Ms. Peachez - soooo confused

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxmx2DEKpko

(x-post)

"fry that chicken" i *just* learned about and i can't youtube from work but just from the title it sounds like a nasty joke

is that naive?

Ah hell Naw, nigga. dat bitch be deslanderin all blacks in dat vid. we niggaz need 2 unite 2 boycott!!! Dis kat be beggin fo an ass-woopin! I cant beleeve how ignant dis bitch is! But i must admit dat fry'd chicken sho dus looks finga'likin good Playa!
? Comment by Shanequia — September 18, 2006 — 8:34 am

This stuff is from the rolling country thread last week:

ms. peachez reminds me: didn't sylvester have some countrified moments on his early blue thumb LPs with the hot band or whatever they were called? sadly, i no longer own them to check. (also, early chicago house music had certain country aspects as well, in its boogie woogie piano, etc. There was even an artist called Farm Boy!)
-- xhuxk (fakemai...), October 1st, 2006.

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i gave that to frank, in a link, while figuring out minstelry, he told me not to be silly...im not sure i like it, but then i hate fun, so its all sorted
-- anthony easton (anthonyeasto...), October 1st, 2006.

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http://xxlmag.com/online/?p=4869
-- anthony easton (anthonyeasto...), October 1st, 2006.

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Lots of morons on that link:
"Country music definitely re-enforces redneck sister-fucking, whiskey-drinking, big-truck, cowboy retard stereotype as much as Yin Yang twins promote chicken-lovin, monkey-actin, small brained jigs. "

-- xhuxk (fakemai...), October 1st, 2006.

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Lots of people who flunked Geography class too (unless they all live where Anthony does, which makes the entire lower 48 "the south.")
This guy seems pretty smart, though:

Dr Flav Says:

September 24th, 2006 at 1:45 pm
Divide and conquer is what is abound. Folk on here talking about racial stereotypes, while using slurrs thats really proactive. The negative context of minstrel shows came from whites applying blackface and exploiting and using thier act to copy or ridicule blacks with talent. This was a case of wanting to enjoy black entertainment, as long as there were not any real blacks around. You can see later how these black influences later appeared in their dances, music and speech.

Dr Flav Says:

September 24th, 2006 at 2:02 pm
A minstrel is a poor entertainer who performs for income, the musician, dancer, mime, poet or singer with a cup on the street could be considered a minstrel. I really find it ignorant for some to base the culture and intelligence of a whole group, based on the actions of a few entertainers, whom acting a fool for comedic value in an apparently on purpose manner. They are making a choice on how to express themselves through their medium. Do you think these people function in this manner all during their daily functions? If you do, who is really an ignorant fool.

Dr Flav Says:

September 24th, 2006 at 2:11 pm
Dont you find it odd, that the black people in region of this country that has taken the biggest and most severe forms of racism is accused of perpetuating racial stereotypes? Do you not think we have a firm grasp on what is truly harmful to not just us, but all people of color in this country?

Dr Flav Says:

September 24th, 2006 at 2:26 pm
Now its north vs south, with the north being most critical of music that if you used an unbiased analytical ear you will hear similar influences universally. Why must the aspiring efforts of others be ostrasiced because of your particular taste? Its one thing to be critical, but being contemptuous toward your own is new improved bigotry. Fact is, we are free people, we can dance, talk, eat and express ourselves without fear or worry of what others think, is this not America?

Dr Flav Says:

September 24th, 2006 at 2:41 pm
Finally, with all this talk about a drag queen cooking chicken, a teenager bragging about a chain and children making up a funny named dance, where is the criticism of the murder, drug dealing, drug using, violence and irresponsibility that has been present in the hip hop music of all regions for over two decades? I sense their are hypocrites with an agenda pushing this southern hate. They dont have to like our music, its enough of us that buy it, but this character assassination of general southern is a problem and can become a problem to northern people who visit and live here in the south, who wants to interact with someone who feels like that towards you?

-- xhuxk (fakemai...), October 1st, 2006.

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more:
http://blackademics.org/2006/09/25/everybody-want-a-piece-of-my-chicken/

Allyson makes some good points here; several other people do not.

-- xhuxk (fakemai...), October 1st, 2006.

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From what I can see, those websites mainly illustrate an issue of class. For relevant context, they should preferably be read with the Supremes' "I'm Living In Shame" playing in the background.
-- xhuxk (fakemai...), October 1st, 2006.

This stuff is from the rolling country thread last week:

ms. peachez reminds me: didn't sylvester have some countrified moments on his early blue thumb LPs with the hot band or whatever they were called? sadly, i no longer own them to check. (also, early chicago house music had certain country aspects as well, in its boogie woogie piano, etc. There was even an artist called Farm Boy!)
-- xhuxk (fakemai...), October 1st, 2006.

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i gave that to frank, in a link, while figuring out minstelry, he told me not to be silly...im not sure i like it, but then i hate fun, so its all sorted
-- anthony easton (anthonyeasto...), October 1st, 2006.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

http://xxlmag.com/online/?p=4869
-- anthony easton (anthonyeasto...), October 1st, 2006.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Lots of morons on that link:
"Country music definitely re-enforces redneck sister-fucking, whiskey-drinking, big-truck, cowboy retard stereotype as much as Yin Yang twins promote chicken-lovin, monkey-actin, small brained jigs. "

-- xhuxk (fakemai...), October 1st, 2006.

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Lots of people who flunked Geography class too (unless they all live where Anthony does, which makes the entire lower 48 "the south.")
This guy seems pretty smart, though:

Dr Flav Says:

September 24th, 2006 at 1:45 pm
Divide and conquer is what is abound. Folk on here talking about racial stereotypes, while using slurrs thats really proactive. The negative context of minstrel shows came from whites applying blackface and exploiting and using thier act to copy or ridicule blacks with talent. This was a case of wanting to enjoy black entertainment, as long as there were not any real blacks around. You can see later how these black influences later appeared in their dances, music and speech.

Dr Flav Says:

September 24th, 2006 at 2:02 pm
A minstrel is a poor entertainer who performs for income, the musician, dancer, mime, poet or singer with a cup on the street could be considered a minstrel. I really find it ignorant for some to base the culture and intelligence of a whole group, based on the actions of a few entertainers, whom acting a fool for comedic value in an apparently on purpose manner. They are making a choice on how to express themselves through their medium. Do you think these people function in this manner all during their daily functions? If you do, who is really an ignorant fool.

Dr Flav Says:

September 24th, 2006 at 2:11 pm
Dont you find it odd, that the black people in region of this country that has taken the biggest and most severe forms of racism is accused of perpetuating racial stereotypes? Do you not think we have a firm grasp on what is truly harmful to not just us, but all people of color in this country?

Dr Flav Says:

September 24th, 2006 at 2:26 pm
Now its north vs south, with the north being most critical of music that if you used an unbiased analytical ear you will hear similar influences universally. Why must the aspiring efforts of others be ostrasiced because of your particular taste? Its one thing to be critical, but being contemptuous toward your own is new improved bigotry. Fact is, we are free people, we can dance, talk, eat and express ourselves without fear or worry of what others think, is this not America?

Dr Flav Says:

September 24th, 2006 at 2:41 pm
Finally, with all this talk about a drag queen cooking chicken, a teenager bragging about a chain and children making up a funny named dance, where is the criticism of the murder, drug dealing, drug using, violence and irresponsibility that has been present in the hip hop music of all regions for over two decades? I sense their are hypocrites with an agenda pushing this southern hate. They dont have to like our music, its enough of us that buy it, but this character assassination of general southern is a problem and can become a problem to northern people who visit and live here in the south, who wants to interact with someone who feels like that towards you?

-- xhuxk (fakemai...), October 1st, 2006.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

more:
http://blackademics.org/2006/09/25/everybody-want-a-piece-of-my-chicken/

Allyson makes some good points here; several other people do not.

-- xhuxk (fakemai...), October 1st, 2006.

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From what I can see, those websites mainly illustrate an issue of class. For relevant context, they should preferably be read with the Supremes' "I'm Living In Shame" playing in the background.
-- xhuxk (fakemai...), October 1st, 2006.

also, it's not clear to me what "stereotype" would be made fun of in the bathtub video. is there some steretype about black people taking baths that i'd never heard of before? it's just a goofy, silly song.

also, ms. peachez >>>>> peaches, fwiw.

Which, yeah: at the risk of sounding like Dave Chapelle here, it's kind of funny how the fried-chicken thing has become such a weird symbol/staple of really vicious old-school stereotypes of black people, because, umm ... fried chicken is tasty. It's not like white people even disagree about this. But somehow now a delicious staple of black southern cuisine has gotten all vexed to the point where poor Ms Peachez can't even fry up something up for her little friends without criticism. (Whereas if she were making sweet potatoes and collard greens, everyone would be like "yeah, that's some tasty soul food," and of course if she were all like "let's enjoy some refreshing slices of watermelon," we'd be all skeezed out by it.)