered me in. I really like "Shadow of the Day". Kind of a lot, actually. I was sitting in Subway the first time I heard it and they were piping in their usual Top 40 station when it came on and I remember thinking, "hmmm... this is actually not too bad". I nearly shat myself when the DJ announced it as Linkin Park at the end of the song.

Yeah, agreed, except for the word 'shat' and the 'liking it' bit

Heh, well it didn't make me rush out and buy the album or anything. But I look forward to hearing it if I have a Top 40 station on in the car.

it's hilarious to watch millions of moms flip-flop on Linkin Park...

it's hilarious to read snarky dicks on the interweb...

wait, not really.

as if people on the internet write about linkin park

...

fuckin amateur hour

try it again, guys

oh, jesus christ. see, some of us grew up in a time where moms despised linkin park. and now it's on the adult contemporary chart.

but go back to snapping for no reason. and i'll go back to reading enlightening snap posts.

are they srsly on adult contempo

"in a time where moms despised linkin park"

"one album"

"one desire"

linkin park IS:

STILL
SHITTY

(nb i'm fuckin around i ain't even heard the shit)

Linkin Park is great to hear on the radio. I have no desire to own any of their albums, though.

I like the fast ones ("Bleed It Out" and "Faint"), everything else is kind of a slog.

dj green lanterns mixtape of the fort minor album aint too bad with lawyer baiting sample heavy loops throughout.
all the big guns like g-n-r, the doors, george clinton, and umm bloc party get thrown into the cut-n-paste mix.
the result being that the mixtape is far far better than the album proper.

i'm always intrigued by the guy in the band with the beard and BOC afro who used to always wear headphones while playing guitar.

i always imagine that he is into like weirder stuff and thinks he's slumming it in a popular band, like he's secretly listening to swans and neu on those headphones and internally rolling his eyes at the LP stuff he's playing.

anyway these guys are by far the best nu metal band for me, i like the way they not-so-secretly seem to wish they were just writing songs off "violator" by depeche mode with more screaming and rapping....and chester's screaming was always sort of endearingly twerpy like a kid breaking all his toys cuz he got grounded or something like that...at least that's what i thought when i first heard that ONE STEP CLOSAH TO THA EDGE - ANNNNNNUMMMABOUTTA -- BREAK! song which is pretty sweet

these guys are by far the best nu metal band for me

The best band who get lumped in with nu metal are EASILY System of a Down.

yeah they are pretty good too, i guess i think of them more as being from the "Patton School" of spazz art metal (if that's a term, i guess it is now)

Neil Peart is a huge fan of these guys, also loves Jeff Buckley and 98 degrees. The funny thing is that he gives pretty good reasons as to why he likes them. I think I'll stick with Rush.

Yeah, I'd describe them more as art-pop-metal, but when I tell people I'm into them they often pull a face and go "Aren't they a bit like Limp Bizkit?", so I think they're tarred with the nu metal brush.

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there should be a Patton School for metal, like the Prairie School for architecture

I'mma start a band called Likin' Park. We'll do mostly Peter, Paul, and Mary covers.