Many would argue that alternative hip hop might not be so much an alternative as much as it is a continuation of the original concepts and ideals of hip hop.
Stubbornly insisting on sticking to their themes and ideas, alternative hip hop artists were able to incorporate elements of virtually every form of music around at the time.
Following in the footsteps of the Freestyle Fellowship were Jurassic 5 (Jurassic 5 EP) and Dilated Peoples (The Platform), who continued mixing funk and hip hop music to critical acclaim and popular rejection.
Del tha Funkee Homosapien paired with Kool Keith's (aka Dr. Octagon) producer Dan the Automator to make Deltron 3030, who pushed the boundaries of hip hop to other universes and times.
On the West Coast, Ozomatli's self titled 1998 release fused latin and funky beats with hip hop in a groundbreaking way.
After the turn of the millennium, as the United States (still by far the world capital of hip hop) found itself confronted by the War on Terror, lyrics grew increasingly anti-mainstream, with some advocating radical actions on the behalf of various anarchist and socialist ideas.
In the new millennium a new "sub-genre" arose from the West Coast, spearheaded by underground rap producer Daddy Kev (famed for his work with the Freestyle Fellowship). With artists like Busdriver, AWOL One, The Shape Shifters, cLOUDDEAD, and Themselves, the music became known as abstract hip hop (aka avant-hop, prog-hop or avantcore).
The band Posse of Two uses new wave synths in their music while continuing to identify their music as underground hip hop.
― and what (ooo), Monday, 2 October 2006 14:35 (nineteen years ago)
OF SUCK
― Konal Doddz (blueski), Monday, 2 October 2006 14:44 (nineteen years ago)
― struttin' with some barbecue (jimnaseum), Monday, 2 October 2006 14:45 (nineteen years ago)
― Sadly, he will be the next Alexis Petridish. (Dom Passantino), Monday, 2 October 2006 14:50 (nineteen years ago)
― and what (ooo), Monday, 2 October 2006 14:52 (nineteen years ago)
― and what (ooo), Monday, 2 October 2006 14:55 (nineteen years ago)
a-la circa 1989 Public Enemy?
― J. Grizzle (trainsmoke), Monday, 2 October 2006 14:55 (nineteen years ago)
― and what (ooo), Monday, 2 October 2006 14:57 (nineteen years ago)
― and what (ooo), Monday, 2 October 2006 14:58 (nineteen years ago)
― am0n (am0n), Monday, 2 October 2006 15:09 (nineteen years ago)
2000 = rap was still inclusive enough you might see work the angles on 106 & park
― and what (ooo), Monday, 2 October 2006 15:15 (nineteen years ago)
― Sadly, he will be the next Alexis Petridish. (Dom Passantino), Monday, 2 October 2006 15:23 (nineteen years ago)
― am0n (am0n), Monday, 2 October 2006 15:27 (nineteen years ago)
― struttin' with some barbecue (jimnaseum), Monday, 2 October 2006 15:29 (nineteen years ago)
― am0n (am0n), Monday, 2 October 2006 15:33 (nineteen years ago)
― struttin' with some barbecue (jimnaseum), Monday, 2 October 2006 15:34 (nineteen years ago)
Yeah, but why would you want to?
― max (maxreax), Monday, 2 October 2006 15:37 (nineteen years ago)
* "What's happening? I keep my dreadlocks in a napkin ring." - From Deltron 3030 * "Can I chime in? I'll still be rhymin' when I'm in your hymen." - MTV, Get off the Air, Part II * "I'll never forget the time Austin got lost in Boston because it rhymes." - Heartfelt Experiment * "In 5th grade she used to draw horses. Now she's a dominatrix, and she's shaved off her eyebrows. I just don't understand." - A Very Sad Story * "I push the envelope so far it says, 'Excuse you.'" - Excuse You * "My Brain makes the earth dark though I'm hung like a birth mark." - Joy of Your World * "-Like Alfred E. Newman asking "What, Me Understand?" Catch me fleeing from France peeing my pants with Ice Cream in my hands" - Schmuck Busters * "Your Talents are bite-sized, it's no surprise you rhyme with white guys." - MTV, Get off the Air, Part II * "Friends memories fade. We're remembered by what we made, so I intertwined my rhymes and my mind into a braid." - Excuse You. * "My dandy voice makes the most anti-choice granny's panties moist." - Cock Mobster, reprised from MTV Get off the Air Part II * "I like shorn quim lasses in horn-rimmed glasses, but Cindy Crawford offered." - Cock Mobster * "A Hand Job�s a Man�s Job. Yo' Job�s a Blow Job." - Salvation Barmy * "Smirkin' jocks with hackysacks and Birkenstocks and khaki slacks. I'm the hypest lyricist, while they're like, 'What type of beer is this?' " - MTV Get off the Air Part II * "Had I made a mockery of their culture, like the Choco Taco? Was I to rap as France was to Morocco? Was I:rap::France:Morocco?" * "I made Tahnee Welch punanni felch while her mommy belched!"
― and what (ooo), Monday, 2 October 2006 15:37 (nineteen years ago)
― and what (ooo), Monday, 2 October 2006 15:38 (nineteen years ago)
― You've Got Scourage On Your Breath (Haberdager), Monday, 2 October 2006 15:39 (nineteen years ago)
― deej.. (deej..), Monday, 2 October 2006 15:41 (nineteen years ago)
― deej.. (deej..), Monday, 2 October 2006 15:42 (nineteen years ago)
― and what (ooo), Monday, 2 October 2006 15:42 (nineteen years ago)
― and what (ooo), Monday, 2 October 2006 15:44 (nineteen years ago)
― and what (ooo), Monday, 2 October 2006 15:45 (nineteen years ago)
― deej.. (deej..), Monday, 2 October 2006 15:49 (nineteen years ago)
― max (maxreax), Monday, 2 October 2006 15:52 (nineteen years ago)
― and what (ooo), Monday, 2 October 2006 15:56 (nineteen years ago)
― Apocalypse '07: Rodney Strikes Back (R. J. Greene), Monday, 2 October 2006 16:02 (nineteen years ago)
The Platform : #74Expansion Team : #36Neighborhood Watch : #5520/20 : #97
― Apocalypse '07: Rodney Strikes Back (R. J. Greene), Monday, 2 October 2006 16:32 (nineteen years ago)
also the dishonor of housing the worst beatnuts & premo beats of all time
― and what (ooo), Monday, 2 October 2006 16:39 (nineteen years ago)
― Apocalypse '07: Rodney Strikes Back (R. J. Greene), Monday, 2 October 2006 16:45 (nineteen years ago)
― J. Grizzle (trainsmoke), Monday, 2 October 2006 16:48 (nineteen years ago)
babu kinda looks like jadakiss
― and what (ooo), Monday, 2 October 2006 16:52 (nineteen years ago)
"Writing a thesis on ebonics unconcious of using poor grammar..."
-- ddrake (ddrak...)
― and what (ooo), Monday, 2 October 2006 16:53 (nineteen years ago)
― The PappaWheelie Story: Half Brain, Half Soul, All Mouth (on sale now) (PappaWhe, Monday, 2 October 2006 21:22 (nineteen years ago)
Wow, how did he manage to rap that exactly?
― billstevejim (billstevejim), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 02:27 (nineteen years ago)
― am0n (am0n), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 02:33 (nineteen years ago)
― max (maxreax), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 04:28 (nineteen years ago)
― Whiney G. Weingarten (whineyg), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 05:01 (nineteen years ago)
― A-ron Hubbard (Hurting), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 05:53 (nineteen years ago)
― am0n (am0n), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 10:53 (nineteen years ago)
― a naked Kraken annoying Times Square tourists with an acoustic guitar (nickalici, Tuesday, 3 October 2006 14:01 (nineteen years ago)
― A-ron Hubbard (Hurting), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 14:11 (nineteen years ago)
Recurring ElementsThe phrase "Did I fail to mention..." occurs in the songs Tractorbeam, Blastic, and Townie. The dog bark at the end of "Robotdog" appears at 1:42 in the song Blastic (when he mentions his dog). The phrase "I rock the mic..." is found in multiple songs.
― a naked Kraken annoying Times Square tourists with an acoustic guitar (nickalici, Tuesday, 3 October 2006 14:20 (nineteen years ago)
― and what (ooo), Friday, 20 October 2006 16:56 (nineteen years ago)
Little Johnny from the Hospitul is Company Flow's second album and was released in 1999.
The term "instrumental hip-hop" does not do this album anything resembling justice. Perhaps Noam Chomsky and Steven Pinker can collaborate on a split EP to invent a new word worthy to describe Johnny's "genre," preferably a word that makes you queasy about the coming technological apocalypto-revolution at its mere utterance.
"Comp" primes the listener for dark brutality when DJ Mr. Len scratches "Profession is rippin' tracks. So if you're ready, have plenty of back...cuz I attack" while chopped voices are strangled through the room. The next three songs turn your quarters into a third-eye movie about walking down a prison hallway in strobe-light slow motion at midnight through Venetian-blind shadows, wearing plastic 3-D glasses and a Rammellzee mask. Oh yeah - while being molested. "Suzy Pulled a Pistol on Henry"'s drum beat trips in the middle like a funky robot and ends with a quicksilver-drizzling cymbal, looped for your pleasure like a cocaine rat at the feeder bar over and over for 6 minutes. "Friend vs. Friend" puts a microphone in skin to record fear seeping through pores, then lopes through molasses riding on a clydesdale made of trumpets after your neighborhood tollbooth worker chants, "I'm gonna KILL someone." To make sure you don't get up from your slouch couch for the next 60 minutes, "Linoleum" dissects your cerebellar x-y-z matrix with backtracking drum freaks, doubling back on themselves while someone presses down rhythmically on a xylophone made of liquid titanium frogs. "Workers Needed" takes the "Holy Mountain" clips from "Funcrusher Plus" and isolates the infinite galactic assembly-line slavery vibe in boiled-down format with truly minimalist bamboo-torture click-beats. "Gigapet Epiphany" opens a man-hole in the roof of the universe and shines a beam of shimmering tv-static on your face while drums huddle, train, march to combat and triumph. It doesn't hurt that the benevolent voice of God in all its splendor makes a scratched cameo, and for the last time, the word of God is "So." "BMS Digital" takes the listener immediately back down to bowels, skipping along the surface of sewer slime on the wake of a Rammellzee wave-runner. In case the drums of Gigapet missed any heathens, the martial heartbeats return on "Worker Ant Uprise" to convert every remaining savage in the galaxy to the church of hip-hop celebrated at the mighty St. El-P Cathedral. "World of Garbage" tricks you into thinking the struggle is futile, that man's fulfilled search for meaning always lands him in an insane asylum or under a bridge, but you're wrong. You're saved. The universe as you know it negatives itself like a gastropod on "Happy Happy Joy Kill," reavealing a variegated Moebius-strip bass string of rainbow coils. It's okay. Follow this path, and yes, you will go insane, but only the truly immortal ever do.
― and what (ooo), Saturday, 13 January 2007 17:01 (nineteen years ago)
― Hoosteen (Hoosteen), Saturday, 13 January 2007 17:21 (nineteen years ago)
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― friday on the porch (lfam), Saturday, 13 January 2007 20:35 (nineteen years ago)
hahahahaha
― and what (ooo), Saturday, 13 January 2007 20:53 (nineteen years ago)
― Tuomas (Tuomas), Sunday, 14 January 2007 23:24 (nineteen years ago)
― Tuomas (Tuomas), Sunday, 14 January 2007 23:25 (nineteen years ago)
― friday on the porch (lfam), Monday, 15 January 2007 01:58 (nineteen years ago)
― am0n (am0n), Monday, 15 January 2007 02:19 (nineteen years ago)
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:D :D :D
― and what, Sunday, 26 August 2007 20:31 (eighteen years ago)
"Friend vs. Friend" puts a microphone in skin to record fear seeping through pores, then lopes through molasses riding on a clydesdale made of trumpets after your neighborhood tollbooth worker chants, "I'm gonna KILL someone." To make sure you don't get up from your slouch couch for the next 60 minutes, "Linoleum" dissects your cerebellar x-y-z matrix with backtracking drum freaks, doubling back on themselves while someone presses down rhythmically on a xylophone made of liquid titanium frogs.
― and what, Saturday, 24 May 2008 19:40 (seventeen years ago)
With the exception of Tupac Shakur, Gift of Gab is without a doubt the strongest MC to ever come out of the Bay Area. Whether working with Chief Xcel as Blackalicious, or doing solo work on “Fifth Dimensional Rocket Ships Going Up” Gift of Gab has consistently proven himself to be a top notch MC.
Let’s break down this MC down by his strengths and weaknesses:
Strengths:
Lyrical content. Gift of Gab is one of the few emcees out there that can mix dope battle tracks with socially conscious songs. “Alphabet Aerobics,” where he raps the entire alphabet, and “Chemical Calisthenics” where he actually works his way through the periodic table are some of the most wickedly original songs ever written, while songs like “Make You Feel That Way” not only make you think but plug your heartstrings.
Speed. Following in the footsteps of E-40, another Bay Area rapper, Gift of Gab is one of the fastest rappers out there. His breath control is amazing on record; it’s as if he can rap over 30 bars without taking a breath. The very first track on “Fifth Dimensional Rocket Ships Going Up” is one of the most amazing exercises of breath control I’ve ever heard.
Original rhyme patterns. Simply put, Gab is a true master when it comes to developing original rhyme schemes. For example, take a look at “Green Light: Now Begin:” his flow has a very distinguishable swagger to it.
Weaknesses:
Struggles with catchy hooks. This is a very common affliction of MCs worldwide. You can write some of the dopest rhymes ever, but it’s damn near impossible to write catchy hooks. Most of the choruses from blackalicious are cuts from other tracksStill, it’s touch to deny that the beats are still banging.
Lackluster live performance. I’ve seen Gift of Gab perform three times, and have never been terribly impressed with his performance. He’s a really big guy, and it’s hard for him to move around the stage and interact with the crowd. It probably doesn’t help that two of the three times I saw him perform, Lyrics Born (one of the greatest live MCs I’ve ever seen) was a special guest.
Vocal quality. While he’s highly adept at changing flow patterns, Gift of Gab rarely changes the emotional quality in his voice. He’s a lot like Nas in that respect; always very calm, cool and collected. It makes certain tracks unbelievable; particularly when he is trying to come across as angry and upset. If you say you’re pissed off, you sure as hell better sound like you mean it.
This is the first installment of the masters of their craft. We’ll continue to look at some of the best rappers that are out there today, as well as some of the all time greats. Let me know some current MCs that you’d like to see on this board, and we’ll get cracking.
― and what, Wednesday, 11 June 2008 01:17 (seventeen years ago)
man E for a guy who could & should be writing some of the most helpful, insightful, elucidating rap criticism of anybody out there, you sure do waste a fair amount of time calling out dudes who're not as good as you while refusing to put yr own actual gifts into constructive practice, and you know I only say this shit outta love & respect for you but this kinda thing while lulzy is beneath you, elevate that game man
I know this is some old man dad bullshit but I fuckin had to say it man
― J0hn D., Wednesday, 11 June 2008 01:32 (seventeen years ago)
but having said that
With the exception of Tupac Shakur, Gift of Gab is without a doubt the strongest MC to ever come out of the Bay Area.
LOL
― J0hn D., Wednesday, 11 June 2008 01:33 (seventeen years ago)
-- J0hn D., Wednesday, 11 June 2008 02:32 (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Link
You should use your massive music industry pull to ensure that decent young music writers actually have a regular paid outlet, rather than having to subliminate their writing skills into increasingly snarky mesage board posts.
― The stickman from the hilarious "xkcd" comics, Wednesday, 11 June 2008 01:35 (seventeen years ago)
practice what you preach dom
― El Tomboto, Wednesday, 11 June 2008 01:38 (seventeen years ago)
That was the joke
― The stickman from the hilarious "xkcd" comics, Wednesday, 11 June 2008 01:40 (seventeen years ago)
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not only make you think but plug your heartstrings.
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 11 June 2008 01:41 (seventeen years ago)
ethan turned down my offer to try and find him a spot writing press releases for def jux, I did my bit
― J0hn D., Wednesday, 11 June 2008 01:41 (seventeen years ago)
wait i did?
― and what, Wednesday, 11 June 2008 01:44 (seventeen years ago)
my emoticon key is broken
― J0hn D., Wednesday, 11 June 2008 01:46 (seventeen years ago)
ill take that gig if he wont
― deej, Wednesday, 11 June 2008 01:50 (seventeen years ago)
the return of rob threezy
I saw this guy put on a fine show in Minneapolis last weekend.
― Eazy, Wednesday, 11 June 2008 01:55 (seventeen years ago)
if ethan got a real paying job writing and stopped c/ping this stuff i wouldnt have any herbs to laugh at in order to make myself feel better
― max, Wednesday, 11 June 2008 03:41 (seventeen years ago)
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Wednesday, 11 June 2008 05:34 (seventeen years ago)
writing is lame. only crazy ppl write. writing is a show off
― usic, Wednesday, 11 June 2008 07:42 (seventeen years ago)
I get there too late to catch Lupe Fiasco, the one performer I was genuinely hoping to see, and in fact, the one song of the night that I was most genuinely looking forward to—“Superstar,” one of my most-played tracks from last year, according to iTunes—is already wrapping up by the time I finally get past security, where I’m held up by a girl with a Foo Fighters tattoo (on the back of her neck, no less) emptying her cavernous purse. I hear that infectious Matthew Santos hook drifting up from the arena and run to see—and fuckity fuck fuck, it’s not a recording, Santos is here to do it live, and I fucking missed it.
― and what, Wednesday, 11 June 2008 20:46 (seventeen years ago)
Sean O'Neal (city editor, Austin) spent most of his good years playing in several almost-made-it bands and holding down jobs with varying degrees of indignity. Like some other A.V. Club staffers, O'Neal received "the call" while working at a video store. To this day, he hasn't gotten used to the idea that no one expects him to open tomorrow. O'Neal's writing began in earnest with the seventh-grade humor column "Mindless Chatter," which quickly earned him the nickname "the Dave Barry of Bailey Junior High," a reputation he is still trying to live up to. He would also like to clarify that—despite persistent Internet rumors—he is not the guy from Clarissa Explains It All. (Really.) O'Neal lives a life of quiet desperation in Austin, where he can usually be found getting into clubs without paying.
― The stickman from the hilarious "xkcd" comics, Wednesday, 11 June 2008 20:48 (seventeen years ago)
NOT Rabin???
― deej, Wednesday, 11 June 2008 20:49 (seventeen years ago)
dear mr. rabin-- i renege that i tried to talk drama at u, & i respect ur writing most of the time & often reminisce abt that time you got deep into dave eggers' mindstate
-- luriqua, Saturday, February 24, 2007 2:53 PM (1 year ago) Bookmark Link
― deej, Wednesday, 11 June 2008 20:50 (seventeen years ago)
fuckity fuck fuck!
― and what, Wednesday, 11 June 2008 20:52 (seventeen years ago)
Weaknesses:Struggles with catchy hooks. This is a very common affliction of MCs worldwide.
― Vomits of a Missionary (bernard snowy), Monday, 13 October 2014 02:45 (eleven years ago)