"Sexual Healing" - Classic or dud?

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Inspired by the last part of a TWAS column. He likes the singing plenty, but can't stand the lyrics. I, on the other hand, love the directness of the words in that song, and they strike me as being very honest (I know that can be a dirty word around here) and quite daring in their own way. What do you think about Marvin Gaye's final hit?

Mark, Wednesday, 4 April 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Classic for sure - everything about it still sounds as marvellous as when I first saw it on a TV pop show all those years ago. The rest of the album is utter crap, however...

philT, Thursday, 5 April 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

"Sexual Healing" is one of the ultimate "get some booty" songs. It's absolutely, bona-fide 100% classic.

Dan Perry, Thursday, 5 April 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I think you'd get some more vile answers if you asked, "What do you think of Soul Asylum's cover of 'Sexual Healing'?"

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 5 April 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I guess everyone likes this song...I was mostly curious about what people thought of the lyrics. On the one hand it's simple booty call music, a guy wanting to get it on, etc. But I find the directness of the approach striking. And I've always felt a twinge of meloncholy w/ the song, the way it looks only for a short term solution and never mentions the idea of love. It could easily be addressed to a prostitute. And it's so incredibly selfish, on the one hand, with "It's good for me" repeated so many more times than "It's good for us." And yet, we can guess from hearing Marvin's side of the story that the woman is only in it for the sex, too. He never mentions anything about love or feelings, and if we're to assume that he's sought this kind of "healing" before, then she must be cool with it. But as Glenn McDonald points out, Marvin isn't taking the long view here. You just know he's going to end up unhappy again, with "tears of blue" falling, etc. But he doesn't care about that right now, he just wants to get laid. I think what I love about the lyrics to the song is the way that they celebrate short-sighted, primal desire, not thinking with your head. Everyone does that sometimes, and they may regret it later, but it seems to be a pretty human thing that should be explored. And I think this song does a great job with that.

Plus, there is the singing. Oh yeah.

Mark, Thursday, 5 April 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

*I* do not like this song. I loathe this song. Why? First off, because it's horribly cheezy but that's not a reason to hate a song. The real reason is EXACTLY what Dan said: men think that this is a supreme sex song. LISTENING TO MARVIN GAYE DOES NOT MAKE YOU SEXY. OR GOOD IN BED. Grrrrrr.

Nothing against the people here who listen to this as a booty call song. I mean, I've never slept with you.

Ally, Thursday, 5 April 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

No song well help you if you're bad in bed, unless the lyrics go something like, "Stop writhing around like an idiot/And do something with that tongue/Before she falls asleep".

(Against his better judgement, he presses send...)

Dan Perry, Thursday, 5 April 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Another number one hit there, Dan.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 6 April 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Thanks to the Joy Division thread, I'm now trying to figure out where I could fit that into "Love Will Tear Us Apart".

Dan Perry, Friday, 6 April 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

one month passes...
I love this song.The lyrics are good plus the beat is still great in this day and age.This song is timeless.I don't know any person that doesn't like this song male or female.

Mike, Friday, 25 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

two years pass...
Just heard this and I still like it.

Mark (MarkR), Friday, 23 April 2004 03:15 (twenty-one years ago)

Haha remember back when I was all embarrassed when I post stuff like that?

VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 23 April 2004 12:25 (twenty-one years ago)

Not really, no. Glad it passed tho

Mr Mime (Andrew Thames), Friday, 23 April 2004 12:27 (twenty-one years ago)

best part is the fadeout ending "..please don't procrastinate...i don't wanna masturb...."

Chris 'The Velvet Bingo' V (Chris V), Friday, 23 April 2004 12:47 (twenty-one years ago)

Great song. And "Midnight Love" was a great album too. A sad loss to music when Gaye was shot by his dad, as he was apparently still capable of creating great music.

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Friday, 23 April 2004 13:42 (twenty-one years ago)

Hell, Owen Wilson nearly got lucky quoting this. Classic.

Barima (Barima), Friday, 23 April 2004 13:54 (twenty-one years ago)

I agree with Mark: Classic despite the clunky lyrics. The problem is the word "healing," which is just an awkward word, especially as a lyric. Consider another example: Van Morrison's "Did Ye Get Healed?" to which I always want to add "I didn't know ye were sick."

Burr (Burr), Friday, 23 April 2004 15:25 (twenty-one years ago)

As a 9 year-old, I thought this sounded distinctly gross (as in, nasty-gross). That feeling has subsided some over the years, esp. as I've learned about Gaye as a person, but it still touches the Ick-ometer from time to time...

Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Friday, 23 April 2004 16:09 (twenty-one years ago)

two years pass...
How about Kate Bush's version?

Mark (MarkR), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 11:59 (eighteen years ago)

o rly?

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 12:05 (eighteen years ago)

I remember being truly, deeply struck by this song as a kid. It sounded like nothing else on the pop airwaves. It was vast and sad and (to my mind) "soulful" in a way that seemed both timeless and very old-fashioned. Catchy as hell, to boot...

As a suburban white boy weaned on the Beatles and Gordon Lightfoot, I was grossitated by its clumsy sexual forthrightness, but it fascinated me, too. I couldn't quit listening, and it came to be one of those songs I hoped to hear whenever I turned on the radio. It's remained a personal favorite for twenty-some years.

Heard it a couple years ago, for the first time in AGES, and was struck by how perfectly in tune with its time it sounded. Listening to it now, in the early twenty-first century, it sounds like a perfect 80s period piece. Sadly, I can no longer hear in it the timeless strangeness I perceived as a kid.

But it still rules. I love the totally dishonest conflation of selfish sexual need with something nearly spiritual. Marvin's coming straight out and saying not only that he requires booty, but that he's intentionally using it to distract himself from life-pain. His entreaty has nothing to do with "her" specifically. It's all about him: his anguish, his need, his eventual consolation.

Yeah, sure, but it all sounds like pure, sweet love. Nice trick...

"You're my medicine, open up and let me in"

fuckfuckingfuckedfucker (fuckfuckingfuckedfucker), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 12:36 (eighteen years ago)

Nice coincidenceE: on the bus home yesterday this came on and I was struck – after having listened to this song 10,000 times since I was a lad – by how beautifully the guitars, synths, and drum program are arranged. Ready for the World's "Love You Down" and Gregory Abbot's "Shake You Down," among others, seem like holograms in comparison.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 12:58 (eighteen years ago)

This was my #1 favorite song of all-time. David Ritz's Gaye bio Divided Soul talks about the origin of the idea of 'sexual healing' - i'm paraphrasing here, but in the twilight of Gaye's career, he was deep into fucked-up, violent, sadomasochistic porn - Ritz walked into a hotel room where Gaye was staying and found the place full of it. Dismayed and distraught, Ritz apparently said to Gaye "Man, you need some sexual healing" -- the idea of turning sex into something dark and violent and territorial into something soft and sweet and loving -- using sex to restore instead of to destroy. It also serves as a weird coda to the problematic relationship Gaye had with sex throughout his life as a result of his religious upbringing (the original title for "Sanctified Lover" was "Sanctified Pussy", which is an extension of the same idea of redemption-by-sex)

PeopleFunnyBoy (PeopleFunnyBoy), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 13:27 (eighteen years ago)

"was my #1" meaning it's recently been supplanted by Sam Cooke's version of "Bring it on Home to Me"

PeopleFunnyBoy (PeopleFunnyBoy), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 13:27 (eighteen years ago)

Ack, mist-type:

"the idea of turning sex into something dark and violent and territorial into something soft and sweet and loving"


Should read:

the idea of turning sex FROM something dark and violent and territorial into something soft and sweet and loving

PeopleFunnyBoy (PeopleFunnyBoy), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 13:30 (eighteen years ago)

Dunno that it's my favorite song of all time, but it's been known to fuck with the top ten.

Interesting anecdote about the song's origins, by the way...

fuckfuckingfuckedfucker (fuckfuckingfuckedfucker), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 13:39 (eighteen years ago)

It reminds me of one of the most WTF moments of my life : I was at a family funeral. There were speeches from my uncles and aunts. Then they played some music my late uncle loved. Suddenly "Sexual healing" starts (might seem a strange thing to play at a funeral but I should add I'm french and my family doesn't really speak english well... nor did they care at that moment anyway). So the first words come "baby, I'm hot just like an oven...". I almost burst into laughter which is crazy cos I was really sad : the funeral was at a crematorium and my uncle was about to be incinerated !
I love this song by the way.

AleXTC (AleXTC), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 14:37 (eighteen years ago)

Did "Cold As Ice" play at the inquest?

(sorry: couldn't resist)

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 14:50 (eighteen years ago)

ah. nope. neither did they play "burn it up" by r-kelly !
good idea for a thread : things to play (or not) at a funeral/crematorium etc !

AleXTC (AleXTC), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 15:44 (eighteen years ago)

I adore Marvin Gaye, and I own literally every single LP he's released, even his Broadway standards stuff. That said, I don't really like this song. Maybe it's because I don't like the idea of the song, that Marvin was in such a one-dimensional personal and artistic funk, and that about all he recorded between Let's Get it On and Midnight Love were songs about sex, and just sex. Also, I find the song a bit cheesy, not just because "ooh, he said 'sex' in the title!" but the combination of the lyrics and the 80s AOR-ness, etc. Maybe it would have blown my mind had I been around in the early 80s.

musically (musically), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 16:52 (eighteen years ago)

I think most of you guys are relying too much on what you know about Gaye's biography. The lyrics of "Sexual Healing" never meant a damn to me (it took about 10 years to make out that he was saying "I'm hot like an oven"). It was his voice – that beautiful creamy high end with grit at the bottom – interacting with the instrumental arrangements which is most eloquent about the transcendent kind of healing only sex can provide.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 17:34 (eighteen years ago)

Kate Bush's version is good too, yo. This song is great no matter who is singing it.

Mark (MarkR), Wednesday, 19 July 2006 01:05 (eighteen years ago)

eleven months pass...

The Freemasons mix of the Alibi Vs Rockefelller version > the original. I can only imagine if they had mixed the original song...

musically, Monday, 9 July 2007 04:19 (seventeen years ago)

wasn't the critical reception at the time to this song & album pretty lukewarm? i seem to remember that being the case. it was ok back in the day, sort of appropriate background music for the dive bars i was frequenting then (underage drinking ahoy), but it was never one of his better songs.

gershy, Monday, 9 July 2007 04:35 (seventeen years ago)

The single was #2 and album was #8 on P&J, so not really.

The Reverend, Monday, 9 July 2007 05:12 (seventeen years ago)

hmmmm, well that's what happens when you're a teenage alkie (bad memory)

gershy, Monday, 9 July 2007 05:21 (seventeen years ago)

No-one likes this song! They like the Tr-808! The whole song is just a showcase for a drum machine!

And as for the lyrics, the whole thing hangs on a metaphor equating surgery with sexual intercourse - that's fine, that is perfectly logical - and yet he never once avails himself of the opportunity to use the word 'scalpel'. WHY NOT?? For this reason, 'Sexual Healing' is too much, and yet, in a more profoundly disappointing way, not nearly enough. The only healing he's going to get is the calming ministrations of mother fist and her five daughters.

moley, Monday, 9 July 2007 06:56 (seventeen years ago)

No one wants to hear the word "scalpel" when they're about to start fucking unless they are also listening for "to your breasts" and "sautee until crispy".

HI DERE, Tuesday, 10 July 2007 00:19 (seventeen years ago)

two years pass...

Oh man, I was just down in the cafeteria getting a cup of coffee. The cashier is this v. v. pretty Southeast Asian woman about my age who is sorta flirty with me when I come in. I’m 3 people back in line when Sexual Healing comes on the radio! So I’m thinking to myself “that might be kinda an awkward song considering that most everybody in here is over 50.” Right then, a middle-aged black lady who was behind me in line, starts singing along under her breath and doinging a very slight hip-thrusting dance. It was a pretty awesome moment.

Shakim O'Collier (kingkongvsgodzilla), Friday, 21 August 2009 17:18 (fifteen years ago)

And then you hit it.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 21 August 2009 17:29 (fifteen years ago)

1) this is a great song, and would still be a great song without the 808

2) apparently hot 8 brass band's version became something of a minor hit in the uk/europe

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pXcad_Qx7aM

Ømår Littel (Jordan), Friday, 21 August 2009 17:29 (fifteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s75WIkQBYzk

Ømår Littel (Jordan), Friday, 21 August 2009 17:34 (fifteen years ago)

And then you hit it.

No, then I paid for my coffee and she was like "do you have 3 pennies" and I said "I'm sorry, I forgot."

Shakim O'Collier (kingkongvsgodzilla), Friday, 21 August 2009 17:39 (fifteen years ago)

Dunno if i'd say it was a "hit" exactly but i heard a few times on the radio and it seems to have become something of a cult favourite. Whatever, it's a fantastic version.

Number None, Friday, 21 August 2009 17:41 (fifteen years ago)

when i used to go see them at bean brothers in new orleans around '03/'04, they would always end the night with this tune and the whole club would be a big sing-along

Ømår Littel (Jordan), Friday, 21 August 2009 17:47 (fifteen years ago)

This brings me back to Tuesday nights at the Maple Leaf watching Rebirth tear it up. So much fun. Thanks for the link.

brotherlovesdub, Friday, 21 August 2009 17:54 (fifteen years ago)

http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/pictures/l/14/37/TOBF-5030.jpg

Milton Parker, Friday, 21 August 2009 18:31 (fifteen years ago)

$240 Worth Of Pudding

billstevejim, Monday, 24 August 2009 14:27 (fifteen years ago)

We had the 240.00.. we had to have the pudding. Mister Bochet??! Let's get a good shot of this pudding.. now that is the kind of pudding that only $240 can buy.

billstevejim, Monday, 24 August 2009 14:40 (fifteen years ago)

Almost forgot to mention..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xpuUemDBz-8

billstevejim, Monday, 24 August 2009 14:54 (fifteen years ago)

two years pass...

amazing, lush song

the greates (crüt), Thursday, 9 February 2012 18:24 (thirteen years ago)

"Baby, I got sick this morning" is a great hidden line.

‘Neuroscience’ and ‘near death’ pepper (Eazy), Thursday, 9 February 2012 18:37 (thirteen years ago)

three years pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZyqmEEpIS8

I know some Civil War re-enactors you might want to talk to (Eazy), Monday, 19 October 2015 03:36 (nine years ago)

For curiosity's sake I read the Harvard Crimson column linked up top that prompted this thread. Apparently it was written by Spotify "digital alchemist"/Pazz & Jop poll runner/sometime ILXor Gl3nn McD0nald. The column is a run down of reflections on the original Motown versions of "The Tracks of My Tears," "Stop! In the Name of Love," "I Can't Help Myself," and "Tears of a Clown," among others. "Original Motown versions" because at the time he apparently only knew most of these tunes from covers by 1980s UK bands. How could this be? Where is he from? Did he only listen to college rock radio from the time he was 4 years old or something? Is he from England, and if so, had Motown completely evaporated from the airwaves there by the early eighties?

I guess I just assume that most people in the States have at least a passing familiarity with 60s Motown - most people between about 30 and 65 years old in 2015, anyway. So the aforementioned article read very strangely for me.

Futuristic Bow Wow (thewufs), Monday, 19 October 2015 05:10 (nine years ago)

five years pass...

When I get that feeling
I get hexual ceiling pic.twitter.com/eiu4moNtpN

— Friz Frizzle (@FrizFrizzle) September 26, 2021

Portsmouth Bubblejet, Thursday, 30 September 2021 11:12 (three years ago)


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